Rhein Fire @ Cologne Centurions

[CowboyManDan]

Starts (live) at 10am EST on NFL Network today

Chime in if you're watching and want to talk about Henson and the game

[Dat Dude]

I was just about to post that... Saw it on my Cable Guide and on NFL.com

Hope Drew unleashes hell all game long.. All he needs is A-train and David Terrel:mad:

[thor_01]

can't wait, hope drew is on fire again this week with even better stats, maybe hit 300 yard mark, would make the investment in him look a lot better

[CowboyManDan]

Wow, nice recovery by Henson after a fumbled snap. Made it into a nice play thankfully.

[LaTunaNostra]

That was a nifty recovery of the fumbled snap and a first down completion over the middle...

[CowboyManDan]

Man, an int off a bounced pass off the WR. :(

[VACowboy]

No touch on short passes.

[burmafrd]

First pass was very good after dropping the ball. Second pass- the TE was stumbling and did not reach it. 3rd pass was behind the wr. THE last pass was the worst= he threw it into double coverage.

[Anguillidae]

TO would have caught that last one... :laugh2:

[CowboyManDan]

Just watched the int in slow-mo, the ball bounced off the WR...he was trying to fit it in there...and the DB was practically hanging on the WR. He didn't have two DBs right on him though.

[VACowboy]

Henson is 6-3 or 6-4?

[CowboyManDan]

Wow, that shows his mobility on that 1st down run/scramble. Didn't force anything with a pass.
VACowboy, he's 6'4".

The anouncer said earlier, that Zuriel Smith made a comment about Henson on how Henson is a completely different for the better QB today than 2 years ago when they were both with the Cowboys.

[VACowboy]

Nice run.

[burmafrd]

Slo mo - there were two DB's right close. One right on him- not a smart pass.

Did you get a look at those cheerleaders- EVERYONE of them could stand to lose some weight. Cannot remember the last time I saw a whole squad over weight!!!

[Anguillidae]

Did you get a look at those cheerleaders- EVERYONE of them could stand to lose some weight. Cannot remember the last time I saw a whole squad over weight!!!
Germany is known for beer and sausage. ;)

[CowboyManDan]

TD pass by Henson!

That's the first TD Cologne has allowed I think in the couple games so far?

[Dayton Cowboy]

That was a nifty recovery of the fumbled snap and a first down completion over the middle...

Good to see you LTN, I hadn't seen you post in awhile.

[lspain1]

Did you folks notice he did NOT look at the receiver until he actually threw the ball. Good job!

[VACowboy]

TD pass by Henson!

Yep, a three-yard pass for a TD. But again, no touch.

[ConcreteBoy]

Lets not judge Drew here. Its just NFL Europe and he's playing football again. This is a developmental QB and if he throws 300 yards or 3 interceptions it really won't matter much. He's gaining experience over there.

[burmafrd]

Need to see how he does on the little outs and the dump offs. Does need to show some touch- he tends to gun it a little too much.

[AbeBeta]

Lets not judge Drew here. Its just NFL Europe and he's playing football again. This is a developmental QB and if he throws 300 yards or 3 interceptions it really won't matter much. He's gaining experience over there.

I agree that doing well doesn't show much.

But if he stinks over there it means alot. A guy with Henson's skills should be able to completely dominate. His talent level is much higher than the rest of the guys in that league. If he can't play well in Europe then we are going to cut him

[Anguillidae]

Right in his hands and he droped it... :confused:

[fortdick]

Great scramble to make the first down throw! Showed some real pocket presence there, and MOXIE as well!

:laugh2:

[CowboyManDan]

Lets not judge Drew here. Its just NFL Europe and he's playing football again. This is a developmental QB and if he throws 300 yards or 3 interceptions it really won't matter much. He's gaining experience over there.

Agreed. If he threw the ball softly, someone would say "he doesn't have a strong arm" or "isn't throwing darts". If he throws it hard, its "he doesn't have any touch". Lets just let him play and see what he's got after 10 games.

I'm not trying to overvalue his good plays....I understand it's NFLE. But He's getting a chance to play and improving. And he'll find stuff to improve on after the NFLE season. And maybe more touch on drop-offs is one of them...and probably an easier fix. But so far, I think he looks good...something to build on.

[burmafrd]

Definitly needs some work on his short passes.

[burmafrd]

You do not want to throw rainbows like that.

[Anguillidae]

Fire has a good running game.

[CowboyManDan]

Didn't like that pass to the RB in the flats just there.

[VACowboy]

Lets not judge Drew here. Its just NFL Europe and he's playing football again. This is a developmental QB and if he throws 300 yards or 3 interceptions it really won't matter much. He's gaining experience over there.


I want Henson to succeed. He cost us a third-round pick and this team needs a QB of the future. He has all the physical talent in the world. And while I agree that we shouldn't judge him on stats, I think how he throws the ball is fair game. It's a constant, no matter what continent he's playing on.

Elway had a problem with touch for years, though, so...

[burmafrd]

He tends to throw low on the short passes- but I would rather they were low then high- since those tend to get int and run back for TD's.

[burmafrd]

That last pass was tipped at the line- amazing the announcers did not notice that.

[CowboyManDan]

That last pass was tipped at the line- amazing the announcers did not notice that.

I hear ya. I guess the announcers are developmental too!
So 2nd quater I expect to see Chang.

[VACowboy]

He tends to throw low on the short passes- but I would rather they were low then high- since those tend to get int and run back for TD's.

Carter did that too, but judging from what I've seen of Henson, I think Q threw a better long ball.

[burmafrd]

That rainbow he threw on the deep route- he has GOT to make sure that is not a habit.

[CowboyManDan]

Timmy Chang is hurt, looks in pain.

[VACowboy]

Leg or knee, looks like.

[Juke99]

Henson certainly hasn't put up great numbers....but I do like the way he looks...I am impressed with his awareness in the pocket...I like his mobility...so far, I haven't seen anything that discourages me.

[theebs]

I am going to put the video of all of hensons throws up some time this afternoon..... I missed one throw because I didnt realize chang got hurt ..oh well..

[Anguillidae]

I am going to put the video of all of hensons throws up some time this afternoon..... I missed one throw because I didnt realize chang got hurt ..oh well..
Thanks! :)

[iceberg]

2nd 1/2 coming up. but first, a roto7 commercial!!! : )

chang done for the day.

[CowboyManDan]

Nice play. Good mobility showed again.

[Juke99]

and we don't have any other QB on our roster who could make that last throw....great stuff!

[VACowboy]

Great throw on the run.

[iceberg]

and a miscommunication between new players. how unlike the nfle...

[CowboyManDan]

Didn't like that last play though. He had time to wait for somone to get open, but ran out of bounds.

[aznhalf]

I am going to put the video of all of hensons throws up some time this afternoon..... I missed one throw because I didnt realize chang got hurt ..oh well..

Thanks! The last two weeks were great. Appreciate the effort.

[burmafrd]

so far today- decent but not great. He is getting great protection- should be doing better then he is.

[Anguillidae]

so far today- decent but not great. He is getting great protection- should be doing better then he is.
Yes, I'm a bit disappointed in Henson so far. His long passes are too tall/long.

[CowboyManDan]

Good pass on that slant.

And another good one on that 3rd down to hit Zuriel Smith in stride for 34 yds.

[iceberg]

????

in the middle of the run when NO ONE brought jackson down, they called it over?

[NYCowboy22]

PI 1st and goal... Henson getting drilled.

[Anguillidae]

PI 1st and goal... Henson getting drilled.
Good thing is he stays in the pocket looking for the play, and takes the hit like a man..

[cannonball44]

Good thing is he stays in the pocket looking for the play, and takes the hit like a man..

David Carr = Chuck Norris

[Anguillidae]

David Carr = Chuck Norris
Does Carr kill defensive linemen :eek:

[Ren]

that sack and fumble remindes me of another Drew :bang2:

[SALADIN]

Gotta protect that football.

He Chad'd

[CowboyManDan]

Gotta protect that football.

He Chad'd
:lmao2: Chad'd!? That's great!

Yea, he's got to protect the ball in situations like that.

[Ren]

Nice comeback play! sweet pass

[theebs]

i got distracted and forgot to hit record and missed that entire scoring drive....So I will record that part of the game later and add it to the video..

so now the video wont be until about 10 tonight!!!

[CowboyManDan]

Good play/catch by Starling for 49 yards. That play was made by Starling.

[Ren]

dubt they'll pass anymore now that they are up by 10

[burmafrd]

You throw rainbows like that in the NFL and they WILL get picked.

[DallasCowpoke111]

That WR Newhouse on Cologne, is Robert's son out of Baylor I believe.

[burmafrd]

Not a great game by Henson= but not too bad either. That pick was not good= and that fumble was a bad memory of Hutch. Made some good short and medium passes- some good outs and slants. His two long passes were of the type YOU DO NOT throw in the NFL.

[iceberg]

:lmao2: Chad'd!? That's great!

Yea, he's got to protect the ball in situations like that.

why? bledsoe doesn't.

any qb who plays enough will have an int. will have a fumble. but when the player is being micro-watched, every "normal" play fans tend to make it "make or break".

[DallasCowpoke111]

Welllllllll, game over. I wonder if now........











"We dance!!"






?? :p:

[hogwild]

Just Win Baby :bow: Henson is just a WINNER

no matter how much people criticize , he just wins.

