Madden or 2k

[Future]

OK, I've seen this debated too many times in threads. I just saw it in the image zone and that triggered me to do this. I want to see how many people prefer the Madden series football game vs. the 2k series game.

Personally, i think Madden is far superior. Make the argument that the graphics have not changed, but seriously how much better can they be? And the precision passing is revolutionary, haters will say the game doesnt change, but this is something unique and makes the game very realistic.

[Tricked]

maddens an EA product, enough said

[VirusX]

/waits for eddie to post his usual " Madden is the same as it was for the last 6 years" reply.

Madden 100%

2k was a great game but needed major tweaking.

[JsnSA]

I preferred the 2K series myself.

It's too bad it had to end. The competition made both versions better.

[Future]

/waits for eddie to post his usual " Madden is the same as it was for the last 6 years" reply.

Madden 100%

2k was a great game but needed major tweaking.

anyone who says that has not played madden objectively enough...the game is nowhere near the same

[TheHustler]

anyone who says that has not played madden objectively enough...the game is nowhere near the same

I started playing Madden 95 again lately. Man, it's crazy how much technology has changed in the last 5 years. It doesn't even have players names!

[jswalker1981]

Actually, I can't wait for EA's NFL Head Coach. I have always liked the other aspects of football, i.e. the offseason and strategy. I can't wait to give that game a try, there is going to be so much depth in it, it is crazy!

[ka0tik]

Actually, I can't wait for EA's NFL Head Coach. I have always liked the other aspects of football, i.e. the offseason and strategy. I can't wait to give that game a try, there is going to be so much depth in it, it is crazy!

Whats gonna be so different from the other Maddens'? Havent heard of it. can You please explain to me wuts the extra ''depth'' its gonna have.

[Future]

I started playing Madden 95 again lately. Man, it's crazy how much technology has changed in the last 5 years. It doesn't even have players names!

i assume youre being sarcastic...but i was referring to those people who say the game is the same every year with roster updates, which couldnt be farther from the truth

[ka0tik]

I know it might be kinda hard to make fans so detailed and stuff, but man are fans horrible in video games. and I'm talking soccer/football/basketball. even tho fans arent the target in the game, it would be more realistic if they were better.

[GhettoxCowboy]

madden hands down..:bow:

[Qwickdraw]

Personally, I prefer 10 Yard Fight. :o:

[SupermanXx]

http://www.nesfiles.com/NES/10_Yard_Fight/10_Yard_Fight_cart.jpg

[Qwickdraw]

:laugh2:

[TurtleTurds]

madden and nfl street are down, both EA products:o:

[Jay]

Not even close. You want realism, you go to Madden.

[Rack Bauer]

Not even close. You want realism, you go to Madden.


Madden realistic? No way.


Closest video football game there is to realistic? Yep.

[TheBeheader31]

Tecmo Freaking Super Bowl!

[Zippy Speedster]

Oh heck I thought the question was between the new madden and the 2k that alot of people seem to still like playing over madden. I always liked the 2k series better then Madden, though I wouldn't play an old game over the new one that's about to come out.

[Yeagermeister]

Tecmo Freaking Super Bowl!
:bow: Best football game ever except the Dallas team sucked lol

I can only say madden is better since I don't own a console and only play on my pc....therefore MADDEN RULES

[Ken]

I'm still playing 2K with updated rosters.

FAAAAR superior game as far as gameplay and presentation go. There are bugs, but most can be fixed through the sliders. All I have to say was online leagues were simply the greatest thing ever. Why it had to end, when they were only going to add to it, is just a sin.

The only thing madden has on this game is the Franchise. Madden has been so disappointing to me the last 3 years, it can't even be put into words.

They also took away my right to buy both games on release day. This was a tradition for me.

If they don't put out a quality game this year, I don't know how much more video football I will be playing. Which is sad because I've been playing madden or other games since 1989.

[txlonghorn14]

i liked the 2k game because it was 20 bucks and had great graphics, and of course boomer was in the game. i wish they continued the series, but thanks to the ea empire, they ruined it for everyone.

