After 2 games, Henson leads NFL Europe

[Galian Beast]

Drew Henson currently leads NFL Europe in what I believe is QB rating (they say pts, but it doesn't stand for points) With 91.3. The nearest quarterback is Gibran Hamdon from Seattle with 70.8

Henson and Chang are the only quarterbacks in NFL Europe who have not thrown interceptions. (that are shown on nfle.com).

Henson has by FAR the best completion rating. With 62.9% compared to the closest competitor 57.7. Chang has a completion rating of 46.4.

Hamdan, is the only qb with a higher average gain, and he has 3 picks. Henson is well above the rest in this category as well. He doesn't have nearly the amount of attempts as most of the NFLe qbs. Having chang and henson on the same team was clearly a mistake. And hopefully Henson gets more attempts in the next game. Henson has been sacked twice in two games for 13 yards lost. Only Chang and Berlin have fewer sacks. Berlin sucks by the way, as does Chang.

If Henson continues to perform he will easily outdo Dave Ragone and Rohan Davey. And will get MVP as they did. At this point he is a shoe in.

He is doing leaps and bounds better than Chad Hutchinson, who was our starter for 9 games. And had plenty of NFL experience before coming to NFLE.

Hutchinson improved from a 66.3 QB rating in 2002, to a 73.6 qb rating in 2004 after nfl europe with the Bears.

[Bob Sacamano]

:applause:

[Galian Beast]

Chad Hutchinson's NFL Europe rating was 80.1

[littlewebs]

I just watched the video, and I can't say I like his throwing motion. It really weirds me out. This is an exaggeration, but it almost looked like he was using a dart-throwing motion.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Drew Henson currently leads NFL Europe in what I believe is QB rating (they say pts, but it doesn't stand for points) With 91.3. The nearest quarterback is Gibran Hamdon from Seattle with 70.8

Henson and Chang are the only quarterbacks in NFL Europe who have not thrown interceptions. (that are shown on nfle.com).

Henson has by FAR the best completion rating. With 62.9% compared to the closest competitor 57.7. Chang has a completion rating of 46.4.

Hamdan, is the only qb with a higher average gain, and he has 3 picks. Henson is well above the rest in this category as well. He doesn't have nearly the amount of attempts as most of the NFLe qbs. Having chang and henson on the same team was clearly a mistake. And hopefully Henson gets more attempts in the next game. Henson has been sacked twice in two games for 13 yards lost. Only Chang and Berlin have fewer sacks. Berlin sucks by the way, as does Chang.

If Henson continues to perform he will easily outdo Dave Ragone and Rohan Davey. And will get MVP as they did. At this point he is a shoe in.

He is doing leaps and bounds better than Chad Hutchinson, who was our starter for 9 games. And had plenty of NFL experience before coming to NFLE.

Hutchinson improved from a 66.3 QB rating in 2002, to a 73.6 qb rating in 2004 after nfl europe with the Bears.

At this point I can honestly care less what his rankings or ratings are. The fact that Henson is even playing in NFL Europe speaks for itself. :laugh2: :laugh1:

[Bob Sacamano]

At this point I can honestly care less what his rankings or ratings are. The fact that Henson is even playing in NFL Europe speaks for itself. :laugh2: :laugh1:

yeah, it speaks that Dallas wants Henson to see live action, live action he won't receive for the next 2 years

[Bob Sacamano]

I just watched the video, and I can't say I like his throwing motion. It really weirds me out. This is an exaggeration, but it almost looked like he was using a dart-throwing motion.

Bernie Kosar had a wierd delivery, didn't seem to hinder him much

as long as the ball gets there with good velocity...

[Bledsoe4MVP]

yeah, it speaks that Dallas wants Henson to see live action, live action he won't receive for the next 2 years

I know people don't want to hear it....but the Henson project is already a bust in my mind....I'm willing to bet he's not even on this roster when the season starts unless he can qualify for the practice squad.

Despite Bledsoe's track record of durability and toughness, we still need a proven veteran back up on this roster if we are loading up for a championship run! That leaves one more space.....We cut Romo and he will be claimed off waivers instantly by another team (likely the saints), which leaves Henson as the odd man out unless he looks the other Drew (Bledsoe) in training camp!

[Billy Bullocks]

I just watched the video, and I can't say I like his throwing motion. It really weirds me out. This is an exaggeration, but it almost looked like he was using a dart-throwing motion.

Bledsoe doesn't have the nicest release either, but he gets the ball there. Henson has been making some real nice throws. That scramble on 3rd and goal he turned into a TD was nice too.

