Is it just me or...

[Coakleys Dad]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?:trophy:

[SkinsandTerps]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?:trophy:

Anxious would probably be the best term for most people, whether Cowboys fans or not.

[Portland Fanatic]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?:trophy:

Excited...how about :ralph: :puke:

[BrAinPaiNt]

The only time I will be excited about seeing TO is when he is scoring a TD.

Otherwise I would rather not see or hear the guy.:mad:

[Eddie]

Excited...how about :ralph: :puke:


Agreed.

How did we embrace the loser who disrespected our star?

[Waffle]

The only time I will be excited about seeing TO is when he is scoring a TD.

Otherwise I would rather not see or hear the guy.:mad:

:hammer:

[Chief]

Agreed.

How did we embrace the loser who disrespected our star?

"Red rover, red rover, send TO right over."

[Portland Fanatic]

Agreed.

How did we embrace the loser who disrespected our star?

He can score 20 TD's this year and I will never forgive him. Standards have changed to much for my liking...he defiled the star, therfore he is evil :laugh1:

Seriously, my hopes this season are that he opens the door for Glenn and Witten to have huge seasons...I could care less about his stats.

[Yeagermeister]

:hammer:
:signmast:

[stilltheguru]

lol at the bitterness.:lmao:


TO=my dude right now.forget the haters.

[Hostile]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?:trophy:I'm sure it isn't just you, but it isn't me.

[Sportsbabe]

TO=my dude right now.

:laugh2: You are such a **. Can't you at least wait until he scores a touchdown:D

(I'm just yanking your chain. Don 't catch feelings.)

[TheOneROWilliE]

im excited, i wanna see how he gets along with the other players ro if he is ggod friends with someone else on the team...u know stuff like that but what im more excited about is seeing D-Ware after a whole offseason he is going to be a BEAST

[stilltheguru]

i hated TO all the way up until last year for his little star thing but how long are people gonna hold that grudge?


as far as his antics HE RUINED TWO OF OUR RIVALS.why are we mad at that?lol

[Portland Fanatic]

I'm curious to the age of fans and their like vs. dislike for TO???

Maybe I'll do a poll, but my hypothesis is that we will find a direct correlation to youth accepting TO vs. old school and dislike for TO...Hmmmmmmm

[SkinsandTerps]

I'm curious to the age of fans and their like vs. dislike for TO???

Maybe I'll do a poll, but my hypothesis is that we will find a direct correlation to youth accepting TO vs. old school and dislike for TO...Hmmmmmmm

Do a search. I am almost positive that a very similar poll was done within the last 6 months.

[TheOneROWilliE]

Im 18 years old and i just hope that T.O helps us get to the promise land as far as his stats and stuff i really dont care, but dont get me wrong its not a bad thing that he is on the team ,i think the cowboys have made some moves that i didnt like but that never stoped me from loving this team before, so why now right?

[SteveOS]

I'm bringin' my popcorn, it's gonna be a show. :)

[stilltheguru]

you can hate me all yall want to but you cant stop me!



:D i love that quote from TO

[TheOneROWilliE]

lol yah ill bring some 2

[Hostile]

i hated TO all the way up until last year for his little star thing but how long are people gonna hold that grudge?


as far as his antics HE RUINED TWO OF OUR RIVALS.why are we mad at that?lolFor me it isn't about the star incident. I have issues with a WR who publicly bags on his QB.

[stilltheguru]

but they were qbs that were not cowboys qbs.why should we care?


when he blasts drew then we will have a problem but i dont think that will happen.

[SkinsandTerps]

For me it isn't about the star incident. I have issues with a WR who publicly bags on his QB.

The star incident would have been enough for me. That is just a total slap in the face for the team, fans, and franchise.

But his off-field antics and need to be in the spotlight have always been the thing that puts him over the top as far as dislike.

[Hostile]

but they were qbs that were not cowboys qbs.why should we care?


when he blasts drew then we will have a problem but i dont think that will happen.Because I care about the game of football. I was taught to respect your QB and not tear him down because the team needs confidence in him. It's okay to have doubts. It is not okay to publicly roast him.

It's like when Parcells and the coaching staff left practice in 2003 and Richie Anderson stepped up and took over. It pissed me off. The FB, even if he is the Coach's advocate, should not speak over the QB. It's his team. If that isn't respected, the team goes nowhere.

It has nothing to do with the 9ers or the Eagles. I hate them. I respect the position of QB on a football team. When someone disrespects it like that, it bugs me.

I can't explain it any better.

[Hostile]

The star incident would have been enough for me. That is just a total slap in the face for the team, fans, and franchise.