[locked&loaded]

if you choose madden you obviously havent played espn 2k sports. the 2005 game was best football game ever created still today

[The30YardSlant]

Especially with the new-gen consoles, Madden's graphics are out of this world amazing. Madden also annually has more features and more things to do in their games than 2K ever did. The only problems I have with Madden that are not problems in 2K is that Madden never has half the rookie's pictures and DBs can jump way to high to knock balls away. Not everyone is Michael Jordan.

[The30YardSlant]

BTW, anyone else remember Walter Payton in Techmo Super Bowl? OMG, he was unstoppable

[skinsscalper]

My problem with 2K is that it was WAYYYYY too easy to dominate. On Madden you can crank up the CPU's awareness and atleast make a game of it. 2K on the hardest levels were a bore.

SS

[mrecktid]

espn 2k5 with updated rosters FTMFW

[Ken]

My problem with 2K is that it was WAYYYYY too easy to dominate. On Madden you can crank up the CPU's awareness and atleast make a game of it. 2K on the hardest levels were a bore.

SS
See, now I think exactly opposite.

The 2k Series seemed to have variable difficulty as well. You could start out 6-0 in your season, but that 7th game could be a buzzsaw. Really added to the feel of the game.

Madden, maybe because I've played it so many years, never challenged me anymore and I could do what I wanted. Not to mention the CPU didn't run the ball.

What a pleasure it is to play vs the Steelers in 2k and have to really bear down to stop the run, while risking a deep ball with a play fake. 2k Is just an awesome game.

[Eddie]

Personally, i think Madden is far superior. Make the argument that the graphics have not changed, but seriously how much better can they be? And the precision passing is revolutionary, haters will say the game doesnt change, but this is something unique and makes the game very realistic.


Holy smokes, EA has you in their back pockets.

How much better than the graphics be? How about looking at the graphics for 2k5 and answer that one yourself.

Sorry bro, I'm not falling for EA's media campaign. I'm not paying $50 every year for the same game ... albeit new cover boy, updated rosters, and some bells and whistles.

Man, imagine Hollywood offering the same thing with their movies?

Star Wars - the Original
Star Wars - the updated and expanded edition
Star Wars - with new interactive media
Star Wars - with new cover and gold trim
Star Wars - 5th anniversary edition
Star Wars - with new intro by George Lucas
Star Wars - with deleted Princess Leah in bikini scene
Star Wars - with new and improved features

This is what Madden football is. Madden 2007 is nothing more than Madden 2000 with updated rosters, bells and whistles.

What's next? The ability to turn off the QB flashlight?

How about the ability to jump high?

Sorry ... but EA got you guys in their grips and it's hilarious how everyone buys the same game year in and year out.

[Eddie]

if you choose madden you obviously havent played espn 2k sports. the 2005 game was best football game ever created still today

Absolutely agree, and it's still better than Madden 2007.

Download the updated rosters and there you go ... ESPN NFL 2k7 without spending another freakin' $50.

[Eddie]

anyone who says that has not played madden objectively enough...the game is nowhere near the same


ha ha ha. EA has you fooled my friend.

Put in Madden 2000 and then put in Madden 2007. It's the SAME freakin' game ... updated rosters and some bells and whistles.

Sorry, put the Madden homerism aside and be objective. Don't let the EA empire fool you. They're selling you the same exact game for the past 7 editions.

They're laughing all the way to the bank and all you guys who put down deposits on Madden 2007 are just throwing your money away.

If you really like Madden, pick up Madden 2003 for $1.99 used ... and download a roster editor. Spend a few hours updating your rosters, and voila, Madden 2007 ... FOR FREE !!!

[Eddie]

Actually, I can't wait for EA's NFL Head Coach. I have always liked the other aspects of football, i.e. the offseason and strategy. I can't wait to give that game a try, there is going to be so much depth in it, it is crazy!


NFL Head Coach is nothing more than Madden franchise mode with some bells and whistles.

Do you really think EA is going to put out anything innovative?

For those who thought EA was gonna put out an amazing Arena League football, what did we get? Watered down Madden which is closer to NFL Blitz 2000.