[SultanOfSix]

I know people don't want to hear it....but the Henson project is already a bust in my mind....I'm willing to bet he's not even on this roster when the season starts unless he can qualify for the practice squad.



That's because you're Nors.

[jterrell]

You simply can't ask for more of the guy then to go win games, complete passes and not throw picks.

[Woods]

You simply can't ask for more of the guy then to go win games, complete passes and not throw picks.

Exactly.

Let's hope Henson can keep consistent the next few games.

[Jarv]

Good job Henson. The proof is in the consistancy though.

Lets revisit the stats at the end of April.

Drew is real lucky that NFLE started and ended early this year. That way he won't miss much here in the states.

What a head start he will have playing in live action this Spring. I really look forward to seeing how this game experience translates into improved play in TC and pre-season.

How any Cowboys fan can dog a QB on our team for asking for extra work to improve his game is beyond me.

Congrats Drew.

Romo... you should be there too.

[Zaxor]

Good job Henson. The proof is in the consistancy though.

Lets revisit the stats at the end of April.

Drew is real lucky that NFLE started and ended early this year. That way he won't miss much here in the states.

What a head start he will have playing in live action this Spring. I really look forward to seeing how this game experience translates into improved play in TC and pre-season.

How any Cowboys fan can dog a QB on our team for asking for extra work to improve his game is beyond me.

Congrats Drew.

Romo... you should be there too.

Its called being stupid Jarv... and the reason I know this... is because it can't be ignorance...see ignorance can be fixed... but stupid....well, stupid is forever...

You will notice a lot of repeat offenders...who offer no substantial evidence to back up any of there bs claims...but they go on and on about it... so not only are they stupid they also suffer from diarreha of the mouth...

It must suck to be them :(

[noshame]

That was done in two rain games no less. Go Drew.

[Eddie]

I just watched the video, and I can't say I like his throwing motion. It really weirds me out. This is an exaggeration, but it almost looked like he was using a dart-throwing motion.


That's called over-analyzing.

Don't worry about his throwing motion.

[Juke99]

He's doing very well.

As they stated in the game, this was only his 11th start since High School.

Ryan Leaf had a beautiful throwing motion.

'Nuff said.

[Zaxor]

He's doing very well.

As they stated in the game, this was only his 11th start since High School.

Ryan Leaf had a beautiful throwing motion.

'Nuff said.

its unfreakingbelievable:(

[Juke99]

its unfreakingbelievable:(


I've said it a dozen times...Henson says and does the right stuff. He didn't come to Dallas an expect to be handed a job because of his blue chip background.

He volunteered to go to NFLE.

How do ya not root for a guy like this?

[SouthernStar]

we still need a proven veteran back up on this roster if we are loading up for a championship run!
Amen!!!

[Jarv]

I've said it a dozen times...Henson says and does the right stuff. He didn't come to Dallas an expect to be handed a job because of his blue chip background.

He volunteered to go to NFLE.

How do ya not root for a guy like this?

Easy, you either predicted at some time he will be a bust...and don't want to look stupid...Which you really wouldn't...I mean who is right all of the time...

Or, you have a passion for Romo or some QB in the draft/FA that you really want to see play here and Henson is in the way.

[Doomsday101]

It was good to see Henson have a better showing in game 2 from that of game 1 in NFLE. His time in NFLE is just part of the learning process for Henson and I think he will be better because of this learning expericance

[iceberg]

I just watched the video, and I can't say I like his throwing motion. It really weirds me out. This is an exaggeration, but it almost looked like he was using a dart-throwing motion.

i think people get too worked up over throwing motions. does it get the job done and does he hit his target? i'll agree he sometimes looks like he's throwing darts out there, but i was GLAD to see that type of accuracy and speed.

[Gfunk]

I'm gonna have to catch a game of his next weekend

[Jarv]

i think people get too worked up over throwing motions. does it get the job done and does he hit his target? i'll agree he sometimes looks like he's throwing darts out there, but i was GLAD to see that type of accuracy and speed.

Darts. It used to be a good thing.

Accurate darts thrown to recievers I thought was a great compliment.

But its not good when we are talking about Henson ?

Break down all 32 teams starting QB's...All golfers swings...All pitchers motions.

I'm sure you'll see a lot of different styles.

[Doomsday101]

Darts. It used to be a good thing.

Accurate darts thrown to recievers I thought was a great compliment.

But its not good when we are talking about Henson ?

Break down all 32 teams starting QB's...All golfers swings...All pitchers motions.

I'm sure you'll see a lot of different styles.

I agree. As long as he is not trying to guild the ball throwing drats is not bad at all.

