Petitti update???

[Kittymama]

Since we're already being inundated by TO nonsense from media who clearly don't like him, we're all anxious to hear any info. Rob can give you about the guy from a player's perspective. (After mini-camp, of course.) Many of the Eagles players still seem to like him, so we'll be interested to hear what the Cowboys players come to think.

[Kittymama]

And oh yes, how is Rob doing? Did Parcells give him off-season instructions, like losing or gaining weight? What have workouts & the "voluntary" sessions been like?

[Charles]

Nice thread

Is he moving back to LT?

[SteveOS]

Has he posted since season's end? I hope he chimes in soon, to give us a scoop. :)

[Eddie]

I think I remember reading a few posts from Rob's dad a week or so ago.

I think he was talking about going to games in certain cities.

[austintodallas]

He posted yesterday in the HDTV thread...

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56160

[pittdawg]

Since we're already being inundated by TO nonsense from media who clearly don't like him, we're all anxious to hear any info. Rob can give you about the guy from a player's perspective. (After mini-camp, of course.) Many of the Eagles players still seem to like him, so we'll be interested to hear what the Cowboys players come to think.

don't know if rob has met TO yet. he has said that the players can work out at different times so that he may be at the complex when he isn't.

as for rob, he has been working out under the direction of joe jurasik since the third week of jan. first was to work on all the core muscles to strenghten his middle. next, his agility and running and light lifting. finally,with his lifting group( witten, rivera, and peterman) has been working to increase strength and conditioning. rob has made impressive strides and is much thinner waisted with noticible gain of muscle in chest, shoulders and arms. he says he feels much stronger and is moving much better in all drills and running.

[Cowboys&Caps]

Sounds great! hope he can keep up the good work and stay healthy.

[Yeagermeister]

don't know if rob has met TO yet. he has said that the players can work out at different times so that he may be at the complex when he isn't.

as for rob, he has been working out under the direction of joe jurasik since the third week of jan. first was to work on all the core muscles to strenghten his middle. next, his agility and running and light lifting. finally,with his lifting group( witten, rivera, and peterman) has been working to increase strength and conditioning. rob has made impressive strides and is much thinner waisted with noticible gain of muscle in chest, shoulders and arms. he says he feels much stronger and is moving much better in all drills and running.
Very good news.....Thanks DP

[THUMPER]

That is excellent to hear PittDawg. It should be a good battle for the starting RT spot in camp this year between Rob and Fabini.

[RCowboyFan]

Hey, even BP notices Pettiti. Remember he mentioned him being much more stronger than last year, not even comparable, was his word. I am expecting him to give Fabini real good competition for starting job. But Fabini might win it, based on his experience, if he is healed, but I am sure, Pettiti might not be far off.

I am really optimistic about Rob perhaps, but I really think, barring injuries, he might be the long term answer for RT at least, and probably future replacement at LT, if Adams retires or moves on etc.

[CrazyCowboy]

PittDawg, we appreciate that positive news on your son......keep it up!

[THUMPER]

Hey, even BP notices Pettiti. Remember he mentioned him being much more stronger than last year, not even comparable, was his word. I am expecting him to give Fabini real good competition for starting job. But Fabini might win it, based on his experience, if he is healed, but I am sure, Pettiti might not be far off.

I am really optimistic about Rob perhaps, but I really think, barring injuries, he might be the long term answer for RT at least, and probably future replacement at LT, if Adams retires or moves on etc.

Fabini has the experience but is coming off some injuries while Petitti has a year under his belt and is in excellent shape. Should make for a nice competition. Either way it leaves us with depth which we didn't have last year.

I wonder how the OTs group will pan out if Columbo is healthy. Adams is a lock at LT but depending on who wins the starting RT spot may determine who backs up at LT and RT.

[RCowboyFan]

Fabini has the experience but is coming off some injuries while Petitti has a year under his belt and is in excellent shape. Should make for a nice competition. Either way it leaves us with depth which we didn't have last year.

I wonder how the OTs group will pan out if Columbo is healthy. Adams is a lock at LT but depending on who wins the starting RT spot may determine who backs up at LT and RT.

