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I know it's not over yet, but what would you point to as the worst off season move made this season by the Cowboys?
Unfortunately, I can see LA's release and the Kosier acquisition coming back to haunt us. So far, I'd say that was the worst (or most risky) move made this season.
dannyboy
04-28-2006, 08:58 AM
I know it's not over yet, but what would you point to as the worst off season move made this season by the Cowboys?
Unfortunately, I can see LA's release and the Kosier acquisition coming back to haunt us. So far, I'd say that was the worst (or most risky) move made this season.
I think releasing Allen was the right move overall, but I am nervous about Kosier potential
austintodallas
04-28-2006, 08:59 AM
I wish we had kept Keyshawn.
zrinkill
04-28-2006, 09:02 AM
Letting Dan Cambell go ....
justbob
04-28-2006, 09:05 AM
I think releasing Allen was the right move overall, but I am nervous about Kosier potential
Letting Allen go was the right thing to do. He was no where close to the player we all remember. A mobile Kosier, who can get in the way of a few people and slow them down, will be an upgrade over Allen:star:
WoodysGirl
04-28-2006, 09:06 AM
I wish we had kept Keyshawn.Me too :o:
And letting Glover walk
While I understand both moves, I still hated them...
I wish we had kept Keyshawn.
That would mean not having Owens. I don't see how Owens and Johnson could have existed peacefully in the same locker room. I liked Johnson too, but since he was released in order to trade up for Owens talent, I'm okay with it.
CowboyWay
04-28-2006, 09:08 AM
Not getting Steve Hutchinson.
superpunk
04-28-2006, 09:08 AM
TO playing basketball. Potentially devastating move for the upcoming year. Who can we fire?
Letting Allen go was the right thing to do. He was no where close to the player we all remember. A mobile Kosier, who can get in the way of a few people and slow them down, will be an upgrade over Allen:star:
I hope you guys are right. Letting go of arguably the best olineman ever and replacing him with Kosier still makes me nervous though..
THUMPER
04-28-2006, 09:10 AM
Signing Terrell Owens by far. :bang2:
austintodallas
04-28-2006, 09:10 AM
That would mean not having Owens. I don't see how Owens and Johnson could have existed peacefully in the same locker room. I liked Johnson too, but since he was released in order to trade up for Owens talent, I'm okay with it.I disagree. I think Owens and Keyshawn would have been fine together.
superpunk
04-28-2006, 09:15 AM
Signing Terrell Owens by far. :bang2:
Yeah. Any time you can add one of the best players in the league, it's terrible.:eek:
mcallen cowboy
04-28-2006, 09:17 AM
I think the worst move was re-signing Keith Davis and then about two days later sigining Marcus Coleman. And then the possibility of drafting a safety with pick 18....:lmao2:
SteveOS
04-28-2006, 09:19 AM
I would have loved to keep Key, I think he and TO would work fine together. I just love Key's toughness, he'll stick his head into any situation. Carolina has a great pair of recievers.
THUMPER
04-28-2006, 09:20 AM
Yeah. Any time you can add one of the best players in the league, it's terrible.:eek:
Hmm, isn't Ricky Williams one of the best players in the league too? I rest my case.
superpunk
04-28-2006, 09:22 AM
Hmm, isn't Ricky Williams one of the best players in the league too? I rest my case.
Ricky Williams WAS one of the best players in the league, and his first year in miami, he played out of his mind....he's also been suspended by the league, and has a substance abuse problem - neither of which applies to TO.
Maybe think about re-opening that flimsy case.....
I disagree. I think Owens and Keyshawn would have been fine together.
Key seemed to mellow a little with Parcells roaming the sidelines too, so maybe. I prefer to have only one Key/Owens (throw me the damn ball) type player though to cut down on the potential for drama. Would have been interesting that's for sure..
Doomsday
04-28-2006, 09:22 AM
Letting Glover walk was a mistake in my opinion.
silver
04-28-2006, 09:27 AM
letting Glover walk Glover outplayed Ferguson last year. Letting him go will come back to haunt us. To me it will have the same effect as when we lost Woodson for the season. He was the glue that held the DL together. No way Fergy & Pepper Johnson can replace what he brought to the table.
THUMPER
04-28-2006, 09:27 AM
Ricky Williams WAS one of the best players in the league, and his first year in miami, he played out of his mind....he's also been suspended by the league, and has a substance abuse problem - neither of which applies to TO.
Maybe think about re-opening that flimsy case.....