[Zaxor]

I've said it a dozen times...Henson says and does the right stuff. He didn't come to Dallas an expect to be handed a job because of his blue chip background.

He volunteered to go to NFLE.

How do ya not root for a guy like this?

Beats me it really does

[superpunk]

How do ya not root for a guy like this?

Maybe they don't notice

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/henson_032406_300.jpg

the little star on the uniform. He is kinda wearing burgundy.

For chrissake's people....he's a Dallas Cowboy. Get off your high - agenda driven - horses and root for this guy!

:bang2:

[BlueWave]

I just watched the video, and I can't say I like his throwing motion. It really weirds me out. This is an exaggeration, but it almost looked like he was using a dart-throwing motion.

Have you ever seen Phillip rivers throwing motion.


I have always found it interesting, every MLB pitcher throws the ball differently. No two are exactly alike. No one cares as long as they get people out.

In the NFL, if your delivery is not text book, immediately people want to change you delivery to match everyone elses, no matter how much success you have had and are having with that particular delivery. Kosar was almost sidearm and was very successful in the NFL. rivers is a huge prospect, and no one is messing with his 3/4 arm delivery.

People dwell on the fact that the ball comes out low, causing it to get deflected at the line. I have seen only two of his passes defelected at the line so far this season in NFLE and I'll be willing to bet Bledsoe had that many after two games as well. That is simply a misconception and certainly not a big enough problem to go to the trouble of changing Hensons motion. They tried that one time already, and I think we all remember how bad he looked in the preseason of 2005. Now he's back to his natural motion and personally I think he looks great.

[CowboyManDan]

8 games to go, still way too early to call it a success or a failure. But it's a good start and something to build on.

I think it was Phil Simms who was quoted as saying a good NFL QB has about 4 down/bad games during the 16 game season. If you believe that, then that ratio for 10 games equates to 2.5 games.

I'm enoying having some football to watch this offseason and someone to root for. No one can say he isn't working or isn't saying the right things. He isn't simply be handed anything outside that 1 turkey day start.

[Juke99]

Maybe they don't notice

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/henson_032406_300.jpg

the little star on the uniform. He is kinda wearing burgundy.

For chrissake's people....he's a Dallas Cowboy. Get off your high - agenda driven - horses and root for this guy!

:bang2:


On the nosey!

[stiletto]

I know people don't want to hear it....but the Henson project is already a bust in my mind....I'm willing to bet he's not even on this roster when the season starts unless he can qualify for the practice squad.

Despite Bledsoe's track record of durability and toughness, we still need a proven veteran back up on this roster if we are loading up for a championship run! That leaves one more space.....We cut Romo and he will be claimed off waivers instantly by another team (likely the saints), which leaves Henson as the odd man out unless he looks the other Drew (Bledsoe) in training camp!


OK -- you are a football NOOB!! It's almost like you are rooting against Henson. So stupid!! Everyone should be hoping he becomes the QB of the future. Your lover Bledsoe will only be here for another year, maybe 2 MAX. Henson has all the talent, tools, etc to make it in this league more-so than any of the other QB's we've had since Aikman. He just needs to play and you will be eating your words after this NFLE season because he will improve every week and guys like you will just look more stupid.

[Doomsday101]

I know people don't want to hear it....but the Henson project is already a bust in my mind....I'm willing to bet he's not even on this roster when the season starts unless he can qualify for the practice squad.

Despite Bledsoe's track record of durability and toughness, we still need a proven veteran back up on this roster if we are loading up for a championship run! That leaves one more space.....We cut Romo and he will be claimed off waivers instantly by another team (likely the saints), which leaves Henson as the odd man out unless he looks the other Drew (Bledsoe) in training camp!

I less convinced that an Undrafted player like Romo is the future of this club. Not saying he can't do it but I do think it is a tall order to think Romo will become the future of this club. Henson has the skill level that teams look for in a QB which is why he was always thought highly of and if he can get to the point where the speed of the game starts to slow down Henson skills will start to show itself. As for Bledsoe I'm very happy with him but I also know that he is heading towards the end of his career

[speedkilz88]

Why is it that a vet qb is being brought up. Does anyone see a good vet qb out there? Are the Cowboys talking to any vet qbs? No on both accounts. They are going with what they have and might look into a rookie to bring to minicamps. I suspect they go the Tony Romo route and sign an undrafted free agent again.

[SteveOS]

Not that it shows up in the stats or anything, but Henson could easily have 2 picks thrown had the defender not drop them, 1 in each game. Just pointing that out for those that haven't seen the games. :)

I'm pulling for Henson though, I wish him the best of luck. The Boys need a young QB w/ some experience. NFL E is experience, not at the NFL level, of course, but it's better than sitting and watching film and not seeing the field at all.

