Mick on the ticket this morning w/D&M

[Jethro75]

I heard Mick this morning on the ticket. He spoke with Jerry last week and something caught his attention. Jerry was talking about the 18th pick and that if a CB was to fall to 18 (Jerry didn't name anyone) that they would draft the CB and move someone already on the team to FS. Mick mentioned Henry,Glenn and Jac Reeves. I could see Dallas moving Henry to FS but his salary sure would be high for an FS. I would think Glenn could do the job, but is he more valuable as the 3rd corner?

Who's Jerry thinking of at corner in the draft? I know Jimmy Williams has some issues but is he slated that high in the draft?

Anyway I didn't see a thread mentioning this so I thought I'd let you guys know what I heard.


Go Pokes!

[CrazyCowboy]

Interesting......hum

[Bob Sacamano]

the corner will probably be Jacque Reeves or Nate Jones then, Jones actually was practicing as the nickel S last year, Glenn is too short to play FS and Henry is being paid too much, and Newman is definitely not moving to FS

[Galian Beast]

I heard Mick this morning on the ticket. He spoke with Jerry last week and something caught his attention. Jerry was talking about the 18th pick and that if a CB was to fall to 18 (Jerry didn't name anyone) that they would draft the CB and move someone already on the team to FS. Mick mentioned Henry,Glenn and Jac Reeves. I could see Dallas moving Henry to FS but his salary sure would be high for an FS. I would think Glenn could do the job, but is he more valuable as the 3rd corner?

Who's Jerry thinking of at corner in the draft? I know Jimmy Williams has some issues but is he slated that high in the draft?

Anyway I didn't see a thread mentioning this so I thought I'd let you guys know what I heard.


Go Pokes!

It is mostly just a smokescreen, but he is probably talking about Jimmy Williams. He is the only cornerback that could even go around 18.

And Henry isn't too expensive at free safety if you're paying nothing for your 2nd cornerback. Why do you think we didn't use any other corner at safety last year? Its because the only suitable one is Anthony Henry, who was needed to play right corner.

Now if we could find a replacement for him... then we'd have quite the secondary. And quite the depth at cornerback.

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Wasn't Aaron Glenn the one who got beat deep a few times last year, even in the first Washington Game when Roy William's took the flack for the missed coverage? That cost us that game. Is the the guy they want to move to FS? :confused:

I'd rather have Henry at FS if given the choice of Henry or Glenn at FS. But if given the choice of having Henry at CB or FS, I'd rahter have Henry at CB. I woudn't mind Reeves at FS - kid showed good coverage-ability last year.

AF

[Charles]

I heard Mick this morning on the ticket. He spoke with Jerry last week and something caught his attention. Jerry was talking about the 18th pick and that if a CB was to fall to 18 (Jerry didn't name anyone) that they would draft the CB and move someone already on the team to FS. Mick mentioned Henry,Glenn and Jac Reeves. I could see Dallas moving Henry to FS but his salary sure would be high for an FS. I would think Glenn could do the job, but is he more valuable as the 3rd corner?

Who's Jerry thinking of at corner in the draft? I know Jimmy Williams has some issues but is he slated that high in the draft?

Anyway I didn't see a thread mentioning this so I thought I'd let you guys know what I heard.


Go Pokes!:muttley: The phonelines between Valley Ranch and Houston have been burning up lately

[TheHustler]

Interesting. Wouldn't mind moving Reeves there, but then we'll need a replacement for Glenn in the next couple years...

[DBoys]

The only guy I think good enough would be Reeves. He played good last year.

[AbeBeta]

Wasn't Aaron Glenn the one who got beat deep a few times last year, even in the first Washington Game when Roy William's took the flack for the missed coverage? That cost us that game. Is the the guy they want to move to FS? :confused:

Aaron Glenn had decent coverage on Santana Moss. Moss was one of the best receivers in the league last year -- he made lots of guys look awful.

You can say Glenn is too small but to suggest he doesn't have the coverage skills for FS is silly.

[Shaun]

Aaron Glenn had decent coverage on Santana Moss. Moss was one of the best receivers in the league last year -- he made lots of guys look awful.

