Joe Theisman: What a worthless punk

[The30YardSlant]

Ricky Williams will continue to play professional football with the CFL's Toronto Argonauts while he is suspended for one year by the NFL, and one high-profile ex-Argonaut isn't thrilled by the move.

Former quarterback Joe Theismann, who began his professional career with the Argonauts and later went on to star in the NFL with the Redskins, said he was "embarrassed right now to be a Toronto Argonaut" in an interview with ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd.

"I don't ever want to be mentioned in the same breath as Ricky Williams as a football player. He's a disgrace to the game. The man doesn't deserve to play football. He should go on with his life and treat his drug addictions or go do whatever he wants to do. He's been suspended from the National Football League on multiple occasions. Doesn't anybody have any class anywhere? For gosh sakes, let the kid go do what he wants to do. He doesn't want to play football," Theismann, who is part of ESPN's Monday Night Football announcing crew, said.

Williams was suspended by the NFL for the entire 2006 season following a fourth positive drug test. But the Dolphins gave him permission to play this year in the CFL, and he signed with Toronto on Sunday.

Theismann, while calling Williams a "good kid" said he believes that the running back has had too many chances.

"We have rules in the National Football League. It's real simple. Don't do drugs and you can play. It's a privilege to be able to play professional football. It's not some rite of passage. He's insulted the Miami Dolphins after they took him back and gave him a chance to play. Now he insults the intelligence of everybody that thinks that doing drugs is OK. To me, it's the wrong message to send to kids. It's the wrong thing to be doing, and the Toronto Argonauts have embarrassed themselves as an organization signing him," Theismann said.






Joe Theisman talking about someone else disgracing the NFL is so far beyond complete and utter hilarity :banghead:

[The30YardSlant]

And just for the record Joe, we are all embarrassed to call you a color commentator and a non biased anylist

[Chief]

My favorite photo of Joe Theismann ... posing with a "friend" a few years ago.

http://www.stevemoore.addr.com/joetheismann2.jpg

[Alexander]

Joe Theisman talking about someone else disgracing the NFL is so far beyond complete and utter hilarity :banghead:

Theismann hasn't done anything morally disgraceful. He is just as you said, a tool.

It isn't Ricky Williams or any professional athlete's responsibility to be a role model to kids. It is the parental responsibility to teach the correct morals.

As for his commentary, well, let's just say he is a hypocritical crumb, because I don't recall him ever calling teammate/coke fiend Dexter Manley a "disgrace to the game" and questioning his class or lack thereof.

[Alexander]

My favorite photo of Joe Theismann ... posing with a "friend" a few years ago.

http://www.stevemoore.addr.com/joetheismann2.jpg

:laugh2: :bow:

[royhitshard]

[QUOTE=Alexander]It isn't Ricky Williams or any professional athlete's responsibility to be a role model to kids. It is the parental responsibility to teach the correct morals.[QUOTE]
Amen to that...well said.

[The30YardSlant]

Theismann hasn't done anything morally disgraceful. He is just as you said, a tool.

It isn't Ricky Williams or any professional athlete's responsibility to be a role model to kids. It is the parental responsibility to teach the correct morals.

As for his commentary, well, let's just say he is a hypocritical crumb, because I don't recall him ever calling teammate/coke fiend Dexter Manley a "disgrace to the game" and questioning his class or lack thereof.

His commentary in and of itself is disgraceful. I have muted Cowboy games on ESPN before because of him.

[Alexander]

His commentary in and of itself is disgraceful. I have muted Cowboy games on ESPN before because of him.

Annoying, ignorant and reeking of homerism? Absolutely.

Disgraceful? Not so much.

[Alexander]

Amen to that...well said.

Whenever I hear that statement, to me that's usually just some holier than thou dip trying to sound important and assert some morally superior high ground. How much of a "role model" has Joe Theismann been?

Now if Mother Theresa came out and said it? Yes, I would consider that person an expert on how to be a role model.

But Joe Theismann? The posterchild for the narcissistic airhead athlete?

[The30YardSlant]

Annoying, ignorant and reeking of homerism? Absolutely.

Disgraceful? Not so much.

If I was not an NFL fan and tuned in for the first time only to hear Theisman go on about how Joe Gibbs is reincarnate, I would never watch another game as long as I lived.

He doesnt even try to hide his idiocy.