But his off-field antics and need to be in the spotlight have always been the thing that puts him over the top as far as dislike.That doesn't bother me anymore. Teague and Emmitt took the sting of that away for me. My pride in them was greater than my anger at him. Roy horse collaring him to the injured list helped.

I find that no more offensive than I do any celebration. It was inapropriate, but even his team apologized for that through Mooch. At that point it is better to let it go. Message sent.

[MS17]

Im among those who are equally intrigued with Owens' considerable WR talents and skills as I am his stupefying, incredibly mindless and dumb antics on the sidelines and quips with sports reporters. I cant even fathom how great QBs like our own Staubach, Jurgensen, Unitas, Starr, Dawson, Bradshaw and others would have reacted with a player like T.O. on the same roster. No doubt he adds a lot of octane to an offense....but to the detriment of a team's focus and cohesivness?
Im anxious for TC to start and all, but Im still troubled by the potential for problems the player brings to this team.
Another T.O. thread, please!!!

[Portland Fanatic]

For me it isn't about the star incident. I have issues with a WR who publicly bags on his QB.

They both bother me...but I have to agree that calling out a team mate in public is just wrong! I'm not sure which bothers me most, but together it makes for a strong dislike of the player.

[Doomsday101]

They both bother me...but I have to agree that calling out a team mate in public is just wrong! I'm not sure which bothers me most, but together it makes for a strong dislike of the player.

For me it is easy, while I think the star incident was classless I never gave it much thought afterwards. Calling teammates out in the media I find very disturbing and that is my biggest fear for the Cowboys.

[Alexander]

Because I care about the game of football. I was taught to respect your QB and not tear him down because the team needs confidence in him. It's okay to have doubts. It is not okay to publicly roast him.

It's like when Parcells and the coaching staff left practice in 2003 and Richie Anderson stepped up and took over. It pissed me off. The FB, even if he is the Coach's advocate, should not speak over the QB. It's his team. If that isn't respected, the team goes nowhere.

It has nothing to do with the 9ers or the Eagles. I hate them. I respect the position of QB on a football team. When someone disrespects it like that, it bugs me.

I can't explain it any better.

It was also Garcia and McNabb's duty as team leaders to step up as such and slap down the petulant child in Owens. They stood for it in the lockerroom and allowed him to take it to the media.

Strife goes on against the QB all the time. A poor leader allows it to continue. That's why I hold both of them just as accountable in a manner of speaking because they didn't take matters into their own hands. They responded with a victim performance through the media. A QB who is the leader doesn't stand for it. And they certainly don't go wailing back to management and the media complaining. They handle it.

[Coakleys Dad]

Im 35, and i understand that he disrespected the star. point made, but as a wide reciever he is top 3 in the league, and i am excited of what he brings to the field every play. Im happy hes here, and i think he is going to make us unstoppable if the oline can hold up, sorry if i pissed anyone off by starting this thread but i love the old school cowboys and our history, but i cant help but be excited about havin T.O..

[jazzcat22]

That doesn't bother me anymore. Teague and Emmitt took the sting of that away for me. My pride in them was greater than my anger at him. Roy horse collaring him to the injured list helped.

I find that no more offensive than I do any celebration. It was inapropriate, but even his team apologized for that through Mooch. At that point it is better to let it go. Message sent.


Agree, the STAR incident is over. Agree also in another post about disrespect to your QB and team. Now, not to defend TO, we don't know the entire situation (wait for the book :rolleyes: ). But you still should not be dis respectful when you know the public will be all over it. Maybe that's the way he thought he needed to get his point across.
Everyone makes mistakes, TO's is just National news everyday.

I hated TO at first for the Star incident at the time, but now it's over. But the guy is GOOD, so if you don't want to see it, keep him from scoring. But you have to admit, some of his TD things were pretty good.

How many people hated Prime Time for his TD celebrations..how many loved it when he scored for us. How many people hated Irvin when he started his FIRST DOWN gesture...we loved it. One coach said they need to keep Irvin out of the endzone...because when he scores he celebrates way to much and it gets the fans and team fired up. How many of those opposing fans just hated him...we loved it. TO's celebrations were just 'different'

I am still undecided about him, but glad he is on our team. I am just going to sit back and see what happens, not be over hyped about anything right now.

TO's first TD:
Would you love to see a cool TD celebration...or how about he just runs and gives the refs the ball, or hands it to Drew.
Better yet, he and Drew both sign it in quiet on the sidelines, and during a break takes it to a fan in the stands.

[Alexander]

Maybe that's the way he thought he needed to get his point across.

Or get yourself shipped out of town. He is certainly knew what he was doing. Winning is very important to him and also he is a person who will speak up for what he believes is right. Again, not condoning it, but trying to understand.

Everyone makes mistakes, TO's is just National news everyday.