[Juke99]

Not that it shows up in the stats or anything, but Henson could easily have 2 picks thrown had the defender not drop them. Just pointing that out for those that haven't seen the games. :) 1 in each game.

I'm pulling for Henson though, I wish him the best of luck. The Boys need a young QB w/ some experience. NFL E is experience, not at the NFL level, of course, but it's better than sitting and watching film and not seeing the field at all.


Yep...but that's why those guys play on defense and not at the WR position. It happens in just about every game...balances out the good throws that bounce off a WR's hands.

And I agree...he isn't going to play for the Cowboys this year anyway...so he's got plenty of time to learn the offense. He needs this game action right now.

[SteveOS]

Yep...but that's why those guys play on defense and not at the WR position. It happens in just about every game...balances out the good throws that bounce off a WR's hands.

And I agree...he isn't going to play for the Cowboys this year anyway...so he's got plenty of time to learn the offense. He needs this game action right now.

Exactly.:)

[Juke99]

Exactly.:)


Hey...I'm just happy that I've got a football fix for the next few months!

..it's a long time before the season begins.

[SteveOS]

Hey...I'm just happy that I've got a football fix for the next few months!

..it's a long time before the season begins.

LOL, same here bro. Hell, I still miss the USFL. :)

[Juke99]

LOL, same here bro. Hell, I still miss the USFL. :)


http://www.oursportscentral.com/usfl/


I LOVED the USFL...team names were much better than the old fart NFL names.

[Hostile]

I know people don't want to hear it....but the Henson project is already a bust in my mind....I'm willing to bet he's not even on this roster when the season starts unless he can qualify for the practice squad.

Despite Bledsoe's track record of durability and toughness, we still need a proven veteran back up on this roster if we are loading up for a championship run! That leaves one more space.....We cut Romo and he will be claimed off waivers instantly by another team (likely the saints), which leaves Henson as the odd man out unless he looks the other Drew (Bledsoe) in training camp!The key words right there. I doubt the organization shares your analysis.

[tyke1doe]

Didn't Jake Delhomme play in NFLEurope?

He's why I'm encouraged by Henson's play:

1. His biggest problem was not that he didn't have talent, but that he was rusty and didn't have enough experience. This outting gives him that experience.

2. If he is an NFL-caliber quarterback, he ought to have dominating performances over inferior competition. 16 of 21 is pretty dominating (well, maybe dominating is a stretch and probably isn't the best word, but you get the point). In my opinion, as he becomes more comfortable, he should have more of these games, if, indeed, he is the future QB of the Cowboys.

3. He seems to be comfortable reading defenses nd hitting his open man, and that's very valueable if he's going to have a chance to start in the NFL.

Now what we can't predict is how that will translate to the NFL because the speed of the NFL and the disguised defensive packages will present a challenge of a different level.

But I was impressed by his performance. I haven't given up on him, and I don't think the Cowboys have either.

Bill Parcells is just grooming QBs like they did in the old days. You had your starter then you had your understudy or backup on the bench ready to come in when the starter couldn't get it done or if the starter got injured.

I don't think many posters are taking into consideration Parcells' old-school style and seem to think that because Henson isn't getting any playing time that means he's in the Cowboys' doghouse and ready to be let go.

I feel that after this year - assuming Bledsoe doesn't get injured and with Henson's game experience in NFLEurope - he will be ready to step in in the 2007 season and will be perfectly fine.

[TheHustler]

I know people don't want to hear it....but the Henson project is already a bust in my mind....\

What? Bledsoe4MVP doesn't like another QB on the roster? Nooooooo. Reeeeally?

[Galian Beast]

It is hilarious to hear about "fans" who say we should have signed Jake Delhomme. They don't even know his history.

The dude went undrafted, and was sent to NFL Europe to backup Kurt Warner. He was the 3rd string QB for New Orleans. He was then sent BACK to NFL Europe AGAIN.

In 5 years with the Saints he played 6 games, starting only two games.

He lead the NFC in preseson passing rating in 2002 and 2001. But to say... We should have picked him up is ridiculous considering the people who are calling Henson a bust...

Jake Delhomme is currently 31 years old. And this will be his ninth season in the NFL.

You're judging a quarterback WAY too quickly.

[RCowboyFan]

It is hilarious to hear about "fans" who say we should have signed Jake Delhomme. They don't even know his history.

The dude went undrafted, and was sent to NFL Europe to backup Kurt Warner. He was the 3rd string QB for New Orleans. He was then sent BACK to NFL Europe AGAIN.

