McGinest to the Browns

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Details to follow

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Per ESPN News......

3yrs 12 mil

[Cbz40]

Link or source please




Thank You.....

[Chocolate Lab]

:banghead:

[Da Hammer]

Damn could have used him but oh well...

[austintodallas]

Hello Carpenter.

[Ken]

Hello Carpenter.
We need some experience in our LBs.

[Dallas]

Now this is one I wanted that got away. What a bummer. He would have been perfect here in Dallas tutoring our young guys. What is Jerry thinking?

[Canadian BoyzFan]

cbz40...Sorry, just wanted to be sure I broke the story.
Here you go...

Browns | McGinest agrees to three-year deal
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:20:41 -0800

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have agreed to terms with free agent LB Willie McGinest (Patriots) on a three-year, $12 million deal.

[Da Hammer]

Now this is one I wanted that got away. What a bummer. He would have been perfect here in Dallas tutoring our young guys. What is Jerry thinking?
Jerry doesn't care, he's vacationing right now in Mexico

[TonyS]

Hold on to your hats....the dam is about to blow!

[leotisbrown]

No worries.

He was old as molasses anyways plus we got some tricks up our sleeve. Mister Jerry Jones is just waiting for the right moment to pull them out of his hat like a magicman and his rabbit.

This is all just part of the great plannings that have been planned up for our team.

Relaxes now and breath easy.

[Portland Fanatic]

We needed his leadership big time....****!

I'm not sure I can watch anymore...next will be Adam V. signing elsewhere. Folks will continue to say be patient...we're ok.

There are not many more FA's worth considering at any position right now...really.

Adam V. or sign Josh Brown to an offer....

Not excited about Neil at OG...blah blah blah

****!

[32BellyOption]

And there goes another one! This is getting ridiculous! are Jerrah and Tuna doing? For Christs sake! Now I'm starting to get pissed!

I can not WAIT till Stephen takes over for Jerrah! I envision the younger Jones as being MUCH more aggressive.

[Alexander]

We need some experience in our LBs.

We need leadership period.

[SacredStar]

Browns are quietly building a decent free agency list.

Good signing for Cleveland.

[cleverusername]

What a bummer!

[Da Hammer]

No worries.

He was old as molasses anyways plus we got some tricks up our sleeve. Mister Jerry Jones is just waiting for the right moment to pull them out of his hat like a magicman and his rabbit.

This is all just part of the great plannings that have been planned up for our team.

Relaxes now and breath easy.
and what exactly do you think he's gonna do?????

[austintodallas]

We need some experience in our LBs.We have some. His name is Al Singleton. I wouldn't look for him to keep the starting job for long however with Carpenter or Lawson in the mix.

[JPM]

Did he even visit Dallas ??

[Alexander]

Mister Jerry Jones is just waiting for the right moment to pull them out of his hat like a magicman and his rabbit.

What rabbit?

[cowboyjoe]

Dad-burn, if jerry really in mexico on vacation, and leaving us fans hanging? This makes me really wonder, if Jerry really plans to sign anyone big like TO, or just barely sign players this year, like they did in 2004. I am sure all of you are aware what happened that year, we waited for free agents, & after doing so, did a poor job of getting quality players, and as you know we stunk that year, 5-11 record in 2004.

[Alexander]

Did he even visit Dallas ??

He never made it here.

That is what happens when your owner and coach take the week of free agency off.

You lose out. In most of these cases, first Longwell and now this apparently, we simply did not get them to visit us.

That is what happens when you are content to be third on the visit list.

You will lose out on the good players.

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Did he even visit Dallas ??

Nope he was coming here next apparently.

[Doomsday101]

Looking at the 2 FA we have signed these are still young guys I don't think Dallas is looking to add more age to this team. I'm not going to knock McGinest I think he is a very good player but he is getting up in age and it just appears right now that Jerry and the Cowboys are not looking to put a team together for just 1 or 2 season.