[acheman]

"Now he insults the intelligence of everybody that thinks that doing drugs is OK."


I am still trying to wrap my head around what that idiot was trying to say in the above sentence.:laugh2:

[Chief]

"Now he insults the intelligence of everybody that thinks that doing drugs is OK."


I am still trying to wrap my head around what that idiot was trying to say in the above sentence.:laugh2:

And this guy talks for a living.

Way to go, "Norman" Einstein.

[Alexander]

"Now he insults the intelligence of everybody that thinks that doing drugs is OK."


I am still trying to wrap my head around what that idiot was trying to say in the above sentence.:laugh2:

I cannot believe I missed that.:o:

[WoodysGirl]

CFL | Williams not worried about Theismann's comments
Tue, 30 May 2006 13:11:02 -0700

Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports Toronto Argonauts RB Ricky Williams (http://www.kffl.com/player/1053/nfl) isn't worried about Joe Theismann's latest harsh assessment of him. After all, Williams said Tuesday, May 30, he knows an apology will be forthcoming. After practice today, Williams noted that Theismann has often been critical of him in the past, consistently bashing anyone who is willing to associate with the controversial star.

However, Theismann reverses course when he sees Williams in person, the player said. "Every time he says something, here's what happens: He says a remark about me that's offensive, then when he has to (broadcast) one of our (Dolphins) games, he comes in and apologizes and says, 'I'm sorry,'" Williams said. Williams indicated that he would accept an apology from Theismann.

[Alexander]

However, Theismann reverses course when he sees Williams in person, the player said. "Every time he says something, here's what happens: He says a remark about me that's offensive, then when he has to (broadcast) one of our (Dolphins) games, he comes in and apologizes and says, 'I'm sorry,'" Williams said. Williams indicated that he would accept an apology from Theismann.

:laugh2:

Bravo, Ricky.

Bravo.

I always thought Theismann was a coward. This confirms it.

[MONT17]

anyone who changes his name to win an Award should not be allowed to play football either!!!!

[juck]

Smack him please Ricky.better yet kick him in the chin.lol.

[Roughneck]

CFL | Williams not worried about Theismann's comments
Tue, 30 May 2006 13:11:02 -0700

Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports Toronto Argonauts RB Ricky Williams (http://www.kffl.com/player/1053/nfl) isn't worried about Joe Theismann's latest harsh assessment of him. After all, Williams said Tuesday, May 30, he knows an apology will be forthcoming. After practice today, Williams noted that Theismann has often been critical of him in the past, consistently bashing anyone who is willing to associate with the controversial star.

However, Theismann reverses course when he sees Williams in person, the player said. "Every time he says something, here's what happens: He says a remark about me that's offensive, then when he has to (broadcast) one of our (Dolphins) games, he comes in and apologizes and says, 'I'm sorry,'" Williams said. Williams indicated that he would accept an apology from Theismann.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Theismann is such a it is not even funny. If he keeps running his mouth the way he does about other players though, he will end up with two bad legs.

[Scotman]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
If he keeps running his mouth the way he does about other players though, he will end up with two bad legs.

I don't know about this statement. I think he protects a good bit of his working leg by keeping his foot firmly planted in his mouth.

[The30YardSlant]

I don't know about this statement. I think he protects a good bit of his working leg by keeping his foot firmly planted in his mouth.

Only because Lawrence Taylor told him to put it there

[adbutcher]

My favorite photo of Joe Theismann ... posing with a "friend" a few years ago.

http://www.stevemoore.addr.com/joetheismann2.jpg
Gawd I needed that!:lmao2:

Thanks Chief.

[the kid 05]

wasn't it charles barkley way back when who had a comercial stating he wasn't a role model that it was the paren'ts job not his? maybe someone should have joe watch that

[Doomsday101]

wasn't it charles barkley way back when who had a comercial stating he wasn't a role model that it was the paren'ts job not his? maybe someone should have joe watch that

There are people in every walk of life who are role models including some athletes who are very good role models. However not all people are role models no matter what their profession.

[bbgun]

Joe Theisman talking about someone else disgracing the NFL is so far beyond complete and utter hilarity

Why? How exactly did Joe disgrace the NFL?

[superpunk]

Why? How exactly did Joe disgrace the NFL?