EA is doing nothing more than rehashing the Madden engine into different iterations. NCAA Football is nothing more than Madden college. Arena League is Madden slim. NFL Head Coach is Madden franchise mode.

EA is just sucking your money guys.

Don't fall for it.

[superpunk]

Holy smokes, EA has you in their back pockets.

How much better than the graphics be? How about looking at the graphics for 2k5 and answer that one yourself.

Over the years it's gotten much better. The gameplay has gotten smoother, player movement more natural, it feels different every year.

What's next? The ability to turn off the QB flashlight?

Don't be ridiculous, you can already do that. But then, how would I draw the safeties right, only to hit a streaking Glenn down the left side at the last second? :)

How about the ability to jump high?

How about the power to kill a yak, from 300 yards, with mind bullets?

THAT'S TELELKINESIS KYLE!!!!!!!!!!

[Eddie]

Especially with the new-gen consoles, Madden's graphics are out of this world amazing. Madden also annually has more features and more things to do in their games than 2K ever did. The only problems I have with Madden that are not problems in 2K is that Madden never has half the rookie's pictures and DBs can jump way to high to knock balls away. Not everyone is Michael Jordan.


Ha ha. Madden 2007 for the 360 was so watered down and pushed out it was pathetic. Half the NFL rules don't apply. There's absolutely NO depth to the game. It's ALL graphics. Which is fine and good. May as well go play Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball or some other button mashing game.

If you don't believe me ... read the reviews by players like you and me ... and I bet most of them are Madden homers...
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horrible
Reviewed By: Jason Date: Sunday, May 07, 2006

This game is awful it's not even Madden. There is no Madden commentary, all the options have been taken away (create-a-player, team and so forth.) No mini-camp which has been in Madden for years now. The one plus is that the graphics are much better than the versions for other systems but personally if I want to play this game I will play it on my PS2 before touching this game again on my 360.

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Disappointment
Reviewed By: Jay Date: Saturday, April 29, 2006

This game was disappointing to say the least. Madden 06 for the XBox was the greatest Madden ever. But Madden 06 for the XBox 360 is not even close. The game is glitchy, it freezes alot, you can't challenge plays, the owner mode is weak & the gameplay is terrible. The only good thing about this game is the graphics. The players look pretty realistic. Stay with the XBox Madden, you'll be happier. I hope they go back to the old style Madden for 2007



These are just the TOP 2 reviews. Imagine what the rest of the reviews are like.

[Eddie]

Over the years it's gotten much better. The gameplay has gotten smoother, player movement more natural, it feels different every year.


So basically, every year they tweak the game alittle ... and charge you another $50. That sounds good to me.



Don't be ridiculous, you can already do that. But then, how would I draw the safeties right, only to hit a streaking Glenn down the left side at the last second? :)

How innovative. A real QB flashlight? Hold it, if I turned it off, isn't that Madden 2005???


How about the power to kill a yak, from 300 yards, with mind bullets?

THAT'S TELELKINESIS KYLE!!!!!!!!!!

Nope ... but the biggest feature of Madden 2007 is the clouds move.

[stealth]

i havent even played 2k guess its time to start scouring the bargain bins

I like ncaa football better than madden though

[Eddie]

i havent even played 2k guess its time to start scouring the bargain bins

I like ncaa football better than madden though


You can find it used for $2.99.

It's the best three dollars you'll ever spend in your life. Hours and hours of endless play.

Get the A/R and update the rosters. Instantly, you'll have ESPN NFL 2k7.

[superpunk]

So basically, every year they tweak the game alittle ... and charge you another $50. That sounds good to me.

A tank of gas. Cry me a river.

How innovative. A real QB flashlight? Hold it, if I turned it off, isn't that Madden 2005???...........Nope ... but the biggest feature of Madden 2007 is the clouds move.

And you know all this by playing all the games, right?;)

[Eddie]

A tank of gas. Cry me a river.

Sollie chollie. 2000 through 2007 is 8 games ... at $50 a game that's $400. For the same freakin' game!!!

No wonder you're crying.



And you know all this by playing all the games, right?;)

Absolutely ... doesn't take a year to figure out it's the same game.

Lemme see ... let's play Madden football.