[Cbz40]

I thought I read somewhere that rabbit kicked the bucket.:confused:

[dallasgirl12]

Now this is one I wanted that got away. What a bummer. He would have been perfect here in Dallas tutoring our young guys. What is Jerry thinking?

It is true he would have been a great pick-up for the reasons you mentioned. But it had nothing to do with what Jerry did or didn't do. This guy wanted to go to his home state. Money isn't everything to everybody. Where you live, raise your family, etc. is also part of most people's decision as to where to go. We need to stop blaming Jones for everything.

[InmanRoshi]

He was a former Parcells player, so he supposedly wasn't any good anyway and the only reason he would be brought here is because Parcells is making this a retirement home for his former Patriots and Jets.

Or so I've been told.

[wileedog]

That is what happens when you are content to be third on the visit list.

You will lose out on the good players.

Players and agents decide who they are going to visit first, not coaches.

McGinnest player for Romeo two years ago. Its been a while since he played for Bill. I'm sure his ties are stronger there, so he went there first.

[Da Hammer]

Players and agents decide who they are going to visit first, not coaches.

McGinnest player for Romeo two years ago. Its been a while since he played for Bill. I'm sure his ties are stronger there, so he went there first.
yeah but if we showed more interest then they would come here first

[TruBlueCowboy]

That person edging closer on the bridge represents the Cowboys fan reaction as we continue to hear about these signings. :D

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20010829/2262jumper.jpg

[cowboys#1]

the guy is freakin old!!!! we dont need old has beens!!!

[wileedog]

yeah but if we showed more interest then they would come here first

How do you know what interest they did or didn't show?

[chinch]

he'd have been perfect here if only Jerruh took a few minutes away from his stadium building and "how to circumvent revenue sharing" thoughts.

[Da Hammer]

How do you know what interest they did or didn't show?
well i admit i don't know exactly but i imagine that we would have heard more about him possibly coming here if we had showed more interest.

[JohnsKey19]

We needed his leadership big time....****!

I'm not sure I can watch anymore...next will be Adam V. signing elsewhere. Folks will continue to say be patient...we're ok.

There are not many more FA's worth considering at any position right now...really.


****!

Dont worry. It's only a week into free agency. It doesn't matter that basically all the decent FAs are off the market because there's still plenty of time. :banghead: It doesn't matter that the rest of the divison is getting better every day. Trust me. There's plenty of time. No need to rush my man. Jerry is tanning somewhere in Mexico and Bill is shagging flyballs with the St Louis Cardinals. :banghead:

[wileedog]

well i admit i don't know exactly but i imagine that we would have heard more about him possibly coming here if we had showed more interest.

Yes, because Bill is famous for broadcasting his personnel plans to the media.

[Portland Fanatic]

That person edging closer on the bridge represents the Cowboys fan reaction as we continue to hear about these signings. :D

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20010829/2262jumper.jpg

He's not gonna jump...he's just looking to see what FA's are left down there...


Oh wait FA started...

~Phone rings...Bill answers.
~ Jerrah...hey it's me
~ Bill...what's up J
~ Jerrah...Did you know FA started?
~ Bill...Serious?
~ Bill...how's the tan coming along?
~ Jerrah...ok, but my face feels tight.
~ Bill...I bet...how many times has it been now?
~ Jerrah...to many
~ Bill...so this FA thing...what should we do?
~ Jerrah...Let me call Danny and see who he's taken and we can go from there.
~ Bill...sounds good to me.
~ Jerrah...did you ok releasing Keys?
~ Bill...What?
~ Jerrah...Sorry forgot to tell you...needed cash for Mexico

[AbeBeta]

I would have liked him but clearly he saw the Browns as a better fit -- a 3 year commitment is a bit much for a guy with a year or two left in the tank.

[leotisbrown]

and what exactly do you think he's gonna do?????

First rule of magic is you don't do no telling on the next trick even if you no how its done mostly.

We just need to cross our fingers and enjoy the show.

Have faith in Mr Jerry Jones he wont not let us down again.

[Da Hammer]

He's not gonna jump...he's just looking to see what FA's are left down there...


