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trickblue
03-23-2006, 04:18 PM
VY talk
I haven't talked to Parcells, but I would think he isn't doing cartwheels over the TO deal. But what people don't understand is that Bill realizes that Jerry is his boss and he wanted it. I think that his biggest regret is that it cost Key a spot on this team.
Parcells could care less about personality issues in the locker room.
I think Jerry is capable of wearing someone down on the topic. Bill realized Jery wanted this and went along.
Vanderjagt is a kicker. Who cares what kind of nut he is. Lack of FG's cost Dallas three games last year. He isn't as clutch as Vinatieri but he is very good inside of the 40.
If you are going to spend that type of money, why not go out and get the best? (Vinatieri)
I like the Culpepper to Miami and Brees to NO deal. I think that Brees' shoulder is of more a concern than Culpepper's knee. If his shoulder is ok, it is a heck of a deal for NO.
In Minny Brad wanted to see Culpepper embrace his new program. Word is that Culpepper had his way up there and came and went as he pleased.
sacase
03-23-2006, 04:21 PM
Hasn't talked to Parcells, but yet he knows what he is thinking....right....
RCowboyFan
03-23-2006, 04:24 PM
Mortensen speculating about Jerry and BP here. And Mortensen is pulling things out of air seems like. From what BP commented about TO last year when asked during that controversy, says to me, BP was as much into this deal as Jerry was.

But I am sure, all the media buddies will be saying this is JErry's deal if it fails and if it succeeded, its all because of BP. :rolleyes:
burmafrd
03-23-2006, 04:25 PM
Considering how few people BP talks too- and even fewer that he REALLY talks to- Mort claiming he knows what BP wants, etc is pretty much an ego thing.
SultanOfSix
03-23-2006, 04:25 PM
Why do these mediots think that BP had no choice in this decision, as if he conceded to this one wish of Jerry against his own will? Weren't these same mediots the ones predicting an explosive relationship that couldn't last more than a year, and now that it has a good chance to explode because of this so-called disagreement between BP and JJ on TO, it suddenly doesn't happen because BP can now get "worn" down.

What idiots. Mortenson is losing his credibility.
dmq
03-23-2006, 04:27 PM
OK Mort, you know the mind of Parcells. I don't know his mind and I have been following him his entire career.
Doomsday101
03-23-2006, 04:28 PM
Mortensen speculating about Jerry and BP here. And Mortensen is pulling things out of air seems like. From what BP commented about TO last year when asked during that controversy, says to me, BP was as much into this deal as Jerry was.

But I am sure, all the media buddies will be saying this is JErry's deal if it fails and if it succeeded, its all because of BP. :rolleyes:

I agree with your statement. As for Mort for a guy who is suppose to be a close friend of BP he seems to be missing on many of his rumors regarding BP
Chocolate Lab
03-23-2006, 04:28 PM
Sounds like Parcells hasn't spoken to Mort since he used Chris to get that raise after the season. ;)
RCowboyFan
03-23-2006, 04:31 PM
Sounds like Parcells hasn't spoken to Mort since he used Chris to get that raise after the season. ;)

:lmao2:
FuzzyLumpkins
03-23-2006, 04:34 PM
The one thing that strikes me is that while Parcells is mum on the subject just as he is on everything in the offseason, Bledsoe is all gung ho for the move. He has been all over the TV and radio since the signing voicing his support.

From what i understand Parcells and he do talk which Mortenson cant say and why would he be against Owens if his QB thinks he can work with him and hes got a ton of talent. I realize its easier to sell discord but I just dont see this as responsible journalism.
adbutcher
03-23-2006, 04:41 PM
I swear the sports mediots are getting lazier and lazier. There was a time when a reporter spoke only in facts now it is all about spewing unsubstantiated garbage for shock value.
TheSkaven
03-23-2006, 04:44 PM
Hey, let's not forget guys that Mort is the one who made the introduction between Bill and Jerry and got him thinking about the job. We owe him that one! :) And seriously, Mort and Bill do talk and were tight from their time together on ESPN, I wouldn't doubt that Mort can dig up tidbits here and there from the big man, himself.
tyke1doe
03-23-2006, 04:46 PM
Considering how few people BP talks too- and even fewer that he REALLY talks to- Mort claiming he knows what BP wants, etc is pretty much an ego thing.

