RECAP: GaC, Coop and Babe on Cowboy bias...

[trickblue]

Randy Galloway, Chuck Cooperstein and Babe Laufenberg:
Coop, Brian and myself think that Parcells came across so poorly... meek, mild, beaten. I felt it was the death of a legend. Big Bill has been gelded. (Galloway)
He should have gone to Jerry and told him he wanted TO and he would deal with it. He dissappointed me by saying they all agree on it. I'm sure he didn't legislate this into action. It was Jerry's idea although Parcells probably had veto power over it. (Babe)
I saw him coming across as a fool (Galloway)
I didn't see him come across as a fool. I think Parcells does a good job of towing the company line. We will never know who initiated the George or Price moves, but he made it sound as he was onboard. I don't care what he said in the PC, I think this is his last year. If he doesn't make the playoffs this year, why would he come back? Why would Jerry want him back? (Babe)
I didn't want to believe that this is the re-emergence of Jerry back in charge at Valley Ranch, but obviously he is as "Little Bill" proved. (Galloway)
If you are Jerry, you have to look down the road 3-4 years. He has to take a little more control in setting the long-term goals of the Cowboys. (Babe)
Why is he pigeon-holing himself to running the 3-4 and the 2 TE set if he is truly looking down the road? Don't you want the new coach to do what made him successful? (Coop)
How do we know what the next coach wants? Even Jerry doesn't know who is the next in line. (Babe)
Well if he wants to keep the same philosophy then he limits himself to coaches that run the same formations. (Coop)
Jimmy was a genius and Jerry was an idiot. We are old-school journalists... we know the score and you as a former player in Dallas knows it too, Babe. (Galloway)
There are those that only see what they are told at Valley Ranch. They have their agenda and never report the truth. Dallas is the least objectively covered team in the Dallas media. (Babe)
Yes I have an agenda, but so do those that believe everything that comes out of Valley Ranch. (Galloway)

[InmanRoshi]

I think Craig Miller of the Ticket said it best the other day. When you only look at the Cowboys from a negative light or only look at the Cowboys through a positive light, you really have no credibility as a member of the media. No matter which approach you take its good to display some balance. The problem with the Dallas media is that really not many have any credibility over the Cowboys. Is it a really a choice between Mickey's crap and the 103.3 ESPN crap? Really? That's our either/or? There's no inbetween?

[bobtheflob]

There are those that only see what they are told at Valley Ranch. They have their agenda and never report the truth. Dallas is the least objectively covered team in the Dallas media. (Babe)

Thank you Babe. I think we as fans need to do more to show our displeasure of the local reporting, then maybe we can finally see some changes. At least now there are grumblings from both Babe and Mick.

[Chief]

Why is he pigeon-holing himself to running the 3-4 and the 2 TE set if he is truly looking down the road? Don't you want the new coach to do what made him successful? (Coop)

How do we know what the next coach wants? Even Jerry doesn't know who is the next in line. (Babe)

Well if he wants to keep the same philosophy then he limits himself to coaches that run the same formations. (Coop)


This was a concern of mine a couple of weeks ago.

[DMX690]

At the end of the days. Parcell will be judge by his win, lost record. God, training camp can't come soon enough.

[trickblue]

Why is he pigeon-holing himself to running the 3-4 and the 2 TE set if he is truly looking down the road? Don't you want the new coach to do what made him successful? (Coop)
How do we know what the next coach wants? Even Jerry doesn't know who is the next in line. (Babe)
Well if he wants to keep the same philosophy then he limits himself to coaches that run the same formations. (Coop)
But on the flip-side, if Dallas only drafts players to run a 4-3 and a 3 WR set, isn't he pigeon-holing himself in that respect as well?

You have to draft for the moment in some respects.

[Paniolo22]

This was a concern of mine a couple of weeks ago.
I don't see a pidgen hole if we switch back. It gives us options. Ware can still play LB or DE. Carpenter is still a SSLB, Canty DE, Spears DE/DT, Ferggy DT, and James MLB/OLB. Fasano gives us another option at TE to either keep or trade. Not really a big problem.

[Chief]

But on the flip-side, if Dallas only drafts players to run a 4-3 and a 3 WR set, isn't he pigeon-holing himself in that respect as well?

You have to draft for the moment in some respects.

You're right, tb.

That's why I liked the Carpenter pick, because he can probably play the 4-3 also.

And it wouldn't be too big of a deal to add a fullback in the future, etc.

I guess what bothered me is Jerry saying that Dallas is going to stick with the 3-4 and that he is "out of the fullback" business.