Or both could be swing OTs? I think if Starters are set, we might have good backups this year, but thats a BIG IF.

[JackMagist]

Great news Pittdawg; it is exactly what I was hoping for and expecting. I still believe that Rob will Be The Man. With him getting into "Professional" shape I believe he will keep his starting job and will kick some butt this year.

[pittdawg]

That is excellent to hear PittDawg. It should be a good battle for the starting RT spot in camp this year between Rob and Fabini.

i think you're right, rob would never let anyone just take his spot. he has worked his butt off, literally, to be ready for this season. i have learned never to count him out.

[Hostile]

i think you're right, rob would never let anyone just take his spot. he has worked his butt off, literally, to be ready for this season. i have learned never to count him out.There is no chance, no fate, no destiny, that can circumvent, or hinder, or control, the firm resolve of a determined soul.

I forget who said that, but it's always been one of my favorite quotes.

[adbutcher]

There is no chance, no fate, no destiny, that can circumvent, or hinder, or control, the firm resolve of a determined soul.

I forget who said that, but it's always been one of my favorite quotes.
:hammer:

[RCowboyFan]

There is no chance, no fate, no destiny, that can circumvent, or hinder, or control, the firm resolve of a determined soul.

I forget who said that, but it's always been one of my favorite quotes.

Thats one great quote, one which I firmly believe in. Even when I offer excuses of not accomplishing something, I know in my mind, I just didn't try hard enough.

[Portland Fanatic]

i think you're right, rob would never let anyone just take his spot. he has worked his butt off, literally, to be ready for this season. i have learned never to count him out.

I believe some think that Fabini will automatically get the start...no way man! Fabini has to beat a determined young player out to start...not the other way around.

I think most forget that Rob got dinged last year because of his combine weight...if he was in the shape he's in now at the combine he'd be considered a first day pick.

One year of experience, much better shape, determined...I like his chances. All being even between the two, you go with the youth and future at the position.

Most of us here are rooting for Rob to win out...good luck to him!

[Yeagermeister]

I believe some think that Fabini will automatically get the start...no way man! Fabini has to beat a determined young player out to start...not the other way around.

I think most forget that Rob got dinged last year because of his combine weight...if he was in the shape he's in now at the combine he'd be considered a first day pick.

One year of experience, much better shape, determined...I like his chances. All being even between the two, you go with the youth and future at the position.

Most of us here are rooting for Rob to win out...good luck to him!
I'm hoping he lives up to his number this year

[kmd24]

There is no chance, no fate, no destiny, that can circumvent, or hinder, or control, the firm resolve of a determined soul.

I forget who said that, but it's always been one of my favorite quotes.

Ella Wheeler Wilcox

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/ellawheele121936.html

[AbeBeta]

I believe some think that Fabini will automatically get the start...no way man! Fabini has to beat a determined young player out to start...not the other way around.

Actually, I think if BP had his druthers, Rob would beat out Fabini and we'd have a very good backup for both positions in Fabs.

[Portland Fanatic]

Actually, I think if BP had his druthers, Rob would beat out Fabini and we'd have a very good backup for both positions in Fabs.

Agreed...

[sago1]

Remember Parcells saying Pettiti really developed physically in off season but said nothing about whether he competiting for backup or starter job. While many on this board think Pettiti could compete against Fabini for starting job, I'm inclined to think Fabini wins the job this year but Pettiti hopefully beats him out in 07 and becomes our long-term starter at RT. But of course this depends on Fabini being completely healthy and he did pass the Cowboys physical before we signed him (although he failed physical with Tampa I believe).

Parcells also had good things to say about Colombo's physical development; he compared Colombo's work ethic/time working out at VR with Newman whose supposedly #1 working out at VR. Went on to say Colombo would be competing for backup job. Don't know if he meant Colombo unable realistically compete for starter job or if the starter jobs already set (like Adams at LT & in Parcells mind maybe Fabini at RT as well)). And of course the media asked no followup questions--which is norm for them unless TO or some other controversial subject being discussed.