And that is probably the way he likes it. That is my biggest concern. I don't think he will be a bad teammate, I really don't. I do think he will continually attempt to garner attention because he is so insecure. I would prefer him to just know he is good and get on with scoring touchdowns and sending that confidence back to his teammates as Irvin used to.

I hated TO at first for the Star incident at the time, but now it's over. But the guy is GOOD, so if you don't want to see it, keep him from scoring. But you have to admit, some of his TD things were pretty good.

I was extremely angry during that game at him. But as time went on, I wasn't. Because we allowed him to do it. He did it because he could, as Irvin said. Anyone who holds a grudge about that is pretty thin-skinned as far as I am concerned.

Better yet, he and Drew both sign it in quiet on the sidelines, and during a break takes it to a fan in the stands.

That's what I want to see. Either that or just serving it back to the referee.

[juck]

The only time I will be excited about seeing TO is when he is scoring a TD.

Otherwise I would rather not see or hear the guy.:mad:

You will change ur mind soon enuff.:rolleyes:

[Alexander]

The only time I will be excited about seeing TO is when he is scoring a TD.

Otherwise I would rather not see or hear the guy.:mad:


Just TDs. So no cheering when he catches a clutch 3rd and 9 pass either.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Just TDs. So no cheering when he catches a clutch 3rd and 9 pass either.


Who knows at this point.

I did not like the idea of Keyshawn Johnson either but by his play and the way he handled himself for the most part he changed my mind.

Point is I don't know if I will cheer for TO specifically instead of cheering for the team.

Now maybe that is a shortcut and a form of fooling onself. But at this point I just don't care for the guy. I will be happy for the TEAM if he does well because it should mean the TEAM is doing well.

But I just see no way that I will get around to caring for him as a person/individual on this team. I can respect his talent but that is not respecting him as a person.

He has to earn my respect. Now I am sure he could care less about some hairy fat guy sitting in WV behind a computer but I am just talking about earning my respect so I would change my opinion about him.

It could happen, just as Key did. Just doesn't look too good.

I don't want to hear the man talk, I don't want to hear reporters blabbering on about him, I don't want to hear about him doing this or that off the field...I just want the team to do well and if he does well with the team then so be it.

[dargonking999]

To me, and my whole thing at that time and still now. The first time he did it, offensive yes, but when he did it the second time, i put the blame squarley on the shoulders of JJ, and the Def. JJ for making our team so dang sorry and our def, for letting him score a second time. If teague would have smacked TO like that when he was in the endzone maybe TO woudlnt have scored, but instead that just sat around and let TO do w/e he wats thne have the nerve to get mad when TO does he little dance action. No you want somebody to respect the star, then defend that star. Plain and simple.

On his decision to rag the QB's. Again, yes he was bag for doing it, but once again, if the QB's would stop puking, and breath long enough to play some football then TO wouldnt have a word to say. If people would stop trying to sit behind the QB and throw rocks at TO, he wouldnt have to come out and call his QB by his first name. am i defending TO yes, do i approve of his actions no. But to slay a man, and drop loyalty of your team, to hate his ever lasting guts, for things that could have easily been stopped to me is pointless. he's done wat he's done. All i care about is his production on the field. And his mouth being closed off the field.

[StarWiz2]

TO 14 Skins 0
TO 14 Eagles 0
TO 14 Giants 0
TO 14 Dallas 14


NFC EAST PREDICTIONS

Dallas 28 Skins 14
Dallas 28 Skins 14
Dallas 28 Giants 14
Dallas 28 Giants 14
Dallas 28 Eagles 14
Dallas 28 Eagles 14

Dallas Conference Record 6-0

NFC Championship

Dallas 28 Carolina 14

Super Bowl

Dallas 28
Denver 14

Super Bowl Champions 2007 Dallas Cowboys
Super Bowl Champions 2008, 2009, 2010 Dallas Cowboys


TO and Dallas :jackpot:


"To err is human, to forgive divine!"

"When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often that individual is crazy, (TO)."

[Sportsbabe]

as far as his antics HE RUINED TWO OF OUR RIVALS.why are we mad at that?lol

Trudat. That alone is enought to love him for life. It will also make for much more interesting football when we go up against them. Oh, the drama!!!!:starspin

[Alexander]

Point is I don't know if I will cheer for TO specifically instead of cheering for the team.

With Deion, I never liked him personally, but I still cheered him. Instead of yelling his name like "Go EMMITT go", I would yell "Run you $#@&*, RUN!!". Same thing but somehow different.

But I just see no way that I will get around to caring for him as a person/individual on this team. I can respect his talent but that is not respecting him as a person.