Oh wait FA started...

~Phone rings...Bill answers.
~ Jerrah...hey it's me
~ Bill...what's up J
~ Jerrah...Did you know FA started?
~ Bill...Serious?
~ Bill...how's the tan coming along?
~ Jerrah...ok, but my face feels tight.
~ Bill...I bet...how many times has it been now?
~ Jerrah...to many
~ Bill...so this FA thing...what should we do?
~ Jerrah...Let me call Danny and see who he's taken and we can go from there.
~ Bill...sounds good to me.
~ Jerrah...did you ok releasing Keys?
~ Bill...What?
~ Jerrah...Sorry forgot to tell you...needed cash for Mexico
:laugh2:

[MichaelWinicki]

3 years-- $12 mill for Willie?

That's nuts.

[TruBlueCowboy]

He's not gonna jump...he's just looking to see what FA's are left down there...


Oh wait FA started...

~Phone rings...Bill answers.
~ Jerrah...hey it's me
~ Bill...what's up J
~ Jerrah...Did you know FA started?
~ Bill...Serious?
~ Bill...how's the tan coming along?
~ Jerrah...ok, but my face feels tight.
~ Bill...I bet...how many times has it been now?
~ Jerrah...to many
~ Bill...so this FA thing...what should we do?
~ Jerrah...Let me call Danny and see who he's taken and we can go from there.
~ Bill...sounds good to me.
~ Jerrah...did you ok releasing Keys?
~ Bill...What?
~ Jerrah...Sorry forgot to tell you...needed cash for Mexico
:laugh2:

[Billy Bullocks]

And there goes another one! This is getting ridiculous! are Jerrah and Tuna doing? For Christs sake! Now I'm starting to get pissed!

I can not WAIT till Stephen takes over for Jerrah! I envision the younger Jones as being MUCH more aggressive.

Maybe. Jerry is a self made millionaire, correct? Stephen hasnt really had to work for anything. Not saying he isn't smart, and doesn't know alot from playing second fiddle, but he didn't have to earn what Jerry did.

[Hostile]

Now this is one I wanted that got away. What a bummer. He would have been perfect here in Dallas tutoring our young guys. What is Jerry thinking?I gotta agree. Getting him would have made good sense. If that price is right, he's a bargain with experience.

[Doomsday101]

3 years-- $12 mill for Willie?

That's nuts.

No contract is exactly what it appears to be.

[bford24]

I LOVE the Cowboys but I am glad I now live in California. That way if we are terrible I don't have to watch all the games. I still think we will get something done but it is annoying to see all these players slip away.

[leotisbrown]

What rabbit?

Don't be sinical just believe in the magic and fairy dust yourself with roses and hopefullness type feelings inside and dream great dreams and dump trucks candy canes race cars galor like at Christmas time then you feel the magic and --poooof-- the rabbit apeers.

[Alexander]

well i admit i don't know exactly but i imagine that we would have heard more about him possibly coming here if we had showed more interest.

We did show interest.

We just were two visits down the list because we did not make it a priority.

Early bird gets the worm.

It has already happened with Longwell.

[cobra]

MAKE UP YOUR FREAKING MINDS!

For the love of God. You people whinge and moan about how our team is too old and Parcells signs old people. Now our team gets younger and you guys whinge and moan about not having enough "leadership players."

Our Quarterback is the leader of our offense. Roy, Aaron Glenn, Bradie and Greg Ellis will be the leaders of our Defense.

It is really true that no matter what this team does, its fans will b*tch and moan.

[Alexander]

Don't be sinical just believe in the magic and fairy dust yourself with roses and hopefullness type feelings inside and dream great dreams and dump trucks candy canes race cars galor like at Christmas time then you feel the magic and --poooof-- the rabbit apeers.

Are you high by any chance?

[Cbz40]

He's not gonna jump...he's just looking to see what FA's are left down there...


Oh wait FA started...

