All of the Dallas reporters ..

[Reality]

.. need to spend more time reading the posts on this site rather than listening to their followers who are willing to be led in whatever direction they are told to go.

While I'm not thrilled T.O. is on the team (not upset either), the T.O. poll on here shows that basically 80% of the fans here supported the move yet "their" readers seem to all be against it and they simply feed on that emotion by attempting to lead the charge from the back of the pack.

At some point, these reporters need to drop their agendas, stop listening to the 2 fans who call or write into them and expand their research to learn that a great deal more of the Cowboys fans support Jerry Jones (and T.O. in this case) than not.

-Reality hates agendas!

[Rack Bauer]

.. need to spend more time reading the posts on this site rather than listening to their followers who are willing to be led in whatever direction they are told to go.

While I'm not thrilled T.O. is on the team (not upset either), the T.O. poll on here shows that basically 80% of the fans here supported the move yet "their" readers seem to all be against it and they simply feed on that emotion by attempting to lead the charge from the back of the pack.

At some point, these reporters need to drop their agendas, stop listening to the 2 fans who call or write into them and expand their research to learn that a great deal more of the Cowboys fans support Jerry Jones (and T.O. in this case) than not.

-Reality hates agendas!

Why would reporters do that? They don't care if the fans liked it or not. They care about controversies, cuz controversies means $$$.

[Clove]

.. need to spend more time reading the posts on this site rather than listening to their followers who are willing to be led in whatever direction they are told to go.

While I'm not thrilled T.O. is on the team (not upset either), the T.O. poll on here shows that basically 80% of the fans here supported the move yet "their" readers seem to all be against it and they simply feed on that emotion by attempting to lead the charge from the back of the pack.

At some point, these reporters need to drop their agendas, stop listening to the 2 fans who call or write into them and expand their research to learn that a great deal more of the Cowboys fans support Jerry Jones (and T.O. in this case) than not.

-Reality hates agendas!I feel like I'm watching my favorite show Seinfeld when you said Reality hates agendas! :)

I completely agree with you. Randy Galloway tried to make it a racial thing today, and Chuck Coop. and all them idiots just get on my nerves. They want the public to follow along with them, but the public is much smarter than that and I'm glad.

[braw]

I feel like I'm watching my favorite show Seinfeld when you said Reality hates agendas! :)

I completely agree with you. Randy Galloway tried to make it a racial thing today, and Chuck Coop. and all them idiots just get on my nerves. They want the public to follow along with them, but the public is much smarter than that and I'm glad.


thats why you should not listen to them. If i want an honest opinion or accurate reports I just come to this site.

Then once I have the info I laugh at all the noise you see and hear on TV and radio.

[TheSkaven]

I think what everyone is missing are fans like myself, people who couldn't stand TO (and still don't like him), but agree that he makes the team better and will support him so long as he has a star on his helmet. I guess they thought that the outrage would continue for months and that people would break their ankles jumping off the bandwagon. It hasn't happened. They underestimate exactly how much we, the fans, love this team.

[speedkilz88]

.. need to spend more time reading the posts on this site rather than listening to their followers who are willing to be led in whatever direction they are told to go.

While I'm not thrilled T.O. is on the team (not upset either), the T.O. poll on here shows that basically 80% of the fans here supported the move yet "their" readers seem to all be against it and they simply feed on that emotion by attempting to lead the charge from the back of the pack.

At some point, these reporters need to drop their agendas, stop listening to the 2 fans who call or write into them and expand their research to learn that a great deal more of the Cowboys fans support Jerry Jones (and T.O. in this case) than not.

-Reality hates agendas!Nick Eatman was saying the very same thing on dc.com's The Lunchbreak. They had a poll on the site with close to 200,000 votes with over 70% favoring the signing. He also said that TO jerseys were going fast and season tickets picked up very briskly.

[TheHustler]

.. need to spend more time reading the posts on this site rather than listening to their followers who are willing to be led in whatever direction they are told to go.

While I'm not thrilled T.O. is on the team (not upset either), the T.O. poll on here shows that basically 80% of the fans here supported the move yet "their" readers seem to all be against it and they simply feed on that emotion by attempting to lead the charge from the back of the pack.