Hope we learn something in minicamp. If we hear Colombo (but not Pettiti or Fabini) playing at LT at any point, it could mean Parcells trying him out there to see if he could backup Adams. If Fabini were to win (as many assume) RT starting job, maybe Parcells would rather have someone else fill in for Adams (maybe for just a few plays or 1 game or so rather then disrupt OL continuity by moving Fabini over to LT and start Pettiti at RT. On the other hand we rarely have a clue what Parcells thinking.

[cowboyjoe]

Well, I disagree with some of you fellas, don't misunderstand me, I am hoping that Petti is our next great ROT. He kinda reminds me of Erik Williams. Williams didnt do anything his first year, and came into his own his 2nd year.

At one pre draft report they had Rob Petti at 6-6 329 at 5.16 in 40, same qualities as Erik Williams. Yet, I am thinking that Fabini will take place of ROT till Petti is ready.

Case in point, I am sure you guys remember Ryan Young, OT that used to play for the Jets with Parcells. that came to the Cowboys in 2003 and played well till end of November and December. Fabini can teach Petti some things, while Rob Petti gets into shape, learns.

So, I am not counting him out, but Fabini could start, while Rob learns. My question for Pittdawg is, how is Rob's foot doing? That to me, is one key area Rob has to work on, his foot injury, quickness.

See that way, Fabini could start, Rob takes over by mid season, and then Fabini could push Flozell to play better too. Also, Fabini could teach our young OT's too.

[Hostile]

Ella Wheeler Wilcox

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/ellawheele121936.html

That's it. Thank you.

[Alexander]

He kinda reminds me of Erik Williams. Williams didnt do anything his first year, and came into his own his 2nd year.

How on earth could you draw that comparison? Beyond the #79, there isn't any.

[BlueStar22]

Rob hasn't met T.O.? The guy has already torn the locker room apart.

[sago1]

Followup to my earlier posting. Believe our signing Fabini as our RT rather then a younger FA RT (besides Jones being unable pay starting RT big bucks to young player) says a lot about Cowboy hopes. Unless the plan was to draft a young OT in 2nd/3rd round (which didn't happen) to contest/groom behind Fabini, it easy might be Parcells hopes Pettiti can win the starting job if not in 06 then in 07.

I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.

Also did anyone notice Pittdawgs' comment that Peterman was in same group with Pettiti in working out. Hopefully Peterman exhibited same hard work ethic shown by both Pettiti and Colombo -- along with Spears, Ware & Newman.

BTW: Colombo will be the wild card in all of this. If both he and Pettiti show (at very minimum) that both will be pretty good backups this year/with starting potential --both have hearts & are extremely hard working -- we may have our future starting OTs on the team for years to come.

Now, while we still got to worry somewhat about Colombo, maybe the gods will smile this year and Peterman actually looks good too. Then all we got to worry about is Kosier and Johnson/Gurode. Geez I'm tired worrying about our OL & afraid even to think injuries.

[cowboyjoe]

Followup to my earlier posting. Believe our signing Fabini as our RT rather then a younger FA RT (besides Jones being unable pay starting RT big bucks to young player) says a lot about Cowboy hopes. Unless the plan was to draft a young OT in 2nd/3rd round (which didn't happen) to contest/groom behind Fabini, it easy might be Parcells hopes Pettiti can win the starting job if not in 06 then in 07.

Those are my thoughts too. I think the Cowboys really wanted Colledge OT, but he was chosen 2 spots above us, best I remember. So, they settled for TE. I think too, either Rob Petti will take over by mid season, or 2007 for sure.

Fabini is a stop gap measure till Petti is ready. Then, you add in Columbo, that really makes us look good. Before you jump all over me, for following remarks guys. If Columbo shows his stuff this year, you just might see Flozell Adams traded next year. Columbo is 2 years younger than Flozell.

Reportedly next year is another strong year for OT's in the NFL Draft. So, my thinking is they will grab one next year for sure, along with a young WR. The defense is pretty well fixed, except for a good NT, if Stanly or Johnson cant fill the bill.

Then, I am still hopeful that Stephen Peterman is one of our young offensive guards. Reports are that Al Johnson has increased his strength and size by 15 pounds or so to handle bigger DT's and NT's. Gurode is ok, if his head is finally on straight.

