The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington

[Gryphon]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.

The Dolphins, Bengals, Cowboys, Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks, and Raiders are said to have shown interest. Wow. That's seven teams willing to give Harrington another chance.

Mar. 29 - 9:51 am et
Source: Detroit News
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[cleverusername]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.

The Dolphins, Bengals, Cowboys, Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks, and Raiders are said to have shown interest. Wow. That's seven teams willing to give Harrington another chance.

Mar. 29 - 9:51 am et
Source: Detroit News


No Thanks, I'll Pass.

[theogt]

I'd give him another chance. Not for a third, though. That's what they're asking for, but they'll settle for a fourth.

[Cbz40]

Not a first day pick .....maybe a 8th rd pick.:D

We don't have a fourth rd pick this year....we gave our 4th to Philly for a draft pick which we used for Canty.

[littlewebs]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.

Good luck with that Detroit...

[AbeBeta]

I'd give him another chance. Not for a third, though. That's what they're asking for, but they'll settle for a fourth.

he isn't worth a 4th. the best they can hope for is a 6th that conditionally becomes something better if he doesn't suck.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.

The Dolphins, Bengals, Cowboys, Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks, and Raiders are said to have shown interest. Wow. That's seven teams willing to give Harrington another chance.

Mar. 29 - 9:51 am et
Source: Detroit News

He's not likely worth a 1st or 2nd, but I could see a team coughing up a 3rd rounder.

Personally I think we should just trade Henson for him straight up, he was a 3rd rounder and we'd be lucky to get a player that has shown something like Harrington in return.

[Cajuncowboy]

Pass! I would give a 5th, maybe a 4th. But nothing more.

[dragon_mikal]

Uh...we traded away a 3rd for Henson.

Harrington is worth more than Henson.

[Manster54]

He's not likely worth a 1st or 2nd, but I could see a team coughing up a 3rd rounder.

Personally I think we should just trade Henson for him straight up, he was a 3rd rounder and we'd be lucky to get a player that has shown something like Harrington in return.

Henson would be a popular choice in Michigan.

[cleverusername]

He's not likely worth a 1st or 2nd, but I could see a team coughing up a 3rd rounder.

Personally I think we should just trade Henson for him straight up, he was a 3rd rounder and we'd be lucky to get a player that has shown something like Harrington in return.

In four years as a starter he hasn't shown much.

[Rude]

Uh...we traded away a 3rd for Henson.

Harrington is worth more than Henson.

TY! I dont get how Harrington isnt worth a 4th or a first day pick but henson got a 3rd and we think we can trade romo for a 3rd or 4th?????

[TheHustler]

Uh...we traded away a 3rd for Henson.

Harrington is worth more than Henson.

Why's that? Harrington is proven? Nope. Harrington is a leader? Nope. Harrington has progressed in the last 3 years? Nope.

Harrington couldn't succeed under a coach that made JEFF GARCIA a Pro Bowler.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Henson would be a popular choice in Michigan.

Precisely....it would out for both teams....we would get a reliable veteran back up and they would get a raw QB to develop.:cool:

[Bledsoe4MVP]

In four years as a starter he hasn't shown much.

He has put up servicable numbers the last two seasons compared to 2002 and 2003 when he looked like a true bust.....I think we should make a run at him!

[dragon_mikal]

Why's that? Harrington is proven? Nope. Harrington is a leader? Nope. Harrington has progressed in the last 3 years? Nope.



Nah...he's worth more because he has actually won a football game.

If Harrington isn't proven then what is Henson? Spin it however you want, Harrington's worth is more than Henson's.

[Rush 2112]

They're dreaming.

The market for Harrington was set with Ramsey, not Culpepper.

[theogt]

he isn't worth a 4th. the best they can hope for is a 6th that conditionally becomes something better if he doesn't suck.4th conditional to a 3rd. Mark it down.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

They're dreaming.

The market for Harrington was set with Ramsey, not Culpepper.

He's improved a lot over the last 2 years, and he's played on what might be the worst franchise in the NFL his entire career....with a change of scenary this kid could be the next Bledsoe!

Don't be surprised if a willing suitor gives up a 3rd rounder or better to acquire him!

