FA's, Draft...What would make you happy?

[SteveOS]

Trying to keep this thread realistic (No, we won't trade Houston for the #1 pick), who would you like to see the Cowboys draft and bring in via free agency?

[SteveOS]

I'd have to go w/ Lawson in the 1st (Hopefully he's there). In free agency, I think there will be a few names pop up after June 1st, the Boys might fill some needs there.

[Doomsday101]

I like Lawson and think he is a very good pass rush but not a great run stopper. Myself I like Carpenter or Greenway a bit more because at least in my opinion they are better all around LB. While Lawson is an undersized DE who will have to learn the LB position much like Ware is having to. Believe me if Dallas were to get Lawson I would not be upset but he would not be my 1st selection. Let the Bullets fly:laugh2:

[AmishCowboy]

Carpenter in 1st round, then sign a newly Sobered up Coleman, then hopefully someone like McNeill will fall to us in the 2nd.

[Alexander]

I like Lawson and think he is a very good pass rush but not a great run stopper. Myself I like Carpenter or Greenway a bit more because at least in my opinion they are better all around LB. While Lawson is an undersized DE who will have to learn the LB position much like Ware is having to. Believe me if Dallas were to get Lawson I would not be upset but he would not be my 1st selection. Let the Bullets fly:laugh2:

Lawson has dabbled at LBer if I am not mistaken. He has played end and knows how to fight off blocks. Greenway lets people get in his face or he tries to run around them and doesn't play the physical style we ask our linebackers to play. I would take Lawson over Greenway every day of the week because even though he isn't as seasoned, he is more physical and not like a pumped up safety trying to play 3-4 linebacker.

If we were running the 4-3, it would be Greenway by a mile over all of them.

[Alexander]

Carpenter in 1st round, then sign a newly Sobered up Coleman, then hopefully someone like McNeill will fall to us in the 2nd.

Kiper has McNeill falling to us in his mock.

That means we have no chance at him. :(

[Doomsday101]

Lawson has dabbled at LBer if I am not mistaken. He has played end and knows how to fight off blocks. Greenway lets people get in his face or he tries to run around them and doesn't play the physical style we ask our linebackers to play. I would take Lawson over Greenway every day of the week because even though he isn't as seasoned, he is more physical and not like a pumped up safety trying to play 3-4 linebacker.

If we were running the 4-3, it would be Greenway by a mile over all of them.

And Lawson has some negitives in his game just like every pick. He does great rushing the passer but he is not much of a run stopper and tends to get pushed around when facing the running game. As I said if Dallas took Lawson I would not have a problem with it but the fact is even the 1st pick in this draft will have some question marks on him and Lawson has them as well. I think Greenway and Carpenter are both better all around LB vs run or pass than Lawson and I have watched each guy over the course of their careers I think Lawson is the better pass rusher in the group but I want more than just a guy rushing the passer I think stopping the run is just as critical especially in the NFC East.

[garyv]

My thoughts are Manny Lawson but my heart says the best pick if available is Winston Justice, OL from USC. I would be excited if they could land three starters like Justice on the OL, a Linebacker and a Free Safety like Oat Watkins. I would like to trade some 2007 picks in order to add picks in this years draft and feel some holes.

[garyv]

Oops not Oat Watkins....Pat Watkins

[dbair1967]

would love to see us get Winston Justice at 18, maybe somebody like Tenn OLB Parys Harralson in rd 2 and then a decent S prospect in rd 3 (Watkins, Manning if either are there)

Justice solves the RT problem and would be a massive upgrade for our OL...he has the feet to play LT and could move there in another season or two, allowing us to move Adams to RT...Fabini and Petitti then become good depth

I am surprised more people havent mentioned Harralson because he seems tailor made for OLB in the 3-4...he is an excellent all around player and plays with a mean streak

everyone has already addressed the FS thing

David

[Hostile]

Trade down from 18 and add a day 1 pick. Maybe Deangelo Williams will be there at 18 and we can get the Colts #30 and their 2nd round pick for him. They need to replace Edge.

#30. (from Colts) Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State

#49. Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State

#62. (from Colts) Rod Wright, DT, Texas

#80. Pat Watkins, FS, Florida State

[sadams]

Carpenter in the 1st!

And I still want Arrington!

[Alexander]

Trade down from 18 and add a day 1 pick. Maybe Deangelo Williams will be there at 18 and we can get the Colts #30 and their 2nd round pick for him. They need to replace Edge.