At some point, these reporters need to drop their agendas, stop listening to the 2 fans who call or write into them and expand their research to learn that a great deal more of the Cowboys fans support Jerry Jones (and T.O. in this case) than not.

-Reality hates agendas!

Any idea what their sample size was?

[Cowboy Junkie]

One thing I notice when it comes to reporters out of Dallas.
When on ESPN or any other national forum they like to bash the team more so than reporters from other parts of the country .Almost like an anti-biased agenda if you will.
You do not see as much of this going on in other cities and I am not saying they should be drinking the kool aid but just do your job with a little class...

[ddh33]

The media, in general, wonders why they get a bad reputation. Some of these guys take it upon themselves to be judge, jury, and executioners on whatever issue they want. Of course, they may change their mind for no reason a week later and pretend like they never said the other...

Meanwhile, some of these guys are alcoholics, cheating on their wives, sorry people who don't even take their job seriously. If it wasn't so annoying, it would almost be sad...

[SupermanXx]

How did Galloway make it racial today? I've been out of the loop for today, unfortunately

anyone wanna fill me in?

[Crown Royal]

I hate to say this - I actually disagree. I know that 2 months ago, no way were people here so accepting of TO. When I was a more active member (before my current job) most of those fans I spoke to hated the idea.

Cowboys fans I talk to on a daily basis hate the move. My father has vowed to root against the Cowboys forever.

I myself have taken quite a step back in keeping up with the team (though I will still support the team).

My point is - I think everyone is aware that his talent will help the team. I think that. I will point out, however - the poll said 'He will greatly help the team' not 'i was behind the signing.'

This whole offseason has been tough for me, and I think it has been for quite a few fans as well.

I do think reporters are overdoing it, but not so much as this thread suggests.

There are 500 responses on that poll - no offense to the site - there are WAY more fans out there than that. These just happen to be the most faithful ones. :-)

[Reality]

I hate to say this - I actually disagree. I know that 2 months ago, no way were people here so accepting of TO. When I was a more active member (before my current job) most of those fans I spoke to hated the idea.

Cowboys fans I talk to on a daily basis hate the move. My father has vowed to root against the Cowboys forever.

I myself have taken quite a step back in keeping up with the team (though I will still support the team).

My point is - I think everyone is aware that his talent will help the team. I think that. I will point out, however - the poll said 'He will greatly help the team' not 'i was behind the signing.'

This whole offseason has been tough for me, and I think it has been for quite a few fans as well.

I do think reporters are overdoing it, but not so much as this thread suggests.

There are 500 responses on that poll - no offense to the site - there are WAY more fans out there than that. These just happen to be the most faithful ones. :-)Right, and since most people who respond to polls and feedback are complaining about something, this even proves the point even more.

I'm sorry, but I hate Buddy Ryan more than any sports player or coach in ANY league, but if he's hired by the Cowboys, I'll still root for the Cowboys. I won't root for Buddy Ryan but I'll root for the Cowboys.

All of these so-called fans who say they're no longer Cowboys fans or going to root "against" the Cowboys are nothing more than hot air looking for a place to vent. The season is months away from starting and it's VERY easy to say whatever you want right now.

I guarantee you that almost every one of those people turning on the Cowboys now will be all excited if/when the Cowboys start winning games.

I'm not a fan of T.O. at all nor did I want him signed .. I just didn't want him on any other NFC East team .. that was my only wish. However, he's here .. like it or not .. he's here ..

We can gripe all we want, that's our right as fans, but I will never stop being a Cowboys fan and I will never root against the Cowboys.

I'm a life-long Cowboys fan and I will always be one. Period.

-Reality

[speedkilz88]

I hate to say this - I actually disagree. I know that 2 months ago, no way were people here so accepting of TO. When I was a more active member (before my current job) most of those fans I spoke to hated the idea.

Cowboys fans I talk to on a daily basis hate the move. My father has vowed to root against the Cowboys forever.

I myself have taken quite a step back in keeping up with the team (though I will still support the team).