[alsmith]

:star: Harrington is worth a 4th when he gets away from the lions and the system and bad WR's, he might just be a very good QB...:star:

[Zippy Speedster]

We don't have a fourth so I guess it would take our third, I'd still do it. He's better then anything we have on the bench, if this is a true "run" year then we need insurance behind Bledsoe incase he goes down, a third is not too high imo. We could land gold or at very least we go out of this knowing we were atleast taking steps to insure our season.

[jrumann59]

All Harrington will ever be is Gus Ferotte, some that is servicable as a QB but you would be insane to build your team around him.

[theogt]

All Harrington will ever be is Gus Ferotte, some that is servicable as a QB but you would be insane to build your team around him.Or he could be a Steve Young. Well, his stats are better than Young's over the first four years at least.

[RealCowboyfan]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.

The Dolphins, Bengals, Cowboys, Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks, and Raiders are said to have shown interest. Wow. That's seven teams willing to give Harrington another chance.

Mar. 29 - 9:51 am et
Source: Detroit News
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :blind:

This has got to be a joke... I know Cowboys aren't going to give them a first day pick for a Quarterback that's not even proven..

[Rumor]

Nah...he's worth more because he has actually won a football game.

If Harrington isn't proven then what is Henson? Spin it however you want, Harrington's worth is more than Henson's.


I agree with you, but I will still pass...Maybe a 5th....which is not gonna happen so who cares...

[Bledsoe4MVP]

All Harrington will ever be is Gus Ferotte, some that is servicable as a QB but you would be insane to build your team around him.

who said we are building the team around him?

Bledsoe is the man the next 2-3 years as long as he's healthy and productive......Harrington is nothing more than a viable backup option, whether or not he can be the #1 guy in dallas won't be decided for a couple of years. But at least the young gunslinger can sit behind a veteran gunslinger and learn from the best! :bow:

[burntricersx]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :blind:

This has got to be a joke... I know Cowboys aren't going to give them a first day pick for a Quarterback that's not even proven..

You do know that we gave up a 3rd round pick for unproven Drew Henson right?

And Harrington never had a solid o-line...we of all people should know what a shaky o-line does to a QB.

[TooStupid]

Forget Harrington, Why not bring in McNair... As a vet he's more qualified to backup Bledsoe while Henson continually develops.

[RealCowboyfan]

You do know that we gave up a 3rd round pick for unproven Drew Henson right?

And Harrington never had a solid o-line...we of all people should know what a shaky o-line does to a QB.
Good point:bow:

[theogt]

Forget Harrington, Why not bring in McNair... As a vet he's more qualified to backup Bledsoe while Henson continually develops.1. McNair has no upside AT ALL other than a 1-2 year backup. He won't do that. Harrington on the other hand is young and could be a possible long-term starter.
2. Give up on Henson. It's either he lights it up in NFLE or he's out.

[SultanOfSix]

Is it possible to trade Nors for a first day pick?

[TooStupid]

1. McNair has no upside AT ALL other than a 1-2 year backup. He won't do that. Harrington on the other hand is young and could be a possible long-term starter.
2. Give up on Henson. It's either he lights it up in NFLE or he's out.
The upside for McNair is another chance at the Superbowl it's either that for him or Baltimore... Where would you go? Sure it's not a move for the future, but I'm thinking about right now.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Forget Harrington, Why not bring in McNair... As a vet he's more qualified to backup Bledsoe while Henson continually develops.

McNair probably still believes he's a starter....I'd love to have him, but it would likely conflict with Bledsoe's interests.

I see Baltimore as a much better suitor given his history with that team when the titans and ravens used to be bitter division rivals. Also Brian Billick has always admired McNair's gritty play, might work since Boller is still pretty much a bust. ;)

[CrazyCowboy]

Don't do it PLEASE!

[zrinkill]

“Trust me, this guy is going to be a damn good quarterback. He reminds me a little of Brett Favre. He doesn’t have to set his feet when he slings it to get the ball where it needs to go.”
—Cowboys safety Darren Woodson

hmmmmmm

[theogt]

“Trust me, this guy is going to be a damn good quarterback. He reminds me a little of Brett Favre. He doesn’t have to set his feet when he slings it to get the ball where it needs to go.”
—Cowboys safety Darren Woodson

hmmmmmmWho is that referring to and what's the date?

[zrinkill]

Joey Harrington .... a few years ago.