Parcells loves to win ugly anyway:D

[iceberg]

well he didn't throw for 8 td's, run for 3, help 7 old ladies across the 60 yard line and he couldn't tell you what happened to jimmy hoffa -

so basically the pro-drew crowd will look around for a few positives and the anti-drew crowd will work in overdrive to belittle each and every one.

another week of the offseason goes by.

[ctalker]

He's 3-0, good enough for me

[cannonball44]

what the Pro Drew crowd will say is that he is undefeated...

[CowboyManDan]

why? bledsoe doesn't.

any qb who plays enough will have an int. will have a fumble. but when the player is being micro-watched, every "normal" play fans tend to make it "make or break".

Dude, I just thought his Chad comment was humorous.
Relax, few want Henson to succeed as much as me. I'm not a fan of stopgap QBs and want a young guy with a long future starting asap. I'm happy with Henson's overall performance thus far. And today I thought he played well...my favorite play being a 38yd strike in which he hit Smith in stride. And for the most part, he's also managing the game decently.

[big dog cowboy]

You throw rainbows like that in the NFL and they WILL get picked.
I'm guessing that posting the same thing 4 or 5 times means your not a Henson fan?

[Boom]

What's with the 3rd and short plays and the bomb passes? I watched the game sporadically, but those play calls killed atleast 2 drives that I know of.

[Jarv]

What were his final numbers ?

Yard work today in the Northeast...:(

[burmafrd]

14-28 165 yds 1 TD 1 Int 1 Fumble
That just win thing is dumb. THIS IS NFL EUROPE. If you cannot burn it up there you have no chance in the NFL. I watched that game- I TIVO'd it as well. He did OK- not great. He threw 2 rainbows that were NOT good. Threw his INT when he was in the red zone and tried to force it. DId very well on the short stuff- needs to learn a little more touch but his slants were very good - everyone was low so that only the receiver had a shot at it. He played almost the entire game because Chang was injured in the 2nd qtr.
It was suprising to me that he seemed to have most of his trouble on the long passes. The medium and short stuff he did good on. Showed very good mobility and pocket presence.

[iceberg]

14-28 165 yds 1 TD 1 Int 1 Fumble
That just win thing is dumb. THIS IS NFL EUROPE. If you cannot burn it up there you have no chance in the NFL. I watched that game- I TIVO'd it as well. He did OK- not great. He threw 2 rainbows that were NOT good. Threw his INT when he was in the red zone and tried to force it. DId very well on the short stuff- needs to learn a little more touch but his slants were very good - everyone was low so that only the receiver had a shot at it. He played almost the entire game because Chang was injured in the 2nd qtr.
It was suprising to me that he seemed to have most of his trouble on the long passes. The medium and short stuff he did good on. Showed very good mobility and pocket presence.

this "analyze drew death and make NFL comparisons to a league that shares name but not process" is dumb.

to hold drew accountable to NOT make mistakes we see bledsoe make every game is dumb.

but it will continue.

[BadKarma]

Game stats can be found at:
http://www.nfleurope.com/scores/stats/2006/04022006_rhe_col_stats

[Hailmary]

14-28 165 yds 1 TD 1 Int 1 Fumble
That just win thing is dumb. THIS IS NFL EUROPE. If you cannot burn it up there you have no chance in the NFL. I watched that game- I TIVO'd it as well. He did OK- not great. He threw 2 rainbows that were NOT good. Threw his INT when he was in the red zone and tried to force it. DId very well on the short stuff- needs to learn a little more touch but his slants were very good - everyone was low so that only the receiver had a shot at it. He played almost the entire game because Chang was injured in the 2nd qtr.
It was suprising to me that he seemed to have most of his trouble on the long passes. The medium and short stuff he did good on. Showed very good mobility and pocket presence.

Thta's fine w/ me, 'cause I think the long stuff is more dependent on the WR's abilities, ie.pure speed and/or him jockeying for position. If the QB can complete the intermediate stuff, than he can play in the league.

[burmafrd]

To me the bottom line is that Henson looks pretty decent- but not great.
He has 7 more games- probably 8 since that team will probably make it to the championship game. By the end of this season we should have a good handle on how much progress he has made. To me this is what he should have been doing last year- game experience is what he needs badly.

[burmafrd]

By problems with the long ball I mean HIS PROBLEMs. His two long passes were RAINBOWS- they hung up there like a good punt. NOT the thing you can do in the NFL.

[rmahler]

theebs!! When is the video coming? I'm sure some of us (if we're close) can come help with the yard work!! Really appreciated last week's video.

Thanks.



:starspin

[Jarv]

theebs!! When is the video coming? I'm sure some of us (if we're close) can come help with the yard work!! Really appreciated last week's video.

Thanks.



:starspin

Lol...I know I am doing yard work, didn't notice Theebs (who is doing the video) mention it. Wish I were riding instead cleaning the yard.

Damn snow plow folks plowed my gravel driveway into the yard last winter plowing.....Grrr...

By the way, what time is the reply on ?

[Funxva]

Heya. Is there a replay of the game?

[TheHustler]

I sincerely hope there is another video recap of his passes.

[The30YardSlant]

Another very average game for a very average player. :rolleyes:

[Juke99]

Another very average game for a very average player. :rolleyes:


Well, not exactly true...even the biggest of detractors would have to say that Henson is anything but "average" in his skills.

Now, his numbers might have been pedestrian today but he flashed the stuff that has some of us upbeat about him...

I've been noticing that he throws better when moving than when he sits in the pocket...I think he is still too deliberate in the pocket...

Remember, none of us knows that the Cowboys staff is looking at...or looking to see from him. In their eyes, today might have been a great game... a lousy game...or an average game. We simply don't know.

Fact of the matter is, it's still to early to judge.

[Juke99]

What were his final numbers ?

Yard work today in the Northeast...:(


Yard work????

Hey...I'm up in Guilford CT today..

Yardwork my behind.

:D

[The30YardSlant]

Well, not exactly true...even the biggest of detractors would have to say that Henson is anything but "average" in his skills.

Now, his numbers might have been pedestrian today but he flashed the stuff that has some of us upbeat about him...

I've been noticing that he throws better when moving than when he sits in the pocket...I think he is still too deliberate in the pocket...

Remember, none of us knows that the Cowboys staff is looking at...or looking to see from him. In their eyes, today might have been a great game... a lousy game...or an average game. We simply don't know.

Fact of the matter is, it's still to early to judge.

I acknowledge that he does have some great raw skills (though he is certainly no Aikman, Staubach, or anything close to them). His mind is not in the game, though. He has never looked comfortable out on the football field.

[DBoys]

The two things that impresses me with the fire is

1) Defense is really good specially their DB's
2) OL is dominant

3 games they have played in bad conditions as a matter of fact the field has been rain soaked. Henson is making progress and I am optimistic that by the end of the season he will be in good shape. If he gets in a groove he will be our #2 Romo is nothing more than a backup.

[Juke99]

I acknowledge that he does have some great raw skills (though he is certainly no Aikman, Staubach, or anything close to them). His mind is not in the game, though. He has never looked comfortable out on the football field.


I don't know of many Aikmans or Staubachs...

He seems way too programmed...when he's on the run, he looks very good...but in the pocket, he is like a robot...I don't know if he's concentrating too much on his mechanics...or has too much time to think...

[big dog cowboy]

His mind is not in the game, though.
Link???

[superpunk]

Another very average game for a very average player. :rolleyes:

How much of that "very average game" did you actually see?

[The30YardSlant]

How much of that "very average game" did you actually see?

14-28 165 yds 1 TD 1 Int 1 Fumble

Those numbers are average at best for an NFL Europe game. In the NFL, that's camp fodder numbers.

[superpunk]

14-28 165 yds 1 TD 1 Int 1 Fumble

Those numbers are average at best for an NFL Europe game. In the NFL, that's camp fodder numbers.

So...none.

Good to know.

[The30YardSlant]

So...none.

Good to know.

I've seen him suck it up through 2 preseasons and a regular season start. I don't need to watch him put up average numbers against scrub defensive players in Germany.

The sooner we can admit what a waste of a draft pick he was and move on, the sooner we can think about getting a real young QB in here.

[Jarv]

Yard work????

Hey...I'm up in Guilford CT today..

Yardwork my behind.

:D


Crossed the sound today ? How are you with a rake ?

Sometimes I wish I lived in a condo.

[superpunk]

I've seen him suck it up through 2 preseasons and a regular season start. I don't need to watch him put up average numbers against scrub defensive players in Germany.

The sooner we can admit what a waste of a draft pick he was and move on, the sooner we can think about getting a real young QB in here.

So you saw absolutely none of the game, but you feel confident enough in your psychic abilities to dub it "average", based on the stat sheet? Tell me....on your almighty stat sheet did it talk about critical drops by receivers, when Henson hit them right in the numbers? Did it mention the unbelievably athletic plays Henson made with his feet, buying time to make a perfect throw downfield across his body, directly into the receivers chest? I guess it didn't.

But none of those things matter, anyway. Because, instead of rooting for a Dallas Cowboys player, and letting things play out in their own time, you;ve taken your stance on one side of the issue, and nothing Henson does is ever going to change your mind. So I have to wonder, why bother even posting your nonsense on Henson? We've all been bored to tears with your inane, agenda driven bashing of Henson, so why continue? Is it so, if that sad day comes and we have to give Henson up for failure, you chest thump in a distinctly "Norsian" manner? Because you're obviously not in these threads looking for intelligent feedback, or even being remotely interested in how Henson did today.