Take two minutes to realize throwing 50 yard bombs is ALWAYS completed.

Here's what you're getting for you $50 ...

Changes from Madden 06 to Madden 07 -

1) Cover boy is now Shaun Alexander
- careful of that Madden curse, don't break a leg

2) Roster updates
- will be out of date by the time the game is released

3) New moves
a) new swim move lets you do breast stroke
b) turns off QB flashlight for CPU
c) new jump stick, let's players of different jumping
ability jump to different heights
d) "updated" graphics ... sky now has moving clouds

[stealth]

You can find it used for $2.99.

It's the best three dollars you'll ever spend in your life. Hours and hours of endless play.

Get the A/R and update the rosters. Instantly, you'll have ESPN NFL 2k7.

the best three dollars I ever spent was when my lawyer buddy wrote up my divorce papers for a big mac but it could be a close second.

[superpunk]

Sollie chollie. 2000 through 2007 is 8 games ... at $50 a game that's $400. For the same freakin' game!!!

No wonder you're crying.


A tank of gas, once a year, for 8 years. It's devastating to my bank account.:eek:

[Eddie]

the best three dollars I ever spent was when my lawyer buddy wrote up my divorce papers for a big mac but it could be a close second.


See ... for the price of a Big Mac you can have the best pixelated football game EVER.

Two years down the pipe and it's still the best football game out there ... without having to spend $400 on the same game.

[Aryma]

I like realism and sim so I went with 2K. It isnt like 2K fans sprouted up out of nothing.. we played Madden at some point. I stopped buying Madden after the 2001 version up untill I got 2006 for PC. I still think NFL 2K5 is still the best football game out right now ( not even close really ). Cant beat the on field action 2K5 offers.

Madden 2006
http://compsimgames.about.com/od/maddennfl2006/ss/madden2006scr5_6.htm (http://compsimgames.about.com/od/maddennfl2006/ss/madden2006scr5_6.htm)

Madden 2001
http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/pc/screenshots/madden-nfl-2001-4f8a12.html

Doesnt look to different to me.

NFL 2K5 for Xbox
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpagesscreens/920177.asp?screenid=9

NFl 2K1 for Dreamcast
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpagesscreens/914206.asp?screenid=10

Heh.. 2K1 looks as good as Madden 06

[BeWare94]

This debate is irrelevant anyway because Madden is the NFL's official game. Period. We don't have to sit through anymore bad 2K football games. Thank !!

[BeWare94]

http://www.nesfiles.com/NES/10_Yard_Fight/10_Yard_Fight_cart.jpg

Don't forget my all time favorite, Tecmo Super Bowl. LOL

[actual29]

never was a fan of 2k games until madden 2005 disappointed me
and i figured id give 2k5 a shot since it was only 20 bucks
and i loved it

graphics are FAARRR SUPERIOR to maddens
and if u cant see that then idk wut to tell u (btw, my sig is a low res capture from the game)
in addition, the presentation is phenomenal!!!
i love when they bring out the chains and players crowd around to see the results
stuff like that makes it more fun
cuz not only r u playin a game but u can jus sit back and feel like ur watchin a game...with the halftime shows, sportcenter, and the way they present the superbowl makes it feel like THE SUPERBOWL, not jus another game

jus brought the 2k5 back out cuz i found out about all the AR stuff u can do to it
and i freakin cant stop playin it now!!! having everythng updated to the day is amazing

plus i love hearing berman say 'WHHOOOP! ITS A FUMBLE!'

[demdcowboys#1]

Madden

[superpunk]

plus i love hearing berman say 'WHHOOOP! ITS A FUMBLE!'

I hate Berman. That alone would scare me off.

But, I'll probably go pick it up today. There's nothing that could unseat Madden for me, it's tradition, but if I can get this, and be playing with TO and Ayodele and Vanderjagt until Madden comes out, why not? I'll give it a try.

[davidyee]

You can find it used for $2.99.

It's the best three dollars you'll ever spend in your life. Hours and hours of endless play.

Get the A/R and update the rosters. Instantly, you'll have ESPN NFL 2k7.

