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t.o.boys81
03-24-2006, 09:49 PM
Do any of you believe that Drew Bledsoe is the quarterback to lead the Cowboys back to a Super Bowl victory?:lombardi:
Yeagermeister
03-24-2006, 09:52 PM
Do any of you believe that Drew Bledsoe is the quarterback to lead the Cowboys back to a Super Bowl victory?:lombardi:
I'm not sold either way but does it really matter because we don't have anyone better on the roster.
Jerruh
03-24-2006, 09:59 PM
I don't see why not..Dilfer and Brad Johnson won the Super Bowl and Bledsoe is better then both of them..If our defense can continue to improve then there should be no reason that Bledsoe can't get us another:lombardi: trophy
CowboyMike
03-24-2006, 09:59 PM
I believe he's perfectly capable of it. Bledsoe has "it". I can't describe it. But he has it. It's just a feeling.
spook930
03-24-2006, 10:04 PM
yeah hes solid qb
big dog cowboy
03-24-2006, 10:06 PM
Given todays NFL, heck yes he can win a super bowl.
SouthernStar
03-24-2006, 10:08 PM
He'd better be, because he's the only one we have and the only one that Parcells will play......
Cbz40
03-24-2006, 10:09 PM
I feel confident he can.......he better he's the man
drew bledsoe is perfectly capable of leading us to a superbowl..
KingTuna
03-24-2006, 10:20 PM
Do any of you believe that Drew Bledsoe is the quarterback to lead the Cowboys back to a Super Bowl victory?:lombardi:
In a word....
ABSOLUTLEY FRIGGIN YES...........
Sorry, guess that was 3 words!! ;)
:starspin
cml750
03-24-2006, 10:31 PM
Hate to be the first negative response in this thread but I really don't think he has "it". QB's who have "it" don't end up playing for 3 different teams. If we win a SB (which I doubt but hope so) it won't be because of Bledsoe.
NorTex
03-24-2006, 10:40 PM
Comp/Att Yards TD INT
B. Roethlisberger 9/21 123 0 2
I think Bledsoe can exceed the above stats, don't you.
Bledsoe4MVP
03-24-2006, 10:42 PM
Do any of you believe that Drew Bledsoe is the quarterback to lead the Cowboys back to a Super Bowl victory?:lombardi:
In a word.....YES!
:bow: :bow: :bow:
Bledsoe4MVP
03-24-2006, 10:43 PM
I believe he's perfectly capable of it. Bledsoe has "it". I can't describe it. But he has it. It's just a feeling.
I concur.
:bow: :bow: :bow:
Cochese
03-24-2006, 10:43 PM
Drew is the best QB we have had since Aikman, but that isnt saying alot. I like to see him when he has perfect protection, but other wise it is flat out sickening. He is the perfect example of a good player that just isnt good enough to be considered elite.
Cochese
03-24-2006, 10:44 PM
Hate to be the first negative response in this thread but I really don't think he has "it". QB's who have "it" don't end up playing for 3 different teams. If we win a SB (which I doubt but hope so) it won't be because of Bledsoe.
Brady has IT. That is why Brady started the SB, and Bledoe got shipped off to the Bills.
Bledsoe4MVP
03-24-2006, 10:44 PM
Hate to be the first negative response in this thread but I really don't think he has "it". QB's who have "it" don't end up playing for 3 different teams. If we win a SB (which I doubt but hope so) it won't be because of Bledsoe.
Your right, especially considering he was replaced by a guy who won 3 superbowls in new england, then replaced by akili smith jr. in buffalo.....:laugh1:
Bledsoe4MVP
03-24-2006, 10:45 PM
Drew is the best QB we have had since Aikman, but that isnt saying alot. I like to see him when he has perfect protection, but other wise it is flat out sickening. He is the perfect example of a good player that just isnt good enough to be considered elite.
He passed for 3600 yards and 23 TD's despite not having a running game or an above average line....what more do you want?