It's old and tired. Have fun in your hate filled agenda-corner. The rest of us are enjoying a young man's prgress. And WE'VE actually seen him playing.

[The30YardSlant]

So you saw absolutely none of the game, but you feel confident enough in your psychic abilities to dub it "average", based on the stat sheet?

Based on the fact that he has done nothing but digress in two years, yes. I'd go as far to say that it was below average.

Tell me....on your almighty stat sheet did it talk about critical drops by receivers, when Henson hit them right in the numbers?

So he hit his WR right in the numbers and it was dropped 14 times? Hmmm...

Did it mention the unbelievably athletic plays Henson made with his feet, buying time to make a perfect throw downfield across his body, directly into the receivers chest? I guess it didn't.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Please stop, you're killing me. Vince Young makes "unbelievably athletic plays with his feet", Drew Henson does not. Drew Henson occasionally runs around like a chicken with his proverbial head cut off, then curls up in the fetal position.

But none of those things matter, anyway.

You're right, they don't. Its the NFL Europe. I could go over there and shut down any WR on that field, and I was nothing more than a 1 year attempted college walk on.

Because, instead of rooting for a Dallas Cowboys player, and letting things play out in their own time, you;ve taken your stance on one side of the issue, and nothing Henson does is ever going to change your mind.

When Henson goes out there and lights up these scrubs like any good NFL QB should do, give me a call. Until then, he has done nothing worthy of notice.

So I have to wonder, why bother even posting your nonsense on Henson? We've all been bored to tears with your inane, agenda driven bashing of Henson, so why continue?

1: I'm not making you read anything, if you dont like it, dont read it.

2: If wanting to win is an agenda, I'm guilty as charged. Henson CANNOT help the Dallas Cowboys win.

Is it so, if that sad day comes and we have to give Henson up for failure, you chest thump in a distinctly "Norsian" manner?

I wont "thump" anything, I'll be happy, just like you all will be, when you realize what a collassal failure he is.

Because you're obviously not in these threads looking for intelligent feedback, or even being remotely interested in how Henson did today.

Again, NFL Europe. Give me a call when he throws more than 1 TD, or Heaven forbid more than 200 yards even once.

It's old and tired. Have fun in your hate filled agenda-corner. The rest of us are enjoying a young man's prgress. And WE'VE actually seen him playing.

If that's what you call "progress" then you've obviously never played football in your life. I would be disgusted if I was a QB and had done so little in over 2 years.

[The30YardSlant]

Ok, I was wrong, Drew Henson HAS made some progress over the last 2 years. He has mastered the art of shoe tying.

http://espn.starwave.com/media/nfl/2004/0220/photo/a_henson_vi.jpg

Keep up the good work tiger :rolleyes:

[Little Jr]

So I have to wonder, why bother even posting your nonsense on Henson? We've all been bored to tears with your inane, agenda driven bashing of Henson, so why continue?
It's old and tired. Have fun in your hate filled agenda-corner. The rest of us are enjoying a young man's prgress. And WE'VE actually seen him playing.



I seen him play and I agree with Hitta.

I look at it from the other side. Why bother posting all your nonsense on Henson. I've been tired of all the inane, agenda driven Henson apologist, so why continue?

It's old and tired. Have fun in your Henson koolaid drinking filled agenda-corner. I will sit here and watch a young man have a avg year in NFL EUROPE. And I'VE actually seen him play.


That's JMO. But this is a MB and everyone has an opinion.

[The30YardSlant]

I seen him play and I agree with Hitta.

I look at it from the other side. Why bother posting all your nonsense on Henson. I've been tired of all the inane, agenda driven Henson apologist, so why continue?

It's old and tired. Have fun in your Hesson koolaid drinking filled agenda-corner. I will sit here and watch a young man have a avg year in NFL EUROPE. And I'VE actually seen him play.


That's JMO. But this is a MB and everyone has an opinion.

:bow:

[iceberg]

since you're not even watching - this shows those of us w/o any "real" opinion on your views moving away from your grasp of reality:

Please stop, you're killing me. Vince Young makes "unbelievably athletic plays with his feet", Drew Henson does not. Drew Henson occasionally runs around like a chicken with his proverbial head cut off, then curls up in the fetal position.

henson has done very well "on the run" in the last 2 weeks and made some VERY athletic throws. you'd know that if you watched. since you *do* just hate for the sake of hating you say things like this that are simply NOT true.

[zrinkill]

since you're not even watching - this shows those of us w/o any "real" opinion on your views moving away from your grasp of reality:

Please stop, you're killing me. Vince Young makes "unbelievably athletic plays with his feet", Drew Henson does not. Drew Henson occasionally runs around like a chicken with his proverbial head cut off, then curls up in the fetal position.

henson has done very well "on the run" in the last 2 weeks and made some VERY athletic throws. you'd know that if you watched. since you *do* just hate for the sake of hating you say things like this that are simply NOT true.

:bow:

[The30YardSlant]

since you're not even watching - this shows those of us w/o any "real" opinion on your views moving away from your grasp of reality:

Please stop, you're killing me. Vince Young makes "unbelievably athletic plays with his feet", Drew Henson does not. Drew Henson occasionally runs around like a chicken with his proverbial head cut off, then curls up in the fetal position.

henson has done very well "on the run" in the last 2 weeks and made some VERY athletic throws. you'd know that if you watched. since you *do* just hate for the sake of hating you say things like this that are simply NOT true.

The man has worse stats than Chutch did. THAT is who you are wagering this franchise's future on, a guy who can't even play as well as maybe the worst QB to ever start an NFL game. Making a great play on the run is not scrambling 3 yards to yuor right and throwing a pass across your body. Watch McNabb sometime if you want to see great plays on the run

Every throw this guy makes, the Henson lovers have less and less to fall back on. Now they have so little they are praising him over ONLY throwing 1 INT and ONLY fumbling once against guys who have no right to be on a football field outside of your local D-3 college.

What wonders await us next week. Maybe he will actually hit 51% on passes next week, and what a joyous day that will be.

[superpunk]

Based on the fact that he has done nothing but digress in two years, yes. I'd go as far to say that it was below average.

But just so we're straight, you have absolutely no visual evidence or background for making that claim? i.e. didn't actually watch the game.



So he hit his WR right in the numbers and it was dropped 14 times? Hmmm...

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I said.:rolleyes:

Please stop, you're killing me. Vince Young makes "unbelievably athletic plays with his feet", Drew Henson does not. Drew Henson occasionally runs around like a chicken with his proverbial head cut off, then curls up in the fetal position.

Wow, again making a fool out of yourself by making ridiculous statements WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING SEEN HIM PLAY. Great move - honestly.

I could go over there and shut down any WR on that field, and I was nothing more than a 1 year attempted college walk on.

Right, a lame-o intramural player could shut down guys who are actually on NFL squads. You couldn't hang with those guys for a second. I know this, without having seen you play. Fun how that works, isn't it?

When Henson goes out there and lights up these scrubs like any good NFL QB should do, give me a call. Until then, he has done nothing worthy of notice.

When you've actually seen him play, his command of the offense, and his progress within that offense, give me a call. Until then, you're just talking out your ***.

If wanting to win is an agenda, I'm guilty as charged. Henson CANNOT help the Dallas Cowboys win.

Lottery numbers for Tuesday, Miss Cleo?

I wont "thump" anything, I'll be happy, just like you all will be, when you realize what a collassal failure he is.

Bingo, agenda-boy. You'll be happy. The rest of us will be upset if it doesn't work out. That's the difference between being a chest-thumping agenda-boy, and a rational NFL fan.

[quote[If that's what you call "progress" then you've obviously never played football in your life. I would be disgusted if I was a QB and had done so little in over 2 years.[/quote]

I'm sure he is disappointed. Probably had something to do with him being so eager to get over there and get some game experience, no? Or....Maybe he's just doing it all for the Schnitzel.:rolleyes:

[Little Jr]

henson has done very well "on the run" in the last 2 weeks and made some VERY athletic throws. you'd know that if you watched. since you *do* just hate for the sake of hating you say things like this that are simply NOT true.


Very well is a stretch. Well would be more like it. In no way has it been unbelievable as super some how thinks.

[iceberg]

Very well is a stretch. Well would be more like it. In no way has it been unbelievable as super some how thinks.

hey, i thought it was pretty impressive. he seems more natural on the run than in a patterned drop though.

[superpunk]

I seen him play and I agree with Hitta.

I look at it from the other side. Why bother posting all your nonsense on Henson. I've been tired of all the inane, agenda driven Henson apologist, so why continue?

It's old and tired. Have fun in your Henson koolaid drinking filled agenda-corner. I will sit here and watch a young man have a avg year in NFL EUROPE. And I'VE actually seen him play.


That's JMO. But this is a MB and everyone has an opinion.

Is anyone saying he's the next great thing? THat he'll be supplanting Bledsoe THIS year? Most people I've seen, including yours truly, are taking the rational, wait and see approach, rather than passing judgement on an internet message board, in some pitiful attempt to have "called it". People post on henson, he's a Cowboys player who is actually playing right now. When those posts are made, they generally include pros, and cons. Quite the balanced, rational approach to the whole thing, IMO. Then, you have the chest-thumpers, who have taken their side, and want to shove their shallow, short-sighted agenda down the rational thinkers' throats - again - without having actually seen the kid play.