I actually like the 3-4 and the two TE set, but I'm curious as to why Jerry would make such a declaration when he'll be looking for a new coach in a year or two. He should hire the best coach available and let him run his own schemes and not try to find a coach to fit what he has now.

[SultanOfSix]

What is it with the media? First they had Parcells' silence to fall back on when it came to proving their agenda that he really didn't agree with the TO decision. But, when he speaks and says he's on board with the decision, it's coachspeak, or double talk, and he still really doesn't agree with the decision. It's a can't win situation.

How about we call in a judge, put Parcells on the stand, and have him swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth? Would that satisfy you (the media)? Yes?

Well, why don't we do the same for you as well too?

[junk]

Doesn't Galloway make like $300K a year or something like that?

Whoever signs that clown's checks needs to have their head checked.

[bbgun]

# There are those that only see what they are told at Valley Ranch. They have their agenda and never report the truth. Dallas is the least objectively covered team in the Dallas media. (Babe)

Spoken like a true (albeit former) club employee. He has as much credibility as Mick.

# Yes I have an agenda, but so do those that believe everything that comes out of Valley Ranch. (Galloway)

LOL! That would include a lot of sycophants on this board.

[junk]

Spoken like a true (albeit former) club employee. He has as much credibility as Mick.



LOL! That would include a lot of sycophants on this board.

Goes both ways. For every person that is positive about everything, there is someone that is negative about everything.

The reality lies somewhere in between the super pessimists and the super optimists.

[Mansta54]

Doesn't Galloway make like $300K a year or something like that?

Whoever signs that clown's checks needs to have their head checked.




Galloway is a complete IDIOT.....

[EastDallasCowboy]

ESPN 103.3 is a joke of a radio station. It's a total joke.

I'm in Sales, so I spend the bulk of my day driving. As a result, I've started flipping over to 103.3 during the Ticket's commercials and during segments that just don't interest me (most of the Musers show, hockey, Sopranos talk, etc.). As such, I've tried to give that radio station a chance.

It's just dreadful. It's horrible.

They seem to spend over 2 hours a day talking about the Cowboys.....IN APRIL/MAY!!! I love the Cowboys, I enjoy talking the Cowboys, I greatly enjoy this board....but how the hell can anyone spend 2 hours talking about the Cowboys this time of year?

The answer: spew nothing but tripe.

Galloway can't do a freaking segment without shoehorning in TO. Oh wait, not TO...."Eldorado". Seriously, I don't think he can. He's talking about the same subject he was talking about 2 months ago....every single day. But when he does take a break from TO, well then it's all about Parcells. Parcells is gonna quit, he's been saying that for 2 years. Jerry is an idiot. He's been saying that for over 10 years. You could record GAC once, archive it, and compare it to the show 5 years from now and it would probably be the same tired bit.

Then you've got Dan Patrick. He's just an idiot, with east coast bias, that doesn't deserve more than these two sentences.

And of course, there's Dennis and Engel. The average TV guy paired with the lackluster newspaper columnist that has the most irritating nasally voice I've ever heard. TV has women doing sports (see: Summer Sanders) because they're hot...or to be PC....or to do fluff pieces....not because Suzy Kolber offers anything of relevance to the broadcast. Engel offers nothing but ill-formed opinions mixed with a dose of homerism and a voice that gives me a headache before noon.

The only thing 103.3 could do to give them less credibilty is give Ric Renner a show. Maybe pair him with Joe Theismann....hey, there's an idea! Hell, they took Hansen and his hour a week of self-centered talk about living in Waxahachie and playing poker with friends.

The worst part about it, is now ESPN is trying to play "the Ticket is in Jerry's backpocket" card which is absolutely absurd. The Ticket says more things of actual substance about the Cowboys during a 15min segment than 103.3 does in 2 freaking hours of Cowboys coverage a day. And because it's not canned (minus Rhyner's 'New Jersey Con-Man' bit), it's not repetitive enough to make me want to stab myself in the ears. Or beat my head against a wall.

:bang2:

[adbutcher]

Galloway is a complete IDIOT.....
:hammer:

[CrazyCowboy]

Nice read...thanks

[dbair1967]

I think even though he says the 3-4 is staying, part of the reason they picked Carpenter over Lawson (and probably over Wimbley too had he been available) is because Carpenter could fit either defensive scheme...they could play him at any LB in a 4-3 defense...they have Ware who could play RDE...Spears could play LDE or move inside to DT in a 4-3...Canty could play LDE or if bulked up could play DT in the 4-3...Ferguson can play either scheme as well...Ayodele can play either scheme...James can play either scheme...new pic Hatcher could fit almost anywhere on the DL in a 4-3

had they drafted Lawson and then wanted to play the 4-3, either he or Ware would be drastically out of place and wasted...niether would be capable of being a drop and cover OLB in the 4-3, both would be better suited at RDE

and having 2 good TE's doesnt commit you to anything either...virtually every team uses some formations with 2 TE's...its just some teams play more 2TE sets than others

David

[ndanger]

ESPN 103.3 is a joke of a radio station. It's a total joke.