You can say Glenn is too small but to suggest he doesn't have the coverage skills for FS is silly.

Outside of one game, Glenn had a pretty good season. I can't think of any Nickel corners I'd trade him for.

[Gaede]

I'm not fond on spending another first rounder on a defensive back.

But, if an excellent player falls, then maybe it's not such a terrible idea. BPA is usually good for the team

[jbsg02]

glenn seems kinda small for a FS. Reeves might be able to switch.

[MDCowboy]

I heard Mick this morning on the ticket. He spoke with Jerry last week and something caught his attention. Jerry was talking about the 18th pick and that if a CB was to fall to 18 (Jerry didn't name anyone) that they would draft the CB and move someone already on the team to FS. Mick mentioned Henry,Glenn and Jac Reeves. I could see Dallas moving Henry to FS but his salary sure would be high for an FS. I would think Glenn could do the job, but is he more valuable as the 3rd corner?

Who's Jerry thinking of at corner in the draft? I know Jimmy Williams has some issues but is he slated that high in the draft?

Anyway I didn't see a thread mentioning this so I thought I'd let you guys know what I heard.


Go Pokes!

I think the corner to be moved to FS is Henry. He may be better suited for that spot, even though he is being paid CB $$, but I could care less about that. He has played FS some w/ the Browns, and I think that his groin injuries last year may be related to the sudden stop & go motions that a corner needs to make. I remember that Parcells was supposedly frustrated with him at the end of last year because he was not healthy enough to play corner, so maybe they are concerned that a similar injury may occur this year and that it would be a good idea to move him.

They may be looking at Cromartie, or Jason Allen as a CB at 18 .

[jbsg02]

I think if you're gonna draft Jason Allen you might as well just put him at FS.

[dcfanatic]

Of all the corners on this team who I think fits the profile of a FS it's Henry. He's big enough and he the speed to move side to side in coverage. His biggest asset as a corner is his physical presence at the line of scrimmage which is effective in the 3-4 defense.

We should also remember that he had that groin thing last season which he would have less of a chance of getting again because he wouldn't be back peddling and twisting as much at Free Safety.

But, I don't think Henry wants to be a FS at this point in his career. Maybe three years from now he might make the switch as a lot of corners do when they lose some of their speed.

[Sandyf]

I smell smoke in the area at 18 when Jerry speaks.

[Cowboy4ever]

Of all the corners on this team who I think fits the profile of a FS it's Henry. He's big enough and he the speed to move side to side in coverage. His biggest asset as a corner is his physical presence at the line of scrimmage which is effective in the 3-4 defense.

We should also remember that he had that groin thing last season which he would have less of a chance of getting again because he wouldn't be back peddling and twisting as much at Free Safety.

But, I don't think Henry wants to be a FS at this point in his career. Maybe three years from now he might make the switch as a lot of corners do when they lose some of their speed.

Who cares? He is under contract, if he helps the team best at FS,, they play him there, whether he likes it or not.

But I am not sure we would move him either way.. maybe glenn or Reeves and dont forget Justin B. I think we will be ok in the DB area this year.

[Hiero]

It is mostly just a smokescreen, but he is probably talking about Jimmy Williams. He is the only cornerback that could even go around 18.

And Henry isn't too expensive at free safety if you're paying nothing for your 2nd cornerback. Why do you think we didn't use any other corner at safety last year? Its because the only suitable one is Anthony Henry, who was needed to play right corner.

Now if we could find a replacement for him... then we'd have quite the secondary. And quite the depth at cornerback.
So if we sign Jimmy Williams at #18 to play CB for us, that is going to be paying nothing? Ya right, he is an arrogant kid who will want a lot, and then heaven forbid we have to resign him.

[Tenkamenin]

Wasn't Aaron Glenn the one who got beat deep a few times last year, even in the first Washington Game when Roy William's took the flack for the missed coverage? That cost us that game. Is the the guy they want to move to FS? :confused:

I'd rather have Henry at FS if given the choice of Henry or Glenn at FS. But if given the choice of having Henry at CB or FS, I'd rahter have Henry at CB. I woudn't mind Reeves at FS - kid showed good coverage-ability last year.