In 5 years with the Saints he played 6 games, starting only two games.

He lead the NFC in preseson passing rating in 2002 and 2001. But to say... We should have picked him up is ridiculous considering the people who are calling Henson a bust...

Jake Delhomme is currently 31 years old. And this will be his ninth season in the NFL.

You're judging a quarterback WAY too quickly.

And his first start was against Cowboys, which he won :mad: :D

And I had that unfortunate pleasure of watching that game in the stadium, my first game in the stadium to watch cowboys. And that was back in 1999 too.

[Galian Beast]

Another funny fact is that Kurt Warner NEVER would have started had (much like Brady and Bledsoe) Trent Green never been injured. Kurt Warner wasn't even the 2nd quarterback on the depth chart. Paul Justin was. He just happened to be injured as well.

ANOTHER funny fact. ST. Louis' Marc Bulger also didn't have a star studded beginning.

He was a 6th round draft pick by the Saints no less in 2000. Gut cut in Training camp, and joined in on going quarterback carousel within the nfc. He spent two weeks on Atlanta's practice squad, then joined St. Louis' practice squad. He spent his first season with the Rams as an inactive 3rd quarterback.

Bulger would never have become a starter had Warner not been injured (like Trent Green before him). Dude probably would have been sent to NFL Europe sooner or later.

Matt Hasslebeck - 6th round draft pick in 1998 by the packers, backed up Brett Favre. Traded to the seahawks in 2001.

Mark Brunell - Drafted in the 5th round by Green Bay in 1993. Backed up Brett Favre... Didn't play in 1993, saw limited action in 94. The Jaguars got him in 95. quickly became a pro bowler.

Trent Green - drafted in the 8th round in 1993 by the chargers, didn't play a single game until 1997 with the redskins, became the redskins starter in 1998. Then saw limited playing time with the Rams. Before going to Kansas City. Where he has been a pro bowl quality qb since 2002.

Brad Johnson - Drafted in 1992 by the Vikings in the 9th round, didn't play a single game until his 3rd year, where he played 4 games, played 5 games is his 4th year. Then started 8 games in his 5th year.

QBs aren't all Peyton Mannings...

[Bledsoe4MVP]

OK -- you are a football NOOB!! It's almost like you are rooting against Henson. So stupid!! Everyone should be hoping he becomes the QB of the future. Your lover Bledsoe will only be here for another year, maybe 2 MAX. Henson has all the talent, tools, etc to make it in this league more-so than any of the other QB's we've had since Aikman. He just needs to play and you will be eating your words after this NFLE season because he will improve every week and guys like you will just look more stupid.

I'm not against Henson, I just don't think he has 'it'. I understand Bledsoe isn't the long term answer, but as of right now neither are Romo or Henson. Many QB's have had the talent and tools to make it in this league....Rick Mirer, Akili Smith, Ryan Leif, Tim Couch, etc etc....and guess what they were former 1st round picks....top 10 picks!

Face it the Henson experiement is over! :mad:

[Bledsoe4MVP]

The key words right there. I doubt the organization shares your analysis.

Remember that when Henson is cut this august...I might not work for ESPN, but my football intuition is pretty keen none the less. There's a reason Henson is in NFL Europe and right now he's fighting for his survival!

[superpunk]

Face it the Henson experiement is over! :mad:

It's just begun.

Go cheer for the Patriots, if you want to pass judgement on our players already. If you haven't noticed, when Henson suits up, he wears the star. Call me crazy, but I automatically pull for him. So, please, back to Boston with you.

[BigDFan5]

Remember that when Henson is cut this august...I might not work for ESPN, but my football intuition is pretty keen none the less. There's a reason Henson is in NFL Europe and right now he's fighting for his survival!


The reason he is in NFLE is because he asked to go over there and get some live game experience

[Bledsoe4MVP]

It's just begun.

Go cheer for the Patriots, if you want to pass judgement on our players already. If you haven't noticed, when Henson suits up, he wears the star. Call me crazy, but I automatically pull for him. So, please, back to Boston with you.

Don't be a hater....what does assessing the Henson situation have to do with being a cowboys fan? I don't have to approve of every player on this rosters...In fact there are several others I have in my crosshairs that are notice and better step it up! I don't think Henson is the long term answer after Bledsoe is gone and I won't change my opinion until he shows me something!

Also I'm not from boston and I don't like the patriots....even when Drew played for them so quit assuming I'm just a mindless 'Drewpie' :mad:

[Doomsday101]

I'm not against Henson, I just don't think he has 'it'. I understand Bledsoe isn't the long term answer, but as of right now neither are Romo or Henson. Many QB's have had the talent and tools to make it in this league....Rick Mirer, Akili Smith, Ryan Leif, Tim Couch, etc etc....and guess what they were former 1st round picks....top 10 picks!

