Fox new mock draft 3.0

[CrazyCowboy]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5408652

[theogt]

When are these idiots going to realize we're taking an OLB in round one?

[RealCowboyfan]

They had Manny Lawson with the 16th pick...LMFAO

hahahahahaha... you could tell they are idiots... cause he's going with the 18th pick...

[theogt]

They had Manny Lawson with the 16th pick...LMFAO

hahahahahaha... you could tell they are idiots... cause he's going with the 18th pick...Not to mention Cutler going above Young. This mess with Culter going top 5 is just ridiculous. His true value is low first, high second if that.

[SALADIN]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5408652

I'd take that.

[Derinyar]

When are these idiots going to realize we're taking an OLB in round one?
Hardly think its guranteed we are taking a OLB in round 1.

[theogt]

Hardly think its guranteed we are taking a OLB in round 1.Who do you plan on starting at SOLB next year then? Al? Burnett? Ogbogu?

[RealCowboyfan]

Hardly think its guranteed we are taking a OLB in round 1.

sure ain't going to be no right tackle in the first.... we all know that...

Johnathan Scott from texas will probably get drafted in the second round and Manny Lawson gets drafted in the first...

[Rockytop6]

Not to mention Cutler going above Young. This mess with Culter going top 5 is just ridiculous. His true value is low first, high second if that.

Some decisions are made on emotion and not on value.

[Derinyar]

Who do you plan on starting at SOLB next year then? Al? Burnett? Ogbogu?
So your advocating reaching to draft for need?

[theogt]

So your advocating reaching to draft for need?Gosh, according to this mock draft getting Lawson at 18 is a steal. :rolleyes: Seriously, I don't think 18 for Lawson/Carpenter is much of a reach. You have to go for optimal combination of talent/need and I think Lawson/Carpenter is the optimal choice at that point.

[Derinyar]

sure ain't going to be no right tackle in the first.... we all know that...

Johnathan Scott from texas will probably get drafted in the second round and Manny Lawson gets drafted in the first...
I'll still bet Lawson either goes higher up in the draft, closer to the top 10, if teams are convinced he can rush the passer at the NFL level, or lower if teams think hes not going to. LB's tend to slide down the draft consistently, unless they are seen as having elite level pass rushing skills.

[Dallas]

Who do you plan on starting at SOLB next year then? Al? Burnett? Ogbogu?

Can we just get through FA first? For all you know we could sign Peterson to man that spot.

[Hostile]

Not to mention Cutler going above Young. This mess with Culter going top 5 is just ridiculous. His true value is low first, high second if that.I disagree. That's why it's a draft not an award to the team already in place.

[theogt]

Can we just get through FA first? For all you know we could sign Peterson to man that spot.Peterson does seem to be the only viable option left. We haven't expressed any interest in him *yet* though.

[Derinyar]

Gosh, according to this mock draft getting Lawson at 18 is a steal. :rolleyes:
And according to vitrually every other draft its a reach taking him at 18. So you want an olb in round one regardless?

[dbair1967]

Not to mention Cutler going above Young. This mess with Culter going top 5 is just ridiculous. His true value is low first, high second if that.

and Young's should be lower than that

Young has all the media craze and "flash" going for him, but on pure passing skills Cutler is a better prospect

David

[Wimbo]

When are these idiots going to realize we're taking an OLB in round one?

If the draft unfolds as they have it, 4 OLB's will already be gone by the #18 pick. Would be a reach to take one.

[neosapien23]

Who do you plan on starting at SOLB next year then? Al? Burnett? Ogbogu?

What about if Dallas doesn't get Owens? They will need to take Jackson or Homes. Dallas can still get an outside linebacker in the 3rd round. Ryan LaCasse. I like him alot more than Wimberely and Carpenter. Ran a 4.54 and weighs 267 lbs.

[theogt]

And according to vitrually every other draft its a reach taking him at 18. So you want an olb in round one regardless?Read the rest. The answer is yes.

[theogt]

What about if we don't get Owens? We will need to take Jackson or Homes. Dallas can still get an outside linebacker in the 3rd round. Ryan LaCasse. I like him alot more than Wimberely and alot more than Carpenter. Ran a 4.54 and weighs 267 lbs.If we don't get TO, we re-sign Key and take a LB in the first. Its a much bigger need at this point than WR.

[theogt]

and Young's should be lower than that

Young has all the media craze and "flash" going for him, but on pure passing skills Cutler is a better prospect

DavidI'd rather not rehash this debate.

[neosapien23]

If we don't get TO, we re-sign Key and take a LB in the first. Its a much bigger need at this point than WR.

Keyshawn might not want to come back. He is a free agent and he already stated that he would like to go to Carolina. The last time I checked, WR is a bigger need than linebacker right now.

[dbair1967]

I'd rather not rehash this debate.

me either...but people do it all the time...this is beat the dead horse capital of the world here...

David

[theogt]

Keyshawn might not want to come back. He is a free agent and he already stated that he would like to go to Carolina.Certainly that may be the case. However, according to Key's own words and other media reports, he wants to come back here. He's willing to give Dallas the right to match, and Carolina has stated they have no interest.