By being LAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[The30YardSlant]

Why? How exactly did Joe disgrace the NFL?

Correction, LT disgraced the NFL by only breaking Theisman's right leg

[5Stars]

"Now he insults the intelligence of everybody that thinks that doing drugs is OK."


I am still trying to wrap my head around what that idiot was trying to say in the above sentence.:laugh2:

Well, birds of a feather, flock togeather!

Really, really, pay attention to the posts that the RedStink fans that come here type! It's almost the same logic as ole 'Bum Leg'!

Also, if you can stomach it...listen REAL close when "Bum Leg" announces a game...you will find much more of the same crap come out of his mouth that is exactely like what he just said!

:dissskin:

[bbgun]

Correction, LT disgraced the NFL by only breaking Theisman's right leg

Well, now I know who the "tool" is. This thread is embarrassing.

[The30YardSlant]

Well, now I know who the "tool" is. This thread is embarrassing.

Think what you will

[Doomsday101]

Never cared for Theisman views on some things as for his career as a QB it was pretty decent (not spectacular but decent) He helped the skins to 2 SB and the skins won one out of the 2. As for his injury I would not wish that on anyone, that was a very nasty break.

[KCCOWBOYSFAN]

Who is this guy and why should anyone care what he says about Ricky Williams?

[Alexander]

Who is this guy and why should anyone care what he says about Ricky Williams?

Oh boy.

Someone needs a history lesson about Joe Theismann and what he means to the Cowboys.

[Jarv]

Hey, cowboys fans love Joe...Even sang him happy B-day on his birthday...

[ConcordCowboy]

What Theisman said was the Exact Truth...Williams is a Disgrace and a Idiot!

And I have nothing at all against smoking Pot.

Just don't get caught at it...At least not four times!

[Alexander]

What Theisman said was the Exact Truth...Williams is a Disgrace and a Idiot!

And I have nothing at all against smoking Pot.

Just don't get caught at it...At least not four times!

Idiot? Sure.

Disgrace? No, I reserve that tag for murderers and true criminals, like Rae Carruth and O.J. Simpson. Not mentally weak stoners.

[Doomsday101]

Idiot? Sure.

Disgrace? No, I reserve that tag for murderers and true criminals, like Rae Carruth and O.J. Simpson. Not mentally weak stoners.

I would have to say Williams comes close to a disgrace by leaving the Dolphins the 1st time right before the start of training camp. He was a big part of their offense and just like that Miami gets screwed because Ricky wants to go party with Lenny Kravitz and friends. I had read where in Miami's mini camp that year Ricky stands up and tells his teammates they need to dedicate themselves for the season and then he turns around and walks out on them. I would have to say that was disgraceful.

[ConcordCowboy]

Idiot? Sure.

Disgrace? No, I reserve that tag for murderers and true criminals, like Rae Carruth and O.J. Simpson. Not mentally weak stoners.

I think it's a Disgrace to get caught 4 times smoking Pot when your livelihood is at Stake.

[mmurray21]

The greatest player of Joe's generation was probably on drugs when he snapped his leg.

What Ricky did was stupid, what Ray Caruth did was disgraceful.

[riggo]

why all the hate for theismann? doesnt anyone here know that one reason i dont like him is that he called the "aikman fumble that emmitt picked up and tried to throw out of the end zone then the skins danny copeland fell on in the end zone, leading to a skins win 1992" an incomplete forward pass that never should have been called a fumble???

[BrAinPaiNt]

I agree Theezman is a tool.

But I can't say I really disagree with what he said about Williams.

[ghst187]

sad to say but I agree with Theiswoman...
but that doesn't dismiss the fact that he's still an idiot homer, windbag, horrible color guy.

[5Stars]

I agree Theezman is a tool.

But I can't say I really disagree with what he said about Williams.

Well, I have to agree with old "BrokeBack Leg" too! (although I detest him)!

It's the same with Crankcase...

:star:

[BrAinPaiNt]

Well, I have to agree with old "BrokeBack Leg" too! (although I detest him)!

It's the same with Crankcase...

:star:


Brokeback leg :laugh1: :lmao2: :lmao:

[VACowboy]

I can't stand Theisman as an NFL analyst. I hope Dallas plays a lot more on Sunday night in the funure than on Monday. But Sean Taylor is at least as disgraceful as Ricky Williams. Where's the equal time?