[jbsg02]

i wouldnt trade a 7th for that contract

[BlueStar II]

If we were to give up a pick for Harrington, it wouldn't be anything more than a 7th as far as I'm concerned, or pass on him altogether.

[theogt]

i wouldnt trade a 7th for that contractThe contract would be reworked.

[BadKarma]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.

The Dolphins, Bengals, Cowboys, Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks, and Raiders are said to have shown interest. Wow. That's seven teams willing to give Harrington another chance.

Mar. 29 - 9:51 am et
Source: Detroit News
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Pfffttt...for a first day pick, they can keep Harrington.

[stasheroo]

Sounds like this may drag on for a while...............:zzz:

[chinch]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.
hmm.... wasn't philly hoping for something similar for TO.

etc, etc, etc.

LOL

[theogt]

hmm.... wasn't philly hoping for something similar for TO.

etc, etc, etc.

LOLcompletely different situation.

[scottsp]

Nothing wrong with asking. It's still a giggle.

[dbair1967]

Uh...we traded away a 3rd for Henson.

Harrington is worth more than Henson.

what games have you been watching?

memo to you, he has no value because everyone knows he's gonna get cut by June 15th anyway...unless somebody intends to make him a starter THIS yr, its unlikely IMO they'll get anything other than a late rd pick or a pick in the mid rounds next yr for him

David

[dbair1967]

Or he could be a Steve Young. Well, his stats are better than Young's over the first four years at least.

he wont ever be Steve Young because he doesnt have Young's passing ability or athletic skills as a runner

David

[DallasInDC]

The Lions are asking for a first-day pick for Joey Harrington.

The Dolphins, Bengals, Cowboys, Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks, and Raiders are said to have shown interest. Wow. That's seven teams willing to give Harrington another chance.

Mar. 29 - 9:51 am et
Source: Detroit News
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Without reading the rest of the posts inthisthread I would have to say emphatically HELL NO!!!! I could see a 6th or 7th with a conditional 2007 pick since Harrington is a career backup at best. I would much rather go with what we have and try to develop them instead.

DON'T DO IT JERRAH!!!!

[DLCassidy]

what games have you been watching?

memo to you, he has no value because everyone knows he's gonna get cut by June 15th anyway...unless somebody intends to make him a starter THIS yr, its unlikely IMO they'll get anything other than a late rd pick or a pick in the mid rounds next yr for him

David

I keep reading these Harrington threads and the idea that we might well flush a 1st day pick on him is very depressing.

[theogt]

he wont ever be Steve Young because he doesnt have Young's passing ability or athletic skills as a runner

DavidThe same could be said about Steven Young after his first four years.

[dbair1967]

The same could be said about Steven Young after his first four years.

not if you watched him it wouldnt

there's no comparison between the pure passing ability Steve Young had and what Joey Harrington's is now...none

David

[Jack-Reacher]

If the cowboys can swing this, it will be a 3-way trade with Romo going to NO , Harrington coming to Dallas and Detroit recieving a 3rd round pick from NO. I would be all for that happening.

I watched Harrington in College and he has the skills, he played with a terrible team in Detroit and then never had a chance to gain his confidence once Mooch came in. I think he would be a great fit behind bledsoe.

[big dog cowboy]

I keep reading these Harrington threads and the idea that we might well flush a 1st day pick on him is very depressing.
In that case I have great news! It simply isn't going to happen. Don't worry, be happy!

[Bledsoe4MVP]

In that case I have great news! It simply isn't going to happen. Don't worry, be happy!

Don't be so sure....if Jerry has his eye on Harrington, anything is possible. He did shell out quite a bit for the TO show. ;)

[DefendeR]

An objective question about Harrington to Cowboys fans:
I lived in Michigan from 1998-2003.
I have seen what the Lions organization can do to a player.
When you are surrounded by a culture of losing,losing becomes your style.
I have seen Harrington when he was in Oregon,Bowl games and with Detroit.
His first start as a Lion was a loss to Green Baywhen his "receiver",Mickael Ricks dropped a sure fire TD as time expired back in 2002.
Detroit had at the time the brick hand services of Ricks,Az-Hakim and Bill Shroeder as the receiver corps.
They led the league in DROPPED PASSES.
Next year,they added Charles Rogers....do I need to elaborate on this underachiever?
In 2004,they added Roy "counterfeit" Williams.
See Charles Rogers,and add more injuries.
To make the long story short,Detroit ruined Harrington.
This is the same organization that saw Barry Sansers quit on them and fly to England!
I'd give Harrington a second chance.The talent is there.
He is DEFINITELY better than what we have after Bledsoe.
More proven than Henson and Romo.
We gave a 3rd for Henson.
Think about it.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