#30. (from Colts) Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State

#49. Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State

#62. (from Colts) Rod Wright, DT, Texas

#80. Pat Watkins, FS, Florida State

Outstanding draft, minus Wright. We could do better with that high of a choice at that point. I might even take the QB there. But Mangold, Watkins and Carpenter would solve a ton of issues. Then you could conceiveably take Johnson and make him a swing guard, which he has done in the past.

[Alexander]

Carpenter in the 1st!

And I still want Arrington!

Why would we want to spend the money on Arrington if we got Carpenter?

[big dog cowboy]

I still want Arrington!
Don't get your hopes up to high.

[DLCassidy]

Trade down from 18 and add a day 1 pick. Maybe Deangelo Williams will be there at 18 and we can get the Colts #30 and their 2nd round pick for him. They need to replace Edge.

#30. (from Colts) Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State

#49. Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State

#62. (from Colts) Rod Wright, DT, Texas

#80. Pat Watkins, FS, Florida State

I like that trade. It's gutsy because of all the teams between 18 and 30 looking for LB's though. It would not surprise me one bit if Indy did want to do that deal if Williams is on the board- I've been talking about this possibility for some time. Carpenter would be an excellent pick at 30, at 18 he feels like a mild reach.

Mangold is the top center prospect so it's very unlikely he slips all the way to 49. I can't see the Jets at 35 passing him over after losing Mawae. This is the spot though to look for a 1st round talent to slip, I just don't think it will be Mangold. The two guys I'd be interested in if they slipped at 49 would be Gabe Watson and Sinorice Moss.

I can't see Wright before the 3rd, but that's me. At 62, at least one, and maybe all three of the top guard prospects could be there. I rank them Joseph, Spencer and Gilles. The reason I like Joseph is he's probably more refined than Spencer and more mobile than Gilles. It also intrigued me that some teams were asking him about the possibility of moving inside to center. All three of those guys have tackle experience. Although it would not be their best position, I like the flexibility it offers us. My concern is Tampa is supposed to love Joseph and could snatch him a few spots ahead of us.

I love Pat Watkins at 80 and he's my 1st choice for the position- ahead of Ko Simpson, ahead of Whitner, ahead of Bullocks, ahead of Allen. With his size, speed and solid head he could end up in a few years as being one of the big steals of this draft mid third. But my gut tells me when the real live buttons get pushed Pat will be off the board before 80. But either way 80 is where I think we'll look for a safety.

[Alexander]

Mangold is the top center prospect so it's very unlikely he slips all the way to 49. I can't see the Jets at 35 passing him over after losing Mawae.

They did sign Trey Teague and they could plug him in at center.

This is the spot though to look for a 1st round talent to slip, I just don't think it will be Mangold. The two guys I'd be interested in if they slipped at 49 would be Gabe Watson and Sinorice Moss.

I agree somewhat. I would like Mangold, I just don't think we are ready to give up on Johnson just yet.

I can't see Wright before the 3rd, but that's me. At 62, at least one, and maybe all three of the top guard prospects could be there. I rank them Joseph, Spencer and Gilles. The reason I like Joseph is he's probably more refined than Spencer and more mobile than Gilles. It also intrigued me that some teams were asking him about the possibility of moving inside to center. All three of those guys have tackle experience. Although it would not be their best position, I like the flexibility it offers us. My concern is Tampa is supposed to love Joseph and could snatch him a few spots ahead of us.

Joesph could go in the first round simply because he is more versatile than Jean-Gilles. So could Spencer. Both players are experienced at tackle and unless you have a plan to start them, you want versatile backup guards who could also play tackle in a pinch. That's why drafting Peterman is hurting so bad because he has no versatility.

I love Pat Watkins at 80 and he's my 1st choice for the position- ahead of Ko Simpson, ahead of Whitner, ahead of Bullocks, ahead of Allen. With his size, speed and solid head he could end up in a few years as being one of the big steals of this draft mid third. But my gut tells me when the real live buttons get pushed Pat will be off the board before 80. But either way 80 is where I think we'll look for a safety.

I think Watkins in the type who is flying under the radar. Bullocks and Whitner are getting an awful lot of publicity right now and some even think the Steelers might take one of them at the bottom of round one. Daniael Manning might not be a bad alternative in the third round. He can play both S and CB. The question with him is his character.