[jay cee]

Theismann hasn't done anything morally disgraceful. He is just as you said, a tool.

It isn't Ricky Williams or any professional athlete's responsibility to be a role model to kids. It is the parental responsibility to teach the correct morals.

As for his commentary, well, let's just say he is a hypocritical crumb, because I don't recall him ever calling teammate/coke fiend Dexter Manley a "disgrace to the game" and questioning his class or lack thereof.
I was about to write the same thing. If you're not going to rip Manley, there is no point in going after Williams.

[jay cee]

I agree Theezman is a tool.

But I can't say I really disagree with what he said about Williams.
It's not just that he said it about Williams BP, but why just Williams? Why not Dexter manley and all the other players that have destroyed their careers by using drugs?

[Double Trouble]

It's not just that he said it about Williams BP, but why just Williams? Why not Dexter manley and all the other players that have destroyed their careers by using drugs?I believe the reason Williams was an issue is because he signed with Toronto, who Theisman used to play for, and he was rankled because comparisons were made to him.

I detest Thesiman as a player and an announcer, but this is an instance where I agree with him for the most part. But I don't think Williams should be treated any different from any other NFL drug offender. If he's reinstated, he has a "right" to play in the NFL, no matter how much Joe T asserts that it's a privilege.

Regardless, from what they said on NFL radio today, the substance he tested positive for wasn't marijauana. I'm guessing coke? Tiki Barber said he didn't think an NFL owner would ever take a chance on Williams ever again, especially at his age.

[Alexander]

I believe the reason Williams was an issue is because he signed with Toronto, who Theisman used to play for, and he was rankled because comparisons were made to him.

Hardly.

According to Williams, this isn't the first time Theismann has ripped him. It sounds personal.

[BigDFan5]

Well, now I know who the "tool" is. This thread is embarrassing.


Lets see insult the Cowboys check

insult cowboys fans check

defend the redskins check

defend redskins fans check

Yeah you're sure a cowboys fan alright ;)

[big dog cowboy]

Well, I have to agree with old "BrokeBack Leg" too! (although I detest him)!
I gotta write that down. Great stuff. :lmao:

[Hostile]

CFL | Williams not worried about Theismann's comments
Tue, 30 May 2006 13:11:02 -0700

Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports Toronto Argonauts RB Ricky Williams (http://www.kffl.com/player/1053/nfl) isn't worried about Joe Theismann's latest harsh assessment of him. After all, Williams said Tuesday, May 30, he knows an apology will be forthcoming. After practice today, Williams noted that Theismann has often been critical of him in the past, consistently bashing anyone who is willing to associate with the controversial star.

However, Theismann reverses course when he sees Williams in person, the player said. "Every time he says something, here's what happens: He says a remark about me that's offensive, then when he has to (broadcast) one of our (Dolphins) games, he comes in and apologizes and says, 'I'm sorry,'" Williams said. Williams indicated that he would accept an apology from Theismann.This is pure poetry. Theisman just got owned badly.

Why do I suddenly hope Ricky will be traded to the Redskins?

[big dog cowboy]

This is pure poetry. Theisman just got owned badly.

Why do I suddenly hope Ricky will be traded to the Redskins?
Why do I suddenly hope Ricky will break BrokeBack Leg's other leg?

[Q_the_man]

I wonder what EYEsmann has to say about Dexter Manley, he was on drugs and Dumb as a rock

[SkinsandTerps]

I havent seen the movie but pretty certain that the guys in Brokeback were ... Cowboys.

Thus the reason so many fans are referring to the Cowboys as the Brokebacks, or Brokeback Nation, Brokeback America's Team, etc.

Lets me tell you that I have never been a big Theisman fan. I think he was a decent to good QB but certainly not great (feel the same way about Phil Simms). And definitely not a fan of his booth work.

Williams to Manley comparison is fair on some levels , but I feel doubtful that Williams is illiterate. Overall I agree with Theisman in that Williams is a disgrace, he walked away from the game only to come back because of the over 8M he owed to the Dolphins, they accepted him back with open arms only to have him screw it all up again.

Dexter wasnt suspended for drugs until 89, the Redskins traded him to the Cardinals when he regained eligibility. In all fairness Theisman never knowingly played with the coked up Manley. Unlike say, Simms with LT.