Well, I hate to say this, but I don't waste emotional investments on football players anymore. I did that as a child, but now with the amount of information that's out there, not a single player can live up to the pedestal we place them on. Rooting for laundry and all that jazz. Romance is for Harlequin novels and those who weep openly at sunsets.

He has to earn my respect. Now I am sure he could care less about some hairy fat guy sitting in WV behind a computer but I am just talking about earning my respect so I would change my opinion about him.

He should have everyone's respect as a player right now. As a person, well that's everyone's personal issue to overcome or not if they want to continue to be childish about it.

I don't want to hear the man talk, I don't want to hear reporters blabbering on about him, I don't want to hear about him doing this or that off the field...I just want the team to do well and if he does well with the team then so be it.

I also wish for silence. That is one thing I don't understand about Owens. He eats up the media attention. It gives him a rush and vanquishes his deeper insecurities. And I don't know if he can break that habit.

[Chief]

I also wish for silence. That is one thing I don't understand about Owens. He eats up the media attention. It gives him a rush and vanquishes his deeper insecurities. And I don't know if he can break that habit.

He can't help it.

LaTunaNostra maintained that Owens has some mental issues, and I tend to agree. Histrionic Personality Disorder is my diagnosis.

[Alexander]

He can't help it.

LaTunaNostra maintained that Owens has some mental issues, and I tend to agree. Histrionic Personality Disorder is my diagnosis.

Interesting. See how many fit:

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are

I don't think it is that much of a stretch to assume that, although I stop short of calling him crazy because crazy people rarely become millionaires, most end up like Alonzo Spellman. Just read up about his childhood and his life. He is one insecure fellow.

[Cowboy Junkie]

I am not so excited about T.O. But I cant wait to see that defense on display....

[juck]

With Deion, I never liked him personally, but I still cheered him. Instead of yelling his name like "Go EMMITT go", I would yell "Run you $#@&*, RUN!!". Same thing but somehow different.



Well, I hate to say this, but I don't waste emotional investments on football players anymore. I did that as a child, but now with the amount of information that's out there, not a single player can live up to the pedestal we place them on. Rooting for laundry and all that jazz. Romance is for Harlequin novels and those who weep openly at sunsets.



He should have everyone's respect as a player right now. As a person, well that's everyone's personal issue to overcome or not if they want to continue to be childish about it.



I also wish for silence. That is one thing I don't understand about Owens. He eats up the media attention. It gives him a rush and vanquishes his deeper insecurities. And I don't know if he can break that habit.



You speak the truth sir.

[Sportsbabe]

you can hate me all yall want to but you cant stop me!



:D i love that quote from TO

I saw a clip this weekend, during a game in the heat of battle, when he said something like "ya'll don't want me to get my shine, I'm gonna get my shine" and then he said my favorite quote ... with much emphasis on every word ... because I love me some me!!!" :laugh1: That man cracks me up. That's cocky to the umpteenth power, and now he's on our side.

[stilltheguru]

we have'nt had confidence on our team like TO since mike irvin.


when all the haters see the swagger this team has due to TO they will be loving the fact that hes on our team.


well i take that back.key had the same confidence just could'nt back it up.lol

[Alexander]

well i take that back.key had the same confidence just could'nt back it up.lol

He could back it up.

It's just his idea of "backing it up" was catching a nine yard curl for a first down, not turning a five yard slant into an 80 yard TD.

[Doomsday101]

we have'nt had confidence on our team like TO since mike irvin.


when all the haters see the swagger this team has due to TO they will be loving the fact that hes on our team.


well i take that back.key had the same confidence just could'nt back it up.lol

Many of us who did not want TO understand his ability that is not a concern. Some of you act as if TO scores a TD all of a sudden everyone is going to love the guy and that is not the case. What will help change many of our views is how TO conducts himself with the team. If he is on ESPN popping off against the team or other players on the team then that is a major concern and what worries many of us. Thus far he has pulled this act on the only 2 teams he has played for so he is batting 1,000 on what concerns us. TO has to change and I hope he does for the welfare of this team

[mperfection]

For me it isn't about the star incident. I have issues with a WR who publicly bags on his QB.
There's (almost) always two sides to each story. Personally, I wonder if said QB was as innocent as many in the media portrayed him.

[Doomsday101]

There's (almost) always two sides to each story. Personally, I wonder if said QB was as innocent as many in the media portrayed him.

Garcia and McNabb did not come out and blast TO to the media. No doubt TO had issues with both men I can understand that, on a team of 53 players not all the players are going to get alone. So handle it like a professional and don't go running your mouth off to ESPN. No good can come from it

[ka0tik]

...I'm Excited...:)

[Big D]

There's (almost) always two sides to each story. Personally, I wonder if said QB was as innocent as many in the media portrayed him.