[CowboyWay]

Justice solves the RT problem and would be a massive upgrade for our OL...he has the feet to play LT and could move there in another season or two, allowing us to move Adams to RT...Fabini and Petitti then become good depth



David

:bow:

Exactly. Our O-line has way more holes in it than our LB core. We are one injury away from having Pettiti being a starter. That thought alone gives me chills down my spine.

[Hostile]

Outstanding draft, minus Wright. We could do better with that high of a choice at that point. I might even take the QB there. But Mangold, Watkins and Carpenter would solve a ton of issues. Then you could conceiveably take Johnson and make him a swing guard, which he has done in the past.I was sketchy on Wright as well, but he fills a need. I'd actually love to get an OG there. If we address the OL I think it needs to be LG and C. I'm willing to give RG one more year before I say it's a wreck.

[TheOneROWilliE]

i dont know what we need,or who i want to see the cowboys draft but i think it will be fine whoever they get im sure Bill will make a good choice..i hope

[aceware94]

I got feeling were gonna lose Keith Davis. That's gonna make a big hole in our secondary. There not moving Henry to FS. I think we p/u FS-Whitner in the first. And maybe a low $ vet to fill a void if one arises. I see Burnett/Thorton coming on this year. Personally I would love for them to p/u Manny Lawson. With that 4.4 speed of his coming around the end and an even stronger Demarcus Ware coming off the other edge. Makes for strong push from the outside. And w/ Spears, Ellis, Canty, and Fergy, WHERE'S THE QB TO GO? I'd put up w/ his lack of run support for his first season. Anybody remember the first game last year when LT was running left that whole first quarter in San Diego. But look what happened come mid-late season, Ware held up just fine.

[Dalmations202]

What would I like to see....

Winston Justice (RT) USC falls to the Cowboys at 18. (expect him to start by mid season or sooner)
Davin Joseph (OL) Ok falls to them in the 2nd round. (Rivera now has a backup to push him)
Cedric Griffin (DB) Tx in the 3rd. (FS or move Henry)
Dallas trades Romo to NO for the second pick of the 4th rd because Henson is lighting it up, and they have decided he really is the future.
Dallas takes Thomas Howard (OLB) UTEP in the 4th.
Dallas takes Reggie McNeill (QB/WR/Slash) in the 5th. (added offensive dimension)
Dallas takes Dwayne Slay (DB) TT in the 6th special teams and backup Roy.
Dallas takes Josh Huston (K) Ohio St as the kickoff specialist and grooming.

Dallas then signs Arrington with big money, but only a two year contract to allow time for Burnett and Howard to develop.

Dallas signs a vet QB for the SB run.
Dallas signs Coleman to compete with the youngsters and push them at FS.

[Alexander]

I was sketchy on Wright as well, but he fills a need.

On paper he fits the backup NT need. In real life, I don't think he is any better than Jay Ratliff in terms of being a swing nose/end in the 3-4. He would be an end, not a nose as far as I am concerned. That's why I wouldn't touch him unless he was just sitting there in the third round. We can get a good enough backup nose in the late round, like that Peko fellow or Cofield from Northwestern.

I'd actually love to get an OG there. If we address the OL I think it needs to be LG and C. I'm willing to give RG one more year before I say it's a wreck.

Even if Rivera rebounds to play in the Pro Bowl again, we need a backup who can take his place within two years. We don't have that. I have given up on Peterman. And I am not sold on Kosier as a starter. If Kosier struggles, we are in deep deep trouble. I would rather have a strong backup plan.

I know our OL choices have been retched lately, but I think we really did a poor job of evaluating. I never liked Peterman or Rogers that much. I do think several of the top guards are better because they can play outside as well (Joesph, Spencer, even Colledge).

[DLCassidy]

I was sketchy on Wright as well, but he fills a need. I'd actually love to get an OG there. If we address the OL I think it needs to be LG and C. I'm willing to give RG one more year before I say it's a wreck.

Wright has the talent to be a very good player, but I can't see him at NT which is what we need. The NT either has to be a high motor 300 pound guy or a 330 pound immovable object. Wright isn't either of those- more of a 3-4 DE. He certainly wouldn't start ahead of Spears or Canty. I'm looking for starters or potential starters on day 1.