Face it the Henson experiement is over! :mad:

I don't think Dallas views Henson experiement to be over only just starting. This will be his 3rd season coming up and his contract is such that it allowed Dallas to give Henson time to adjust to the game.

[superpunk]

Don't be a hater....what does assessing the Henson situation have to do with being a cowboys fan? I don't have to approve of every player on this rosters...In fact there are several others I have in my crosshairs that are notice and better step it up! I don't think Henson is the long term answer after Bledsoe is gone and I won't change my opinion until he shows me something!

So, you'll just make wild claims like he'll get cut this summer, so you can gloat if it happens, and push your stupid agenda on the rest of us until then? Sorry, I root for ALL Cowboys players, no matter how much they've disappointed so far. Everyone can always turn it around.

[Juke99]

Don't be a hater....what does assessing the Henson situation have to do with being a cowboys fan? I don't have to approve of every player on this rosters...In fact there are several others I have in my crosshairs that are notice and better step it up! I don't think Henson is the long term answer after Bledsoe is gone and I won't change my opinion until he shows me something!

Also I'm not from boston and I don't like the patriots....even when Drew played for them so quit assuming I'm just a mindless 'Drewpie' :mad:


So, you see nothing positive in his performance, which just happened to be only his 11th start since high school???...and you've already classified him as a "bust"

Yep...like I said earlier, it's this kind of thinking that had Dewey elected over Truman.

And...you'll root for Owens, in fact, you'll trumpet his arrival as you sig...but a guy who's done all the right things..said all the right things..and gone to NFLE to better his game, you won't root for.

Yep...makes perfect sense to me..

[Bledsoe4MVP]

So, you'll just make wild claims like he'll get cut this summer, so you can gloat if it happens, and push your stupid agenda on the rest of us until then? Sorry, I root for ALL Cowboys players, no matter how much they've disappointed so far. Everyone can always turn it around.

Why would I gloat if Henson is cut? I would be dissappointed by it but would have to move on, I hope he turns it around I just don't see it happening sorry.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

So, you see nothing positive in his performance, which just happened to be only his 11th start since high school???...and you've already classified him as a "bust"

Yep...like I said earlier, it's this kind of thinking that had Dewey elected over Truman.

And...you'll root for Owens, in fact, you'll trumpet his arrival as you sig...but a guy who's done all the right things..said all the right things..and gone to NFLE to better his game, you won't root for.

Yep...makes perfect sense to me..

:horse:

Look I'm sorry if you guys are upset over my opinion on the matter, perhaps deep down you share my sentiments......I will try to keep an open mind but I just don't see him panning out. I'm also concerned over the things I've heard and read about him (specifically his NFL Europe journals)....it seems that Henson might be a bit immature, and that is a fatal flaw as a starting NFL QB....just ask Ryan Leif! :(

Yes I'm rooting for TO because he's a proven veteran and I believe he's finally cleaned up his act. So comparing him to an unknown like Henson don't make much sense.

[RCowboyFan]

:horse:

Look I'm sorry if you guys are upset over my opinion on the matter, perhaps deep down you share my sentiments......I will try to keep an open mind but I just don't see him panning out. I'm also concerned over the things I've heard and read about him (specifically his NFL Europe journals)....it seems that Henson might be a bit immature, and that is a fatal flaw as a starting NFL QB....just ask Ryan Leif! :(

Yes I'm rooting for TO because he's a proven veteran and I believe he's finally cleaned up his act. So comparing him to an unknown like Henson don't make much sense.

:lmao2: :lmao: :laugh2:

Damn that was funny. Here is a guy who posts on BBS and professes Bledsoe love and Bledsoe for MVP crap down everyone's throat. And he is talking about someone else being immature. :eek: :D

[iceberg]

Also I'm not from boston and I don't like the patriots....even when Drew played for them so quit assuming I'm just a mindless 'Drewpie' :mad:

you are what you are man. and when you got dwarf-drew as your selfproclaimed worhship idol, it happens to speak volumes for who's *fan* you really are.

[ConcordCowboy]

Henson had a Great game Saturday...I really want to see him do it again in his next game!

GO HENSON!:star:

[ABQCOWBOY]

:horse:

Look I'm sorry if you guys are upset over my opinion on the matter, perhaps deep down you share my sentiments......I will try to keep an open mind but I just don't see him panning out. I'm also concerned over the things I've heard and read about him (specifically his NFL Europe journals)....it seems that Henson might be a bit immature, and that is a fatal flaw as a starting NFL QB....just ask Ryan Leif! :(

Yes I'm rooting for TO because he's a proven veteran and I believe he's finally cleaned up his act. So comparing him to an unknown like Henson don't make much sense.