My point is - I think everyone is aware that his talent will help the team. I think that. I will point out, however - the poll said 'He will greatly help the team' not 'i was behind the signing.'

This whole offseason has been tough for me, and I think it has been for quite a few fans as well.

I do think reporters are overdoing it, but not so much as this thread suggests.

There are 500 responses on that poll - no offense to the site - there are WAY more fans out there than that. These just happen to be the most faithful ones. :-)As I posted, dc.com had 200,000 on their poll and they also have plenty of fans putting their money where their mouth is.

[Reality]

I hate to say this - I actually disagree. I know that 2 months ago, no way were people here so accepting of TO. When I was a more active member (before my current job) most of those fans I spoke to hated the idea.

Cowboys fans I talk to on a daily basis hate the move. My father has vowed to root against the Cowboys forever.

I myself have taken quite a step back in keeping up with the team (though I will still support the team).

My point is - I think everyone is aware that his talent will help the team. I think that. I will point out, however - the poll said 'He will greatly help the team' not 'i was behind the signing.'

This whole offseason has been tough for me, and I think it has been for quite a few fans as well.

I do think reporters are overdoing it, but not so much as this thread suggests.

There are 500 responses on that poll - no offense to the site - there are WAY more fans out there than that. These just happen to be the most faithful ones. :-)And one other thing I'd like to point out .. most people's opinions are driven by the media and almost every radio and TV sports show commentator has been highly critical of the T.O. signing .. as a result, a lot of casual fans are going to believe what they hear and what they are told to believe.

Most of the users here do not fall into that category which makes our polls a LOT more credible.

-Reality hates agendas

[hmcorp]

Im sorry but more moeny is being spent on cowboys stuff now.

and requests for season tickets jumped...ummm

sorry...you guys are wrong,
more fans are coming in the fold.

[Rack Bauer]

And one other thing I'd like to point out .. most people's opinions are driven by the media and almost every radio and TV sports show commentator has been highly critical of the T.O. signing .. as a result, a lot of casual fans are going to believe what they hear and what they are told to believe.

Most of the users here do not fall into that category which makes our polls a LOT more credible.

-Reality hates agendas



I agree with that.

Although it is funny how probably 50% of the people that are Pro-TO now, where Against TO just 3-5 months ago.

[Crown Royal]

I agree with that.

Although it is funny how probably 50% of the people that are Pro-TO now, where Against TO just 3-5 months ago.

That's kind of my point.

3-5 months ago this whole board hated the idea. I want to know where the love all of a sudden came from. It is kind of disturbing.

[Crown Royal]

And one other thing I'd like to point out .. most people's opinions are driven by the media and almost every radio and TV sports show commentator has been highly critical of the T.O. signing .. as a result, a lot of casual fans are going to believe what they hear and what they are told to believe.

Most of the users here do not fall into that category which makes our polls a LOT more credible.

-Reality hates agendas

That shows that the polls are done by 'knowledgable fans.' That doesn't mean that make a poll more credible - a larger demographic makes a poll more credible.

A poll is meant to show what an entire community believes as a whole. A poll for a community of die hard fans reflects the opinion of die-hards, not all fans.

[Reality]

That's kind of my point.

3-5 months ago this whole board hated the idea. I want to know where the love all of a sudden came from. It is kind of disturbing.That's common logic. Any player with a troubled past is both wanted and unwanted by fans at the same time. However, when that player is not yet on your team, it's easier to say you don't want him. However, when you get that player then your opinion changes.

Mine is still the same .. I really don't care either way. I do have a problem with people who say they'll stop being a fan over the signing of a player. To me, no true fan would ever do that. Hate the player? Sure. Hope the player does bad? Sure. Hate the team over it? Not a chance.

-Reality hates agendas

[Crown Royal]

That's common logic. Any player with a troubled past is both wanted and unwanted by fans at the same time. However, when that player is not yet on your team, it's easier to say you don't want him. However, when you get that player then your opinion changes.

Mine is still the same .. I really don't care either way. I do have a problem with people who say they'll stop being a fan over the signing of a player. To me, no true fan would ever do that. Hate the player? Sure. Hope the player does bad? Sure. Hate the team over it? Not a chance.