:hammer:


TO is not the devil as some people like to believe. Some people will be open minded enough to find that out, others won't.

:starspin

[5Stars]

I'm excited about seeing T.O. catch his first TD for the Boyz!

I emailed him an idea on how to celebrate his first one...

I asked him, that when he scores that first TD at Texas Stadium, would he run over and yank the drawers down on one of the Cowboy Cheerleaders?

He emailed me back and told me he 'wood'....so, yeah, I'm excited!

:star:

[5Stars]

There's (almost) always two sides to each story. Personally, I wonder if said QB was as innocent as many in the media portrayed him.

I contacted T.O. by email and asked him why he dissed McFlabb....

He emailed me back and told me that McChunky would not share some soup with him one day after practice...it all went down hill after that!

He told me that McFlabb told him..."No soup for you"!!

:star:

[JPostSam]

i feel even worse about the TO signing than i did about the deion signing after his years in san fran (and that stupid slap fight with andre rison). which one makes a bigger impact on the team -- owens or sanders -- is a good question, but at least deion didn't attack his own teammates and throw tantrums all the time. he went where the money was and, even though the money was never incentive enough to make a solid tackle, he didn't sabotage the team.

don't get me wrong, i'll be glad for every big play that TO makes... but i'll always feel a bit of shame about the fact that he has become associated with the cowboys organization.

[REDVOLUTION]

Just for the simple fact that he is gonna bring ALL GAME LONG is why I wanted him here and ANXIOUSLY await seeing him on the field donning the star.

He already explained himself on the star incident. He WANTED to beat us. NOW THAT is on our side. Good enough for me!!!

[tunahelper]

To everyone bashing TO, I consider myself "old school" and dont care for alot of the B.S. in the NFL today.
TO created problems over money and was over the top in his antics, but when his team needed him the most he PUT IT ALL ON THE LINE!
What athlete would sign a waiver a play in the superbowl risking his career?
Anyone remember Philadelphia telling him he was playing at his own risk?
This is the kinda guy I want lining up every Sunday wearing a star!
So remember this dude has heart and Bill has a way of reaching deep down into people to get their best and we all know how good TO has been...

[5Stars]

To everyone bashing TO, I consider myself "old school" and dont care for alot of the B.S. in the NFL today.
TO created problems over money and was over the top in his antics, but when his team needed him the most he PUT IT ALL ON THE LINE!
What athlete would sign a waiver a play in the superbowl risking his career?
Anyone remember Philadelphia telling him he was playing at his own risk?
This is the kinda guy I want lining up every Sunday wearing a star!
So remember this dude has heart and Bill has a way of reaching deep down into people to get their best and we all know how good TO has been...

You, my friend just earned five Beautiful Stars! He may be what he is...and that's alright...you are what you are, and that is what makes all of us unique...

We will see....

:starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin

[Alexander]

There's (almost) always two sides to each story. Personally, I wonder if said QB was as innocent as many in the media portrayed him.

I doubt McNabb was.

As for Garcia, I believe the interview with Playboy was misquoted or at the very least implied. He never came out and said "I believe Jeff Garcia is gay".

[Alexander]

Garcia and McNabb did not come out and blast TO to the media. No doubt TO had issues with both men I can understand that, on a team of 53 players not all the players are going to get alone. So handle it like a professional and don't go running your mouth off to ESPN. No good can come from it

And most of the time, a QB isn't going to do that. It isn't part of their nature. What Owens said is probably what most WRs worth their salt have done behind closed doors. His problem was taking it public. But if I wanted out, that would be the surest way I knew how to get myself traded or released, outside of throwing a jersey at the head coach.

[big dog cowboy]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?:trophy:
This would have been a great poll question. From the responses, it looks like the 'no' answer would have won.

[ghst187]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?

Its just you....

[Hostile]

There's (almost) always two sides to each story. Personally, I wonder if said QB was as innocent as many in the media portrayed him.I never said the QBs were innocent. It wouldn't matter to me what they are "guilty" of though. Somebody, I forget who, said they didn't defend themselves. Right, the 2 QBs kept it out of the media. That's a well known rule of the locker room. Keep it in house.

On the field is the only talking TO needs to do. His performance has ALWAYS spoke volumes. The stuff for the cameras is uneccessary and negative. He doesn't need it.

[Alexander]

I never said the QBs were innocent. It wouldn't matter to me what they are "guilty" of though. Somebody, I forget who, said they didn't defend themselves. Right, the 2 QBs kept it out of the media. That's a well known rule of the locker room. Keep it in house.

They didn't keep it out of the media.