[CrazyCowboy]

I just don't like because he is an ex-deadskin

[CalMor]

I havent seen the movie but pretty certain that the guys in Brokeback were ... Cowboys.

Thus the reason so many fans are referring to the Cowboys as the Brokebacks, or Brokeback Nation, Brokeback America's Team, etc.



I have not seen the movie either but I think they were sheep herders, not cowboys. And if you want to play the junior high word change game just remember the "cowboys" all but destroyed the indian nation. Along with their own stupidity.

[hipfake08]

Williams was suspended by the NFL for the entire 2006 season following a fourth positive drug test. But the Dolphins gave him permission to play this year in the CFL, and he signed with Toronto on Sunday.

Even money bet the NFL will colse this loop hole.
Where if the players goes to another league their contract is voided.

This would stop the teams from shipping their problems to the North.

[Doomsday101]

I wonder what EYEsmann has to say about Dexter Manley, he was on drugs and Dumb as a rock

As the QB of the team when Dexter and Joe where playing what was he going to say? Was he to go to the media and slam a member of the team? As a media person he is paid to give his comments.

[Wimbo]

Joe Theismann: "We have rules in the National Football League. It's real simple. Don't do drugs and you can play. It's a privilege to be able to play professional football. It's not some rite of passage." Theismann said.

What the heck does this mean? Rite of passage to where? How would doing drugs alter football into a rite of passage? Where is there any indication that anyone claimed that smoking dope while being a professional athlete was a rite of passage?

Norman Theismann doesn't even know what his own words mean...

[SkinsandTerps]

I have not seen the movie either but I think they were sheep herders, not cowboys. And if you want to play the junior high word change game just remember the "cowboys" all but destroyed the indian nation. Along with their own stupidity.

As someone whose mother is 100% native american, I consider your ignorant comment somewhat offensive.

I am not playing thr Jr. high game, I am pointing out things that I have read and I am certain that several others on this board have as well.

Maybe they were sheep herders, I am sure at least one person on this board has seen the movie. I just saw the posters.

EDIT: I just looked at IMDB, and it states : "Plot Outline: Based on the E. Annie Proulx story about a forbidden and secretive relationship between two cowboys and their lives over the years."

[riggo]

Lets me tell you that I have never been a big Theisman fan. I think he was a decent to good QB but certainly not great (feel the same way about Phil Simms). And definitely not a fan of his booth work.

Williams to Manley comparison is fair on some levels , but I feel doubtful that Williams is illiterate. Overall I agree with Theisman in that Williams is a disgrace, he walked away from the game only to come back because of the over 8M he owed to the Dolphins, they accepted him back with open arms only to have him screw it all up again.

Dexter wasnt suspended for drugs until 89, the Redskins traded him to the Cardinals when he regained eligibility. In all fairness Theisman never knowingly played with the coked up Manley. Unlike say, Simms with LT.

i agree 100%. if dex was trying to play right now- much like comparing mark mcguire to barry bonds- he would be criticized.

still dont understand all the hate for theismann. he's been plenty critical of the skins. is this cuz he picked the skins to represent in the SB? it's not like he was that far off. if thomas doesnt go down, the skins are probably in the NFC championship game at least.

[Hostile]

i agree 100%. if dex was trying to play right now- much like comparing mark mcguire to barry bonds- he would be criticized.

still dont understand all the hate for theismann. he's been plenty critical of the skins. is this cuz he picked the skins to represent in the SB? it's not like he was that far off. if thomas doesnt go down, the skins are probably in the NFC championship game at least.When was that? The guy's the biggest homer in sports.

[Wimbo]

I havent seen the movie but pretty certain that the guys in Brokeback were ... Cowboys.

You are correct. We ran them out of town. There names were Demetric Evans and Tyson Walter. I wonder where those guys ended up... :cool:

[SkinsandTerps]

When was that? The guy's the biggest homer in sports.

Adam Shein is a bigger homer.

[Alexander]

Adam Shein is a bigger homer.

He was never a high profile former player for an NFL team.

Hands down, Theismann is the most biased announcer out there. Not even Collinsworth with his consistent hamming for the Bengals can compete.

[Hostile]

Adam Shein is a bigger homer.Agreeing with Alexander and adding one more.

Not even Boomer Esiason and his constant Maryland Terapin QBs praise is a bigger homer.

