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CaptainAmerica
03-30-2006, 03:12 PM
...SIAP, but I didn't see it. Here is an interesting article from Fox Sports.
Note the last paragraph...
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Holmgren Weighing His Options

John Czarnecki / FOXSports.com
Posted: 22 hours ago



ORLANDO - Mike Holmgren made it very clear that he doesn't know what his future holds in Seattle. Contractually, this is his last season as the Seahawks head coach and he said Wednesday morning that in the next three weeks he hopes to make a decision on whether to sign an extension or possibly coach one last season and then become an unrestricted free agent.

"My own ego says that I would like another crack at being a general manager," Holmgren said. "That's something I have been thinking about. We came to Seattle with that and it wasn't quite like it was going to be. To leave Seattle for just another coaching job, I wouldn't do that. I just want to make sure what I want and I certainly want to be fair to Paul (Allen, owner of the Seahawks). I've asked them to give me some time on this."
Holmgren lost his GM title with the Seahawks, who placed Tim Ruskell in that position this past season. Ruskell and Holmgren's Green Bay friend, Mike Reinfeldt, handle the football and contractual affairs of the Seahawks. During the season, the relationship was a solid one. But one or both of those men made a major mistake by not placing the franchise tag on All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson, who was lost to the Minnesota Vikings because of a clause that dictated that the player must become the highest-paid player on Seattle's team, a distinction held by left tackle Walter Jones.

"We probably should have placed the franchise tag on him," Holmgren said. "But I was not involved in the negotiations. We thought putting the transition tag on him would put us in a position to sign him to a long-term contract. But it blew up on us. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we would lose him. Steve always made it clear to me he liked Seattle."

But the Seahawks were outflanked by Hutchinson's agent, Tom Condon, who came up with the unique clause and the contract's language was approved by the NFL's special master. Basically, had Seattle matched Minnesota's deal, the Seahawks would have been forced to guarantee Hutchinson his entire $49 million contract. It was a maneuver that Condon, Hutchinson and the Vikings knew was financially impossible for Seattle to accomplish.


Seattle responded days later by signing Vikings receiver Nate Burleson to a long-term contract, invoking wild poison pill clauses that basically ensured that Minnesota couldn't match its offer.

"That was very distasteful to me, to retaliate so to speak like that (against the Vikings)," Holmgren said. "I do believe the commissioner should look into these kind of clauses. We work so hard on trying to gain labor peace and a new collective bargaining agreement and then we as clubs allow agents to get cute and circumvent it. On the playing field there are rules and there are unwritten rules about how the game should be played in the spirit and the fairness of it all. It doesn't make sense to me that we had to lose such a fine football player this way. I was surprised by the ruling."

But back to his future, Holmgren said he doesn't necessarily have "it square in my own mind" what exactly he wants to do.

He plans to talk it out with his wife, Kathy, and discuss his options. The NFL's highest-paid coach mentioned returning to teaching ("I know it doesn't pay well, but I've saved some money") or possibly becoming more involved in one of his daughters' Christian colleges in the Chicago area. Emily, one of Holmgren's four daughters, is married to a minister.

Holmgren will be 58 in June and he said his wife had hoped that he would have won Super Bowl XL and then retired. "She wanted me to ride off on a white horse," he said. "But her main concern is my health. She's very much my partner in all this stuff. We've been married 35 years. If I am feeling good and still have the fire to coach, then I should do that, she thinks."

To this day, Holmgren continues to question some of the officiating calls from the 21-10 loss to the Steelers.

"To have the story of the Super Bowl be the officials, that was crazy," Holmgren said. "I was more angry and frustrated by some of the calls that I was devastated."

Holmgren said the officiating was only a very small part of why he left the league's powerful competition committee. "I hadn't seen my wife in a month-and-a-half and I just didn't want to spend a week in Naples, Fla. Reviewing rules and everything," he said.

Holmgren would like to see more consistency in officiating, but he's not in favor of Jon Gruden's proposal to allow coaches to review penalties as a part of instant replay.

"We should not challenge their judgments in that fashion," he said.

Holmgren said he won't be fined for his comment at a Seattle pep rally after the Super Bowl he joked to the crowd, "We knew it was going to be tough going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well."