~Phone rings...Bill answers.
~ Jerrah...hey it's me
~ Bill...what's up J
~ Jerrah...Did you know FA started?
~ Bill...Serious?
~ Bill...how's the tan coming along?
~ Jerrah...ok, but my face feels tight.
~ Bill...I bet...how many times has it been now?
~ Jerrah...to many
~ Bill...so this FA thing...what should we do?
~ Jerrah...Let me call Danny and see who he's taken and we can go from there.
~ Bill...sounds good to me.
~ Jerrah...did you ok releasing Keys?
~ Bill...What?
~ Jerrah...Sorry forgot to tell you...needed cash for Mexico


post of the day.......Dr Pepper is in the mail.:D

[Ken]

We need leadership period.
This i disagree with.

What did the previous regime's leadership get us?

[conner01]

i think it likly has to do with playing for his old coach, more than jerry dropping the ball. not sure i wanted him for 4 mil a year anyways. i would rather draft someone who will be here for the long haul and won't cost that much for 4 years

[leotisbrown]

I thought I read somewhere that rabbit kicked the bucket.:confused:

He lives. Oh Lordy how he lives. He lives in all of us.

Mister Jerry Jones noes what hes done and what he is doing and thats good enough for me.

[Seven]

[quote=dallasgirl12]It is true he would have been a great pick-up for the reasons you mentioned. But it had nothing to do with what Jerry did or didn't do. This guy wanted to go to his home state. Money isn't everything to everybody. Where you live, raise your family, etc. is also part of most people's decision as to where to go. We need to stop blaming Jones for everything[quote]

Young lady we don't need you coming in here, sticking your nose in our business and making COMPLETE SENSE!!! It's all Jerry's fault. Don't you see?http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Let them all wallow, blindly I might add, neck deep in their unfounded "woe is us" mud so I have something juicy to read. ;)

[Portland Fanatic]

post of the day.......Dr Pepper is in the mail.:D

Ahhh...you da man! I love Dr. Pepper. ;)

[Derinyar]

Theres a good chance the contract is back loaded, could very well be about 3/year on average, or possibly even less. Say 4 million up front with 1.5 and 2 in the first two years.

I think players have the largest choice of where they are going and in what order they are going to visit teams. I won't say we didn't have a chance, but I suspect he knew where he wanted to go from the start. Maybe if we made a harder push at him, maybe he would have changed his plans or maybe not.

I do think we've made some moves that make sense so far. They aren't the sexy moves we all want, but none of them have been stupid ones, or even questionable ones. Are we done? Probably not.

[dallasblue05]

I could be crazy, or blind.......or both, but I just read through 4 pages and didnt see one link.......can someone post if available...

[TheSkaven]

Jerry doesn't care, he's vacationing right now in MexicoHere is a question for the board, and I am dying to hear the answer. What is the GM of an NFL team doing taking a week of vacation on the first week of free agency? Does that make any sense?? :confused:

[sago1]

Now remember guys, we can't complain or worry about our slow FA start or we will be BANNED for saying Cowboys need get a little move on. Everything is wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. JJ & Parcells have this great plan so be p -a - t -i -e -n -t. THE will say we want the Cowboys to overspend on all those overrated players then JJ & Parcells will come along and sweep up (at a cheap price) all those great players who just waiting for us to come save them from the poor house.

[Chuck 54]

I keep hearing guys talking about drafting some of these college DEs for OLB or upset over signings.

What's wrong with Ware / Brady / Adele / Burnett

Burnett was a fairly high 2nd round pick...I think we should expect him to play this year.

[Rockytop6]

No worries.

He was old as molasses anyways plus we got some tricks up our sleeve. Mister Jerry Jones is just waiting for the right moment to pull them out of his hat like a magicman and his rabbit.

This is all just part of the great plannings that have been planned up for our team.

Relaxes now and breath easy.

Sure! Sure! The sky isn't falling--2003 revisited.

[ConcordCowboy]

Here is a question for the board, and I am dying to hear the answer. What is the GM of an NFL team doing taking a week of vacation on the first week of free agency? Does that make any sense?? :confused:

If this is true...It's Idiotic!