:wink2:

[SkinsandTerps]

Agreeing with Alexander and adding one more.

Not even Boomer Esiason and his constant Maryland Terrapin QBs praise is a bigger homer.

:wink2:

hey, hey, hey, dont bring the mighty Terps into this. haha.

I dont know, I think that Irvin is a pretty big homer, maybe equal to Joe. And TO's #1 Fan/Apologist.

[Alexander]

hey, hey, hey, dont bring the mighty Terps into this. haha.

I dont know, I think that Irvin is a pretty big homer, maybe equal to Joe. And TO's #1 Fan/Apologist.

Irvin has blasted the team occasionally. He's certainly not homer-free, but I can honestly say I have never heard Joey Einstein say a cross word about Washington.

[Hostile]

hey, hey, hey, dont bring the mighty Terps into this. haha.

I dont know, I think that Irvin is a pretty big homer, maybe equal to Joe. And TO's #1 Fan/Apologist.Irvin is a big homer. I don't deny that. He's not yet in Joey T's league.

[WV Cowboy]

Joey T. is not a very smart football person in the booth, he says the absolute dumbest things, ... and then backs them up to the end with even dumber stuff.

He should not be in the booth, .. he is bad. :lmao:

[Alexander]

Joey T. is not a very smart football person in the booth, he says the absolute dumbest things, ... and then backs them up to the end with even dumber stuff.

He should not be in the booth, .. he is bad. :lmao:

I don't understand why he still has a job. He brings nothing to a broadcast except for being irritating. His analyses are simply awful. I can think of dozens of announcers that are more worthy of the coveted spot he has.

[Hostile]

I don't understand why he still has a job. He brings nothing to a broadcast except for being irritating. His analyses are simply awful. I can think of dozens of announcers that are more worthy of the coveted spot he has.I have a lot of friends who are not Cowboys fans and have nothing against the Skins like I do because of the rivalry. None of them can stand him and all of them agree he's the biggest homer out there.

[jimmy40]

When was that? The guy's the biggest homer in sports.
He doesn't even compare to Michael Irvin as far as being a homer. Can you imagine Irvin doing the color for a Cowboys game?

[trickblue]

I have not seen the movie either but I think they were sheep herders, not cowboys. And if you want to play the junior high word change game just remember the "cowboys" all but destroyed the indian nation. Along with their own stupidity.

True... they should be associated with the Rams... ;)

[aikemirv]

Idiot? Sure.

Disgrace? No, I reserve that tag for murderers and true criminals, like Rae Carruth and O.J. Simpson. Not mentally weak stoners.

Oh, so you get to decide who the TRUE crimianls are. Wasn't OJ determined innocent by the jury. We do have laws in the US and we do have rules in the NFL. If you break a law in the US you are a true criminal. Doing drugs is against the law if you had not noticed. Do you get to decide which laws are worthy and which ones are not?

[5Stars]

Oh, so you get to decide who the TRUE crimianls are. Wasn't OJ determined innocent by the jury. We do have laws in the US and we do have rules in the NFL. If you break a law in the US you are a true criminal. Doing drugs is against the law if you had not noticed. Do you get to decide which laws are worthy and which ones are not?

Are you REALLY suggesting that O.J. is innocent? :eek:

There are tons of innocent people in prison, and tons of criminals acquitted because of some mislead juries... :confused:

[superpunk]

Danger!!!!

OJ Simpson!!!!

Thread derailing!!!!

[5Stars]

Danger!!!!

OJ Simpson!!!!

Thread derailing!!!!

:lmao: :eek: :eek: :lmao2: :p:

[aikemirv]

Are you REALLY suggesting that O.J. is innocent? :eek:

There are tons of innocent people in prison, and tons of criminals acquitted because of some mislead juries... :confused:

No, but there was not enough proof to convict him was there?

Ricky is a confessed lawbreaker but is not a TRUE criminal because someone deems that using drugs is not as bad as another crime and yet how many are killed each day in America by drunk or under the influence (of various things)drivers?

How many innercity kids are killed each day because of drug use and the ramifications of drug deals?

[Idgit]

As someone whose mother is 100% native american, I consider your ignorant comment somewhat offensive.

I am not playing thr Jr. high game, I am pointing out things that I have read and I am certain that several others on this board have as well.