...I bought Madden 2003 for the kids on their GameCube. I don't want them playing on the computers. Bad enough there's the GameCube and TV.

What do I do to get the newest rosters for the kids on their GC? Can I get 2K for GC also?

[superpunk]

...I bought Madden 2003 for the kids on their GameCube. I don't want them playing on the computers. Bad enough there's the GameCube and TV.

What do I do to get the newest rosters for the kids on their GC? Can I get 2K for GC also?

I'm not sure there's any way to modify GC games rosters - at least I've never heard of any. And I'm almost positive the 2K series was not for GC.

[davidyee]

I'm not sure there's any way to modify GC games rosters - at least I've never heard of any. And I'm almost positive the 2K series was not for GC.

...are young so I won't allow them to play with any system other than GC. I want some control over the titles they play at this age.

I guess I'm stuck with waiting for the price of Madden to fall at the end of the season before getting the newest roster.

[Future]

Ha ha. Madden 2007 for the 360 was so watered down and pushed out it was pathetic. Half the NFL rules don't apply. There's absolutely NO depth to the game. It's ALL graphics. Which is fine and good. May as well go play Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball or some other button mashing game.


I assume you mean madden 2006...it was not designed to be that great of a game. It was produced simply to test graphics on the 360 and see what needed to be changed so that they could make the 2007 version better. You cannot use a first year game for a console in this type of discussion.

And as for all of the "bells and whistles" you constantly refer to, they are what makes games change. You cannot change gameplay considerably every year because football is football, what are you gonna do eliminate passing?

And the jumping argument that someone made, this is an example of how much you can actually do in madden. From what I've played of 2k series controlling defenders and things of this sort cannot even compare. If a person learns all of the intricacies of the Madden game like user catches and precision passing the 2k series does not even come close.

[Da Hammer]

i never played the 2k series so i have to say Madden is better.

[Gibbs II]

I hate Berman. That alone would scare me off.

But, I'll probably go pick it up today. There's nothing that could unseat Madden for me, it's tradition, but if I can get this, and be playing with TO and Ayodele and Vanderjagt until Madden comes out, why not? I'll give it a try.

You seem like such a child on this forum.

Tradition? Thats your reason? No, its called they have you hooked on its product. You got suckered in to think that its "Tradition". ITs a video game for 's sake and although its "nostalgic" to think about the game 10 years ago and now. You think it takes 10 years to get from where they were to where they are now if they really tried???

I have an idea for the game, fix the bugs now.

All madden is ridiculous as your team is completely retarded.

Presentation is non existant while 2k made it feel like a real broadcast.

Commentating was so much better.

TACKLING!!! Yes, there is this thing called tackling in 2k, I know many of you madden guys dont know what it is, but its actualy when you "Wrap up" a guy and bring him down.


There are tons of errors in the game which madden needs to address.

[theogt]

Whatever Eddie chooses, I'm likely to choose the opposite. Therefore, I pick Madden.

[VirusX]

Whatever Eddie chooses, I'm likely to choose the opposite. Therefore, I pick Madden.

:laugh2:

[VirusX]

Holy smokes, EA has you in their back pockets.

How much better than the graphics be? How about looking at the graphics for 2k5 and answer that one yourself.

Sorry bro, I'm not falling for EA's media campaign. I'm not paying $50 every year for the same game ... albeit new cover boy, updated rosters, and some bells and whistles.

Man, imagine Hollywood offering the same thing with their movies?

Star Wars - the Original
Star Wars - the updated and expanded edition
Star Wars - with new interactive media
Star Wars - with new cover and gold trim
Star Wars - 5th anniversary edition
Star Wars - with new intro by George Lucas
Star Wars - with deleted Princess Leah in bikini scene
Star Wars - with new and improved features

This is what Madden football is. Madden 2007 is nothing more than Madden 2000 with updated rosters, bells and whistles.

What's next? The ability to turn off the QB flashlight?

How about the ability to jump high?

Sorry ... but EA got you guys in their grips and it's hilarious how everyone buys the same game year in and year out.

I called this very early. What reply #2, MAN IM GOOD! :shades:

[Future]

You think it takes 10 years to get from where they were to where they are now if they really tried???