They both went whining to the press when pressed about it instead of saying "no comment". Both Garcia and McNabb both had lengthy rebuttals and played the victim card to the hilt. They ate up the attention nearly as much as Owens himself.

As for defending themselves, they could have handled it, behind closed doors, but failed. They played the game out through the press just as Owens did.

[Hostile]

They didn't keep it out of the media.

They both went whining to the press when pressed about it instead of saying "no comment". Both Garcia and McNabb both had lengthy rebuttals and played the victim card to the hilt. They ate up the attention nearly as much as Owens himself.

As for defending themselves, they could have handled it, behind closed doors, but failed. They played the game out through the press just as Owens did.Well, he started it.

I get what you are saying, but it's just a taboo thing with me. The QB could knock up my sister and leave her high and dry and I wouldn't bash him to the press. He and I would probably exchange blue words and haymakers in the locker room. But it would stay there from my end.

He broke that code. That is my only real complaint against him. The star thing is nothing. If he doesn't repeat this habit here, I will probably enjoy his time here. If he makes this same mistake here, it will piss me off. At least I'll be consitent.

[Alexander]

Well, he started it.

Here is an article when the whole Garcia buzz started. This comes from a noted gay publication:

Owens, Garcia and Gay

By Jim Buzinski (jim@outsports.com)
Outsports.com
Terrell Owens implies that Jeff Garcia is gay. Garcia denies it and mentions that he has had girlfriends. The mainstream media is excited. I yawn.
I confess that the Owens-Garcia lover’s quarrel, as one friend jokingly dubbed it, leaves me underwhelmed. I don’t think Owens’ comments, while classless and ignorant, were all that heinous. And Garcia’s response is annoying.
Yet the dustup between the two former teammates has provided grist for a media mill lacking in much else to write about in the dog days of summer. A Google News search turns up 150 media sources that have run with the story, and ESPN devoted a segment to the issue, spinning it into a larger “homosexuals in the NFL angle.”
Owens, a wide receiver for the Philadelphia Eagles, started things off when his comments in the current issue of Playboy became public. In the article, he was asked whether he thought Garcia was gay. "Like my boy tells me: If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, by golly, it is a rat."
He then followed up with general comments on having a gay teammate. "I probably wouldn't say anything right off the bat. I'd just see what everyone else has to say. I'd probably keep my distance and, hopefully, he would keep his. If it was a guy who was helping us win ball games, hey, I'd have no problem with it. He can do what he wants to do outside of my everyday life."
A day later he was furiously backspinning. "I didn't say that he was gay," Owens told reporters. "The conversation and the interview were loose. To my knowledge, I'm not sure if Jeff is gay or not. I've seen him out — he had a girlfriend when we were in San Fran. There's been a recent report that he has a girlfriend now. That was the extent of it. Everybody's going to make a big deal out of it. It wasn't like I came out and said 'Jeff was gay.' People asked me similar questions about Steve Young. Everybody is going to have their rumors."

Over time, people make it out that he said flat out, "Jeff is gay". That's wrong.

I get what you are saying, but it's just a taboo thing with me. The QB could knock up my sister and leave her high and dry and I wouldn't bash him to the press.

You don't hold your sister in much esteem then.

He and I would probably exchange blue words and haymakers in the locker room. But it would stay there from my end.

Which honestly, McNabb or Garcia should have had a knockdown drag out with him in the lockerroom the first time he shot off his mouth, but they didn't. This wasn't a sudden, shocking thing. Owens was given more leeway because they allowed it. And he comments got bolder, and bolder and bolder.

Put it this way: would Brett Favre tolerate it? Dan Marino? Troy Aikman? No. But these two did. Because they are both used to being coddled and favored by management. Garcia was a noted Walsh lapdog and McNabb was the posterchild of the Eagles organization.

He broke that code. That is my only real complaint against him. The star thing is nothing. If he doesn't repeat this habit here, I will probably enjoy his time here. If he makes this same mistake here, it will piss me off. At least I'll be consitent.

He did break the "code". Irvin even faults him for that. And so do I. But this is much like blaming a child when they do something terrible that you have been aware them doing for quite some time. The blame can be spread, and it should go partially to the one who doesn't think like a child and the one who should have asserted themselves in the situation before it got out of control in the first place.

[Hostile]

You don't hold your sister in much esteem then.Actually I do. Read it again. I said I'd defend her in the locker room, not in the court of public opinion. When they finally catch up with my sister's ex-husband I imagine my 2 brothers and I will draw straws for who will go to jail for whipping his butt. He'll need jail to avoid it. I'd gladly go to jail if they gave me just 5 minutes with him.

I'm talking about something that in sports is taboo. It's just that simple for me. All the magazine articles in the world won't change that. He shouldn't have dragged it into the press.