-Reality hates agendas

I can't imagine that either - if you can stick around through Landry getting fired, you can stick around through this.

[SkinsandTerps]

My guess is that many of them (reporters) want to be the first to say, " I told ya so".

I cant say that I am a TO fan, but his production and presence, is simply undeniable.

I agree with 98% of you guys, that if X player was signed that I despised, not for a second would I turn on the team that I have supported for so many years.

As a Redskins fan, do I wish for the worst scenario ? Of course I do.
But at the same time, I am quite intrigued to see what a potentially "matured" TO can accomplish.

[jrumann59]

Im sorry but more moeny is being spent on cowboys stuff now.

and requests for season tickets jumped...ummm

sorry...you guys are wrong,
more fans are coming in the fold.

People buying the tickets, I would say about 1/3 are like Nascar fans, they are coming to see a wreck.

[DWAREZ]

.. need to spend more time reading the posts on this site rather than listening to their followers who are willing to be led in whatever direction they are told to go.

While I'm not thrilled T.O. is on the team (not upset either), the T.O. poll on here shows that basically 80% of the fans here supported the move yet "their" readers seem to all be against it and they simply feed on that emotion by attempting to lead the charge from the back of the pack.

At some point, these reporters need to drop their agendas, stop listening to the 2 fans who call or write into them and expand their research to learn that a great deal more of the Cowboys fans support Jerry Jones (and T.O. in this case) than not.

-Reality hates agendas!


:hammer::hammer::hammer:Post of the year Thank You!!

[DWAREZ]

That shows that the polls are done by 'knowledgable fans.' That doesn't mean that make a poll more credible - a larger demographic makes a poll more credible.

A poll is meant to show what an entire community believes as a whole. A poll for a community of die hard fans reflects the opinion of die-hards, not all fans.

I am unsure that is the argument here and conversely a "small" sample of mainstream fans does not reflect the "majority" of the fan base either. :eek:

[DWAREZ]

Why would reporters do that? They don't care if the fans liked it or not. They care about controversies, cuz controversies means $$$.

Reporters do that to ground their agenda in the fanbase to shape their perceptions and in so doing make more cash.

[Dale]

I enjoy intelligent debate about TO's presence here. His presence creates so many questions that there are -- justifiably so -- doubters out there. Can he play for Parcells? Play with Bledsoe?

I think I've found myself siding WITH TO lately, more so than anything else, because of some of the dumb statements made in articles about him, the situation, etc.

I mean, from suggesting Parcells' absence at the press conference is tellling, to the comment that Rosenhaus talked about Parcells in the third person meant something, to all these other ridiculous comments ... so many people that don't even have a clue about the situation are chiming in with an uninformed opinion. I wouldn't care, but unfortunately, that is helping sway many other opinions out there. It's a shame IMO.

I also haven't liked some of the Dallas takes, where the articles practicallly insinuate the guy brings nothing good to the table. I mean, c'mon. I think it's JJT who has an article up right now saying there's going to be some good, some bad -- or maybe it's Kevin Sherrington. That's the reality of the situation.

Even if the WORST case scenario occurred with his attitude....he'd still produce on the field, as made evident in Philly. It may be a small consolation prize if he's ripping the team apart, but it can't be dismissed that he's the best wideout in football and good for about 1,400 yards and 14 TDs.

To me, the people acting as if there is no good in this signing are as silly as those suggesting there is no downside. Why the sensationalism? Just tell it like it is, even if that doesn't sell as many papers.

[Crown Royal]

I enjoy intelligent debate about TO's presence here. His presence creates so many questions that there are -- justifiably so -- doubters out there. Can he play for Parcells? Play with Bledsoe?

I think I've found myself siding WITH TO lately, more so than anything else, because of some of the dumb statements made in articles about him, the situation, etc.

I mean, from suggesting Parcells' absence at the press conference is tellling, to the comment that Rosenhaus talked about Parcells in the third person meant something, to all these other ridiculous comments ... so many people that don't even have a clue about the situation are chiming in with an uninformed opinion. I wouldn't care, but unfortunately, that is helping sway many other opinions out there. It's a shame IMO.