Mort did have a relationship with Parcells during the latters stint on ESPN's football game set.

I think you can pick up a lot about a person, especially if Mort and Parcells had a chance to talk football. Remember, Terrell Owens has been in the league while Parcells was a football commentator. And I suspect they have had conversations about not only football but players.

Again, this is speculation, but it is possible to get a glimpse into someone's mind and understanding if you know them.
ctalker
03-23-2006, 05:08 PM
Parcells is crafty and knows how to work the media. It wouldn't susprise me if Parcells is leaking these rumors to the media so he won't look bad later if it backfires on him.
WoodysGirl
03-23-2006, 05:11 PM
Hey, let's not forget guys that Mort is the one who made the introduction between Bill and Jerry and got him thinking about the job. We owe him that one! :) And seriously, Mort and Bill do talk and were tight from their time together on ESPN, I wouldn't doubt that Mort can dig up tidbits here and there from the big man, himself.Thought that was Pat Summerall?? :confused:
adbutcher
03-23-2006, 05:21 PM
Thought that was Pat Summerall?? :confused:
:hammer:
Rockytop6
03-23-2006, 05:33 PM
Parcells is crafty and knows how to work the media. It wouldn't susprise me if Parcells is leaking these rumors to the media so he won't look bad later if it backfires on him.

I don't see the problem with Mort saying that he doesn't think that Parcells was gungho on the deal but since Jerry really wanted TO that he went along with it but what bothered Parcells the most was losing Key. What is wrong with that? Jerry is Parcells' boss, but Jerry has supported Parcells in about everything he has wanted to do. BP has never had a boss that gave him such latitude. Now, Parcells is saying that Jerry has really worked with him and now Jerry really wants something and he isn't going to stand in the way.

Also, it speaks well of Parcells that he regrets losing Key more than he regrets having TO on the team.
What is the big deal here? It speaks well of JJ's and BP's relationship that it is still working. In any type of situation you always have a give and take relationship. They complement each other pretty good. Although I could still kick their rears sometimes, I have to grudgingly admit they work pretty well together.
jterrell
03-23-2006, 05:38 PM
Mort did have a relationship with Parcells during the latters stint on ESPN's football game set.

I think you can pick up a lot about a person, especially if Mort and Parcells had a chance to talk football. Remember, Terrell Owens has been in the league while Parcells was a football commentator. And I suspect they have had conversations about not only football but players.

Again, this is speculation, but it is possible to get a glimpse into someone's mind and understanding if you know them.

Parcells last public comments on TO were they he "showed me something coming back from a broken leg to play in the Super Bowl".

BP sounded like he would have never ocnsidered TO before that but then he would have to. This was in reference to whether or not TO could play for him.He said he couldn't comment beyond that because he played for another team.

If Mort is going off of some old BP info he is probably guessing.
JPM
03-23-2006, 05:42 PM
Mortenson AKA The Amazing Kreskin !!

http://www.corporateartists.com/images/kreskin.jpg
lkelly
03-23-2006, 05:45 PM
Why would Parcells care about T.O. signing with Dallas? Bill retired, right?
ConcordCowboy
03-23-2006, 05:47 PM
I don't care what Parcells thinks about Owens!

He's on the team Now...So coach him and lets win the Super Bowl!
speedkilz88
03-23-2006, 06:01 PM
I don't see the problem with Mort saying that he doesn't think that Parcells was gungho on the deal but since Jerry really wanted TO that he went along with it but what bothered Parcells the most was losing Key. What is wrong with that? Jerry is Parcells' boss, but Jerry has supported Parcells in about everything he has wanted to do. BP has never had a boss that gave him such latitude. Now, Parcells is saying that Jerry has really worked with him and now Jerry really wants something and he isn't going to stand in the way.