Yes, they can only go as far as the systems available allow them to. Do you think what they do now was possible on the original playstation?

All madden is ridiculous as your team is completely retarded.
Only if you are awful at the game. It allows for a human element of thinking combined with gameplay that most sports games lack greatly.

Presentation is non existant while 2k made it feel like a real broadcast.
Commentating was so much better.
I happen to think that madden is one of the best, and if you want a broadcast go watch TV.

TACKLING!!! Yes, there is this thing called tackling in 2k, I know many of you madden guys dont know what it is, but its actualy when you "Wrap up" a guy and bring him down.
Yes, and i dont ever get stopped on madden so i score a TD every play. This argument makes no sense as wrap ups, shoelace tackles, and double teams happen constantly. The hit stick allows once again for the human element to come more into play while adding a fun effect.


and your a redskin fan so your perspective of what is good is wrong anyways lol

[JonJon]

i never played the 2k series so i have to say Madden is better.

You have never played the 2k series therefor you shouldn't have an opinion on the matter. I own both games (NFL 2K5 and Madden 06). Currently, 2K5 sits in my Xbox with updated rosters while Madden is currently stuffed somewhere in my closet collecting dust. I'm thinking about using it as a coaster for my iced tea, or perhaps as a frisbee. Madden 06 is a joke. The gameplay is nowhere near realistic, which has become the norm for any EA related product, and as many have already stated, the graphics engine has not been upgraded in some time. EA has made minor improvements to their current engine every year, but the actual engine has not seen a significant upgrade, such as player models for about 5 years. 2K5 has is problems, too, such as the NFL draft in which the CPU only selects a QB, RB, DE, or OT in the first round, but as far as realism and gameplay, even graphics, Madden 06 does not compare to 2K5.

[Rack Bauer]

Whatever Eddie chooses, I'm likely to choose the opposite. Therefore, I pick Madden.


From what I've read you can do that with anything in life and likely end up with the correct decision.


:D

[cstanton1987]

Madden all day all night

[Gibbs II]

Yes, they can only go as far as the systems available allow them to. Do you think what they do now was possible on the original playstation

Actually, I should apologize, Madden 95 had better fundamentals than madden 05. Because of what you said, the capabilities. In 95, they knew they couldnt do a lot of stuff so they stuck to solid gameplay. Then, when the ps2 came out, they thought they could just screw it all up. Plus, do you really think that in 03, or 02, or around that time, the idea of a QB cone for "realism" wasnt ever mentioned? What about a hitstick? These ideas are layed out but they are implemented years later so they can have some excuse to call the game "new".


Only if you are awful at the game. It allows for a human element of thinking combined with gameplay that most sports games lack greatly.

Actually, my average score in all madden is 48-13. Plus, as for the player getting more involved, I can see why they would do that, but madden does NOT do that. Many times, the guy on your team is already making their move to back away from the ball to let the WR get the ball. Or if you actually do try to cut it off, there is a penalty for PI. Also with my "parrenial pro-bowl" CB, he got flat out beat in my season about 8-10 times with deep passes. Then as I try to recover as him, the Saftey or other corner takes a pathetic angle of pursuit.


I happen to think that madden is one of the best, and if you want a broadcast go watch TV.

Simply wrong. You know, if thats how you think of it, why even bother adding anything that doesnt add directly to the playing of the football game in madden? I know why, because it puts different facets in the game that actually GO THE EXTRA STEP. It tries to put you in the experience, unlike madden with its dry presentation.


Yes, and i dont ever get stopped on madden so i score a TD every play. This argument makes no sense as wrap ups, shoelace tackles, and double teams happen constantly. The hit stick allows once again for the human element to come more into play while adding a fun effect.

Really, never get tackled? It was hard to read passed that ridiculous statement as it shows your credibility, but I did to humor you. Yes, they do happen "constantly" but thats about 70% of the time. The other 30% you magically bounce off, and this isnt when you simply get bullied out of tackling someone if they tuck the ball in (which should be able to tackle a little easier than what they game says), its when you simply slide off them when there is NO effect on the ballhandler whatsoever. Or, when I am the blitzing LB and come down and somehow Kyle Boler gets "pushed" foward by a man trying to kill him. About 5-8 times a game I stop the play to do a reply and see how bad the tackling is.


and your a redskin fan so your perspective of what is good is wrong anyways lol
lOL!!!!