I also haven't liked some of the Dallas takes, where the articles practicallly insinuate the guy brings nothing good to the table. I mean, c'mon. I think it's JJT who has an article up right now saying there's going to be some good, some bad -- or maybe it's Kevin Sherrington. That's the reality of the situation.

Even if the WORST case scenario occurred with his attitude....he'd still produce on the field, as made evident in Philly. It may be a small consolation prize if he's ripping the team apart, but it can't be dismissed that he's the best wideout in football and good for about 1,400 yards and 14 TDs.

To me, the people acting as if there is no good in this signing are as silly as those suggesting there is no downside. Why the sensationalism? Just tell it like it is, even if that doesn't sell as many papers.

I don't deny his talent and that he will help us win football games.

But, I don't know if the good outweighs the bad in this situation.

I hate to say it - in this situation, for me, there are things more important to me than winning.

Maybe that's why I have no job offers coming from the NFL.:laugh2:

[jterrell]

.. need to spend more time reading the posts on this site rather than listening to their followers who are willing to be led in whatever direction they are told to go.

While I'm not thrilled T.O. is on the team (not upset either), the T.O. poll on here shows that basically 80% of the fans here supported the move yet "their" readers seem to all be against it and they simply feed on that emotion by attempting to lead the charge from the back of the pack.

At some point, these reporters need to drop their agendas, stop listening to the 2 fans who call or write into them and expand their research to learn that a great deal more of the Cowboys fans support Jerry Jones (and T.O. in this case) than not.

-Reality hates agendas!

Mike Taylor of ESPN1033 argued the entire crew of espn1033 down about this subject saying that 80% of fans probably like the move because we want to win more than we want choir boys. If he acts out, cut him, but until then try to win.

I sent him a link to the poll showing the 80% (so he was arguing with more than his opinion) and he thanked me for the url.

I dont like TO. I wouldnt wanna hang out with him even now.

But football players need not be angels. I know they are risking injury every week to entertain us and my ownership of them extends to them wearing my teams jersey.

Emmitt was an all-time great for the Boys and at his position but honestly when he went to Arizona and Roy Williams knocked him out I was estatic. Accepting TO now is no more of a double standard than that.

TO may not give two rips about the star but I do. If you are wearing it I'll back you to a certain extent at least.

Not only that but he's here now so why would 'i" be the divisive one? If he's gonna do it let him do it but I am gonna be all for the team with TO on it until proven wrong.

My own football fandom is not like my personal life. I truly dislike the Eagles, 49ers, Skins and Steelers. I am quite fine accepting that I am just a fan and living in football world where guys get paid 10 million to do chicken dances and score TDs.

[Dale]

I don't deny his talent and that he will help us win football games.

But, I don't know if the good outweighs the bad in this situation.

I hate to say it - in this situation, for me, there are things more important to me than winning.

Maybe that's why I have no job offers coming from the NFL.:laugh2:

See, I can appreciate that point of view. You admit he brings talent and will improve our talent on the field, but lay out your reasons for why you don't want him here.

Understandable.

However, some of these rants I've seen/heard in the Dallas media are just getting silly.

[Crown Royal]

Mike Taylor of ESPN1033 argued the entire crew of espn1033 down about this subject saying that 80% of fans probably like the move because we want to win more than we want choir boys. If he acts out, cut him, but until then try to win.

I sent him a link to the poll showing the 80% (so he was arguing with more than his opinion) and he thanked me for the url.

I dont like TO. I wouldnt wanna hang out with him even now.

But football players need not be angels. I know they are risking injury every week to entertain us and my ownership of them extends to them wearing my teams jersey.

Emmitt was an all-time great for the Boys and at his position but honestly when he went to Arizona and Roy Williams knocked him out I was estatic. Accepting TO now is no more of a double standard than that.

TO may not give two rips about the star but I do. If you are wearing it I'll back you to a certain extent at least.

Not only that but he's here now so why would 'i" be the divisive one? If he's gonna do it let him do it but I am gonna be all for the team with TO on it until proven wrong.