I'm in Sales, so I spend the bulk of my day driving. As a result, I've started flipping over to 103.3 during the Ticket's commercials and during segments that just don't interest me (most of the Musers show, hockey, Sopranos talk, etc.). As such, I've tried to give that radio station a chance.

It's just dreadful. It's horrible.

They seem to spend over 2 hours a day talking about the Cowboys.....IN APRIL/MAY!!! I love the Cowboys, I enjoy talking the Cowboys, I greatly enjoy this board....but how the hell can anyone spend 2 hours talking about the Cowboys this time of year?

The answer: spew nothing but tripe.

Galloway can't do a freaking segment without shoehorning in TO. Oh wait, not TO...."Eldorado". Seriously, I don't think he can. He's talking about the same subject he was talking about 2 months ago....every single day. But when he does take a break from TO, well then it's all about Parcells. Parcells is gonna quit, he's been saying that for 2 years. Jerry is an idiot. He's been saying that for over 10 years. You could record GAC once, archive it, and compare it to the show 5 years from now and it would probably be the same tired bit.

Then you've got Dan Patrick. He's just an idiot, with east coast bias, that doesn't deserve more than these two sentences.

And of course, there's Dennis and Engel. The average TV guy paired with the lackluster newspaper columnist that has the most irritating nasally voice I've ever heard. TV has women doing sports (see: Summer Sanders) because they're hot...or to be PC....or to do fluff pieces....not because Suzy Kolber offers anything of relevance to the broadcast. Engel offers nothing but ill-formed opinions mixed with a dose of homerism and a voice that gives me a headache before noon.

The only thing 103.3 could do to give them less credibilty is give Ric Renner a show. Maybe pair him with Joe Theismann....hey, there's an idea! Hell, they took Hansen and his hour a week of self-centered talk about living in Waxahachie and playing poker with friends.

The worst part about it, is now ESPN is trying to play "the Ticket is in Jerry's backpocket" card which is absolutely absurd. The Ticket says more things of actual substance about the Cowboys during a 15min segment than 103.3 does in 2 freaking hours of Cowboys coverage a day. And because it's not canned (minus Rhyner's 'New Jersey Con-Man' bit), it's not repetitive enough to make me want to stab myself in the ears. Or beat my head against a wall.

:bang2:
Dang E.D.C ,tell us how you really feel.Nothin' like unloadin' after a hard days work huh bro'.Hey it beats kickin' the dog, not that I'm all about animal cruelty or anything,hey you get what I'm sayin'.Good luck with your sales bro'

[Cowboy Junkie]

Doesn't Galloway make like $300K a year or something like that?

Whoever signs that clown's checks needs to have their head checked.


Well said
I agree totally

[Cowboy Junkie]

these so called reporters keep saying Parcells is going to quit and by GOD one of these days they are going to get it right....

[baj1dallas]

I think Craig Miller of the Ticket said it best the other day. When you only look at the Cowboys from a negative light or only look at the Cowboys through a positive light, you really have no credibility as a member of the media. No matter which approach you take its good to display some balance. The problem with the Dallas media is that really not many have any credibility over the Cowboys. Is it a really a choice between Mickey's crap and the 103.3 ESPN crap? Really? That's our either/or? There's no inbetween?


Galloway himself insists he has no credibility. I don't really get the current attitude, well I understand from Galloway, but not the rest of them.

[JackMagist]

Yes I have an agenda, (Galloway)As if we didn't all already know that. The Galloway/Hansen agenda is getting really old really fast; I don’t read or listen to wither of them anymore. I thought Babe did a pretty decent job of standing up for the truth (though more diplomatic than I would have been) while Galloway spewed more of his venom.

Coop had some decent points about the formations that BP is going to run; he uses two pretty well bastardized systems. But if you're not going to let BP run his systems you might as well go ahead and fire him now...which of course is what Galloway and his cronies want.

[CowboyJeff]

There's definitely a Cowboys bias. Just look on this website. Rayfield Wright was listed as the #15 best Cowboy of All Time....and that's from Cowboys fans!! If this group overlooks him, we really can't complain about the years and years of the Hall Of Fame committee overlooking him.