[Aryma]

There are a few things that 2K has had before Madden which EA took and touted as their own.

1 ) Double WRs during prep or on the fly.

2 ) Hot blitz , move to man from zone easily. Everything touted in the " Defensive playmaker " 2K had before Madden.

3 ) Maximum Passing has been with 2K ever since the first game. You can lead a WR anywhere you want to squeeze the ball in. Got a DB running sride for stride on a streak? No problem. Throw the ball behind and to the outside and watch your WR come down with it.

Not to mention 2K has an awesome running game. Bettis runs like Bettis and Warrick Dunn runs like himself. The best way to tackle a power back is to wrap him up and let either the CPU clean up the play or you can switch players and finish it. Gang tackles .. A thing of beauty. You can also not expect to run over people with Dunn or juke people with Bettis.

Supieror defensive line play. You can speed rush , club , rip , swim , spin or bull rush. All with beautiful animations that fir the moment. Going to try to jump and swat the ball at the line? You may get it but eiter way you will be pancaked soon after you leave your feet.

RBs are actually smart since they stay in for a second incase of a blitz and if there isnt they continure their route.

A good defensive game without the defense making super jump swats or run as fast as flash to catch up to a WR while the ball is in the air. You see.. 2K actually has smart players instead of having the CPU psychic and with super human powers being touted as good AI.

Better player control with 2K.

Oh and guess what... 2K has all of the penatlies unlike Madden. What about having all of the running moves and more control over what happens?

Anything you think Madden does well 2K does better and more realisticly and then some.

If you want great graphics and realistic gameplay you want 2K.

If you want an arcade game with average graphics and unrealistic and robotic gameplay you want Madden.

Doesnt really matter anymore though since EA got scared and bought the rights to the NFL. Although there is a very simple way around that if 2K wanted to make a football game.

[BigDFan5]

http://www.vgmuseum.com/scans/nes/carts/10_yard_fight_cart.jpg

I had that one

and this one!

http://www.vgmuseum.com/images/genesis/01/Joe%20Montana%20Sports%20Talk%20Football%202.gif http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/games/coverg/57/607157.jpg

[Gibbs II]

Aynone els ehad SuperHighImpact Football?

[BigDFan5]

Aynone els ehad SuperHighImpact Football?

you can play this game online here http://www.consoleclassix.com/gameinfo_superhighimpact_smc.html


http://iep.ath.cx/cad/images/s/shimpact.png

[actual29]

But, I'll probably go pick it up today. There's nothing that could unseat Madden for me, it's tradition, but if I can get this, and be playing with TO and Ayodele and Vanderjagt until Madden comes out, why not? I'll give it a try.
yea man...that in itself makes the game worth while
not only wud u b playin w/ TO and vanderjagt and other FA pickups
but skyler greeen, carpenter, fasano, hatcher ( u get the point)

but dont jus play it once and give up on it
give it some time to get used to it

[Payton34Smith22]

I was a Madden freak untill 2k came out. I just liked it better.

I think the competition between these two companies was only making it better for all of us.
Tecmo Bowl, (1991) is still one of my fav football games too lol....:bow:

[Eddie]

...I bought Madden 2003 for the kids on their GameCube. I don't want them playing on the computers. Bad enough there's the GameCube and TV.

What do I do to get the newest rosters for the kids on their GC? Can I get 2K for GC also?


Dave, No 2k for the GameCube.

But do some researches on Madden roster updates. They're all over the place.

You just download the file, copy it over to the Action Replay for the GC, and load it onto the GC via Action Replay.

Voila. Instant Madden 07 ...

But I would definitely recommend getting the Xbox ... esp for NFL 2k5. The game is brilliant. The rosters are out of date, but you can download updated rosters via Action Replay for the Xbox, and have NFL 2k7 in an instant.

How's Kathy? I miss her.

Eddie

[royhitshard]

Madden.