I too am tired of worrying about out offensive line, if they can hold up. But I am hopeful that our defense will finally reach its peak, and be a NASTY, NASTY BAD DEFENSE.

I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.

Also did anyone notice Pittdawgs' comment that Peterman was in same group with Pettiti in working out. Hopefully Peterman exhibited same hard work ethic shown by both Pettiti and Colombo -- along with Spears, Ware & Newman.

BTW: Colombo will be the wild card in all of this. If both he and Pettiti show (at very minimum) that both will be pretty good backups this year/with starting potential --both have hearts & are extremely hard working -- we may have our future starting OTs on the team for years to come.

Now, while we still got to worry somewhat about Colombo, maybe the gods will smile this year and Peterman actually looks good too. Then all we got to worry about is Kosier and Johnson/Gurode. Geez I'm tired worrying about our OL & afraid even to think injuries.

[mperfection]

I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.
That's funny...because that's EXACTLY what Erik Williams did in his 2nd year...and I believe he was drafted somewhere between the 6-8th rounds.

I'll go on record right now and say that, barring a catastrophic injury, Rob Petitti will become a VERY good STARTING OT for the Cowboys.

[cowboyjoe]

I agree with you, I think Petti will come on strong by mid season, just like Erik Williams did. That's why I said, Fabini will start, he has the experience and savvy, till Rob is ready.


But to clarify up something, Williams was a 3rd round draft choice.

[Portland Fanatic]

I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.


This is where my opinion differs...he was 6th round pick because he was weighing in at 360 or so. When a good player is out of shape at combines, pro days etc... he will get tagged as lazy etc. Since he's been here playing with BP he has been everything but lazy.

I think he has an excellent chance of winning the competition between with Fabini, infact I'm not convinced Fabini was brought in to start unless he just simply shows to be that much better to Pettiti...which won't happen.

My prediction is that Pettiti will start and Fab will be the swing OT.

That's my hope anyways...

[mperfection]

I agree with you, I think Petti will come on strong by mid season, just like Erik Williams did. That's why I said, Fabini will start, he has the experience and savvy, till Rob is ready.


But to clarify up something, Williams was a 3rd round draft choice.
I stand corrected, sir. Thank you!

[hipfake08]

Then, I am still hopeful that Stephen Peterman is one of our young offensive guards. Reports are that Al Johnson has increased his strength and size by 15 pounds or so to handle bigger DT's and NT's. Gurode is ok, if his head is finally on straight.


I'll go with this also.

[Doomsday101]

This is where my opinion differs...he was 6th round pick because he was weighing in at 360 or so. When a good player is out of shape at combines, pro days etc... he will get tagged as lazy etc. Since he's been here playing with BP he has been everything but lazy.

I think he has an excellent chance of winning the competition between with Fabini, infact I'm not convinced Fabini was brought in to start unless he just simply shows to be that much better to Pettiti...which won't happen.

My prediction is that Pettiti will start and Fab will be the swing OT.

That's my hope anyways...

I think Fabini was clearly brought it to be the starter, I like Pettiti and if he can win the job great but I think this is Fabini job to lose.

[jazzcat22]

Or both could be swing OTs? I think if Starters are set, we might have good backups this year, but thats a BIG IF.

With my rose colored glasses on, I think we will be pleasantly surprised with the OL this year (barring injuries of course). No matter who starts at RT, he will have earned the starting position. We have 3 OL's to compete at RT, and if all stay healty, the best at the time will be there with quality back up.

It may not be the best situation in the NFL, but it's a start.

[BARRYRAY]

Look I don't mean to be critical but didn't Petititi lead the league in sacks by a RT, he's got a real long ways to go but it sounds like at least he's trying to improve anyway..

[junk]

Actually, I think if BP had his druthers, Rob would beat out Fabini and we'd have a very good backup for both positions in Fabs.

Whoever loses is the swing tackle.

Personally, I think Fabini will win....he has been a very solid pro and I think many here underestimate him.

However, for the long term success of the club, it'd be nice for Petitti to win the job.