[kartr]

Not to mention Cutler going above Young. This mess with Culter going top 5 is just ridiculous. His true value is low first, high second if that.

Thank you!

[kartr]

and Young's should be lower than that

Young has all the media craze and "flash" going for him, but on pure passing skills Cutler is a better prospect

David

I disagree. Young's a proven winner and he's proved he could carry a team going up against the best, something that Brady Quinn couldn't do.

[Hostile]

I disagree. Young's a proven winner and he's proved he could carry a team going up against the best, something that Brady Quinn couldn't do.Brady Quinn is the kid I think will end up being the best QB of the last few years.

That is a kid I'd love to acquire.

[wileedog]

I'll still bet Lawson either goes higher up in the draft, closer to the top 10, if teams are convinced he can rush the passer at the NFL level, or lower if teams think hes not going to. LB's tend to slide down the draft consistently, unless they are seen as having elite level pass rushing skills.

Keep in mind at this time last year Ware was considered a 2nd rounder, at best.

Lawson will move up as it gets closer to draft day too, IMO.

[dbair1967]

I disagree. Young's a proven winner and he's proved he could carry a team going up against the best, something that Brady Quinn couldn't do.

Brady Quinn?? how did he get in the conversation...I was comparing Young's passing abiloty to Cutlers and in seeing them both alot, they arnt even close

but since you mentioned it, after another yr of working with Charlie Weis Brady Quinn and assuming he builds on this seasons success, he will probably be one of the higher rated QB prospects to come out in years...he will also be very advanced coming out and be ready to step in and play right away for somebody

its one of the main reasons I'd love to stockpile picks in next yrs draft, so that if Henson doesnt work out we could have ammo to trade up to get him

David

[slick325]

When are these idiots going to realize we're taking an OLB in round one?

This draft is deep with OLB's, Tackles and Free Safeties. Not much separates the guys at OLB or T (outside of Hawk at OLB and Ferguson at T) so I think Dallas is going to get a player at those positions in the 2nd and 3rd possibly. Just a feeling I have on this matter. If you look back at the 2004 draft, Dallas needed a RB and decided to trade out of the 1st round with Jackson on the Board because there wasn't much difference among Jackson, K. Jones and J. Jones. I don't see us getting an OLB with #18. Dallas needs to get younger at WR and I think Jerry knows that.

I think that the signing of A.Ayodele gives us flexibility with the 18th pick. Dallas can play him at OLB and draft an ILB in the 3rd like Kai Parham instead of going after Lawson or Wimbley. I would not be adverse to that either. It would allow Dallas to draft Jackson or Holmes (whether we sign T.O. or not) in the 1st, get Jonathan Scott or Jeremy Trueblood in the 2nd. That would give us a future possible star at WR after T.O (if signed) and Glenn get too old to perform (both are in their 30's), a starter at RT and a starting ILB. The remaining picks (second day picks) can be used on a TE, NT and more depth on the OLine.

All of that assumes that we pick up a PK (Brown, Vinatieri, Vanderjagt or Mare), a FS (Coleman) and possibly T.O. in free agency. Couple that with the A. Ayodele and K. Kosier. If this is how our offseason turns out, I for one would be very pleased. We would have youth and talent at all positions and our future would look very bright. Coleman would only be a stop gap at FS and Bledsoe is aging but other than that Dallas in 2007/8 would be pretty good if the youngsters develop.

[dbair1967]

Brady Quinn is the kid I think will end up being the best QB of the last few years.

That is a kid I'd love to acquire.

agree 100%

with Weis working with him for another yr, if he stays healthy he is a lock for #1 pick next yr and is probably going to be the highest rated pro prospect to come out in years

David

[theogt]

There should be a stickied poll about our first round pick.

[dbair1967]

Keep in mind at this time last year Ware was considered a 2nd rounder, at best.

Lawson will move up as it gets closer to draft day too, IMO.

thats not true...even at the Senior Bowl they were talking about him as a 1st rd prospect...he had a great week there and then tore up the combine

David

[Q_the_man]

Young will go b4 Cutler easily, Cutler wont go top 10 I don't care who says what... and if he does go top 10 some coach will lose their job

[theogt]

This draft is deep with OLB's, Tackles and Free Safeties. Not much separates the guys at OLB or T (outside of Hawk at OLB and Ferguson at T) so I think Dallas is going to get a player at those positions in the 2nd and 3rd possibly. Just a feeling I have on this matter.If the draft is thick at all three positions the argument works both ways. I really can't see us taking a RIGHT tackle in the first round. Talk about a reach. Also, LB is a much bigger hole than FS in my opinion so I think it's much more likely that Dallas goes OLB in the first and FS/OL(more likely FS if we pick up either Ashworth/Runyan/Fabini) in the second.

[Hostile]

Young will go b4 Cutler easily, Cutler wont go top 10 I don't care who says what... and if he does go top 10 some coach will lose their jobLike I said, this is why there are Drafts. I like Cutler more than Young or Leinart. Of course I admit an anti-USC bias.