My own football fandom is not like my personal life. I truly dislike the Eagles, 49ers, Skins and Steelers. I am quite fine accepting that I am just a fan and living in football world where guys get paid 10 million to do chicken dances and score TDs.


Yeah...but...JT....

You've actually played at a high level before.

Some of us (like me) are living vicariously through the NFL.:laugh2::D








:cry2:

[Dale]

Some of us (like me) are living vicariously through the NFL.:laugh2::D

That explains you pulling out a Sharpie on me in PM.

[Crown Royal]

That explains you pulling out a Sharpie on me in PM.

I grabbed a DP from CBZ earlier and shook it like a pom pom.

Unfortunately he didn't see me do it. It was gold when he opened it.

[jterrell]

I enjoy intelligent debate about TO's presence here. His presence creates so many questions that there are -- justifiably so -- doubters out there. Can he play for Parcells? Play with Bledsoe?

I think I've found myself siding WITH TO lately, more so than anything else, because of some of the dumb statements made in articles about him, the situation, etc.

I mean, from suggesting Parcells' absence at the press conference is tellling, to the comment that Rosenhaus talked about Parcells in the third person meant something, to all these other ridiculous comments ... so many people that don't even have a clue about the situation are chiming in with an uninformed opinion. I wouldn't care, but unfortunately, that is helping sway many other opinions out there. It's a shame IMO.

I also haven't liked some of the Dallas takes, where the articles practicallly insinuate the guy brings nothing good to the table. I mean, c'mon. I think it's JJT who has an article up right now saying there's going to be some good, some bad -- or maybe it's Kevin Sherrington. That's the reality of the situation.

Even if the WORST case scenario occurred with his attitude....he'd still produce on the field, as made evident in Philly. It may be a small consolation prize if he's ripping the team apart, but it can't be dismissed that he's the best wideout in football and good for about 1,400 yards and 14 TDs.

To me, the people acting as if there is no good in this signing are as silly as those suggesting there is no downside. Why the sensationalism? Just tell it like it is, even if that doesn't sell as many papers.


Completely on point.

The fact is he IS a Cowboy now and I feel compelled to defend the guy when the criticism gets silly.

Is he a scumbucket? Yes. Any grown man who constantly throws under folks under a bus is a loser. But we have had our share of folks with issues team-related and otherwise who have helped us win games.

If TO is not worth the investment ALL we lose is 10 mil of Jerry's money. Not a draft pick, not some 7 million in dead money.

In Peter King's mailbag a guy actually had the gall to say KJ was giving almost as much because he caught a similar number of passes and ONLY had 400 less yards receiving than TO. LOL. It cracked me up.

Right now we have 3 Pro Bowlers on offense. Witten, TO and Bledsoe. Bledsoe became a Pro Bowler before the ink dried on TO's contract here. If any other offensive players this season are pro bowlers they can also thank TO. His presence opens up the playbook and makes getting yards much easier which makes everyone's stats look better. OL who were getting blitzed on passing downs and facing 8 men plus on running downs now will see guys backed off playing it safe trying to contain all of Dallas' big threats, lead by TO.

Thats simply the reality of the situation. If Drew cant handle getting cussed for throwing low passes and balance that with the good of getting 400 'free' yards and 4 or 5 'free' TDs from TO then that would be his issue as a leader. But listening to him now twice he sounds ready to make it work because he knows it makes the team and himself better. Does Parcells not cuss him for the low passes as well?

[jterrell]

I grabbed a DP from CBZ earlier and shook it like a pom pom.

Unfortunately he didn't see me do it. It was gold when he opened it.
Thats evil...
because right now I am out of diet dr. pepper and had to drink peach tea, lol.

[Crown Royal]

Thats evil...
because right now I am out of diet dr. pepper and had to drink peach tea, lol.

Diet Dr. Pepper is fermented weasel slobber.

I speak truth.

[jterrell]

Yeah...but...JT....

You've actually played at a high level before.

Some of us (like me) are living vicariously through the NFL.:laugh2::D








:cry2:

My 'high level' was some college special teams. Not exactly the stuff of legend, lol.