I'm curious, what would lead you to believe that Henson is immature?

Also, Ryan Leaf is not the best example you can use for this IMO. While it is true that Leaf was immature, that is not the reason he's out of football IMO. Leaf sustained an injury that was career ending. The fact that surgery couln't correct it only allowed him to hang around longer then he probably should have but basically, his career was over the minute he injured his wrist.

[gbrittain]

Another funny fact is that Kurt Warner NEVER would have started had (much like Brady and Bledsoe) Trent Green never been injured. Kurt Warner wasn't even the 2nd quarterback on the depth chart. Paul Justin was. He just happened to be injured as well.

ANOTHER funny fact. ST. Louis' Marc Bulger also didn't have a star studded beginning.

He was a 6th round draft pick by the Saints no less in 2000. Gut cut in Training camp, and joined in on going quarterback carousel within the nfc. He spent two weeks on Atlanta's practice squad, then joined St. Louis' practice squad. He spent his first season with the Rams as an inactive 3rd quarterback.

Bulger would never have become a starter had Warner not been injured (like Trent Green before him). Dude probably would have been sent to NFL Europe sooner or later.

Matt Hasslebeck - 6th round draft pick in 1998 by the packers, backed up Brett Favre. Traded to the seahawks in 2001.

Mark Brunell - Drafted in the 5th round by Green Bay in 1993. Backed up Brett Favre... Didn't play in 1993, saw limited action in 94. The Jaguars got him in 95. quickly became a pro bowler.

Trent Green - drafted in the 8th round in 1993 by the chargers, didn't play a single game until 1997 with the redskins, became the redskins starter in 1998. Then saw limited playing time with the Rams. Before going to Kansas City. Where he has been a pro bowl quality qb since 2002.

Brad Johnson - Drafted in 1992 by the Vikings in the 9th round, didn't play a single game until his 3rd year, where he played 4 games, played 5 games is his 4th year. Then started 8 games in his 5th year.

QBs aren't all Peyton Mannings...

Very interesting and good post.

I posted something similiar to this a while back.

For example Ben R was not scheduled to play his rookie year. Tommy Maddox was. Tommy Maddox went down with an injury and all Ben R does is goes out wins every game as a starter other than the AFC championship game.

Tom Brady stuck behind Drew Bledsoe. Drew Bledsoe gets hurt and the rest is history. Kurt Warner ditto.

Sometimes a player has to see the field before a coach knows what he has. Everything can not always be determined in the offseason and preseason.

[RCowboyFan]

Very interesting and good post.

I posted something similiar to this a while back.

For example Ben R was not scheduled to play his rookie year. Tommy Maddox was. Tommy Maddox went down with an injury and all Ben R does is goes out wins every game as a starter other than the AFC championship game.

Tom Brady stuck behind Drew Bledsoe. Drew Bledsoe gets hurt and the rest is history. Kurt Warner ditto.

Sometimes a player has to see the field before a coach knows what he has. Everything can not always be determined in the offseason and preseason.

Sometimes coach might think he as something, but practice/scrimmage is quite different than actual Sunday NFL games. Thats why most coaches are leary of letting Young players play.

Heck, Carson Palmer,didn't look so hot when he did start after year sitting on the bench did he? Its actually co-incidence, that it seems like both Palmer and Ben credit Cowboys game that made them believe in themselves. Ben because he got Steelers to come from behind on the road, till then he was just about managing the game. Palmer was struggling mightly till Cowboys game his second year. Heck I know plenty of people were blaming Bengals for handing the starting job to Carson Palmer instead of letting him win the job.

Come Third year, Carson is now the hottest thing after Peyton, as far as pure throwing ability is concerned. Maybe next it will be Eli Manning, but even after two years, Eli remains a question mark. And Erni Eccorsi apparently told Kerry Collins that Eli was the best QB prospect he saw in 20 years, as to why he was going to go with Eli vs Collins. Well, I guess he wasn't or uptill now that doesn't seem to be remotely the case.

[Juke99]

:horse:

Look I'm sorry if you guys are upset over my opinion on the matter, perhaps deep down you share my sentiments......I will try to keep an open mind but I just don't see him panning out. I'm also concerned over the things I've heard and read about him (specifically his NFL Europe journals)....it seems that Henson might be a bit immature, and that is a fatal flaw as a starting NFL QB....just ask Ryan Leif! :(

Yes I'm rooting for TO because he's a proven veteran and I believe he's finally cleaned up his act. So comparing him to an unknown like Henson don't make much sense.

