Merril Hoge said...

[Cajuncowboy]

I heard him on with Dan Patrick on ESPN radio today and he said he wouldn't draft either Liuenart or Young in the first round. As a matter of fact he said that Young was at best a 4th round talent at the QB at he would "Consider" lienart in the second round but would prefer him in the third.

He said the concerns were with Lienart his poor arm strength and that he couldn't make all the throws. Said that WRs in college are open by 8 yards and in the NFL they are open by 8 inches. He said that was a bad sign.

With Young he talked about his one read and run theory at Texas. He may be able to tell you what he would do by looking at a black board but he doesn't know if he can go throught the progessions at the NFL level.

He said the only QB he would take was Cutler in the first round and then it would be in the second half of the first round. He likes Cutler's arm and his delivery. Didn't have much of a knock on Cutler.

Just thought it was interesting because I have been on the Cutler bandwagon.

Now I think Hodge is a little daffy, maybe played without his helmet once. I don't think Lienart or Young are Not first round talent but I do think Cutler will be the best of the three.

[SilverStarCowboy]

I heard him on with Dan Patrick on ESPN radio today and he said he wouldn't draft either Liuenart or Young in the first round. As a matter of fact he said that Young was at best a 4th round talent at the QB at he would "Consider" lienart in the second round but would prefer him in the third.

He said the concerns were with Lienart his poor arm strength and that he couldn't make all the throws. Said that WRs in college are open by 8 yards and in the NFL they are open by 8 inches. He said that was a bad sign.

With Young he talked about his one read and run theory at Texas. He may be able to tell you what he would do by looking at a black board but he doesn't know if he can go throught the progessions at the NFL level.

He said the only QB he would take was Cutler in the first round and then it would be in the second half of the first round. He likes Cutler's arm and his delivery. Didn't have much of a knock on Cutler.

Just thought it was interesting because I have been on the Cutler bandwagon.

Now I think Hodge is a little daffy, maybe played without his helmet once. I don't think Lienart or Young are Not first round talent but I do think Cutler will be the best of the three.


Yeh I think that is a little far fetched. Noway Norm Chow passes on Lienart when the Titans pick, smoke screens are everywhere right now, remember you can never believe ANYTHING you hear 2 weeks before the Draft!

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

Yeh I think that is a little far fetched. Noway Norm Chow passes on Lienart when the Titans pick, smoke screens are everywhere right now, remember you can never believe ANYTHING you hear 2 weeks before the Draft!
You do know that the draft is this weekend...right? :D

[Cajuncowboy]

Yeh I think that is a little far fetched. Noway Norm Chow passes on Lienart when the Titans pick, smoke screens are everywhere right now, remember you can never believe ANYTHING you hear 2 weeks before the Draft!

I should clarify...

Hodge didn't say they wouldn't be picked early, just that "HE" wouldn't pick them that high. It was his own evaluation of the QBs. He didn't say he thought this would happen.

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

but I do think Cutler will be the best of the three.
I just had a conversation this past weekend with some friends and I said the same thing. They of course believe otherwise. I told them that we will see over the next 5-10 years.

[SilverStarCowboy]

You do know that the draft is this weekend...right? :D


2 weeks yeh....much less two days.:rolleyes:

[DeWare94]

he did say that along time ago tho

[Cajuncowboy]

he did say that along time ago tho

First I heard him say that was today.

[DefendeR]

I heard him on with Dan Patrick on ESPN radio today and he said he wouldn't draft either Liuenart or Young in the first round. As a matter of fact he said that Young was at best a 4th round talent at the QB at he would "Consider" lienart in the second round but would prefer him in the third.

He said the concerns were with Lienart his poor arm strength and that he couldn't make all the throws. Said that WRs in college are open by 8 yards and in the NFL they are open by 8 inches. He said that was a bad sign.

With Young he talked about his one read and run theory at Texas. He may be able to tell you what he would do by looking at a black board but he doesn't know if he can go throught the progessions at the NFL level.

He said the only QB he would take was Cutler in the first round and then it would be in the second half of the first round. He likes Cutler's arm and his delivery. Didn't have much of a knock on Cutler.

Just thought it was interesting because I have been on the Cutler bandwagon.

Now I think Hodge is a little daffy, maybe played without his helmet once. I don't think Lienart or Young are Not first round talent but I do think Cutler will be the best of the three.

Three words:
Post Concussion Syndrome.

[peplaw06]

Yeh I think that is a little far fetched. Noway Norm Chow passes on Lienart when the Titans pick, smoke screens are everywhere right now, remember you can never believe ANYTHING you hear 2 weeks before the Draft!

Obviously Chow's going to suggest that the Titans take Leinart, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see them take Young. Chow's not the one choosing who to draft. He has influence, but the GM and owner are pretty high on Young.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Obviously Chow's going to suggest that the Titans take Leinart, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see them take Young. Chow's not the one choosing who to draft. He has influence, but the GM and owner are pretty high on Young.

Abosolutly noway Matt gets passed Chow, and noway Young is rated better than him on the Titans draft board.

[WoodysGirl]

Well I just read a lil blurb on Prisco's notes that the Titans GM and Owner wants Young, but the coaching staff likes Leinart. Prisco speculates that the GM gave in to the coaching staff's choice of Pac Man Jones last year and you know who that turned out. So this may just go the GM's way this time.

[peplaw06]

Abosolutly noway Matt gets passed Chow, and noway Young is rated better than him on the Titans draft board.

Yeah, okay... I'll just take your word for it.:rolleyes:

[big dog cowboy]

Obviously Chow's going to suggest that the Titans take Leinart, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see them take Young.
On Sportscenter NFL Draft Countdown tonight they said the same thing. Word on the street is the pick is Young.