[The30YardSlant]

But just so we're straight, you have absolutely no visual evidence or background for making that claim? i.e. didn't actually watch the game.





Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I said.:rolleyes:



Wow, again making a fool out of yourself by making ridiculous statements WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING SEEN HIM PLAY. Great move - honestly.



Right, a lame-o intramural player could shut down guys who are actually on NFL squads. You couldn't hang with those guys for a second. I know this, without having seen you play. Fun how that works, isn't it?



When you've actually seen him play, his command of the offense, and his progress within that offense, give me a call. Until then, you're just talking out your ***.



Lottery numbers for Tuesday, Miss Cleo?



Bingo, agenda-boy. You'll be happy. The rest of us will be upset if it doesn't work out. That's the difference between being a chest-thumping agenda-boy, and a rational NFL fan.



I'm sure he is disappointed. Probably had something to do with him being so eager to get over there and get some game experience, no? Or....Maybe he's just doing it all for the Schnitzel.:rolleyes:

:laugh2:

Let's see, you saw him play one NFL Europe game, I watched him flounder about in 2 preseasons and a regular season start. I've seen him play in 10 games against REAL NFL competition, though you seem to be unable to grasp that.

And reading comprehension isnt your strong point, though football in general doesnt seem to be your strongpoint either. I said I'll be happy when we get rid of Henson BECAUSE he cant help us, not because I dont like him or want him to fail.

And dont call me boy, you are 1 year older than me :lmao:

[The30YardSlant]

hey, i thought it was pretty impressive. he seems more natural on the run than in a patterned drop though.

The you have low standards.

[iceberg]

:laugh2:

Let's see, you saw him play one NFL Europe game, I watched him flounder about in 2 preseasons and a regular season start. I've seen him play in 10 games against REAL NFL competition, though you seem to be unable to grasp that.

where in the hell has henson played 10 games in the NFL?

[The30YardSlant]

Is anyone saying he's the next great thing? THat he'll be supplanting Bledsoe THIS year? Most people I've seen, including yours truly, are taking the rational, wait and see approach, rather than passing judgement on an internet message board, in some pitiful attempt to have "called it". People post on henson, he's a Cowboys player who is actually playing right now. When those posts are made, they generally include pros, and cons. Quite the balanced, rational approach to the whole thing, IMO. Then, you have the chest-thumpers, who have taken their side, and want to shove their shallow, short-sighted agenda down the rational thinkers' throats - again - without having actually seen the kid play.

Wait and see huh.....

Well, he's already 27, so he better get to gettin' :laugh2:

You have nothing to support your arguement, I have pitiful numbers in both the NFL and the NFL Europe to back up mine.

[BigDFan5]

14-28 165 yds 1 TD 1 Int 1 Fumble

Those numbers are average at best for an NFL Europe game. In the NFL, that's camp fodder numbers.

which means "I didn't see a single snap"

[superpunk]

Very well is a stretch. Well would be more like it. In no way has it been unbelievable as super some how thinks.

Forgive my embellished adjective. He's made some really nice plays on the run. Plays no other QB on our current roster can make. I saw them, I believed they happened....I suppose they're not so - unbelievable.

[iceberg]

The you have low standards.

only in people who i argue with.

[The30YardSlant]

where in the hell has henson played 10 games in the NFL?

4 preseason games in 2004

3 in 2005

4th quarter against Baltimore in 2004

Start against Chcago in 2004

Okay, you got me, 9 games

[CowboyManDan]

I was very impressed by Henson's mobility this week and the last. The TD pass last week and the 1st down run this week were not run-of-the-mill plays. He shouldn't be proclaimed as mobile as Vick, but he shouldn't downplayed either.

[The30YardSlant]

only in people who i argue with.

For the sake of the continuation of this debate, I'll pretend you didnt just throw out a 3rd grade incoherant insult

[The30YardSlant]

which means "I didn't see a single snap"

:laugh2:

Sorry, I've got better things to do on a beautiful Sunday than watch a NFL Europe game filled with guys that are not far above my own skill level.

[iceberg]

so you consider preseason REAL NFL competition when many of these are simply being evaluated?

heh, ok. you do that.

[superpunk]

Let's see, you saw him play one NFL Europe game,

Correction agenda boy. Three NFL Europe games. But who's counting?

I watched him flounder about in 2 preseasons and a regular season start.

Sweet sassy molassey! The kid looked rusty? I thought players were generally lights out in the preseason. What have I been smoking?

I've seen him play in 10 games against REAL NFL competition, though you seem to be unable to grasp that.

Who's counting? Obviously not HH.:lmao:

And reading comprehension isnt your strong point, though football in general doesnt seem to be your strongpoint either. I said I'll be happy when we get rid of Henson BECAUSE he cant help us, not because I dont like him or want him to fail.

No Cowboys fan should want any player to fail, save those who desire chest thhumping privileges on internet message boards. I "comprehend" you just fine.

And dont call me boy, you are 1 year older than me :lmao:

My apologies, son.:D

[iceberg]

For the sake of the continuation of this debate, I'll pretend you didnt just throw out a 3rd grade incoherant insult

great, and i'll pretend you're not acting like you're in the 3rd grade and we'll be all even now.

[The30YardSlant]

so you consider preseason REAL NFL competition when many of these are simply being evaluated?

heh, ok. you do that.

75% of the players that Henson faces in the second half of preseason games would start in NFL Europe.

Yes, that is real competition.

[iceberg]

real, yes. gotcha.

heh, right.

[BigDFan5]

4 preseason games in 2004


Where he outplayed Romo in 3 of the games

3 in 2005

Where he was injured and had a new throwing motion

4th quarter against Baltimore in 2004

Where he was I believe 6-6 and 1 TD

Start against Chcago in 2004

Where he was the winning QB

[Little Jr]

Forgive my embellished adjective. He's made some really nice plays on the run. Plays no other QB on our current roster can make. I saw them, I believed they happened....I suppose they're not so - unbelievable.


I could go with really nice plays I guess. Dont know if Romo could make plays with his feet or not but comparing his mobility with Bledsoe isnt saying much. I think I'm more mobil than Bledsoe. Well, maybe not but not far off.

[The30YardSlant]

Correction agenda boy. Three NFL Europe games. But who's counting?



Sweet sassy molassey! The kid looked rusty? I thought players were generally lights out in the preseason. What have I been smoking?



Who's counting? Obviously not HH.:lmao:



No Cowboys fan should want any player to fail, save those who desire chest thhumping privileges on internet message boards. I "comprehend" you just fine.



My apologies, son.:D

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

It keeps getting better. I specifically say that I dont want Henson to fail, and what does this degenerate do? Throws out the SAME "agenda" garbage he has been the whole thread. :lmao:

Give me one reason, any reason, as to why i should have hope based on these games? Give me one, and I'll never speak on the subject again.

[BigDFan5]

:laugh2:

Sorry, I've got better things to do on a beautiful Sunday than watch a NFL Europe game filled with guys that are not far above my own skill level.

your skill level? that being the local pop warner teAm right? Have you figured out who the Eagles backup QB was last year or are you still holding onto being wrong?

[The30YardSlant]

great, and i'll pretend you're not acting like you're in the 3rd grade and we'll be all even now.

I have stats, two years of garbage, and NFL Europe suckage to back up my point

What do you have? Hope?

Who's in third grade again? :lmao:

[iceberg]

I have stats, two years of garbage, and NFL Europe suckage to back up my point

What do you have? Hope?

Who's in third grade again? :lmao:

my guess would be the one coloring his posts with the pretty smilies.

[The30YardSlant]

your skill level? that being the local pop warner teAm right? Have you figured out who the Eagles backup QB was last year or are you still holding onto being wrong?

I was an all-district DB in High school, and held my own against REAL division 1 WRs at Texas A&M.

Nice try, though :laugh2:

[The30YardSlant]

my guess would be the one coloring his posts with the pretty smilies.

Sorry, I just find your nonsensical babble very amusing

[Rack Bauer]

I was an all-district DB in High school, and held my own against REAL division 1 WRs at Texas A&M.

Nice try, though :laugh2:



HH, wake up! You were posting in your sleep again!

[iceberg]

Sorry, I just find your nonsensical babble very amusing

good deal, it *is* the exact reason why i do it. : )

[The30YardSlant]

Where he outplayed Romo in 3 of the games



Where he was injured and had a new throwing motion



Where he was I believe 6-6 and 1 TD



Where he was the winning QB

Moral victories are something else, arent they? He was the reason we almost lost that Chicago game, and was pulled at halftime.

He was playing against 2nd and 3rd teamers when he went 6 for 6.

He only "outplayed" Romo in 2 games, and was dominated by Romo in the last preseason game.

Good QBs play through injuries. Farve, Aikman, Roathisberger, Elway, Marino, on and on and on.

[The30YardSlant]

good deal, it *is* the exact reason why i do it. : )

Good for you? :confused:

[BigDFan5]

I was an all-district DB in High school, and held my own against REAL division 1 WRs at Texas A&M.

Nice try, though :laugh2:

Sure you did superstar. For someone who supposedly played so much football you know jack **** about the game. I mean you don't know what a slant is, you don't know what a backup QB is I just dont see this wealth of football knowledge. Where is it?

[The30YardSlant]

HH, wake up! You were posting in your sleep again!

Rack, wake up! Henson sucks!