With an improved and healthy line, TO and hopefully a running game....you have yet to see the real Drew Bledsoe, be patient......
rdsknsbaby
03-24-2006, 10:46 PM
Do any of you believe that Drew Bledsoe is the quarterback to lead the Cowboys back to a Super Bowl victory?:lombardi:
no...
Cochese
03-24-2006, 10:47 PM
He passed for 3600 yards and 23 TD's despite not having a running game or an above average line....what more do you want?
With an improved and healthy line, TO and hopefully a running game....you have yet to see the real Drew Bledsoe, be patient......
Dude, I know you love Bledsoe, but the Pats saw the real Bledsoe, and let a 2nd year player start over him. If that is the REAL Bledsoe, then I will pass.
Bledsoe4MVP
03-24-2006, 10:51 PM
Dude, I know you love Bledsoe, but the Pats saw the real Bledsoe, and let a 2nd year player start over him. If that is the REAL Bledsoe, then I will pass.
They let a 2nd year player start because Bledsoe got hurt man! They weren't going to disrupt the team chemistry late in the season when Bledsoe got healhty. Also Bellechek was never on board the Bledsoe bandwagon since he arrived there in new england. Tom Brady is the best QB in the league, so what should that tell you about the guy he replaced??
Cochese
03-24-2006, 10:55 PM
They let a 2nd year player start because Bledsoe got hurt man! They weren't going to disrupt the team chemistry late in the season when Bledsoe got healhty. Also Bellechek was never on board the Bledsoe bandwagon since he arrived there in new england. Tom Brady is the best QB in the league, so what should that tell you about the guy he replaced??
Sure, sure. I can accept a Bledsoe apologists point of view. Did the Bills see the REAL Bledsoe when they opted for a piece of crap rookie over him? Looking forward to the excuses.
koolaid
03-24-2006, 10:56 PM
when bledsoe is protected he is a top 5 qb in the nfl IMO. protect him, and we will win.
in other words, yes i think he can win us a SB
CowboyMike
03-24-2006, 11:01 PM
Hate to be the first negative response in this thread but I really don't think he has "it". QB's who have "it" don't end up playing for 3 different teams. If we win a SB (which I doubt but hope so) it won't be because of Bledsoe.
I don't think he had "it" before he got here, I really don't.
But once he arrived in Dallas, it seemed like he got that swagger. He's here with a chip on his shoulder. He's got "it" as a Cowboy.
TexasTornado
03-24-2006, 11:03 PM
He's our QB...so YES he can lead us to another SB.
Hate to be the first negative response in this thread but I really don't think he has "it". QB's who have "it" don't end up playing for 3 different teams. If we win a SB (which I doubt but hope so) it won't be because of Bledsoe.
How many different teams is it that Brad Johnson & Trent Dilfer have wound up playing for again? Uh-huh thats right!! Are they better QB's then Bledsoe? Not in this lifetime. Did they win superbowls? Yep sure did. Do either of them have this "IT" you refer to? I'd say NOPE but they won a superbowl anyway with a TEAM effort. The question was can he lead us to a superbowl. Absolutely he can with a good supporting cast & solid defense! Can he help us win a superbowl? Once again the answer is absolutely. Can Drew win the SB all by himself? Of course not its a team effort, not a one man army. How many other superbowls were won by the QB alone? He has what it takes to get us there and gives us the chance to win it too. I hate to say it to a fellow Cowboys fan but your negative response is pointless, factless & clueless. :banghead:
Death Star
03-24-2006, 11:19 PM
Sure, sure. I can accept a Bledsoe apologists point of view. Did the Bills see the REAL Bledsoe when they opted for a piece of crap rookie over him? Looking forward to the excuses.