Maybe they were sheep herders, I am sure at least one person on this board has seen the movie. I just saw the posters.

EDIT: I just looked at IMDB, and it states : "Plot Outline: Based on the E. Annie Proulx story about a forbidden and secretive relationship between two cowboys and their lives over the years."
FWIW, I considered the ignorant comment inappropriate, too.

I'm an adult, and I'll admit that I watched Brokeback Mountain, and wanted the 2 hours of my life back afterwards, though not because I can't handle the idea of homosexuality.

I *can* confirm, that the participants were both cowboys, though, and that Heath Ledger definitely gives the other guy the Parcells-to-Gibbs treatment. Metaphorically speaking, of course, it's painful to watch.

[Alexander]

Oh, so you get to decide who the TRUE crimianls are. Wasn't OJ determined innocent by the jury. We do have laws in the US and we do have rules in the NFL. If you break a law in the US you are a true criminal. Doing drugs is against the law if you had not noticed. Do you get to decide which laws are worthy and which ones are not?

Sorry, smoking dope isn't the same as killing someone.

[aikemirv]

Sorry, smoking dope isn't the same as killing someone.

How many innercity kids are killed each day because of drug use and the ramifications of drug deals?

Indirect results.

Let me ask you, if someone drives under the influence and does not hit someone, are they as bad as the one you drives under the influence and does kill someone provided they are driving with the same amount of "influence" as the other person.

Now, marijuana use, driving under the influence of it and kill someone, are they worse than the guy who drives and does not kill someone?

[WV Cowboy]

Comparing the results of alcohol abuse and marijuana use is funny.

Alcohol abuse is way more destructive, yet it is legal.

[Alexander]

Now, marijuana use, driving under the influence of it and kill someone, are they worse than the guy who drives and does not kill someone?

Have you ever been around someone driving stoned? They aren't nearly the same type of threat as a drunk driver. They can, however, get confused at a stoplight.

You watch too many public service announcement commercials.

[aikemirv]

Have you ever been around someone driving stoned? They aren't nearly the same type of threat as a drunk driver. They can, however, get confused at a stoplight.

You watch too many public service announcement commercials.

I did not say they were the same did I?

I am just trying to find out who your TRUE criminals are.


http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/drving.htm
Occurrence and Consequences

During 2004, 16,694 people in the U.S. died in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes, representing 39% of all traffic-related deaths (NHTSA 2005).

In 2004, about 1.4 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics (Department of Justice, 2004). That’s less than one percent of the 159 million self-reported episodes of alcohol–impaired driving among U.S. adults each year (Quinlan et al. 2005).

Drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18% of motor vehicle driver deaths. These other drugs are generally used in combination with alcohol (Jones et al. 2003).

More than two-thirds of child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-related crashes during 1997–2002 were riding with the drinking driver; only 32% of them were properly restrained at the time of the crash (Shults 2004).

[5Stars]

I did not say they were the same did I?

I am just trying to find out who your TRUE criminals are.


http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/drving.htm
Occurrence and Consequences

During 2004, 16,694 people in the U.S. died in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes, representing 39% of all traffic-related deaths (NHTSA 2005).

In 2004, about 1.4 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics (Department of Justice, 2004). That’s less than one percent of the 159 million self-reported episodes of alcohol–impaired driving among U.S. adults each year (Quinlan et al. 2005).

Drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18% of motor vehicle driver deaths. These other drugs are generally used in combination with alcohol (Jones et al. 2003).

More than two-thirds of child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-related crashes during 1997–2002 were riding with the drinking driver; only 32% of them were properly restrained at the time of the crash (Shults 2004).

Damn, I got it! I know how to fix this problem!

Let's get rid of all motor vehicles! Yeah, that will do the trick, I just know it will!

It's not the juice or the weed, it's those damn automobiles, motorcycles, bicycles, pogo sticks, skateboards, rollerskates, maybe even a few horses!

:eek:

[Alexander]

I did not say they were the same did I?

I am just trying to find out who your TRUE criminals are.


http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/drving.htm
Occurrence and Consequences

During 2004, 16,694 people in the U.S. died in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes, representing 39% of all traffic-related deaths (NHTSA 2005).

In 2004, about 1.4 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics (Department of Justice, 2004). That’s less than one percent of the 159 million self-reported episodes of alcohol–impaired driving among U.S. adults each year (Quinlan et al. 2005).

Drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18% of motor vehicle driver deaths. These other drugs are generally used in combination with alcohol (Jones et al. 2003).

More than two-thirds of child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-related crashes during 1997–2002 were riding with the drinking driver; only 32% of them were properly restrained at the time of the crash (Shults 2004).

When Ricky gets behind the wheel and kills someone, then you have a point.

Until then, he is just a stoner who likes to smoke.

[aikemirv]

When Ricky gets behind the wheel and kills someone, then you have a point.

Until then, he is just a stoner who likes to smoke.

No.

My point was that you don't get to decide who the TRUE criminals are.

That was the only point.

[The30YardSlant]

Smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol are both far more hazardous to your health than weed. Being high is also less impairing than being drunk.

It's dumb, but people need to stop acting like weed is some horrible, deadly drug.

[ConcordCowboy]

Smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol are both far more hazardous to your health than weed. Being high is also less impairing than being drunk.
It's dumb, but people need to stop acting like weed is some horrible, deadly drug.

It kills me but I agree with you 100%...On the Bolded.

BUT...You still don't know JACK about Henson!:)

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I wonder if Joe thought Dexter Manley was a disgrace to football when Dexter did drugs?

[Mansta54]

Smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol are both far more hazardous to your health than weed. Being high is also less impairing than being drunk.

It's dumb, but people need to stop acting like weed is some horrible, deadly drug.




:hammer:

[koolaid]

CFL | Williams not worried about Theismann's comments
Tue, 30 May 2006 13:11:02 -0700

Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports Toronto Argonauts RB Ricky Williams (http://www.kffl.com/player/1053/nfl) isn't worried about Joe Theismann's latest harsh assessment of him. After all, Williams said Tuesday, May 30, he knows an apology will be forthcoming. After practice today, Williams noted that Theismann has often been critical of him in the past, consistently bashing anyone who is willing to associate with the controversial star.

However, Theismann reverses course when he sees Williams in person, the player said. "Every time he says something, here's what happens: He says a remark about me that's offensive, then when he has to (broadcast) one of our (Dolphins) games, he comes in and apologizes and says, 'I'm sorry,'" Williams said. Williams indicated that he would accept an apology from Theismann.

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao:

wonder what our good friends on ES think about that

[Kevin]

I don't like Theisman as a color commentator at all. In fact, I prefer Aikman ten times over. Joe is flat out annoying.

Nothing he said constitutes him as a "worthless punk" though. Ricky Williams is proving to the nation that he's prioritized drugs over his career. This disgusts more people than just Theisman.

[Kevin]

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao:

wonder what our good friends on ES think about that

Pretty funny, actually. I mean, Williams doesn't necessarily have a reputation for telling the truth, but I believe it nonetheless.

[Arch Stanton]

Smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol are both far more hazardous to your health than weed. Being high is also less impairing than being drunk.

It's dumb, but people need to stop acting like weed is some horrible, deadly drug.

Marijuana isn't as innocuous as you make out....

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

[Bob Sacamano]

hey, hey, hey, dont bring the mighty Terps into this. haha.

I live in MD, that Qb situation the Terps have going is awful

[EMMITTnROY]

I read the first couple of pages of this thread but not all seven, so this might have been mentioned..

I just think dont understand how he can say he is ashamed to be an Argonaut because of Ricky Williams but I have never heard him say he was ashamed of being a Redskin because of Dexter Manley and his drugs or with Sean Taylor and his spitting.. its really easy to say that you are ashamed of being an Argonaut-- nobody knows who they are, but you kinda give kudos to yourself for calling yourself one-- but to come out and say that he was ashamed to be a Redskin would take some balls, and he wont do it..

[CalMor]

EDIT: I just looked at IMDB, and it states : "Plot Outline: Based on the E. Annie Proulx story about a forbidden and secretive relationship between two cowboys and their lives over the years."

Websters definition of cowboy-Function: noun
1 : one who tends cattle or horses; especially : a usually mounted cattle-ranch hand
2 : a rodeo performer

[Thick 'N Hearty]

wow, Theismann really snapped on this one. He won't give Ricky a break. Why can't he just bury the bone and forget about it. It would be nice if he could give some positive encouragement to Williams... something, "Hey, break a leg."