I am just ok with being a big silly fan that doesnt expect that part of my life to reflect my own non-fan ideals. NFL Football is an escape and a passion but I am not forgetting it is here because it makes tons of money each season for the owners, television stations and players.

All the purists really should just coach/follow little league and stay away from the pros who corrupt the concept regularly. I can accept I am in it to be entertained. Watching NFL football is simply the most entertainment I can get legally and without getting a divorce.

[jterrell]

Diet Dr. Pepper is fermented weasel slobber.

I speak truth.
rofl.
i love it man. 32 ounces a day at least.

[jterrell]

btw i woke up at 4:45 this am and need a kick for staying up this late see you guys tomorrow:)

[Crown Royal]

rofl.
i love it man. 32 ounces a day at least.

Less WoW+more standing and walking = REAL DP.

^^^^
Best math you'll ever read, my man.




(Actually, being out here on the road, I have come really close to buying WoW).

[Rack Bauer]

My 'high level' was some college special teams. Not exactly the stuff of legend, lol.

I am just ok with being a big silly fan that doesnt expect that part of my life to reflect my own non-fan ideals. NFL Football is an escape and a passion but I am not forgetting it is here because it makes tons of money each season for the owners, television stations and players.

All the purists really should just coach/follow little league and stay away from the pros who corrupt the concept regularly. I can accept I am in it to be entertained. Watching NFL football is simply the most entertainment I can get legally and without getting a divorce.



I started playing again (semi-pro) about 2 years ago. The one thing I've noticed is that it's really helped me keep my temper in check. It's been a very good stress relief for me.

Haven't you noticed I haven't attacked any morons here in a long time? Now you know why.


Although lately my patience has been tested. And we have a bye week this week so I may not be able to take my anger out on anyone else for awhile. I may just end up going off on one of these guys pretty soon. :bang2:

[Rack Bauer]

Less WoW+more standing and walking = REAL DP.

^^^^
Best math you'll ever read, my man.




(Actually, being out here on the road, I have come really close to buying WoW).


I've heard that Oblivian is pretty good. Don't have a 360 yet so I won't be trying it out anytime soon.

[Crown Royal]

I started playing again (semi-pro) about 2 years ago. The one thing I've noticed is that it's really helped me keep my temper in check. It's been a very good stress relief for me.

Haven't you noticed I haven't attacked any morons here in a long time? Now you know why.


Although lately my patience has been tested. And we have a bye week this week so I may not be able to take my anger out on anyone else for awhile. I may just end up going off on one of these guys pretty soon. :bang2:

You play FB, right?

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The Boys need one.:D

[DWAREZ]

You nailed it Dale ..I understand the criticism of TO but this pious "moralism" to ground why we should not have signed TO is absurd. Further, the entire local media are like vultures on attack and are spewing nonsense to shape general fan perspective with their own gross bias.

They either choose to ignore or recontextualize our own history on such matters and overstate the case ad naseum to gain support for their agenda's. Even in critical analysis one must be sure to ALSO be self-critical of one's own presuppositions or credability is simply thrown out the window.

One can accurately argue for concern without employing mental gymnastics to ground moral reasons why Dallas should not have signed TO. Further, one could simply qualify serious concerns without attempting to ground the objection in a sport that celebrates joyfully its superstars while often ignoring their indiscretions that are morally detestable in a civil context.

At least to me, the venomous and uncritical reflections we are reading from the local Dallas market is not only unified in vision and scope but does have agenda written all over the matter. If not, then they could simply qualify, avoid overstatements and ambigious "moralism" while being honest about their concerns and preferences.

If someone wants to argue to the contrary, provide me with several samples of anything positive on the matter without the monomania with the negative. If this were simply just a small sample of the local product then there would be no questions on the matter but it appears to be most of the whole. Further, no one is arguing you have to follow the opposite of uncritical praise for signing TO with not one mention of substantial concerns on the issue. That would be the polar opposite but the same philosophical problematic as its counterpart.The avoidance of the either/or fallacy could be helpful in this context to avoid more logical fallacies on both ends.

[Rack Bauer]

You play FB, right?

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The Boys need one.:D


Yeah I play FB.