Drew played for the Bills for 3 years. The first year he did OK with an 86 QB rating for the year, although the OL was not very good at all. Then over the next two years the OLine went to absolute ****, resulting in Drew getting hammered repeatedly out there. At the end of that third year after 2 years of a matador OL, the Bills were faced with two options: either focus heavily on fixing that line while making several other problem areas on the team less of a priority to fix during that offseason (they could only pull off so much at once), or cut their losses with Drew, put a younger and more mobile QB in there (Losman), and fix a bigger assortment of problems in the offseason while not focusing too much on the OL. They chose the latter, and got bit in the tail for their trouble, basically ruining their young QB prospect as well by also subjecting him to that same horrible OL, screwing him up in terms of development, media portrayal, and fan support.
The Bills completely dropped the ball in how they handled their business, and they'd be the last people I'd trust for perspective on this. You can bet a ton of Bills fans are looking back with regret on how things went down with that entire situation.
Bledsoe4MVP
03-24-2006, 11:24 PM
Sure, sure. I can accept a Bledsoe apologists point of view. Did the Bills see the REAL Bledsoe when they opted for a piece of crap rookie over him? Looking forward to the excuses.
The Bills are a notoriously cheap organization....that's why they are busy this offseason signing back-ups from washington hoping to field a 6 win team, while were signing TO and other proven veterans ready to make superbowl run.
With that said they cut Bledsoe for a few reasons:
1) He was making a ton of money there and eating up cap space, and refused to restructure his contract
2) Mike Mularkey wanted JP Losman to start, that's why they traded all those picks to us to get him.
3) Tom Donahoe is an idiot and didn't realize Drew needed an oline and receivers to put up big numbers. He needed a scapegoat after the 2004 season....Bledsoe was it.
These are the facts man, it has nothing to do with a 'Bledsoe Apologist' point of view. Go to the bills message board and 75% of the fans will agree with what I told you, the others are just delusional homers that think JP Losman is going to be the next Brett Favre. ;)
Bledsoe4MVP
03-24-2006, 11:26 PM
Drew played for the Bills for 3 years. The first year he did OK with an 86 QB rating for the year, although the OL was not very good at all. Then over the next two years the OLine went to absolute ****, resulting in Drew getting hammered repeatedly out there. At the end of that third year after 2 years of a matador OL, the Bills were faced with two options: either focus heavily on fixing that line while making several other problem areas on the team less of a priority to fix during that offseason (they could only pull off so much at once), or cut their losses with Drew, put in a younger and more mobile QB in there (Losman), and fix a bigger assortment of problems in the offseason while not focusing too much on the OL. They chose the latter, and got bit in the tail for their trouble, basically ruining their young QB prospect as well by also subjecting him to that horrible OL, screwing him up in terms of development, media portrayal, and fan support.
The Bills completely dropped the ball in how they handled their business, and they'd be the last people I'd trust for perspective on this. You can bet a ton of Bills fans are looking back with regret on how things went down with that entire situation.
Precisely what I just said in another post....more or less.
Let's also not forget that after the 2002 season when Drew shattered team offensive records.....Donahoe traded Peerless Price and failed to resign Larry Centers or Jay Riermsma, or replace them for that matter.......that was 50% of Drew's production!!
You can't fire a cannon without ammunition people!! It's that simple! :cool:
FuzzyLumpkins
03-24-2006, 11:36 PM
All I know is that the pass receivers that we have on this team have strengths that match with his strengths. Bowth Owens excell at deep and intermediate routes and we have a TE that can operate as his safety blanket in Jason Witten
dcfanatic
03-24-2006, 11:53 PM
Drew Bledsoe played well enough last to bring this team to the Super Bowl. If the kicking situation, the offensive line played better and the defense didn't falter a little at the end of the season he would have done just that.
Over the first half of the season he was headed to the Pro Bowl, then the Flo injury and Petitti falling apart brought him back down to Earth.
KingTuna
03-24-2006, 11:58 PM
Comp/Att Yards TD INT
B. Roethlisberger 9/21 123 0 2
I think Bledsoe can exceed the above stats, don't you.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! BINGO! :lmao:
SuspectCorner
03-25-2006, 12:02 AM
bledsoe won't carry this team on his back but he can be a major cog in well-rounded machine.
in summary, he won't be the weak link. the head and arm are still sound. i was down on him when the Cowboys inked him. he made a believer out of me last season. he's a pro's pro.