Which honestly, McNabb or Garcia should have had a knockdown drag out with him in the lockerroom the first time he shot off his mouth, but they didn't. This wasn't a sudden, shocking thing. Owens was given more leeway because they allowed it. And he comments got bolder, and bolder and bolder. I don't disagree with this. Even if he kicked their scrawny butts (my money would be on him) they should have stood up for themselves...in the locker room.

Put it this way: would Brett Favre tolerate it? Dan Marino? Troy Aikman? No. But these two did. Because they are both used to being coddled and favored by management. Garcia was a noted Walsh lapdog and McNabb was the posterchild of the Eagles organization.Again, I don't disagree. I'm not defending Garcia or McNabb other than saying they were right not to drag it out in the media themselves. Wussing out, I don't agree with.

He did break the "code". Irvin even faults him for that. And so do I. But this is much like blaming a child when they do something terrible that you have been aware them doing for quite some time. The blame can be spread, and it should go partially to the one who doesn't think like a child and the one who should have asserted themselves in the situation before it got out of control in the first place.I agree with everything in bold. I have no idea what point the rest of it was trying to make me see. My apologies if I am being dense.

[Mansta54]

Can't wait!!!!!

[mperfection]

They didn't keep it out of the media.

They both went whining to the press when pressed about it instead of saying "no comment". Both Garcia and McNabb both had lengthy rebuttals and played the victim card to the hilt. They ate up the attention nearly as much as Owens himself.

As for defending themselves, they could have handled it, behind closed doors, but failed. They played the game out through the press just as Owens did.
:hammer:

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm anxious, if for nothing else to see how he reacts in Dallas during the season

[Zippy Speedster]

I love it! Though I wonder when some of you are going to get the hint that this actually is NOT your team anymore and move on. Really not your fault or anybodies fault, just the game has changed...the Dallas Cowboys have changed. TO, Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, they are TODAY'S Dallas Cowboys, and no amount of b____ing and whinging will ever revert things back to yesteryear, the place so many of you are stuck in. Next it's going to be the music industry and too much "pop" and how much hollywood just don't make quality movies anylonger, lol. For the record, these are all signs that you're getting really ________ old. K9 retirement party, next week.

[fiveandcounting]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?:trophy:

Im sure it isnt just you but it sure as hell aint me

[fiveandcounting]

I love it! Though I wonder when some of you are going to get the hint that this actually is NOT your team anymore and move on. Really not your fault or anybodies fault, just the game has changed...the Dallas Cowboys have changed. TO, Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, they are TODAY'S Dallas Cowboys, and no amount of b____ing and whinging will ever revert things back to yesteryear, the place so many of you are stuck in. Next it's going to be the music industry and too much "pop" and how much hollywood just don't make quality movies anylonger, lol. For the record, these are all signs that you're getting really ________ old. K9 retirement party, next week.

I always find it wise to double check my spelling before sending a post where I insult a bunch of people for no good reason. I guess I'll stop my "whinging" now.

[Alexander]

I agree with everything in bold. I have no idea what point the rest of it was trying to make me see. My apologies if I am being dense.

The point is, I don't agree with it, but I don't hold his feet to the fire because of it. It is a "code", but again these are circumstances that we know only what we are told. Nobody knows if what he did was in retaliation, an act of desperation or not. Once again, it isn't a case of excusing or accepting his actions, but rather understanding there is more to it than we know and it is not a simple case of his direct culpability. I don't consider him an evil person because he broke some mythical "code". Just a child. And one that needed to be spanked. And I wouldn't consider a child evil if they took the rope they were given.

[Hostile]

The point is, I don't agree with it, but I don't hold his feet to the fire because of it. It is a "code", but again these are circumstances that we know only what we are told. Nobody knows if what he did was in retaliation, an act of desperation or not. Once again, it isn't a case of excusing or accepting his actions, but rather understanding there is more to it than we know and it is not a simple case of his direct culpability. I don't consider him an evil person because he broke some mythical "code". Just a child. And one that needed to be spanked. And I wouldn't consider a child evil if they took the rope they were given.Gotcha.

I don't consider him an evil person either. On the football field I truly enjoy watching him play. No different than someone like Bill Romanowski. I consider him spitting on JJ Chokes as breaking the code as well. I don't condone those types of actions and I speak out against them. If that is me holding his feet to the fire then that's what it is. From where I sit it's me expressing my Constitution given right to opinion about something I find quetionable.

If you take a look at my posts you'll find that I am not among the hordes who can't forgive him for the incident on the star. I'm not holding him to a different standard than I am other players. I'm simply stating something that I personally believe in. That team is sacred.