[trickblue]

There's definitely a Cowboys bias. Just look on this website. Rayfield Wright was listed as the #15 best Cowboy of All Time....and that's from Cowboys fans!! If this group overlooks him, we really can't complain about the years and years of the Hall Of Fame committee overlooking him.

That's not how the game worked... it really has no "rank" per se... it was kinda come up with them as you think of them...

[wileedog]

I saw him coming across as a fool (Galloway)

I didn't want to believe that this is the re-emergence of Jerry back in charge at Valley Ranch, but obviously he is as "Little Bill" proved. (Galloway)

Yes I have an agenda, but so do those that believe everything that comes out of Valley Ranch. (Galloway)

I absolutely dare Galloway to say any of this to Bill's face.

[VACowboy]

I don't get the assertion that Jerry is shoe-horning the next coach into anything. All coaches have to run some sort of scheme on offense and defense, and draft accordingly.

[bbgun]

Or maybe the press doesn't appreciate being stonewalled or lied to. Nah, that can't be it.

[PacoReloaded]

Well if he wants to keep the same philosophy then he limits himself to coaches that run the same formations. (Coop)Then Jerruh just needs to do everything in his power to bring in Weis.

[CowboyJeff]

That's not how the game worked... it really has no "rank" per se... it was kinda come up with them as you think of them...

and nobody thought of Hall Of Famer Rayfield Wright on a Cowboys site until #15 down the list.....

[InmanRoshi]

EastDallasCowboy, I agree with every single word you typed.

The Ticket broadcasts every single round of the draft live from New York, has Jerry and Jeff Ireland on for exclusive interviews, has exclusive interviews with the players, brings in Cowboy scouts to discuss each pick, Mickey broadcasting from the Ranch and gets Rick Gosselin's input.

103.3 counters with old fart and disgruntled former Cowboy employee roundtable on the same poor TO and Jerry vs. Parcells dead horse that they've unmercilessly beaten all their listeners down with for the last 4 months.

Its not hard to see why one station is all bent out of shape about no Parcells press conference and the other seems rather indifferent about it. 103.3 NEEDS Bill Parcells speculation ... its all they got.

And I'm not sure when JFE became the Goddess of Cowboy beat writers and JJT became the goat, but give me JJT any day of the week (as long as he's not talking about the cap).

[JackMagist]

Then Jerruh just needs to do everything in his power to bring in Weis.With the Parcells tree growing nurtured by the success of Bellichek and now with Saban in the league. There are more and more coaches out there who will be indoctrinated in this style of play. If we don't get Weis (and I doubt we will) then there will be plenty of others.

[Manster68]

It is just amazing how allthey want to talk about, when it comes to the Cowboys, is Terrell Owens.

Many say that he is a cancer.

Well, you know what, GAC, Dennis, JFE, and Babe, if you think he is a cancer, then treat him like one.

- Get tested often
- Detect it early
- Act promptly if a problem should arise

However, until there is a problem...

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!!

[SilverStarCowboy]

Just stoopid Mediots looking to stir the pot and create a story, bogus as it is they have us talking so it worked.

I am boycotting all sports radio untill pre-season at which time they will deny all said involvement as the Dallas Cowboys rise beyond the reaches of their danty little frail kitty kitty paws.

[Yakuza Rich]

Jimmy was a genius and Jerry was an idiot. We are old-school journalists... we know the score and you as a former player in Dallas knows it too, Babe. (Galloway)

Hey Randy, who wanted Steve Walsh as the QB of the future and who wanted Troy Aikman as the QB of the future?

Answer that and you'll see that Jimmy wasn't such a genius (where was his success with the Dolphins?) and Jerry wasn't such an idiot.

Oh wait, you still won't get my point because:

"Yes, I have an agenda" - Randy Galloway


Rich.............

[lurkercowboy]

My respect for Babe Laughenberg just skyrocketed.

[InmanRoshi]

When Galloway is still incessantly talking about the Jerry/Jimmy divorce 12 years after the fact, he really need not remind us that he has no credibility. He used to be king of the hill in the Dallas sports media at one time, but now he's just become 2nd rate sports personality working for a 2nd rate newspaper with a talkshow on a 2nd rate station.

[Heisenberg]

**SNIP**

The worst part about it, is now ESPN is trying to play "the Ticket is in Jerry's backpocket" card which is absolutely absurd. The Ticket says more things of actual substance about the Cowboys during a 15min segment than 103.3 does in 2 freaking hours of Cowboys coverage a day. And because it's not canned (minus Rhyner's 'New Jersey Con-Man' bit), it's not repetitive enough to make me want to stab myself in the ears. Or beat my head against a wall.