[SuspectCorner]

i didn't have the privelege of seeing the game.

i think the most important thing that can come of this is, NOT a "Rhein Fire championship" - but, simply having Henson gain in the confidence that will allow him to maximize his efforts at the NFL level.

early struggles should be considered part of the growth process. it's less important how he starts the season than how he finishes it.

i hope the guy gets the most outta this tour of duty. wouldn't it be great to go into a season with a guy you could clearly see as "up 'n coming"... instead of Dallas becoming a perennial elephants' graveyard for graybeard QBs?

[superpunk]

I specifically say that I dont want Henson to fail,

Then why take every opportunity to bash him, call him out, and rehash your same, tired old lines without actually seeing the kid.

Give me one reason, any reason, as to why i should have hope based on these games? Give me one, and I'll never speak on the subject again.

Progress withing the offense. Leading sustaines scoring drives. Making smart plays, not turning the ball over. Not taking sacks. Showing good athleticism. Good decision making. Definite improvement over the last time we saw him in the preseason, and marked improvement over his first NFLE game.

There, I don't know how many reasons that is, but I'm sure that won't keep you from opening your mouth again on the subject. After all, you haven't even seen the games. :rolleyes: So you're MORE than qualified to speak on Drews progress, or lack thereof.

[Jarv]

Moral victories are something else, arent they? He was the reason we almost lost that Chicago game, and was pulled at halftime.

He was playing against 2nd and 3rd teamers when he went 6 for 6.

He only "outplayed" Romo in 2 games, and was dominated by Romo in the last preseason game.

Good QBs play through injuries. Farve, Aikman, Roathisberger, Elway, Marino, on and on and on.

Ed Reed has been demoted to 3rd string ?

Would you stop watching the Boys if Henson ever became the starter ? You seem to have serious hate for the guy.

[BigDFan5]

Moral victories are something else, arent they? He was the reason we almost lost that Chicago game, and was pulled at halftime.

He "almost" lost it? But he never trailed in the game hmm funny how that works

He was playing against 2nd and 3rd teamers when he went 6 for 6.

Wow I didnt realize Reed and Lewis got demoted that day

He only "outplayed" Romo in 2 games, and was dominated by Romo in the last preseason game.

Oh poor HH we went over this already Henson outplayed Romo in the first 3 games, by the time the 4th rolled around he had the backup job wrapped up already, and only played one series in the 4th game and then the third stringer (Romo) played the rest.


Good QBs play through injuries. Farve, Aikman, Roathisberger, Elway, Marino, on and on and on.


And he played through it without omplaint.

[The30YardSlant]

Then why take every opportunity to bash him, call him out, and rehash your same, tired old lines without actually seeing the kid.



Progress withing the offense. Leading sustaines scoring drives. Making smart plays, not turning the ball over. Not taking sacks. Showing good athleticism. Good decision making. Definite improvement over the last time we saw him in the preseason, and marked improvement over his first NFLE game.

There, I don't know how many reasons that is, but I'm sure that won't keep you from opening your mouth again on the subject. After all, you haven't even seen the games. :rolleyes: So you're MORE than qualified to speak on Drews progress, or lack thereof.

He threw no INTs last week, then he throws 1 this week, has a fumble, and completes 50% of his passes.

That's not progress, thats floundering in a talent pool not worthy of American play.

Try again scooter

[superpunk]

He threw no INTs last week, then he throws 1 this week, has a fumble, and completes 50% of his passes.

That's not progress, thats floundering in a talent pool not worthy of American play.

Try again scooter

And you saw none of it.

Guess no NFL QB would ever throw an INT, or make ill-advised throws, huh? Never mind the fact that he rebounded quite nicely in the game (which, I might point out, you didn't actually see).

[iceberg]

He threw no INTs last week, then he throws 1 this week, has a fumble, and completes 50% of his passes.

That's not progress, thats floundering in a talent pool not worthy of American play.

Try again scooter

so any qb that ever has a week like this is a failure? i would think that would be every quarterback.

[SultanOfSix]

Stats don't tell the whole story. Why are you guys arguing with someone who hasn't even watched the games? How can you give his opinion credence - at least with respect to what Henson is doing in NFL Europe?

[superpunk]

In other news, Roger Staubach was WAYYYYYYYYYY overrated.

I mean, I never actually saw him play, but.....

[BigDFan5]

Stats don't tell the whole story. Why are you guys arguing with someone who hasn't even watched the games? How can you give his opinion credence - at least with respect to what Henson is doing in NFL Europe?

Nobody is giving his opinion any credence, just exposing it for the agenda driven nonsense it is.

[iceberg]

Nobody is giving his opinion any credence, just exposing it for the agenda driven nonsence it is.

whole lot of exposin going on tonight... >g<

[superpunk]

Nobody is giving his opinion any credence, just exposing it for the agenda driven nonsence it is.

What are you British?:D

[BigDFan5]

Oh and HH here is a link to the "2 and 3rd string scrubs" he played in the Baltimore game

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20041121_DAL@BAL

Notice the guys making the tackles on Hensons drive.

Dallas Cowboys at 9:46, (1st play from scrimmage 9:41)
1-10-DAL 20 (9:41) 21-J.Jones up the middle to DAL 26 for 6 yards (52-R.Lewis, 57-B.Scott).
2-4-DAL 26 (9:09) 21-J.Jones right end to DAL 27 for 1 yard (92-M.Kemoeatu).
3-3-DAL 27 (8:30) 7-D.Henson pass to 18-T.Copper to DAL 33 for 6 yards (24-C.Fuller). P10
1-10-DAL 33 (7:58) 7-D.Henson pass to 36-D.Barnes to DAL 33 for no gain (20-E.Reed).
2-10-DAL 33 (7:18) 21-J.Jones right guard to DAL 35 for 2 yards (57-B.Scott).
3-8-DAL 35 (6:46) 7-D.Henson pass incomplete to 18-T.Copper.
PENALTY on BLT-94-M.Douglas, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 35 - No Play.
3-3-DAL 40 (6:38) 21-J.Jones left tackle to DAL 47 for 7 yards (57-B.Scott). R11
1-10-DAL 47 (5:57) 7-D.Henson pass to 81-Q.Morgan to BLT 42 for 11 yards (28-G.Baxter). P12
1-10-BLT 42 (5:33) 7-D.Henson pass to 19-K.Johnson to BLT 29 for 13 yards. P13
1-10-BLT 29 (5:05) 21-J.Jones up the middle to BLT 25 for 4 yards (52-R.Lewis, 57-B.Scott).
2-6-BLT 25 (4:32) 21-J.Jones up the middle to BLT 29 for -4 yards (57-B.Scott).
3-10-BLT 29 (3:53) 7-D.Henson pass to 18-T.Copper to BLT 13 for 16 yards (47-W.Demps). P14
1-10-BLT 13 (3:10) 21-J.Jones right tackle to BLT 9 for 4 yards (54-R.Green).
2-6-BLT 9 (2:31) 21-J.Jones up the middle to BLT 10 for -1 yards (96-A.Thomas).
Two-Minute Warning
3-7-BLT 10 (2:00) 7-D.Henson up the middle to BLT 3 for 7 yards (56-E.Hartwell). R15
1-3-BLT 3 (1:22) 21-J.Jones left tackle to BLT 1 for 2 yards (57-B.Scott, 28-G.Baxter).
2-1-BLT 1 (:43) 7-D.Henson pass to 85-J.Robinson for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. P16
3-B.Cundiff extra point is GOOD, Center-85-J.Robinson, Holder-7-D.Henson.
DAL 10 BLT 30, 16 plays, 80 yards, 1 penalty, 9:06 drive, 14:20 elapsed

[BigDFan5]

What are you British?:D

Buc rubbing off lol

[SultanOfSix]

Nobody is giving his opinion any credence, just exposing it for the agenda driven nonsence it is.

I understand that you're not doing it explicitly. All I'm saying is that it's sufficient to say, "you never saw the games, how can your comments on his progress have any credence whatsoever?"

[superpunk]

Too many defencive starters shown there BigD....

[Little Jr]

Would you stop watching the Boys if Henson ever became the starter ? You seem to have serious hate for the guy.



I know this question wasnt directed at me but I'll answer it. No I wouldnt.

I blame JJ for all this. He's had 6 years now to get a young QUALITY NFL QB. Instead he goes out and brings in MLB rejects on the cheap. It's been so bad for Cowboy fans that we actually try to convince each other that these guys are IT and none of them were/are.


I cant believe we actually debate/debated over these guys.

[superpunk]

I cant believe we actually debate/debated over these guys.

They play for the Dallas Cowboys, right?

Why wouldn't we?

[big dog cowboy]

He threw no INTs last week, then he throws 1 this week, has a fumble, and completes 50% of his passes.

That's not progress, thats floundering in a talent pool not worthy of American play.

Try again scooter
You have to see the game before making a comment like that. Because it is very obvious your conclusions are way off base.

[superpunk]

You have to see the game before making a comment like that. Because it is very obvious your conclusions are way off base.

Shut it - http://www.able2uk.com/Scooter.jpg.

[BigDFan5]

Too many defencive starters shown there BigD....

I was looking for the scrubs but couldnt find them, I guess they didn;t actually play that game. I guess HH was wrong, who would have guessed.

[BigDFan5]

I know this question wasnt directed at me but I'll answer it. No I wouldnt.