AF

Aaron Glenn sure was a blessing to have when Anthony Henry went down in the middle of the season. He was overall solid at corner, the guy definitely has the cover skills.

[silver]

I smell smoke in the area at 18 when Jerry speaks.
misinformation. but coming from JJ you can see his tail wagging

[AbeBeta]

I think we should never ever listen to Jerry regarding the draft.

Why would he say this? Is it because he wants a teams like the Chiefs or Pats -- who both need a corner -- to think that a corner is not going to fall to them and either a) jump ahead of us snag one -- thus pushing a guy we want down the board or b) give us a 4th rounder for sliding down a couple of picks? Or does he just really want to let other teams know what is going on in our war room?

Jerry isn't stupid. He's thinking about possible trades and using his extensive media coverage set them up

[Pabst]

Repeat after me:

Cornerback is more important then Safety. Cornerback is more important then Safety. etc..

As much as I would like to see a mid-priced vet at FS, I hope the Cowboys don't address that need with the 18 overall pick. That's spending your top draft pick on the secondary for 3/4 years.

That's a lot of steak back in the secondary, when you consider Henrys salary. Sometimes you need to have a bit of hamburger in one area, so you can have a nice juicy T-Bone at another. You can't have filet mignons at every starter spot, you know.

Personally, I'd love to see the Cowboys draft a DT first. IMO, the two lines are where you need the most "steak."

[Pottsville Maroons]

he discussed this quote by Jerry in a little more detail in his "Finally Feelin' a Draft" article.

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52937

I hope it's a smokescreen and that SOLB or OT is still their top priorities.

However it is an interesting concept. Glenn isn't getting any younger and Henry did have health problems last year. I agree that it is a whole lot of money to tie up in the secondary. I don't understand the harm of playing Reeves back there now and bringing Davis in as FS when we need 4 corners. You'd still have Reeves in as the 4th corner and only use Davis as a Dime FS.

[AmericasTeam]

If Henry would restructure I would love to see him move to FS. I think he is a significantly better FS than CB. When people were raving about his great play to start the 05 season I was cringing, because my opinion was his lack of speed was exposed,but more often than not the QB failed to connect with the WR thus not magnifying the problem.

[Chuck 54]

Glenn could not play FS...no way, no how, no way. He's at a point in his career when he can't really even handle being on the field every down, much less a more physical position like FS.

[Idgit]

If Henry would restructure I would love to see him move to FS. I think he is a significantly better FS than CB. When people were raving about his great play to start the 05 season I was cringing, because my opinion was his lack of speed was exposed,but more often than not the QB failed to connect with the WR thus not magnifying the problem.

Then you were cringing at shadows, my friend. Henry was playing unbelievably well at corner the start of the season.

[AbeBeta]

If Henry would restructure I would love to see him move to FS.

Yeah. I just signed a huge contract. I'm going to then cut my salary so I can play FS. Yeah. Sure.

[theebs]

the corner will probably be Jacque Reeves or Nate Jones then, Jones actually was practicing as the nickel S last year, Glenn is too short to play FS and Henry is being paid too much, and Newman is definitely not moving to FS


Jacques reeves was the guy parcells talked about playing safety in the nickel last year. That never was possible because pile took those snaps and then after henry was injured against arizona reeves had to stay at corner.

Reeves has the size and agility to play free safety, plus he has the salary for it!

[MONT17]

if they sign TY LAW they can still go BPA... trade up or trade down... Ty LAW allows this D to go into the season as is, everything else is gravy...

[jazzcat22]

It is mostly just a smokescreen, but he is probably talking about Jimmy Williams. He is the only cornerback that could even go around 18.

Could just be a simple smokescreen all together. Getting other teams to think we are looking CB and we are really looking LB or OT.

A lot of BS flies at this time of year to throw other teams off.
What was Mick saying before, do you really want all your top paid players to be DB's.

[PacoReloaded]

Who's Jerry thinking of at corner in the draft? I know Jimmy Williams has some issues but is he slated that high in the draft?Uggh, I'm getting the feeling that we'll be drafting Jimmy Williams (which I'm hoping) or Tye Hill.. uggh.