No need to, Owens will very likely open it for me before too long. He always has.
The point is that just because a guy is talented it doesn't mean he is a good player to sign. Owens has proven that regardless of his talent he is not a good player to have on your team.
CrazyCowboy
04-28-2006, 09:29 AM
Not signing a young stud OL......
superpunk
04-28-2006, 09:30 AM
No need to, Owens will very likely open it for me before too long. He always has.
And noone's ever changed their ways, huh? :rolleyes:
silver
04-28-2006, 09:31 AM
No need to, Owens will very likely open it for me before too long. He always has.
The point is that just because a guy is talented it doesn't mean he is a good player to sign. Owens has proven that regardless of his talent he is not a good player to have on your team.
So tell me good ol Thumper, you're not willing to sell your soul to the devil?;)
Most of us here, including BP and JJ already resign ourselves to do so. I feel like the character in the movie Blow. One last run and I retire.
No need to, Owens will very likely open it for me before too long. He always has.
The point is that just because a guy is talented it doesn't mean he is a good player to sign. Owens has proven that regardless of his talent he is not a good player to have on your team.
Out of curiousity, were you for or against the Keyshawn signing?
silver
04-28-2006, 09:32 AM
Not signing a young stud OL......
This is the year Gurode proves all the naysayers wrong. There's your young stud OL. Don't forget we get Flo back.
superpunk
04-28-2006, 09:33 AM
Out of curiousity, were you for or against the Keyshawn signing?
Completely different situation, obviously. Because....well....just because.....:cool:
sbuscha
04-28-2006, 09:37 AM
allowing Parcells to watch spring training baseball while TO was at VR....That my friends was just terrible.:lmao2:
the kid 05
04-28-2006, 09:39 AM
Letting Allen go was the right thing to do. He was no where close to the player we all remember. A mobile Kosier, who can get in the way of a few people and slow them down, will be an upgrade over Allen:star:yeah hes mobile but does he have allens nasty streak and allens ablitly to just man handle people like they are rag dolls?
dbair1967
04-28-2006, 09:41 AM
Hmm, isn't Ricky Williams one of the best players in the league too? I rest my case.
well actually no, he isnt...he was ok for a couple of years but he was never an elite player IMO
David
AtlCB
04-28-2006, 09:41 AM
Releasing Glover was the biggest mistake. #2 had to be missing out on the decent FS's that were available in FA.
DLCassidy
04-28-2006, 09:46 AM
There's really no perfect time to dump pro bowl caliber players, but the salary cap forces the decisions. Is LA better than Kosier right now? Probably, but maybe not by that much, not enough to justify the money for sure. You might lose some in some areas and pick up in mobility. But just in case I want a 2nd round draft pick that can fill the breach if Kosier is not what we hope he is.
Glover is still a great player- just not a great NT. I think BP is more worried about that loss than any other though because Ferguson was very average last year and Pepper Johnson is not the picture of a pro NT. The problem is the candidates for NT in this draft are thin and other than Ngata all flawed. We need to get a bit lucky on that one IMO and pick up a diamond in the rough.
And Keyshawn? Another winning player that although slow of foot will show he still has something left in the tank. I think he will really help Carolina. I would feel better with some insurance at WR also.
Bottom line? I'm hoping this draft eases the sting of those losses.
justbob
04-28-2006, 10:48 AM
yeah hes mobile but does he have allens nasty streak and allens ablitly to just man handle people like they are rag dolls?
That remains to be seen --but the LA that we remember is not the LA we have had the last few years. The only people he handled where the ones that
come striaght at one
wileedog
04-28-2006, 10:55 AM
yeah hes mobile but does he have allens nasty streak and allens ablitly to just man handle people like they are rag dolls?
Can't man handle someone if you can't hit them.
justbob
04-28-2006, 10:58 AM
Can't man handle someone if you can't hit them.
Exactly:bow:
Arch Stanton
04-28-2006, 11:02 AM
Glover outplayed Ferguson last year. Letting him go will come back to haunt us. To me it will have the same effect as when we lost Woodson for the season. He was the glue that held the DL together. No way Fergy & Pepper Johnson can replace what he brought to the table.
I agree. So far there hasn't been an obvious plan for a replacement. Unless Johnson is the plan. Then of course there is tomorrow....
JackMagist
04-28-2006, 11:11 AM
Signing Terrell Owens by far. :bang2:We have a winner.
ravidubey
04-28-2006, 11:18 AM
Letting Keyshawn Johnson go to Carolina.