Also, it speaks well of Parcells that he regrets losing Key more than he regrets having TO on the team.
What is the big deal here? It speaks well of JJ's and BP's relationship that it is still working. In any type of situation you always have a give and take relationship. They complement each other pretty good. Although I could still kick their rears sometimes, I have to grudgingly admit they work pretty well together.Because he is speaking for Parcells because they are "friends" when it is total speculation on his part. He needs to report the news, not make it up.
felix360
03-23-2006, 06:08 PM
isnt Mort the one that was saying that BP was going to retire?? :confused:
Yakuza Rich
03-24-2006, 07:47 AM
Mortenson was the same guy saying that Parcells was going to retire after every year and claimed that Henson would be starting the first game of 2004, when Quincy was still with the team.

Anything I hear out of Mortenson regarding the Cowboys I take with a grain of salt.

Rich............
BARRYRAY
03-24-2006, 08:50 AM
I guess I don't get the manlove for Key that this board has, we weren't ever going to go anywhere with Key, he was a good team player but he is slower than molasses, TO may not work out either but does anybody think Key was gonna lead us to the next level, I for one would bet the farm that both Key and LA disappear from games faster than you can imagine. Say what you will but when they leave the Cowboys in the last few years it was actually past time career wise, man we are the Branson of the NFL, you leave us its time for retirement...
DBoys
03-24-2006, 09:06 AM
Mort is so bad I expect to see him let go sometime in the future.

I like Adam from NFL Network
superpunk
03-24-2006, 09:10 AM
I haven't talked to Parcells, but I would think he isn't doing cartwheels over the TO deal. But what people don't understand is that Bill realizes that Jerry is his boss and he wanted it. I think that his biggest regret is that it cost Key a spot on this team.The important part of that segment has been "bolded."



I think Jerry is capable of wearing someone down on the topic. Bill realized Jery wanted this and went along.

Show of hand of people who actually remotely believe this is possible....
DBoys
03-24-2006, 09:11 AM
[/list]The important part of that segment has been "bolded."



Show of hand of people who actually remotely believe this is possible....

hahah not I
superpunk
03-24-2006, 09:12 AM
hahah not I

The thought of ANYONE wearing Bill down seems completely ridiculous to me. This is not the sort of man you can badger until you get your way.
juck
03-24-2006, 09:12 AM
this cat is a di#k.
DBoys
03-24-2006, 09:18 AM
The thought of ANYONE wearing Bill down seems completely ridiculous to me. This is not the sort of man you can badger until you get your way.

No kidding his past is full of people who tried to do that to him and Bill walked away in a non polite way. Jerry and Bill respect each other enough to care about the relationship. Jerry even touched on it in the TO PC.
vicjagger
03-24-2006, 10:45 AM
...Show of hand of people who actually remotely believe this is possible....

I'm sitting on mine.
RCowboyFan
03-24-2006, 10:47 AM
I'm sitting on mine.

I hope the finger is not pointing upwards? :eek:
aikemirv
03-24-2006, 10:49 AM
I will never understand why someone thinks Bp was not in on this.

He had the opportunity to retire. If he was not on board with this he would have IMO. That is so plain and simple, it is just stupidity to assume anything else!
superpunk
03-24-2006, 10:51 AM
I will never understand why someone thinks Bp was not in on this.

He had the opportunity to retire. If he was not on board with this he would have IMO. That is so plain and simple, it is just stupidity to assume anything else!

It's pretty simple -

If there's no story there, but you would really, really, really, really, like one to be - just make something up.
JackMagist
03-24-2006, 10:52 AM
The one thing that strikes me is that while Parcells is mum on the subject just as he is on everything in the offseason, Bledsoe is all gung ho for the move. He has been all over the TV and radio since the signing voicing his support.Bledsoe would be smart to do this regardless of how he might feel privately about the deal. He is certainly not going to come out against the deal and alienate the headcase before the season even starts. Bledsoe isn't stupid afterall; he is going to try his dead level best to get off on the right foot with our new nut job.