:bang2:

I am right there with you man. ESPN 103.3 is complete and total crap in comparison to The Ticket. Yeah, if you don't like an occasional skit or some shtick, it might annoy you somewhat, but as far as people with real valid sports opinions, it doesn't get any better on DFW radio. Just like you said, they can talk about something for 15 minutes and get more valid opinions out there than a 2 hour timeslot on 103.3.

[EastDallasCowboy]

When Galloway is still incessantly talking about the Jerry/Jimmy divorce 12 years after the fact, he really need not remind us that he has no credibility. He used to be king of the hill in the Dallas sports media at one time, but now he's just become 2nd rate sports personality working for a 2nd rate newspaper with a talkshow on a 2nd rate station.


We'd probably be saying the same thing about Skip Bayless, except somehow people give him credibility for that joke of a show he does on ESPN TV, Cold Pizza. Well that, and how he seemingly disappeared off the face of the earth for almost a decade.

[Alexander]

We will never know who initiated the George or Price moves, but he made it sound as he was onboard.

I completely disagree here.

His "silence" did speak volumes there. Even his comments after the signings were very lukewarm, like it bothered him to even discuss them.

I don't think that is in any way similar to this Owens situation where he did do some research and legwork. There is much more evidence to show he didn't with George and Price.

[NorthDalal]

I am right there with you man. ESPN 103.3 is complete and total crap in comparison to The Ticket. Yeah, if you don't like an occasional skit or some shtick, it might annoy you somewhat, but as far as people with real valid sports opinions, it doesn't get any better on DFW radio. Just like you said, they can talk about something for 15 minutes and get more valid opinions out there than a 2 hour timeslot on 103.3.

As a former ticket P-1 and now a ticket "barely listener" I'm amazed at Ozzu and EDC's ticket love.
Without question their draft coverage is superior and of course I had them on wall to wall for it.but that's it..

But now we're back to Dunham and Millers "musings" BAD radio's complete disinterest in the Cowboy's, and Mike Rhyner's out and out hatred for them, add in obscure band "Entertainment news" and junior high school- level bathroom humor repeated over and over again in the form of their insufferable "drops" which weren't funny the first time, let alone the 50th
time and I just don't get it. They have run me off. And even if they didn't purposefully run me off with the stupidity, why run a segment of the audience off by referring derisively to "40 something white guys" constantly.

EDC claims to be a salesman so he has some "credibility", he can't be much of a Cowboy fan claiming there's to much Cowboy talk in the spring. I say bring it on.

[EGG]

Or maybe the press doesn't appreciate being stonewalled or lied to. Nah, that can't be it.

aw, poor little babies~! and all they want to do is help... :rolleyes:

[Chocolate Lab]

You guys are right. I just checked the Ticket to hear some sports talk and got 20 minutes of Sturm talking about taking his kid to see the Barney show.

Riveting stuff. ;)

[InmanRoshi]

103.3 listeners are like John Kerry voters. Ask them why they listen to 103.3 and they'll give you a long list of things they hate about the ticket.:D

[Scotman]

Galloway is a complete IDIOT.....

I disagree.



I think he's an INCOMPLETE idiot.

[EastDallasCowboy]

I only mentioned the salesman thing because it gives me far, far too much time everyday to listen to the radio as I sit in D/FW traffic.

I'm not saying the Ticket is perfect. A lot of the times I do switch over to 103.3 is during the inane segments such as E-News, Gordo, Tivo talk, etc. But when I end up switching over it's like beating my head against a wall.

The thing is, I am a firm believer in that you can only talk so much Cowboys in May. The draft is over, TC is a few months away, and most signings this time of year are leftover spares. The TO subject has been beaten to a bloody rotting pulp, and no matter how much you talk about the Cowboys o-line you're not going to settle anything until TC. Just like you can only talk so much Rangers in December or Mavericks in August.

Guests are great. Bring on Fasano or Bledsoe or Skyler or whatever and it's a great segment. As are maybe 10 or 15m every few days on a different Cowboys topic, but really there's nothing new you can say this time of year.

And if you want to talk about Rhyner's hatred of the Cowboys (which is a bit, btw) you can't forget Dan Patrick's east coast bias or Galloway's anti-Jerry, Owens, etc. bias.

I guess it's just different strokes, but I can't handle 103.3 most of the time.

[maxsports]

The Dallas media in general stinks. Their opinions change daily except about T.O. Sometimes when I listen, I think what are they talking about? I must say though after 12:00 noon, if you want to hear sports, the ticket is not the station to listen to. I like listening to Dan Patrick and even though I can't stand Galloway, I listen if I want to hear sports talk.