Zaxor
04-28-2006, 11:32 AM
What a loaded question...
it is a What if scenario...
What if.... this is it for Parcells and the team doesn't even make the playoffs and Peyton turns out to be Landry Jr....then not firing Bill and not promoting Shaun would be seen as a bad move.
What if.... Terry Glenn gets hurt again and Crayton never regains form...then paying Terry and not having any depth at his position is a potential season threating decision... (might should be in the Walker sweepstakes)
What if.... Johnson and Gurode just suck at center again..no faster way to get to the QB... than maybe we needed that kid out of N.O. (forget his name)
man this could go on for a long time as far as what we should have or could have done in the offseason...
the kid 05
04-28-2006, 11:33 AM
Can't man handle someone if you can't hit them. that is true :laugh2: smart a$$
neosapien23
04-28-2006, 11:55 AM
It depends on a what-if scenarion? I would have to say not taking a quarterback early in the draft to take over for Bledsoe if Parcells knows Romo is not the answer. I would not be surprised if the Tuna refused to a quarterback even if he knew Dallas needed one just to win now. Than again there is no way of telling what he opinion he holds on Romo.
Yeagermeister
04-28-2006, 12:01 PM
Making that Yeager guy a mod.......WHAT was Reality thinking? :D
WoodysGirl
04-28-2006, 01:03 PM
Making that Yeager guy a mod.......WHAT was Reality thinking? :D:hammer:
:D
Crown Royal
04-28-2006, 01:22 PM
Echoing several other points, we released one of our top 5 defenders for $$$ reasons, when we could have afforded him.
I don't see how you get better doing that, but we'll see.
StanleySpadowski
04-28-2006, 01:30 PM
This is an easy one. Assembling a Super Bowl caliber team around a non-Suber Bowl caliber QB.
MiStar
04-28-2006, 02:28 PM
Signing TO when we could have had Keyshawn and Glover for a similar price. We'll see about FS. If we don't pick up a decent FS in the draft, my answer will be not sufficiently addressing the FS problem.
Bob Sacamano
04-28-2006, 02:30 PM
I wish we had kept Keyshawn.
I'm mad we didn't trade him to HOuston or some GOd-forsaken team instead of letting the Panthers sign him:)
Bob Sacamano
04-28-2006, 02:32 PM
yeah hes mobile but does he have allens nasty streak and allens ablitly to just man handle people like they are rag dolls?
that mean-streak and ability to man-handle became useless when we needed it most, sustaining blocks at the 2nd level because Allen couldn't get out there anymore
Bob Sacamano
04-28-2006, 02:33 PM
Echoing several other points, we released one of our top 5 defenders for $$$ reasons, when we could have afforded him.
I don't see how you get better doing that, but we'll see.
Glover was a part-time player scheduled to make 7 million, it's business guys
Bob Sacamano
04-28-2006, 02:34 PM
And noone's ever changed their ways, huh? :rolleyes:
and esp. when they're given incentive to, like a 3 year, 25 mil contract that is largely based on him behaving :D
I know it's not over yet, but what would you point to as the worst off season move made this season by the Cowboys?
Unfortunately, I can see LA's release and the Kosier acquisition coming back to haunt us. So far, I'd say that was the worst (or most risky) move made this season.
Signing Rivera and Ferguson.
Wait that was last year.;)
I really wish we still had Keyshawn and yet I understand we're going in a different direction with more upside.
I don't know if Kozier is the answer at LG but I know Larry Allen no longer was. I certainly wish we had someone more proven at LG but we shall see.
I also understand releasing Glover. Not a good cap value. I just hope the way we spend his dollars, and Allen's, and Keyshawns, ends up being a better ROI. To be determined...
Paniolo22
04-28-2006, 02:59 PM
I'm mad we didn't trade him to HOuston or some GOd-forsaken team instead of letting the Panthers sign him:)
Not trading ANY of our players and never getting anything in return for them.
Big Country
04-28-2006, 03:13 PM
:bang2: not picking Jose Cortez back up when he was available again...
superpunk
04-28-2006, 03:16 PM
Not trading ANY of our players and never getting anything in return for them.
Who really did that, though? It's really just a pipe dream by fans, because in general, if you're going to trade a player, teams know you're just gonna cut them anyway - so why give up draft picks?
big dog cowboy
04-28-2006, 04:30 PM
I know it's not over yet, but what would you point to as the worst off season move made this season by the Cowboys?
Keeping Zimmer.
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