[sago1]

Lawson would give us a great pass rush opposite Ware but like you said he's not good against the run. If we take him in first, I'm thinking we'll use him in most of rookie season as a situational pass rusher with Singleton in there against the run & short yardage & Burnett alternating with both til we figure out what his best position is--he might also backup Ware--depending on how Kalen Thorton plays. Don't know much about Wimbley except he highly regarded so either Lawson or Wimbley might be off the board before we get chance to pick. What happens if both still on the board, but we opt for someone else; that would cause a stir among Cowboy fans. Frankly, am doubtful we will found a partner to trade down & don't want to go so far that we risk losing the players we really interested in. All we can hope for is that one of the teams before us makes an unusual pick causing 1-4 teams below us to try to move up to grab 18th pick. Other teams seem to occasionally get lucky, it's our turn.

[DLCassidy]

They did sign Trey Teague and they could plug him in at center.

I could be wrong but I can't see that. The Jets are rebuilding. Teague got vet min plus a bonus and he would not be as good as Mangold year 1 IMO.

I agree somewhat. I would like Mangold, I just don't think we are ready to give up on Johnson just yet.

I don't either. But remember Johnson is in the last year of his contract. Drafting Joseph, if he is willing to move inside to center, would be insurance on Johnson not being worth resigning after the season.



Joesph could go in the first round simply because he is more versatile than Jean-Gilles. So could Spencer. Both players are experienced at tackle and unless you have a plan to start them, you want versatile backup guards who could also play tackle in a pinch. That's why drafting Peterman is hurting so bad because he has no versatility.

Anything's possible with the draft but that's kind of high for both those guys. Guards tend to slide a little on draft day. Spencer is still a bit of a raw player. Joseph is more real solid than outstanding. I totally agree about the flexibility issue. BP did not seem happy about Peterman being strictly a LG last year year. For his sake I hope he had a monster offseason conditioning wise. If he doesn't beat out Kozier as the starter at LG he could be on the bubble for even making the roster depending on our draft.



I think Watkins in the type who is flying under the radar. Bullocks and Whitner are getting an awful lot of publicity right now and some even think the Steelers might take one of them at the bottom of round one. Daniael Manning might not be a bad alternative in the third round. He can play both S and CB. The question with him is his character.

Good points.

[Alexander]

Drafting Joseph, if he is willing to move inside to center, would be insurance on Johnson not being worth resigning after the season.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Joesph has played center? I thought he only played tackle and guard.

We also like Chris Chester , who was the Sooners center who also played guard and tackle. Is that who you are referring to?

Anything's possible with the draft but that's kind of high for both those guys. Guards tend to slide a little on draft day. Spencer is still a bit of a raw player. Joseph is more real solid than outstanding. I totally agree about the flexibility issue. BP did not seem happy about Peterman being strictly a LG last year year. For his sake I hope he had a monster offseason conditioning wise. If he doesn't beat out Kozier as the starter at LG he could be on the bubble for even making the roster depending on our draft.

If we draft a guard, Peterman's days are numbered. It is sad, but probably true. We will only carry so many OL. Remember, we will value versatility on the line because we might have to carry an extra player just to kickoff if Vanderjagt cannot do it. The OL is one place you can save if you have the right players in the mix.

[big dog cowboy]

I got feeling were gonna lose Keith Davis. That's gonna make a big hole in our secondary.
Not as big of a hole as you think. Even if Davis stays, he needs replaced at FS.

[DLCassidy]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Joesph has played center? I thought he only played tackle and guard.

We also like Chris Chester , who was the Sooners center who also played guard and tackle. Is that who you are referring to?

Joseph hasn't played center. But I read where a couple teams were asking him about playing there because he's smart, technically sound and has the right build and it got me thinking. It's something he could be groomed for as a pro IMO- we wouldn't need him there for a year min anyway.

Chester is a guy zooming up draft charts, I had him on my list of possible third rounders but he looks like a 2nd round guy now. Not the most physical guy though.



If we draft a guard, Peterman's days are numbered. It is sad, but probably true. We will only carry so many OL. Remember, we will value versatility on the line because we might have to carry an extra player just to kickoff if Vanderjagt cannot do it. The OL is one place you can save if you have the right players in the mix.

Maybe, maybe not. The OL may well get pared a slot because of the kicker situation. But even if it is, if the OG we draft can play tackle in a pinch that could mean Peterman is battling Columbo for a spot. I think it will depend on how Peterman looks in TC- we'll give a 2nd round pick a fair chance to deliver IMO.

Adams-Kozier-Johnson-Rivera-Fabini
Gurode- Petitti- draft pick- (Peterman or Columbo)