[baj1dallas]

Hodge's argument about Lienart's arm strength is meaningless. If you can anticipate where the guy is gonna be and get it to the right spot, you don't have to throw it that hard. Just how strong do you think Tom Brady's arm is? Not to mention the guy everybody compares him to...Joe Montana. Hell even Aikmen wasn't really known for his arm strength (although it was probably greater than Lienart's).

As for Young, he's clearly a first round talent. Just gonna take a little time to develop.

[Cajuncowboy]

If Young is there he goes to the Titans.

[SilverStarCowboy]

If Young is there he goes to the Titans.


I'm not taking the bait, Vince may slide to Oakland. Ex Leinart Coach and new Tennesee offensive Coordinator Norm Chow will get his way. He knows Lienarts a smart QB who can run his Offense because he already knows the plays and has been proven successful in it.


The Draft is starting to set up for the Titans to make their Dream pick, Matt Lienart, everything else is just a smoke screen.

[doomsday81]

I heard him on with Dan Patrick on ESPN radio today and he said he wouldn't draft either Liuenart or Young in the first round. As a matter of fact he said that Young was at best a 4th round talent at the QB at he would "Consider" lienart in the second round but would prefer him in the third.

He said the concerns were with Lienart his poor arm strength and that he couldn't make all the throws. Said that WRs in college are open by 8 yards and in the NFL they are open by 8 inches. He said that was a bad sign.

With Young he talked about his one read and run theory at Texas. He may be able to tell you what he would do by looking at a black board but he doesn't know if he can go throught the progessions at the NFL level.

He said the only QB he would take was Cutler in the first round and then it would be in the second half of the first round. He likes Cutler's arm and his delivery. Didn't have much of a knock on Cutler.

Just thought it was interesting because I have been on the Cutler bandwagon.

Now I think Hodge is a little daffy, maybe played without his helmet once. I don't think Lienart or Young are Not first round talent but I do think Cutler will be the best of the three.

Hodge also thinks the Bills should draft Manny Lawson with the 8th pick because and I quote, "Then they could play the 3-4 defense." I'm sorry Meril but the Bills play the Tampa-style 4-3 now. You want them to change their entire defensive system just so they can draft Manny Lawson? That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard an analyst say to be completely honest.

[juck]

Ever notice that crappy nfl players make good bull talkers on tv,but the good nfl players stink at broadcasting.either way none know what they are talking about.especially 2nd string dorky merril hoge,or sean salsbury steak.

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeh I think that is a little far fetched. Noway Norm Chow passes on Lienart when the Titans pick, smoke screens are everywhere right now, remember you can never believe ANYTHING you hear 2 weeks before the Draft!

actually I think the Titans can, and will pass on Leinart, despite Chow and Jeff Fisher pining for him, Floyd Reese really likes Young and he has the final say

[Bob Sacamano]

I should clarify...

Hodge didn't say they wouldn't be picked early, just that "HE" wouldn't pick them that high. It was his own evaluation of the QBs. He didn't say he thought this would happen.

I think Hodge is saying that because he believes in taking QBs late ala Tom Brady, and developing them, he feels you get better value for them later than in the top 15

[Bob Sacamano]

Hodge's argument about Lienart's arm strength is meaningless. If you can anticipate where the guy is gonna be and get it to the right spot, you don't have to throw it that hard. Just how strong do you think Tom Brady's arm is? Not to mention the guy everybody compares him to...Joe Montana. Hell even Aikmen wasn't really known for his arm strength (although it was probably greater than Lienart's).

As for Young, he's clearly a first round talent. Just gonna take a little time to develop.

I think HOdge is talking about Leinart lacking the necessary arm strength to get the necessary velocity to fit the ball into tight spaces, hence the 8 inches WRs have in seperation in the NFL as opposed to the 8 feet in college comment, if true, it's a valid knock on a QB

[kingwhicker]

There has never been a sports "journalist" that I respected less or disdained more than Homer Hoge-and that includes Theisman. How he has a job anywhere, much less a national brand such as ESPN is a testament to work-place corruption, who you know-ism, and the current state of accepted mediocrity in society.

[BlueWave]

Abosolutly noway Matt gets passed Chow, and noway Young is rated better than him on the Titans draft board.

This guy is right on the money. This is a classic smokescreen to prevent teams from trying to jump the Titans by trading with the Saints. If the Titans act like they are thinking of taking Young, Linehart might fall to them. Classic smokescreen.

[BlueWave]

If Young is there he goes to the Titans.

That would set the franchise back five to six years. Vince Young will be a bust. Mark my words, right click, cut, and file. Check back in five years. He'll be sitting in an apartment playing Madden 2011 with Akili Smith and Cade McCown.

[jcollins28]

Hoge is first round talent in the idiot draft. In fact it is a dead tie to see who would be picked number 1 between him and Theisman for the first overall pick. Every time one of those guys open up their mouth they manage to out due each other in stupid remarks.

[kartr]

That would set the franchise back five to six years. Vince Young will be a bust. Mark my words, right click, cut, and file. Check back in five years. He'll be sitting in an apartment playing Madden 2011 with Akili Smith and Cade McCown.

The fact that you use Bledsoe's quote tells me that you and Hoge are in the same rut. Steve McNair went to a much smaller school than Young and has done just fine. Back five years, the Titans have been stuck in neutral for the last five years and the team already has a better supporting cast than what Vince had at UT. Vince is indeed a thoroughbred athlete who can make those around him better no what position he plays. I'll bet that in five years, it will be Cutler, that will be on the scrap heap with his 11 wins in 4 years. People will be backtracking off that 'the next Farve talk' quicker than lightning.