I blame JJ for all this. He's had 6 years now to get a young QUALITY NFL QB. Instead he goes out and brings in MLB rejects on the cheap. It's been so bad for Cowboy fans that we actually try to convince each other that these guys are IT and none of them were/are.


I cant believe we actually debate/debated over these guys.

Which QB pver the past 6 years could we have gotten without making a big trade

[Little Jr]

They play for the Dallas Cowboys, right?

Why wouldn't we?


Well, I never say why there was ever a debate over Q and Hutch and they're both out of the league. Not trying to THUMP MY CHEST as you would call it but I was right. I see the same in Hensons future. Although if BP leaves after this year and I think he will, he'll probally hire another yes man and Henson will be the starting QB.

[big dog cowboy]

Shut it - http://www.able2uk.com/Scooter.jpg.
:laugh2:

[Little Jr]

Which QB pver the past 6 years could we have gotten without making a big trade

If a trade is necessary to bring in a young qulity NFL QB then we should had done it. 6 years is plenty of time.

[big dog cowboy]

If a trade is necessary to bring in a young qulity NFL QB then we should had done it. 6 years is plenty of time.
The problem with that is there is no sure thing. It is a 'darn if you do' and 'darn if you don't' situation.

[BigDFan5]

If a trade is necessary to bring in a young qulity NFL QB then we should had done it. 6 years is plenty of time.

Who was readily availiable? what FA was there, or what QB at our draft pick?

[iceberg]

The problem with that is there is no sure thing. It is a 'darn if you do' and 'darn if you don't' situation.

and when aikman retired i said we'd go through our scrubs like the sweeny's, peulluers and hogebooms till we hit it again. 6 years? hell, there are some franchises who don't EVER get *that* type of a qb and we get upset if it's not in a few years. : )

[Little Jr]

Who was readily availiable? what FA was there, or what QB at our draft pick?


At out draft pick? None. Doenst mean we couldnt trade up to get any the QB's that have came out the past 6 years. We could had signed Delhomme. He would had been better than what we had/have.


If any of them would had failed I would had a lot more respect for JJ for at least trying oppose to getting MLB rejects on the cheap. In Hensons case we actually gave a 3rd for him.

[big dog cowboy]

We could had signed Delhomme. He would had been better than what we had/have.


That is pure 20/20 hindsight right now. Any team could have signed him....not just the Cowboys. At that time, he was just another free agent QB. Who knew it would turn out to be pretty decent?

[BigDFan5]

At out draft pick? None. Doenst mean we couldnt trade up to get any the QB's that have came out the past 6 years. We could had signed Delhomme. He would had been better than what we had/have.

Personally I am not a Delhomme fan, and he is not better than bledsoe IMO.

But at the time Delhomme was a lifetime backup and we made an offer but didnt go higher for an unproven guy. Trading up takes draft picks for a few years we had no 1st's to trade up. other times would have taken future firsts to get up. Its easy to say just trade up but it takes alot and most times is not worth it.



If any of them would had failed I would had a lot more respect for JJ for at least trying oppose to getting MLB rejects on the cheap. In Hensons case we actually gave a 3rd for him.


But if they would have failed the team would be in horrible shape having given up multiple picks and future firsts to get someone who busted. JJ would be crucified

and in Hensons case he is developing and showing some progress. This is good for the Cowboys no matter what your personal opinion of him is.

But the moral of the story is you are mad JJ hasnt gotten a "real" QB in 6 years and yet you admit there were no real QBs to get.

[blindzebra]

The mistake wasn't the past 6 years, it was the 4 years before that in how we handled QB.

We had Aikman with big bucks, Garrett the very cheap 3rd guy/QB coach in training, and than a bunch of cut former starters like Peete, Kosar and Cunningham.

We needed to draft Aikman's replacement in 96-98, we didn't. We gave up draft picks for Galloway that could have been used on a young QB, forcing us to reach on Carter and hope for the next Warner-story with Hutchinson...Henson IS NOT the equivalent of Hutch, and it's agenda driven to keep making that comparison.

[cowboyeric8]

HH thinks he is something because he got All-District, lol, now thats funny. :laugh2:

HH, while you were giving Cunningham props we were actually watching the game, so please don't post your idiotic crap.

Thanks

[Little Jr]

That is pure 20/20 hindsight right now. Any team could have signed him....not just the Cowboys. At that time, he was just another free agent QB. Who knew it would turn out to be pretty decent?


Yes, another FA QB that at least had NFL experience. Not MLB experience.

[theebs]

I am uploading the video of henson right now...I will have it up either in about an hour or tomorrow morning.

[Little Jr]

Personally I am not a Delhomme fan, and he is not better than bledsoe IMO..

Well I think he as good. But I'm happy with Bledsoe right now. I was talking about young guys we could have had.

But at the time Delhomme was a lifetime backup and we made an offer but didnt go higher for an unproven guy. Trading up takes draft picks for a few years we had no 1st's to trade up. other times would have taken future firsts to get up. Its easy to say just trade up but it takes alot and most times is not worth it.


He was more porven than Hutch and Carter. More proven than Henson and we gave up a 3rd for him.

Had to edit this part. As far as NFL game experience goes he was not more proven than Carter. There were high school QB's I would had taken before Cater though.




But if they would have failed the team would be in horrible shape having given up multiple picks and future firsts to get someone who busted. JJ would be crucified.


At least he would had tried. He's being crucified now. Whats the difference.

and in Hensons case he is developing and showing some progress. This is good for the Cowboys no matter what your personal opinion of him is..

Like you stated, we have a difference of opinion on that one.

But the moral of the story is you are mad JJ hasnt gotten a "real" QB in 6 years and yet you admit there were no real QBs to get.


Where did I admit that at. I admitted there wanst any where we picked. Thats all I admitted.

[Little Jr]

The mistake wasn't the past 6 years, it was the 4 years before that in how we handled QB..

Couldnt agree more.


Henson IS NOT the equivalent of Hutch, and it's agenda driven to keep making that comparison.


Well, he is better than Hutch. But is that really saying much. As of right now he's done no more than Hutch did in the NFL.

[ConcordCowboy]

Henson impressed me today.

Nice mobility and throwing on the move...Avoiding pressure...Hitting guys in stride...All nice things.

Not a stat day...But Henson played well today.

I really liked when he ran for the First down and dove for it...:D

[Rudy]

I just watched all of Henson's snaps, and It seemed as if almost all first half he never got a good hand on the ball off the snap. Did it seem like that to anyone else? The second half seemed to be fine, in that regard at least. I think Henson could be good, but he sure does advertise his strong arm with all those overthrows. He wasn't helped out too much by all those dropped passes, plus that offensive line seems to have some trouble pass blocking. I like that running back, Jackson.

[jja050575]

Yes, I'm a bit disappointed in Henson so far. His long passes are too tall/long.


Ya'll need to realize he only got to start playing with these people in the last two months. He didn't even know them before that. The more the team gels as the season goes on the better they will be.

[CrazyCowboy]

Not a bad game........I taped it.......Henson had some impressive throws

[burmafrd]

Those rainbows he threw had nothing to do with the WR.

[DBoys]

In other news, Roger Staubach was WAYYYYYYYYYY overrated.

I mean, I never actually saw him play, but.....


:lmao2: :lmao2:

[The30YardSlant]

In other news, Roger Staubach was WAYYYYYYYYYY overrated.

I mean, I never actually saw him play, but.....

When he retired, Staubach had the highest QB rating IN HISTORY, had been to 4 SBs and had won 2. In other words, numbers backed up his amazing career. You dont need to see him play to know how great he was.

Drew Henson just completed 50% of his passes (terrible no matter what league you are in). I dont need to see him play to know that isnt NFL QB worthy.

[SultanOfSix]

Drew Henson just completed 50% of his passes (terrible no matter what league you are in). I dont need to see him play to know that isnt NFL QB worthy.

Stats are garbage without context, because they don't take into consideration other factors such as dropped passes, tipped passes at the line, or great plays by the defender.

Agenda shrinks credibility.

[superpunk]

Agenda shrinks credibility.

Criticizing a player by looking purely at the stat sheet, while having not actually seen him play, obliterates credibility.

[The30YardSlant]

Stats are garbage without context, because they don't take into consideration other factors such as dropped passes, tipped passes at the line, or great plays by the defender.

Agenda shrinks credibility.

:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.

[BigDFan5]

:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.

You are so full of it. You don't want him to fail but no matter what he does you will dismiss it, You don't want him to succeed either

[Juke99]

Said it before...I'll say it again...


Anyone here who focuses on Henson's stats...to support him...or to detract from him...is engaging in total speculation.

It is my strong opinion that the Cowboys are looking at things other than stats.

If Henson puts up great numbers but does not perform well in the areas the Cowboys are evaluating, the numbers mean nothing.

The converse is true also.

We don't know how he is being evaulated...so judging his performance is pure speculation. Judging his performance by the numbers, IMO, is just silly.

[Juke99]

:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.


Ya see, that's where you lose me.

He's still a part of the team because he must have shown SOMETHING...even if nothing more than raw potential.

They didn't invest a 3rd round pick...and a long contract because he has shown nothing.

[Hostile]

:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.So, basically what you're saying then can be boiled down like this.

Bill Parcells is an idiot. Jerry Jones is an idiot. The Coaching staff of the Cowboys are idiots. The players on offense who say good things about him are idiots. The media who are talking about his potential are idiots. The Coaches in NFL Europe are idiots. You know all.

Gotcha.