Commissioner Paul Tagliabue said Wednesday afternoon that he had a letter on his desk recommending that Holmgren be fined, but that the two spoke this morning and Tagliabue decided against such action.

"Often, the first draft of a letter should go in the waste basket," Tagliabue said.

Some of Seattle's assistant coaches rank in the bottom third of club compensation and many feel they were offered only token raises after the Super Bowl loss to Pittsburgh. Consequently, there are some unusual dynamics going on within the Seattle coaching staff and with Holmgren at the moment.

But the most fascinating result of Holmgren's decision to play out his contract could put him an enviable position. Despite the defeat to Pittsburgh, he remains one of the sport's elite coaches. He could name his price as a GM/head coach. And you can bet the first rumor to surface will have Holmgren headed to Dallas to replace Bill Parcells in 2007 or 2008. And if that doesn't hold water, how about Holmgren heading a potential new franchise in Los Angeles?

pjt
03-30-2006, 03:19 PM
Never...He said he wants to be the General Manager and Coach. He said if he is just going to coach he will just stay in Seattle.

superpunk
03-30-2006, 03:23 PM
I've never trusted any fat man with a mustache.

And I'm not about to start now.

Rack Bauer
03-30-2006, 03:27 PM
I've never trusted any fat man with a mustache.

And I'm not about to start now.


What about a goatee (sp?)?

kingwhicker
03-30-2006, 03:39 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Book it!

Yeagermeister
03-30-2006, 03:42 PM
No thanks because then we'd have to play the west coast offense :puke:

cml750
03-30-2006, 04:03 PM
No thanks because then we'd have to play the west coast offense :puke:

That would be a lot better than BP's ultra conservative offense!!:banghead:

BrAinPaiNt
03-30-2006, 04:04 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Book it!

:laugh2:

CactusCowboy
03-30-2006, 04:46 PM
I like him better than The Tuna!

cml750
03-30-2006, 06:03 PM
I like him better than The Tuna!
:yourock: ME TOO!!!!!

Zippy Speedster
03-30-2006, 06:13 PM
Oh like this is a surprise.. His name was surfacing around when Bill was hired. If you remember he was on the "bubble" in Seatle right around that time. Wasn't Dennis Green the third name behind Holmgram and Parcells? I guess Jerry was fatman shopping that spring.

Cowboys&Caps
03-30-2006, 06:14 PM
Say no to the walrus......just say no!!!!!!

Hailmary
03-30-2006, 08:12 PM
I predict Charlie Weis will be Tuna's succesor (reccomended by the Tuna).

t.o.boys81
03-30-2006, 08:16 PM
I predict Charlie Weis will be Tuna's succesor (reccomended by the Tuna).

I can definitly live with that!

Pabst
03-30-2006, 08:29 PM
I have serious reserves about any article that refers to a Head Coach as an "Unrestricted Free Agent."

But, hey, that's just me.

CaptainAmerica
03-30-2006, 09:03 PM
I predict Charlie Weis will be Tuna's succesor (reccomended by the Tuna).


The obvious choice, but I'd be surprised if he left ND that soon, if at all.

PacoReloaded
03-30-2006, 09:06 PM
No thanks because then we'd have to play the west coast offense :puke:What do you think we were running while Payton was here? A form of the WCO.

CowboyMike
03-30-2006, 09:12 PM
Zimmer.

I know a lot of you can't stand him.

But Zimmer. I just have a feeling.

Jerry wouldn't have given both Payton and Zimmer those huge bonuses that season if he wasn't thinking one of them would be the successor to Parcells.

BadKarma
03-30-2006, 09:27 PM
Zimmer.

I know a lot of you can't stand him.

But Zimmer. I just have a feeling.

Jerry wouldn't have given both Payton and Zimmer those huge bonuses that season if he wasn't thinking one of them would be the successor to Parcells.
I certainly hope not!