Listen, Nors Lite..

That's funny..Henson is immature...but you'll put Owens name in your sig.

And Owens has "cleaned up his act" based on what? Because he spoke the words? T

Never mind..

Hellloooooo wall....

[fiveandcounting]

Chad Hutchinson's NFL Europe rating was 80.1

maybe, but he finished next to last among all the nfle qb's that season
for what its worth

[Hostile]

Remember that when Henson is cut this august...I might not work for ESPN, but my football intuition is pretty keen none the less. There's a reason Henson is in NFL Europe and right now he's fighting for his survival!No, the reason he is there is because he went to the organization and said IF they thought it would help his development he'd do whatever it takes.

Keen intuition? Forgive me for not being too wowed by your football intuition to this point. I've seen nothing amazing other than a high amount of syrup love for one player.

[Bob Sacamano]

How do ya not root for a guy like this?

AGENDA

wow, how many times have you had that answer given to you after the countless times you've asked that very same question? :laugh2:

[Bob Sacamano]

Darts. It used to be a good thing.

Accurate darts thrown to recievers I thought was a great compliment.

But its not good when we are talking about Henson ?

Break down all 32 teams starting QB's...All golfers swings...All pitchers motions.

I'm sure you'll see a lot of different styles.

there's a reason QBs have different styles of throwing motions...comfort level, so why knock a guy's comfort level? I just don't get it Jarv

[Bob Sacamano]

It is hilarious to hear about "fans" who say we should have signed Jake Delhomme. They don't even know his history.

The dude went undrafted, and was sent to NFL Europe to backup Kurt Warner. He was the 3rd string QB for New Orleans. He was then sent BACK to NFL Europe AGAIN.

In 5 years with the Saints he played 6 games, starting only two games.

He lead the NFC in preseson passing rating in 2002 and 2001. But to say... We should have picked him up is ridiculous considering the people who are calling Henson a bust...

Jake Delhomme is currently 31 years old. And this will be his ninth season in the NFL.

You're judging a quarterback WAY too quickly.

:hammer:

and yet people still think that Henson will show them the future this spring

[Bob Sacamano]

And his first start was against Cowboys, which he won :mad: :D

And I had that unfortunate pleasure of watching that game in the stadium, my first game in the stadium to watch cowboys. And that was back in 1999 too.

I remember that game, Christmas Day, oh the Campo years :bang2:

[Bob Sacamano]

Another funny fact is that Kurt Warner NEVER would have started had (much like Brady and Bledsoe) Trent Green never been injured. Kurt Warner wasn't even the 2nd quarterback on the depth chart. Paul Justin was. He just happened to be injured as well.

ANOTHER funny fact. ST. Louis' Marc Bulger also didn't have a star studded beginning.

He was a 6th round draft pick by the Saints no less in 2000. Gut cut in Training camp, and joined in on going quarterback carousel within the nfc. He spent two weeks on Atlanta's practice squad, then joined St. Louis' practice squad. He spent his first season with the Rams as an inactive 3rd quarterback.

Bulger would never have become a starter had Warner not been injured (like Trent Green before him). Dude probably would have been sent to NFL Europe sooner or later.

Matt Hasslebeck - 6th round draft pick in 1998 by the packers, backed up Brett Favre. Traded to the seahawks in 2001.

Mark Brunell - Drafted in the 5th round by Green Bay in 1993. Backed up Brett Favre... Didn't play in 1993, saw limited action in 94. The Jaguars got him in 95. quickly became a pro bowler.

Trent Green - drafted in the 8th round in 1993 by the chargers, didn't play a single game until 1997 with the redskins, became the redskins starter in 1998. Then saw limited playing time with the Rams. Before going to Kansas City. Where he has been a pro bowl quality qb since 2002.

Brad Johnson - Drafted in 1992 by the Vikings in the 9th round, didn't play a single game until his 3rd year, where he played 4 games, played 5 games is his 4th year. Then started 8 games in his 5th year.

QBs aren't all Peyton Mannings...

you're on a roll dude :bow:

[Bob Sacamano]

it seems that Henson might be a bit immature, and that is a fatal flaw as a starting NFL QB

:jerk: I don't get that impression at all, seems he's saying all the right things, that's definately maturity, even if he doesn't mean them or not, of which I believe he does mean it

[Bob Sacamano]

Sometimes a player has to see the field before a coach knows what he has. Everything can not always be determined in the offseason and preseason.

*ding* *ding* like I've continuously stated, it's not where you're from, it's how you're developed in the NFL