[superpunk]

I consider him spitting on JJ Chokes

Eh:confused:

[notherbob]

Actually, I hope he never plays a down in a Cowboys uniform but I probably won't get my wish. That's OK, it's just one more reason to turn the TV off and go work in the fields or fix fences and get something worthwhile accomplished instead of sitting on my lazy butt in front of the boob tube. I almost never turn the TV on during the off-season anyway, so it won't be much of a change.

[Hostile]

I love it! Though I wonder when some of you are going to get the hint that this actually is NOT your team anymore and move on. Really not your fault or anybodies fault, just the game has changed...the Dallas Cowboys have changed. TO, Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, they are TODAY'S Dallas Cowboys, and no amount of b____ing and whinging will ever revert things back to yesteryear, the place so many of you are stuck in. Next it's going to be the music industry and too much "pop" and how much hollywood just don't make quality movies anylonger, lol. For the record, these are all signs that you're getting really ________ old. K9 retirement party, next week.Whinging? Did you mean whining? As in the entire tone of this post? bring on the cheese because Zippy's got the whine.

No kidding football will not revert back to the days of yesteryear when it was a better product. Guess what else isn't going to go backwards Zippity Doo Duh? Your age is not going to go backwards. So when you're old, gray, feeble, and arthritic, and punk kids are disrespecting you just because they can, I want you to remember one thing. Karma never loses. Enjoy.

[Hostile]

Eh:confused:You don't remember when Mad Dog Romo did that?

Sean Taylor did it too. That's why I don't respect him.

[superpunk]

You don't remember when Mad Dog Romo did that?

Sean Taylor did it too. That's why I don't respect him.

Oh - I was confused. I thought you were saying TO spit on Stokes.

Reading comprehension is key.

[Hostile]

Oh - I was confused. I thought you were saying TO spit on Stokes.

Reading comprehension is key.No. Romo (not QB Tony) spit on JJ Chokes.

[Alexander]

Gotcha.

I don't consider him an evil person either. On the football field I truly enjoy watching him play. No different than someone like Bill Romanowski. I consider him spitting on JJ Chokes as breaking the code as well. I don't condone those types of actions and I speak out against them. If that is me holding his feet to the fire then that's what it is. From where I sit it's me expressing my Constitution given right to opinion about something I find quetionable.

I don't understand what asserting your opinion has to do with it and last I checked nobody was questioning anyone's Constitutional rights.

I just take exception to the irrational "I HATE HIM, HOPE HE NEVER PLAYS A DOWN FOR MY BELOVED TEAM WITH THE STAR AND HE'LL CORRUPT THE CHILDREN" nonsense I read. It ties directly into the notion that people have their own fantasies about what a real NFL football team is and what goes into it.

You said the team was important and it is. That's not a source of debate.

[Alexander]

Oh - I was confused. I thought you were saying TO spit on Stokes.

Reading comprehension is key.

He did WORSE!

He celebrated on the beloved star.

He wiped his backside with the Shroud of Turin.

Caused global warming.

[Hostile]

I don't understand what asserting your opinion has to do with it and last I checked nobody was questioning anyone's Constitutional rights.

I just take exception to the irrational "I HATE HIM, HOPE HE NEVER PLAYS A DOWN FOR MY BELOVED TEAM WITH THE STAR AND HE'LL CORRUPT THE CHILDREN" nonsense I read. It ties directly into the notion that people have their own fantasies about what a real NFL football team is and what goes into it.

You said the team was important and it is. That's not a source of debate.I'm not on that train. That's all I'm saying.

I actually spoke to people that work for him yesterday and came away very impressed.

[Hostile]

He did WORSE!

He celebrated on the beloved star.

He wiped his backside with the Shroud of Turin.

Caused global warming.Man overboard.

[Alexander]

I actually spoke to people that work for him yesterday and came away very impressed.

So what? They have been possessed by his demon horde.:)

[Hostile]

So what? They have been possessed by his demon horde.:)Grab the life preserver and I'll pull you in.

[superpunk]

He did WORSE!

He celebrated on the beloved star.

I was there - when talks were starting. But it didn't have so much to do with the Star, as - I just really don't like him. I can get over that dislike, if he performs like he can.

I can still remember that pre-season game the Eagles played against the Ravens. Everyone - everywhere - knew the first ball was going to TO. The Ravens double covered him, the announcers said it, everyone in the stadium KNEW. And he took it to the house.

My jaw dropped - "Oh ****." I knew it was gonna be a loooooong day when the Eagles came to town. I can't wait to see that sort of ability on this team again - it hasn't been here for soooooo long. But it's gonna take awhile for me to "like" him - but not impossible. I did a total 180 on Keyshawn, which is why I'm not as worried about TO.

Caused global warming.

We didn't listen!!!!!!!