CowboyMike
03-25-2006, 12:04 AM
If you give him protection and time he'll kill anyone with his arm. We haven't had quarterback play as good as Bledsoe since 1998.
And plus the addition of TO helps everything. Who you gonna cover?
Can anyone say MVP?
lgarcia792002
03-25-2006, 12:09 AM
i agree with most ppl on hear drew still has it in him there is no reason for him not to be able to get us to the super bowl he is a solid qb i like his arm his arm should take us to the next level
Bledsoe4MVP
03-25-2006, 12:36 AM
bledsoe won't carry this team on his back but he can be a major cog in well-rounded machine.
in summary, he won't be the weak link. the head and arm are still sound. i was down on him when the Cowboys inked him. he made a believer out of me last season. he's a pro's pro.
If you look at last season the numbers say otherwise.....seriously where would this team have been WITHOUT Drew? He led this team to multiple cardiac cowboy style comebacks (specifically the chargers, chiefs, 49ers,eagles, panthers, etc). His only really bad games were at NY and Washington.
Also he did this without a good oline the 2nd half of the season, no running game, and no real weapon like TO!!
Bledsoe4MVP
03-25-2006, 12:38 AM
If you give him protection and time he'll kill anyone with his arm. We haven't had quarterback play as good as Bledsoe since 1998.
And plus the addition of TO helps everything. Who you gonna cover?
Can anyone say MVP?
TO changes everything.....he will make this offense that much better, even with an average to subpar offensive line!
Can you imagine what it's going to be like when TO draws double and triple coverage!! That means that T Glenn will be going one on one and Witten will be roaming free down the middle of the field! Also look out for Crayton or whoever the 3rd and 4th receiver might be!
This may very well be Drew's best season yet.....and yes I can say MVP!!!:bow: :bow: :bow:
Bob Sacamano
03-25-2006, 12:39 AM
Drew is the best QB we have had since Aikman, but that isnt saying alot. I like to see him when he has perfect protection, but other wise it is flat out sickening. He is the perfect example of a good player that just isnt good enough to be considered elite.
you could call him a QB who won't win games for you, although he won a couple games last year for us, Bledsoe needs a line, just like any Super Bowl winning QB, plus a quality supporting cast, which we're trying to surround him with...
Bob Sacamano
03-25-2006, 12:40 AM
Dude, I know you love Bledsoe, but the Pats saw the real Bledsoe, and let a 2nd year player start over him. If that is the REAL Bledsoe, then I will pass.
the Pats saw Bledsoe lead them to an AFC Championship win that launched them to their 1st of 3 Super Bowl trophies...
Bob Sacamano
03-25-2006, 12:40 AM
How many different teams is it that Brad Johnson & Trent Dilfer have wound up playing for again? Uh-huh thats right!! Are they better QB's then Bledsoe? Not in this lifetime. Did they win superbowls? Yep sure did. Do either of them have this "IT" you refer to? I'd say NOPE but they won a superbowl anyway with a TEAM effort. The question was can he lead us to a superbowl. Absolutely he can with a good supporting cast & solid defense! Can he help us win a superbowl? Once again the answer is absolutely. Can Drew win the SB all by himself? Of course not its a team effort, not a one man army. How many other superbowls were won by the QB alone? He has what it takes to get us there and gives us the chance to win it too. I hate to say it to a fellow Cowboys fan but your negative response is pointless, factless & clueless. :banghead:
:hammer:
Cochese
03-25-2006, 12:56 AM
the Pats saw Bledsoe lead them to an AFC Championship win that launched them to their 1st of 3 Super Bowl trophies...
And...........who did they start in that Super Bowl?
Bledsoe4MVP
03-25-2006, 12:58 AM
the Pats saw Bledsoe lead them to an AFC Championship win that launched them to their 1st of 3 Super Bowl trophies...