[slick325]

If the draft is thick at all three positions the argument works both ways. I really can't see us taking a RIGHT tackle in the first round. Talk about a reach. Also, LB is a much bigger hole than FS in my opinion so I think it's much more likely that Dallas goes OLB in the first and FS/OL(more likely FS if we pick up either Ashworth/Runyan/Fabini) in the second.

Anyone know the status of Al Singleton? If we keep him and Burnett is healthy OLB is not a need position any longer. Again, A. Ayodele plays OLB despite his possible move inside. I can't see Jerry and Parcells picking another OLB after getting Ware and Burnett with two of our first 3 picks from a year ago, signing A.Ayodele who played OLB his whole career and is a former college DE and keeping Al Singleton who would be a perfect reserve player.
My desired lineup would consist of:

Starting LB crew:
LOLB A. Ayodele
LILB K. Parham (3rd round draft pick)
RILB B. James
ROLB D. Ware

Reserves are:
LOLB A. Singleton
LILB Fowler
RILB Boiman (possible F/A pick up)
ROLB K. Burnett

That is not a bad set of LB's. Not great but better than what they were at the end of last season. I really think WR and T will be addressed in the 1st two rounds because we drafted so heavily for defense last year. Just my thoughts.

[theogt]

Anyone know the status of Al Singleton? If we keep him and Burnett is healthy OLB is not a need position any longer. Again, A. Ayodele plays OLB despite his possible move inside. I can't see Jerry and Parcells picking another OLB after getting Ware and Burnett with two of our first 3 picks from a year ago, signing A.Ayodele who played OLB his whole career and is a former college DE and keeping Al Singleton who would be a perfect reserve player.
My desired lineup would consist of:

Starting LB crew:
LOLB A. Ayodele
LILB K. Parham (3rd round draft pick)
RILB B. James
ROLB D. Ware

Reserves are:
LOLB A. Singleton
LILB Fowler
RILB Boiman (possible F/A pick up)
ROLB K. Burnett

That is not a bad set of LB's. Not great but better than what they were at the end of last season. I really think WR and T will be addressed in the 1st two rounds because we drafted so heavily for defense last year. Just my thoughts.Word on the board is that Burnett won't be 100% for week 1 so cross that out. Singleton is a big question mark as well. Personally I was a big Singleton fan. He wasn't a playmaker but you definitely weren't going to make big play on him either. I agree though that if Al and Kevin are both 100% and look fine in preseason we're solid at that position. Problem is thats a big if and we won't know the answer by draft time. Better safe than sorry.

[theogt]

Anyone know the status of Al Singleton? If we keep him and Burnett is healthy OLB is not a need position any longer. Again, A. Ayodele plays OLB despite his possible move inside. I can't see Jerry and Parcells picking another OLB after getting Ware and Burnett with two of our first 3 picks from a year ago, signing A.Ayodele who played OLB his whole career and is a former college DE and keeping Al Singleton who would be a perfect reserve player.
My desired lineup would consist of:

Starting LB crew:
LOLB A. Ayodele
LILB K. Parham (3rd round draft pick)
RILB B. James
ROLB D. Ware

Reserves are:
LOLB A. Singleton
LILB Fowler
RILB Boiman (possible F/A pick up)
ROLB K. Burnett

That is not a bad set of LB's. Not great but better than what they were at the end of last season. I really think WR and T will be addressed in the 1st two rounds because we drafted so heavily for defense last year. Just my thoughts.Word on the board is that Burnett won't be 100% for week 1 so cross that out. Singleton is a big question mark as well. Personally I was a big Singleton fan. He wasn't a playmaker but you definitely weren't going to make big play on him either. I agree though that if Al and Kevin are both 100% and look fine in preseason we're solid at that position. Problem is thats a big if and we won't know the answer by draft time. Better safe than sorry.

I say pick up Coleman and a 2/3 round FS.

[bbgun]

Wimberley and Lawson off the board by 18? BALONEY.

[EastCoastLawnmowers]

what is wrong with chad greenway, he slid down to the late 20s

[Alexander]

Hoorah.

Another copy cat Chad Jackson to Dallas mock.

Any of these ever have any original thought?

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

I have no objection to a WR or an OT with the 18th pick. I think we might have two choices for each position that could help us. But you guys are probably right, we will waste another pick on D. They score so well for us last year why not? So another LB or S would be just ducky. :(

[theogt]

I have no objection to a WR or an OT with the 18th pick. I think we might have two choices for each position that could help us. But you guys are probably right, we will waste another pick on D. They score so well for us last year why not? So another LB or S would be just ducky. :(A waste of a pick would be taking a RT in the first round. I wouldn't mind seeing a WR if we somehow fix the HUGE GAPING HOLE at SOLB in free agency.

[Wolf2k5]

Who do you plan on starting at SOLB next year then? Al? Burnett? Ogbogu?

Why is every1 giving up on burnett already. he was second rounder last year

[theogt]

Why is every1 giving up on burnett already. he was second rounder last yearI'm not giving up on Burnett. I certainly hope he can step up this year. The only problem is that he won't be at 100% until midseason.

[burntricersx]

I like it!