:thumbup:

If you're going to bang your drum, you could at least try to play in tune.

[The30YardSlant]

You are so full of it. You don't want him to fail but no matter what he does you will dismiss it, You don't want him to succeed either

WHAT THE HELL HAS HE DONE TO DESERVE PRAISE???????

He has played average at best in NFL Europe, has never shown anything in TC or the preseason, etc. PLEASE, tell what I am dismissing, because I dont anything to dismiss. He hasnt done anything.

[The30YardSlant]

So, basically what you're saying then can be boiled down like this.

Bill Parcells is an idiot. Jerry Jones is an idiot. The Coaching staff of the Cowboys are idiots. The players on offense who say good things about him are idiots. The media who are talking about his potential are idiots. The Coaches in NFL Europe are idiots. You know all.

Gotcha.

:thumbup:

If you're going to bang your drum, you could at least try to play in tune.

Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.

[The30YardSlant]

Ya see, that's where you lose me.

He's still a part of the team because he must have shown SOMETHING...even if nothing more than raw potential.

They didn't invest a 3rd round pick...and a long contract because he has shown nothing.

I'm not taslking about what he COULD do, I'm talking about what he IS doing, which is flopping in the God forsaken NFL Europe.

No one is denying that he has some talent, but then again most NFL players do. It's the fact that he looks lost on the field, has done nothing if not get worse in the last 2 years, and isnt usiong whatever talent he may posses.

[BigDFan5]

WHAT THE HELL HAS HE DONE TO DESERVE PRAISE???????

He has played average at best in NFL Europe, has never shown anything in TC or the preseason, etc. PLEASE, tell what I am dismissing, because I dont anything to dismiss. He hasnt done anything.

Why do you praise Tony Romo? Even going as far as to making up stats to say he was better?

Henson has shown improvment in his game. He has shown good mobility and decision making. He has shown he can lead a team down field and can win.

These are all positive things yet here you are with the same agenda

[BigDFan5]

Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.

Henson asked to go to Europe he was not "sent"

Prove he isnt a bust? He is still on the team that pretty much solves it. Now LIST 100 reasons why he is number them 1-100 no repeats we will be waiting

[Doomsday101]

Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.

Dallas is going to give him time to develope regardless what you think which is why they gave him a contract that would allow time for development. As for bust then I take it Romo is a bust as well? I don't claim he is the savior that is way too early to know that but the same holds true about being a bust.

[Hostile]

Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.He's wearing a silver helmet with a blue star as opposed to searching for a job at this point.

Proof enough for me that the team and coaching staff don't agree with your assessment that he has shown nothing. If he had shown nothing he'd have been escorted off the Ranch already.

Don't bother with the 100 reasons you think he's a bust. I don't respect your opinions on football enough to bother reading it and I don't need to line a bird cage since I don't have any birds.

[superpunk]

I'm not taslking about what he COULD do, I'm talking about what he IS doing, which is flopping in the God forsaken NFL Europe.

Just so we're abundantly clear on this, how much of Drew Henson's NFL Europe career have you watched again?

[The30YardSlant]

Why do you praise Tony Romo? Even going as far as to making up stats to say he was better?

Henson has shown improvment in his game. He has shown good mobility and decision making. He has shown he can lead a team down field and can win.

These are all positive things yet here you are with the same agenda

Because Tony Romo not only improved from 2004 to 2005, as shown by his position as the #2 QB and his improvement in the preseason games, but Romo looks poised out on the field and doesnt look back to the sidelines after every word he says in the huddle.. Henson had his best preseason games in 2004, and has gotton progressively worse. Romo is CLEARLY the better QB right now, and is doing it with less talent than Henson.

Henson has not improved from 2004 to now.

[blindzebra]

Nors, Hollywood Henderson, Banned_n_Austin, HeavyHitta31...the torch has been passed.

[The30YardSlant]

Dallas is going to give him time to develope regardless what you think which is why they gave him a contract that would allow time for development. As for bust then I take it Romo is a bust as well? I don't claim he is the savior that is way too early to know that but the same holds true about being a bust.

Again, Romo has played better in his allowed time than Henson

[The30YardSlant]

Henson asked to go to Europe he was not "sent"

Prove he isnt a bust? He is still on the team that pretty much solves it. Now LIST 100 reasons why he is number them 1-100 no repeats we will be waiting

Dallas allowed him to go, he could not have gone is we didnt want him to.

[Doomsday101]

Because Tony Romo not only improved from 2004 to 2005, as shown by his position as the #2 QB and his improvement in the preseason games, but Romo looks poised out on the field and doesnt look back to the sidelines after every word he says in the huddle.. Henson had his best preseason games in 2004, and has gotton progressively worse. Romo is CLEARLY the better QB right now, and is doing it with less talent than Henson.

Henson has not improved from 2004 to now.

Tony Romo has not done anything, how many reg season passes has he thrown? what has he done? He beat out a guy who has been away from Football. As is the case with Henson I'm not going to sit here and say Romo is a bust fact is there is not enough info to know that about him as of yet but by the same token there is not a lot of info on Henson as of yet. I do know Henson requested to go to Europe to help him in his developement which is something Romo should have been asking for as well.

[BigDFan5]

Because Tony Romo not only improved from 2004 to 2005, as shown by his position as the #2 QB and his improvement in the preseason games, but Romo looks poised out on the field and doesnt look back to the sidelines after every word he says in the huddle.. Henson had his best preseason games in 2004, and has gotton progressively worse. Romo is CLEARLY the better QB right now, and is doing it with less talent than Henson.

Henson has not improved from 2004 to now.

Thats funny because Henson has shown improvment from last preseason to now anyone who bothers to actually watch the games (IE not you) can tell you this. Last preseason he wad a hurt thumb on his throwing hand and a new motion, maybe that had something to do with his play?

Romo looks poised? I havent seen it (keyword being seen cause I actually watch the games)


How can you say Romo is the better QB "RIGHT NOW" Romo hasnt played since last preseason while Henson is out there getting experience. We wont know who is better RIGHT NOW until pre season

[blindzebra]

Because Tony Romo not only improved from 2004 to 2005, as shown by his position as the #2 QB and his improvement in the preseason games, but Romo looks poised out on the field and doesnt look back to the sidelines after every word he says in the huddle.. Henson had his best preseason games in 2004, and has gotton progressively worse. Romo is CLEARLY the better QB right now, and is doing it with less talent than Henson.

Henson has not improved from 2004 to now.

How would you know, you have not watched?

Credibility...zero.

[BigDFan5]

Dallas allowed him to go, he could not have gone is we didnt want him to.


Yes because we all know that when you said "sent" to Europe you didnt actually mean he was forced to go.

[ConcordCowboy]

He's wearing a silver helmet with a blue star as opposed to searching for a job at this point.

Proof enough for me that the team and coaching staff don't agree with your assessment that he has shown nothing. If he had shown nothing he'd have been escorted off the Ranch already.

Don't bother with the 100 reasons you think he's a bust. I don't respect your opinions on football enough to bother reading it and I don't need to line a bird cage since I don't have any birds.


OUCH! :D

[superpunk]

Moxie!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The30YardSlant]

Tony Romo has not done anything, how many reg season passes has he thrown? what has he done? He beat out a guy who has been away from Football. As is the case with Henson I'm not going to sit here and say Romo is a bust fact is there is not enough info to know that about him as of yet but by the same token there is not a lot of info on Henson as of yet. I do know Henson requested to go to Europe to help him in his developement which is something Romo should have been asking for as well.

Better to suck and not let anyone know than to play and remove all doubt.

Henson's "start" removed all doubt

[BigDFan5]

How would you know, you have not watched?

Credibility...zero.


is it possible to have a negative number in credibility? like -10?

[Doomsday101]

Again, Romo has played better in his allowed time than Henson

Romo lost the job in the 1st year Henson was here so what does that mean? Nothing just as it means nothing that Romo won the job this past season. Both guys are young and developing and time will tell on both guys future. To say Henson is a bust is a joke at this stage just as it would be a joke to say Romo is a bust

[The30YardSlant]

Thats funny because Henson has shown improvment from last preseason to now anyone who bothers to actually watch the games (IE not you) can tell you this. Last preseason he wad a hurt thumb on his throwing hand and a new motion, maybe that had something to do with his play?

Romo looks poised? I havent seen it (keyword being seen cause I actually watch the games)


How can you say Romo is the better QB "RIGHT NOW" Romo hasnt played since last preseason while Henson is out there getting experience. We wont know who is better RIGHT NOW until pre season

Romo led Dallas to 2 come from behind victories late in games (albeit preseason, but for a guy fighting for a roster spot, that's a lot of pressure).

Henson has done.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...........................





















































..................Still waiting

[BigDFan5]

Better to suck and not let anyone know than to play and remove all doubt.

Henson's "start" removed all doubt

A start in which he never trailed? and was the winning QB?

Also yesterday you said the ravens game he was playing backups 2nd and 3rd string. Why did you not reply to the post where you were proven wrong about who played in that game? Wait no need to answer we already know.

[The30YardSlant]

Romo lost the job in the 1st year Henson was here so what does that mean? Nothing just as it means nothing that Romo won the job this past season. Both guys are young and developing and time will tell on both guys future. To say Henson is a bust is a joke at this stage just as it would be a joke to say Romo is a bust

It proves that Romo is getting better and Henson is getting worse

Thanks for proving my point? :confused:

[The30YardSlant]

A start in which he never trailed? and was the winning QB?