Don't forget the superbowl in 96 either that led them out of the AFC Doldrums!
It's nice to see you on the Drew bandwagon my man!!! :D
Bob Sacamano
03-25-2006, 01:02 AM
And...........who did they start in that Super Bowl?
Brady, but the Pats still saw that Bledsoe can win important games, such as the AFC Championship game, meaning he could do the same thing here in Dallas if he gets a good line in front of him, and has a good supporting cast around him, like each and every Super Bowl winning team...
Bob Sacamano
03-25-2006, 01:03 AM
Don't forget the superbowl in 96 either that led them out of the AFC Doldrums!
It's nice to see you on the Drew bandwagon my man!!! :D
I've always been on the bandwagon, but of course Bledsoe had to win me over at 1st
SuspectCorner
03-25-2006, 01:09 AM
If you look at last season the numbers say otherwise.....seriously where would this team have been WITHOUT Drew? He led this team to multiple cardiac cowboy style comebacks (specifically the chargers, chiefs, 49ers,eagles, panthers, etc). His only really bad games were at NY and Washington.
Also he did this without a good oline the 2nd half of the season, no running game, and no real weapon like TO!!
excuse me if i stop short of annointing the man. he can get it done. that's all i require. but he ain't no staubach. (who is?)
Bledsoe4MVP
03-25-2006, 01:16 AM
excuse me if i stop short of annointing the man. he can get it done. that's all i require. but he ain't no staubach. (who is?)
:bow: :bow: :bow:
SuspectCorner
03-25-2006, 01:21 AM
:bow: :bow: :bow:
you're alright, Bledsoe4MVP. i don't hold drew to such lofty expectations. i'm happy with what he brings to the table.
veteran savvy and a cannon arm. works for me.
Bledsoe4MVP
03-25-2006, 01:27 AM
you're alright, Bledsoe4MVP. i don't hold drew to such lofty expectations. i'm happy with what he brings to the table.
veteran savvy and a cannon arm. works for me.
Thanks man, no need to hold him to lofty expectations....leave that to me! :D
But yes the veteran savvy and cannon arm should be enough to appease the majority of the skeptics this season, I admit I was apprehensive about the TO signing...but this is exactly what Drew needs to really make some noise and silence the critics once and for all! :cool:
Zaxor
03-25-2006, 03:49 AM
The trick to winning a SB with Bledsoe is to take as much as possible out of his hands... i.e.
Make sure your Special teams creates good field position...
a reliable FG Kicker, A punter that can put it consistently behind the 20, Kickoff coverage unit that is smothering
Make sure the defense is attacking and can cause turn-overs...
It has to be able to to keep a lead...
When put in bad field position by a bledsoe fumble/int/sack...it has to rise to the occassion which is likely 3-5 times a game
An outstanding oline...
a probowl TE
a probowl WR
a probowl RB...
Make sure to use the pass to set up the run...try to never/ever get into a must pass situation... try to limit Bledsoe to only timing routes...1-2-3 ball away stuff...
If you do all this your chances are good take away one of these things and your chances drop significantly take 2 away and your chances stand at even take 3 and you have vitually no chance...thats my opinion until proven wrong
Avenging Hayseed
03-25-2006, 05:03 AM
Part of learning is knowing when to admit you are wrong. When we signed Drew I was pretty luke warm on it. Didnt think he was bad but wasnt a real fan either. I was WRONG. Drew is a standup guy, a winner, givin the components around him that ALL Q.B's need he is MORE THAN CAPABLE of winning a Superbowl with the Cowboys organization. Aftwer watching himlast season, I mean REALLY watching, because now he was a member of my team I grew to admire him as a Q.B. The guy bailed us out more than a couple times last year. We give Drew the cast, which I think wev'e done, and ring six is due.
Cowchips
03-25-2006, 05:37 AM
Sure, sure. I can accept a Bledsoe apologists point of view. Did the Bills see the REAL Bledsoe when they opted for a piece of crap rookie over him? Looking forward to the excuses.