An objective question about Harrington to Cowboys fans:
I lived in Michigan from 1998-2003.
I have seen what the Lions organization can do to a player.
When you are surrounded by a culture of losing,losing becomes your style.
I have seen Harrington when he was in Oregon,Bowl games and with Detroit.
His first start as a Lion was a loss to Green Baywhen his "receiver",Mickael Ricks dropped a sure fire TD as time expired back in 2002.
Detroit had at the time the brick hand services of Ricks,Az-Hakim and Bill Shroeder as the receiver corps.
They led the league in DROPPED PASSES.
Next year,they added Charles Rogers....do I need to elaborate on this underachiever?
In 2004,they added Roy "counterfeit" Williams.
See Charles Rogers,and add more injuries.
To make the long story short,Detroit ruined Harrington.
This is the same organization that saw Barry Sansers quit on them and fly to England!
I'd give Harrington a second chance.The talent is there.
He is DEFINITELY better than what we have after Bledsoe.
More proven than Henson and Romo.
We gave a 3rd for Henson.
Think about it.

Try argueing these FACTS with the Henson homers.....they will think you are a troll or one of nors aliases. :laugh2: :laugh1:

[Justis]

1. McNair has no upside AT ALL other than a 1-2 year backup. He won't do that. Harrington on the other hand is young and could be a possible long-term starter.
2. Give up on Henson. It's either he lights it up in NFLE or he's out.Right now I would rather have Henson than McNair or Harrington.

[Hostile]

Try argueing these FACTS with the Henson homers.....they will think you are a troll or one of nors aliases.That's a redundant statement.

[big dog cowboy]

Try argueing these FACTS with the Henson homers.....they will think you are a troll or one of nors aliases.
I think he presents some valid points. But to give up a day one pick is pushing it.

[Jarv]

An objective question about Harrington to Cowboys fans:
I lived in Michigan from 1998-2003.
I have seen what the Lions organization can do to a player.
When you are surrounded by a culture of losing,losing becomes your style.
I have seen Harrington when he was in Oregon,Bowl games and with Detroit.
His first start as a Lion was a loss to Green Baywhen his "receiver",Mickael Ricks dropped a sure fire TD as time expired back in 2002.
Detroit had at the time the brick hand services of Ricks,Az-Hakim and Bill Shroeder as the receiver corps.
They led the league in DROPPED PASSES.
Next year,they added Charles Rogers....do I need to elaborate on this underachiever?
In 2004,they added Roy "counterfeit" Williams.
See Charles Rogers,and add more injuries.
To make the long story short,Detroit ruined Harrington.
This is the same organization that saw Barry Sansers quit on them and fly to England!
I'd give Harrington a second chance.The talent is there.
He is DEFINITELY better than what we have after Bledsoe.
More proven than Henson and Romo.
We gave a 3rd for Henson.
Think about it.

Well I'm sure you are more qualified than I to talk about Joey. I haven't seen much of him at all outside of when the Boys have played Detroit.

Since we have 2 backups where 1...never has thrown and NFL pass and 2...has limitted playing time. I wouldn't mind checking him out.

Since I don't see Bledsoe as our future and this is his last year here. Are you thinking Joey as a backup or potentail future starter for us ?

[the kid 05]

Why's that? Harrington is proven? Nope. Harrington is a leader? Nope. Harrington has progressed in the last 3 years? Nope.

Harrington couldn't succeed under a coach that made JEFF GARCIA a Pro Bowler. jeff garcia had terrell..........

[Rumor]

They wont get it...

[Rumor]

or they shouldnt...

[Rumor]

I think he would be a better back up then henson or romo and only because he has experience...thats all...I think Henson has potential but for this year joey has the experience...

[zack]

Uh...we traded away a 3rd for Henson.

Harrington is worth more than Henson.


Dream on...Harrington isn't better than Patrick Ramsey. He got a 6th round. He sucks and has zero confidence.

[Aikmaniac]

Save the pick and if Jerry/BP are looking for a QB, pick Charlie Whitehurst in the 3rd/4th