But the boys need a good one.

One that can block, run, and catch.


Well... I can catch. 1 out of 3 ain't bad. :D

[Clove]

For me I want to win. And I will gamble with a great player every time. The object is to WIN. I don't care what other fans say about me, I don't care about what some freak talk show says about me, I have the right to my opinion and my opinion is, I want to win.

I was so upset that we didn't draft MOSS, I could hardly talk. If I knew we could give up 3 1st round picks, I would give them up for Brady or Peyton Manning. The Redskins take risks, no matter what you say about them, they try to do everything in their power to win, and that's how Jerry is.

It's obvious it's a conservative risk if you ask me, because TO does not hold leverage in this deal, the boys do. I don't think TO is dumb enough to blow his last opportunity not only for a great paycheck, but for his legacy to be a good one. Rosenhaus is smart enough to brief TO on the fact that he can make more than that 25 million in Commercials and what not if he can just control himself.

[Rumor]

:rolleyes: :starspin :starspin One thing I have noticed as of late....any thread involving TO's name or anything to do with him, among other things is mostly bull**** with some ppl. I am tired of the whiners!!! **** Up *****es! Deal with things and have faith in your team....

:confused: Im gonna get in trouble for that...ah well....:rolleyes:

:lmao: :bow: :laugh2: :lmao: :laugh2: :bow: :p: ;) :cool:

[Hoov]

I went on record before as stating that TO was the player i hate most in the NFL. But i would say a lot of that was because he was so good and so cocky and played for the eagles and 49ers, the 2 teams i despise.

He'll always be cocky, arrogant, but now he'll be scoring TD's for the Boys and dominating other teams dbacks. Doesnt mean i'm going to go buy a TO jersey (actually i wouldnt spend 80 bucks for anyone's jersey). But to be honest, the way everything has worked out, i think he is a good fit for this team at this time. I think things will really work out given the following circumstances

1) he's getting paid like the best wr in the NFL
2) owner JJones and coach parcells will know how to work with him better than a lot of others
3) The QB wont be battling with him for the title of "who runs the show" in dallas. I really think bledsoe just wants to go out a winner, no ego trips or head games for him.
4) We really dont have any other flashy, superstar type players on offense, just a bunch of young guys trying to establish their nfl carreers with a few veterans who want to win now.

5) the exception to #4 might be T Glenn and Witten because they are already established as great players, but they are both more low profile guys who avoid the spotlight and both will benefit from having TO on the team.

So i am happy with the TO signing. I really dont see what he would start something over, unless the team just comes out and starts losing, then he may start pointing fingers, but with our talent and parcells coaching philosophy were team is stressed over individual stats, i dont see that taking place.

So maybe im wrong and he blows up at the end of this year or next year. Parcells will probably just have him cut, and what have we lost - Keyshawn, who would have probably not played with this team after this year anyway, some of Mr Jones' money ? Its not like we traded a great player or draft pic to get him, and then if we cut him were going to be like "oh man, who's going to play wr now".

[CrazyCowboy]

Great point!

[DWAREZ]

Good post Hoov..I agree!!

[adbutcher]

Right, and since most people who respond to polls and feedback are complaining about something, this even proves the point even more.

I'm sorry, but I hate Buddy Ryan more than any sports player or coach in ANY league, but if he's hired by the Cowboys, I'll still root for the Cowboys. I won't root for Buddy Ryan but I'll root for the Cowboys.

All of these so-called fans who say they're no longer Cowboys fans or going to root "against" the Cowboys are nothing more than hot air looking for a place to vent. The season is months away from starting and it's VERY easy to say whatever you want right now.

I guarantee you that almost every one of those people turning on the Cowboys now will be all excited if/when the Cowboys start winning games.

I'm not a fan of T.O. at all nor did I want him signed .. I just didn't want him on any other NFC East team .. that was my only wish. However, he's here .. like it or not .. he's here ..

We can gripe all we want, that's our right as fans, but I will never stop being a Cowboys fan and I will never root against the Cowboys.

I'm a life-long Cowboys fan and I will always be one. Period.

-Reality
Perfectly stated.