Also yesterday you said the ravens game he was playing backups 2nd and 3rd string. Why did you not reply to the post where you were proven wrong about who played in that game? Wait no need to answer we already know.

A start in which the only TD Chicago scored was because of a ball that a 4 year old would have known not to throw

[The30YardSlant]

Translation: "I got nothing, so I'll throw out insults faster than you can say there goes my arguement"

[Doomsday101]

Better to suck and not let anyone know than to play and remove all doubt.

Henson's "start" removed all doubt

Now that is just stupid, Henson is doing what he has to do to develope and getting a chance to go out and play in NFLE is not a bad way to get some live action when your sitting behind a vet and fact is he is not playing bad in Europe right now.

[RCowboyFan]

Wait 15 minutes he will have another

:lmao:

[BigDFan5]

A start in which the only TD Chicago scored was because of a ball that a 4 year old would have known not to throw

that is such BS and you know it.

ALL QBs will throw an INT nothing will change that fact.

So again a start in which he was the winning QB and never trailed

[BigDFan5]

Translation: "I got nothing, so I'll throw out insults faster than you can say there goes my arguement"


Thats sounds exactly like what you do.

[superpunk]

Translation: "I got nothing, so I'll throw out insults faster than you can say there goes my arguement"

Actually, I'm just mocking you now. Sultanofsix is right, why try to talk sense to the senseless? You haven't watched Henson's most recent games. If I hadn't seen Kurt Warner for a few years, I might still think he's the most dynamic QB in the league currently.

But then I'd be wrong, horribly wrong.

Like you.

[Doomsday101]

It proves that Romo is getting better and Henson is getting worse

Thanks for proving my point? :confused:

It proves nothing!! However this thread by you proves a lot and that is you don't have a clue as to what your talking about.

[The30YardSlant]

that is such BS and you know it.

ALL QBs will throw an INT nothing will change that fact.

So again a start in which he was the winning QB and never trailed

No, but that TD that he threw to the wrong team tied it :laugh2:

Suddenly, I know what Bruce Lee must feel like when matched up against a 3rd grade girl with a limp.

[BigDFan5]

It proves nothing!! However this thread by you proves a lot and that is you don't have a clue as to what your talking about.


As if we needed more proof.

[superpunk]

I think it's hilarious when my dog chases it's tail.

But this just makes me sad....:(

[blindzebra]

Better to suck and not let anyone know than to play and remove all doubt.

Henson's "start" removed all doubt

How did Aikman look in his first start?

How do 99.9% of all rookie QBs look in their first start?

My God, if our economic system was based on cluelessness, you'd be Bill Gates.:lmao2:

[The30YardSlant]

Actually, I'm just mocking you now. Sultanofsix is right, why try to talk sense to the senseless? You haven't watched Henson's most recent games. If I hadn't seen Kurt Warner for a few years, I might still think he's the most dynamic QB in the league currently.

But then I'd be wrong, horribly wrong.

Like you.

Kurt Warner' stats prove he isnt still a dynamic QB

Check




































Mate

[BigDFan5]

No, but that TD that he threw to the wrong team tied it :laugh2:

Suddenly, I know what Bruce Lee must feel like when matched up against a 3rd grade girl with a limp.


Translation: "I got nothing, so I'll throw out insults faster than you can say there goes my arguement"

[Doomsday101]

"Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season."


How much garbage time did Romo have last season? None, I guess that means Bill does not think much of him and with our last game in 2005 had no meaning so tell us why did Bill not play Romo?

[superpunk]

Kurt Warner' stats prove he isnt still a dynamic QB

Check

But....but.....he led the league's number 1 passing attack, when healthy last year!!!!

First the setup....and he trots right in...

[BigDFan5]

Kurt Warner' stats prove he isnt still a dynamic QB

Check




































Mate


The stats show the Cardinals had the #1 passing attack in the league last year. Were they that good on offense? or are the stats showing something that is not reality?

[superpunk]

The stats show the Cardinals had the #1 passing attack in the league last year. Were they that good on offense? or are the stats showing something that is not reality?

I almost felt bad about setting him up for that.

Almost.

:lmao:

All right....I didn't feel bad at all.:lmao2:

[BigDFan5]

I almost felt bad about setting him up for that.

Almost.

:lmao:

All right....I didn't feel bad at all.:lmao2:


He will skip it same as him skipping the fact that henson was playing the Ravens starters not backups

[superpunk]

He will skip it same as him skipping the fact that henson was playing the Ravens starters not backups

What is that....twice now that's been glossed over? I'm dying to know when Ray Lewis and Ed Reed were demoted....

[Juke99]

Just a reminder....

4) Personal attacks or insults directed at other members of this site are not allowed. Name calling and commentary about another user's family, intelligence, etc. are all considered personal in nature. Violating this guideline will result in your account being suspended or banned.

We're right on the edge here... http://us.inmagine.com/168nwm/photodisc/pdil116/pdil116039.jpg

[superpunk]

Is that like a preemptive strike, Juke? LOL, didn't notice any rule breakin.....

[Hostile]

Remember a season about 3 years ago where Peyton Manning had 4 or 5 passes intercepted and returned for TDs? I think that was part of Mora's "playoffs" tirade.

It never would have donned on me that Peyton Manning, widely acknowledged as the smartest QB in the NFL, threw passes a 4 year old would know better than to throw.

Every QB in the NFL who gets a chance to play the game will at some time or another throw a pass out in the flat. If said pass gets picked off the odds are really good that is a score the opposite way.

Then again, I'm not saying anything that knowledgable football fans don't already know. That pass is more dangerous than a 30 yard slant.

[BigDFan5]

Is that like a preemptive strike, Juke? LOL, didn't notice any rule breakin.....


http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=813823&postcount=223

[Juke99]

Is that like a preemptive strike, Juke? LOL, didn't notice any rule breakin.....


I saw the word "stupid" being tossed around.

NG.

That's a rule breaker.

Ya know, "ounce of prevention...."

Let's keep it civil folks.

[iceberg]

Nors, Hollywood Henderson, Banned_n_Austin, HeavyHitta31...the torch has been passed.

it's like they say - take one out, another will just take their place.

[Bledsoe4MVP]

it's like they say - take one out, another will just take their place.

Please don't feed the trolls!:cool:

:laugh1: :laugh2: :lmao2: :lmao:

[Hostile]

The irony meter just spiked.

[iceberg]

Please don't feed the trolls!:cool:

:laugh1: :laugh2: :lmao2: :lmao:

one day you're going to make sense.

i just hope i'm there for it cause i'd hate to miss it.

[BigDFan5]

Please don't feed the trolls!:cool:

:laugh1: :laugh2: :lmao2: :lmao:


You're not hungry?

[Bledsoe4MVP]

one day you're going to make sense.

i just hope i'm there for it cause i'd hate to miss it.

I'm just kidding around with you man, I know what you mean....the trolling has gotton out of hand lately....it's almost like getting rid off some mafia crime boss or drug kingpin.....take one out, and a 100 more are waiting to replace him as the top dog.:cool:

If we all stick together we can slay these trolls one by one and make this a safer place to post! :cool:

[5Stars]

I'm just kidding around with you man, I know what you mean....the trolling has gotton out of hand lately....it's almost like getting rid off some mafia crime boss or drug kingpin.....take one out, and a 100 more are waiting to replace him as the top dog.:cool:

If we all stick together we can slay these trolls one by one and make this a safer place to post! :cool:

I think what that iceberg poster is saying, maybe, is that you are percieved to be on the brink of a troll yourself, with all the Bledsoe, BledStud, GodStud, StudSoe, stuff you always come up with!

Man, not even karter goes to that length to get his point across! :cool:

[iceberg]

I think what that iceberg poster is saying, maybe, is that you are percieved to be on the brink of a troll yourself, with all the Bledsoe, BledStud, GodStud, StudSoe, stuff you always come up with!

Man, not even karter goes to that length to get his point across! :cool:

but i do know the name is after a resturaunt - NOT our rings. : ) even a 'berg can learn. :laugh2:

[Seven]

Wait! Where'd he go! This CAN'T happen! Not right now!
I got my popcorn and snacks and stuff right here and was ready to settle in for a few more pages. I can't have this. Here let me get the ball rollin' again.....
Henson< Hutch.
Hos and Super know nothing about football.
'Berg is completely content with our offensive line.
Juke couldn't make a sig pic to save his life.
Big D neglects his wife for the Zone
I miss Nors..................

[iceberg]

Wait! Where'd he go! This CAN'T happen! Not right now!
I got my popcorn and snacks and stuff right here and was ready to settle in for a few more pages. I can't have this. Here let me get the ball rollin' again.....
Henson< Hutch.
Hos and Super know nothing about football.
'Berg is completely content with our offensive line.
Juke couldn't make a sig pic to save his life.
Big D neglects his wife for the Zone
I miss Nors..................

well, not completely...

[Juke99]

Wait! Where'd he go! This CAN'T happen! Not right now!
I got my popcorn and snacks and stuff right here and was ready to settle in for a few more pages. I can't have this. Here let me get the ball rollin' again.....
Henson< Hutch.
Hos and Super know nothing about football.
'Berg is completely content with our offensive line.
Juke couldn't make a sig pic to save his life.
Big D neglects his wife for the Zone
I miss Nors..................


You forgot to mention how Adam is cap clueless.

:)