I have my doubts about Zimmer being a candidate. If Jones was grooming him to be the successor, he probably would not allow him to talk to the Rams about the HC opening there.

jrumann59
03-30-2006, 10:10 PM
Holmgren, he takes forever to put a team together and put his stamp on it. You thought BP took forever to remake the team it took MH almost twice as long to reconstruct the SeaDogs. I doubt it will be Zim and I think BP will be here 2 more years, why he didn't hire a true OC to replace Payton. BP likes to leave teams pretty much setup to succeed when he leaves and that includes Coaches, except BB but he screwed BP.

pancakeman
03-30-2006, 10:17 PM
Wasn't Dennis Green the third name behind Holmgram and Parcells? I guess Jerry was fatman shopping that spring.
:lmao2:

felix360
03-30-2006, 10:19 PM
Never will he be our coach, He wants a GM position, JJ is not going to give that up. Hells NO

felix360
03-30-2006, 10:27 PM
http://www.123imagehost.com/uploads/235-68-capt.5affd445225b4e97ba4bcce81bceb9ab.nfl_combine_ football_inmc108.jpg

Remember this picture, i wonder what they were talking about, maybe there some truth to this. :confused:

Hailmary
03-30-2006, 10:30 PM
The obvious choice, but I'd be surprised if he left ND that soon, if at all.

Everyone has a price,no salary cap on coaches and JJ's got deep pockets. JMO.

Also, Weiss has a pretty cheap buyout clause @ ND.

Resurection of a premiere program + BP endorsement + deep pockets = succesor. Again, JMO.

DallasDomination
03-30-2006, 11:40 PM
Hell YEs I would love Him as our next COACH!!!!....WOW after Tunas rebuild he can take us to teh big dance for sure.:bow:

Gfunk
03-30-2006, 11:47 PM
yeah right, like Jeruh would give up his GM position

he signs the players, reguardless of coaching input, Holmgren couldn't live with that arrangement

jrumann59
03-31-2006, 12:02 AM
yeah right, like Jeruh would give up his GM position

he signs the players, reguardless of coaching input, Holmgren couldn't live with that arrangement


Maybe in the past but not anymore. And the Redskins have room to talk. You guys have had more cowboy thro aways then any other team in the league.

4lifecowboy
03-31-2006, 06:26 AM
Never...He said he wants to be the General Manager and Coach. He said if he is just going to coach he will just stay in Seattle.

What he said was he wouldn't leave for just a coaching job, like parcells said when he joined tha Cowboys this ain't just a coaching a job, this is THE coaching job any year in the NFL.

CrazyCowboy
03-31-2006, 06:36 AM
Notre Dame is using our next coach.........

Danny White
03-31-2006, 08:52 AM
I've never trusted any fat man with a mustache.

And I'm not about to start now.
Not a Teddy Roosevelt fan, eh?

DBoys
03-31-2006, 10:36 AM
Yep gimme Weiss

burmafrd
03-31-2006, 11:01 AM
Morons. Look at the details that came out about Weis's extension: it will cost $15 million to buyout his contract which is a 10 year contract. JJ is NOT going to pay THAT.

DBoys
03-31-2006, 11:03 AM
Morons. Look at the details that came out about Weis's extension: it will cost $15 million to buyout his contract which is a 10 year contract. JJ is NOT going to pay THAT.

Morons would indicate we were aware of that clause in his contract. Pretty bold assumption considering I had no clue about it.

burmafrd
03-31-2006, 11:08 AM
It was discussed ad nauseum last december when it happened- at that time the same speculation had Weis supposedly going to other teams DESPITE his statements he was going nowhere. The school stepped up and signed him to a humonguous extensions- with a very specific buyout clause guaranteed to keep him there no matter what- probably did one specifically to make sure no crazy like Snyder would even consider it.

DBoys
03-31-2006, 11:11 AM
It was discussed ad nauseum last december when it happened- at that time the same speculation had Weis supposedly going to other teams DESPITE his statements he was going nowhere. The school stepped up and signed him to a humonguous extensions- with a very specific buyout clause guaranteed to keep him there no matter what- probably did one specifically to make sure no crazy like Snyder would even consider it.

My bad I totally missed it but your right no way someone eats that kind of cost for a head coach.

burmafrd
03-31-2006, 11:14 AM
ND probably had a meeting and it went like this: " we need to keep him- what kind of a contract would prevent him from leaving?. Well, we need to fix it so that even the craziest NFL owner won't try. OK- who is the craziest NFL owner. Snyder. OK- lets come up with a number even he won't swallow."