In 2004, Bledsoe almost led a mediocre Bills team to the playoffs, after the team started 1-4 because of crap for a running game with Travis Henry (0 rushing touchdowns in 12 attempts). In 2005, same exact team with that piece of crap rookie when 5-12. Bills fans were all saying the rookie could replace Bledsoe's below average performance in 2004. So what happened?
In 2005, except for a crap kicking game, Bledsoe would have led the Cowboys to a 12-4 record.
In 2005l, Brady, the best QB in the league playing in the weakest division tossed 4 int's against KC last year and absolutely stunk in many games and in the playoffs. Was he bad, no..did he have bad supporting cast for a change..absolutely!!
Excuses perhaps. But to a knowledgable football fan, it's pretty clear it wasnt the quarterbacks fault in 2004 or 2005. People focus on Bledsoe's bad moments which are no worse than most QBs. Every QB has bad days.
Cowchips
03-25-2006, 05:40 AM
The trick to winning a SB with Bledsoe is to take as much as possible out of his hands... i.e.
Make sure your Special teams creates good field position...
a reliable FG Kicker, A punter that can put it consistently behind the 20, Kickoff coverage unit that is smothering
Make sure the defense is attacking and can cause turn-overs...
It has to be able to to keep a lead...
When put in bad field position by a bledsoe fumble/int/sack...it has to rise to the occassion which is likely 3-5 times a game
An outstanding oline...
a probowl TE
a probowl WR
a probowl RB...
Make sure to use the pass to set up the run...try to never/ever get into a must pass situation... try to limit Bledsoe to only timing routes...1-2-3 ball away stuff...
If you do all this your chances are good take away one of these things and your chances drop significantly take 2 away and your chances stand at even take 3 and you have vitually no chance...thats my opinion until proven wrong
So you're saying give him everything that the Pats have given Tom Brady. Don't forget the 7-10 points per game the defense provided during their SB years :D
Zippy Speedster
03-25-2006, 06:08 AM
Just as much "it" as half the other QBs who have won the big dance. I have complete confidence in Drew Bledsoe. Only a small handful of quarterbacks playing today would I chose ahead of him. You'll see what I'm talking about over the course of the next 3-4 years as Bled moves right up alongside Aikman in Cowboy history.
Zaxor
03-25-2006, 06:36 AM
So you're saying give him everything that the Pats have given Tom Brady. Don't forget the 7-10 points per game the defense provided during their SB years :D
Very much so...
There are very few QB's that have ever played the game...that are true difference makers ..they have "it"...Group 1
Most of the successful Qb's have very few flaws if any or are very minor... group 2
then their are those that have flaws in their game that need to be managed..if they are managed the qb can have success...Group 3
then there are those that have such major flaws that they are best suited for back-ups as they would be exposed as a starter...Group 4
and then there are those that just can't seem to put it all together for what ever reason...group 5
I think Tom is a group 2 QB...Bledsoe bounces between 3 and 4...
Roger was a group 1...Troy 2
though Troy was probably a better passer...he did not have the "it"...
I like to use Roger as my idea of "it" ..for example when everyone knew with 2 TD's that Roger could win it for you...where the redskin fans knew just as much as the Cowboy fans...You could just feel the "it" in the air...
So once again to answer the question yes it is possible to win with Bledsoe but it has to be managed...imho
Dave_in-NC
03-25-2006, 06:37 AM
I like the guy (not as much as some;) but if conditions are not perfect for him he won't get it done. For every thing he brings he also takes away.
Having to max protect, doesnt help us.
Zaxor
03-25-2006, 06:41 AM
I like the guy (not as much as some;) but if conditions are not perfect for him he won't get it done. For every thing he brings he also takes away.
Having to max protect, doesnt help us.
He seem like a real likeable guy...
and I hope that he has a fantastic season... :D
if "it" refers to an outstanding defense than yes brady had it
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