[DWAREZ]

Details to follow

ouch :bang2::banghead::bang2::banghead::bang2::banghead ::bang2::banghead::bang2::banghead:

[CaptainAmerica]

Come on guys, I wanted him, but to act like it's the end of the world is silly.

Don't forget Belichik let him walk. The Pats could have matched that deal easily but they didn't and the guy was a key part of their defense last year.

Our defense will be fine.

[Seven]

What were you guys like in 90 and 91 when we brought in a ga-jillion no name football players?

Your parents shoulda ignored you when you threw yourselves on the floor screaming cause you wanted the RED popsicle.

[Alexander]

This guy wanted to go to his home state.

McGinist is from Long Beach, CA.

That's nowhere near Cleveland.

Try again.

[NYCowboy22]

McGinest would have been a very solid signing for us. Well, there goes that idea... Hope you are enjoying your vacation Jerry! :confused:

[dallasfan]

What's wrong with Ware / Brady / Adele / Burnett


Nothing except Burnett may not be ready to start the season (I think he tore his ACL or something like that in December), but I agree 100% that we don't need to draft a LB in the first. I only wanted McGinnest because he would bridge the gap between now and when Burnett was ready not to mention what he could teach Burnett and Ware.

[Glenn Carano]

I would have liked him but clearly he saw the Browns as a better fit -- a 3 year commitment is a bit much for a guy with a year or two left in the tank.

Exactly. We would have never paid that and with good reason.

[leotisbrown]

Sure! Sure! The sky isn't falling--2003 revisited.

Losses of faith is losses greatest loss.

I believes still.

[vicjagger]

Cross another one off my list.

This, the offseason from hell, just keeps getting worse and worse....

:bang2:

[burmafrd]

3 years 12 mill is too much for a guy that old. A shame but that is the way it is.

[Jarv]

He's on total access now.

Interesting what he's saying.

[DWAREZ]

He's on total access now.

Interesting what he's saying.

He said he did not want to go on recruiting visits or city to city..he is old :laugh1::laugh2:

Said Parcells thought Browns was best place for him probably indicating Bill wants to stay young at LB

[ravidubey]

We need some experience in our LBs.
I agree 100%. This is the downside of using a high draft choice without a capable veteran who has played at a high levelin place. James and Ayodele have played well but I would not say they are elite players. Ware is a potential elite player but is still learning how to be a pro. A new guy like Lawson would be where Ware was last year and our LB corps would be looking to James for leadership. That's a lot to ask of him, IMO.

[Jarv]

I agree 100%. This is the downside of using a high draft choice without a capable veteran who has played at a high levelin place. James and Ayodele have played well but I would not say they are elite players. Ware is a potential elite player but is still learning how to be a pro. A new guy like Lawson would be where Ware was last year and our LB corps would be looking to James for leadership. That's a lot to ask of him, IMO.

I thought I heard James was a good leader on his college team. Hope it translates over.

As a matter of fact, isn't college team captains something we have a high amount of on our defense ?

[ravidubey]

I keep hearing guys talking about drafting some of these college DEs for OLB or upset over signings.

What's wrong with Ware / Brady / Adele / Burnett

Burnett was a fairly high 2nd round pick...I think we should expect him to play this year.
IMO that player has a LOT to prove. Not only did he get hurt late in the season (which means his first half of 2007 is in jeopardy) but this hugely sets back his learning curve. He didn't get much time in the 3-4 last year and likely won't get any time in it this offseason. Given how injury prone this kid has been, I'm thinking year 2 of Burnett is likely shot. If he manages to develop at the pace of a Brady James, he'll thus become a player in his 4th year instead of his 3rd year. That leaves his 5th year a contract year and us getting only 1 or 2 good years from a 2nd round draft pick. I guess with Dallas' recent track record (Carter, Dixon, Gurode, Bryant, Johnson, Rogers, et al) we should not be surprised.

[diamond cutter]

This might've been on the board already, but here you go.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2369949