[Doomsday101]

Look I don't mean to be critical but didn't Petititi lead the league in sacks by a RT, he's got a real long ways to go but it sounds like at least he's trying to improve anyway..

I agree. I'm hoping the best for him but he has a lot of work ahead of him and that should be expected from a guy who was a 6th rd pick. He really was over whelmed when Dallas could not slide some help to his side and we can't afford to be doing that this year.

[burmafrd]

There were a lot of reasons Petitti was overwhelmed- but most of them seem to be fixable. If he can move up to be a solid starter this year we would be in very good shape.

[Eddie]

That's funny...because that's EXACTLY what Erik Williams did in his 2nd year...and I believe he was drafted somewhere between the 6-8th rounds.

I'll go on record right now and say that, barring a catastrophic injury, Rob Petitti will become a VERY good STARTING OT for the Cowboys.


Erik Williams was a 3rd rounder.

[Doomsday101]

There were a lot of reasons Petitti was overwhelmed- but most of them seem to be fixable. If he can move up to be a solid starter this year we would be in very good shape.

No doubt he can improve and I think sometimes folks don't realize how tough of a position Tackle can be, your going up against some of the best pass rushers in the game and they know how to get big men off balance and completely frustrate a tackle. Mark Tuinei ended up being a very good tackle for us but he was getting his ars kicked for a while but he learned and Petitti is young and hopefully he will learn. After all this is not 2 big men bumping bellies there is a lot of technique involved with being a lineman and more so being a tackle

[Tristan]

Pittdawg,

Very exciting to hear that Rob has made so much improvement physically.

I was curious like so many here are about Peterman. We never seem to hear anything about him and I noticed that you mentioned he was in Rob's workout group. Could you possibly get Rob's opinion on Petermans situation, are the coaches still high on him? does he feel that he will be a starter anytime soon?, what kind of shape is he in? etc.

I would also really love to know what Rob's opinion is on the prospects of some of his other line mates for this year are, like Rivera (healthy? in great shape?) How does Flozzel seem to be coming along? What is Rob's impression so far of Kosier?

I know thats quite a lot to ask, but many of us feel that the success of our offensive line this year will be the determining factor for our teams ultimate potential, would love to hear some good news.

As always your insights are greatly appreciated.

[cowboyjoe]

Right Doomsday, Offensive tacke is really hard to learn, then if you take in, it takes 2-3 years for offensive line to jell together, makes it really tough. Next, you have the Giants 2 dominating defensive ends teaching you a lesson too.

Added into that, Petti was 360 at senior bowl or close to it. But his senior year, scouts reports had him listed at 6-6, 329 and 5.16 in 40. He even dominated the quick defensive end from the colts-Dwight Freeney. And we all know how Freeney killed Flozell Adams one year with his quick pass rush.

True about Tuneii, he played for like 6-7 years before he came into his own. I still think though Rob Petti reminds me of Erik Williams, 6-6 330, with 5.16 in 40 yard dash. And we all know how mean and nasty Erik was, along with talented. I dont think Rob is quite that athletic, but he is close, if he works on it.

Got to remember he had some kind of foot injury. Another guy you can put in that category that was even a free agent is Nate Newton, if you remember the first 2-3 years, with Jimmy Johnson, Coach Johnson even put Newton at right offensive tackle, he was best we had till Erik Williams came into his own. Jimmy Johnson installed him as starting right tackle in 1990. He was named the Cowboys' Offensive MVP by Pro Football Weekly. He moved back to left guard when Erik Williams came along. With Nate making some pro bowls himself.

Here's a cool link for the Dallas Cowboys offensive linemen that you guys and ladies might like.
http://users.conwaycorp.net/tstone/Linemen.html

[Bob Sacamano]

thanks for the news Pittdawg! and good to hear that he's thinning out in the middle area, he was pretty pudgy there a year ago, but he still could kick my arse ;)

[lzppjb]

Another good quote to go by...
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[RealCowboyfan]

thanks for the news Pittdawg! and good to hear that he's thinning out in the middle area, he was pretty pudgy there a year ago, but he still could kick my arse ;)

WHAT HE SAID^:star: