week 2,what is your biggest worry..

[redskins1]

the nfl season is fast approaching(of course not fast enough).but the skins and the cowboys go at it early in week 2,and i believe the cowboys must win that game..cause if they dont this will start a streak that could mess with your teams mind in the matchup with the skins...do you have any concerns about this game?and do you feel like a lost by your boyz at home again can start this chain reaction going the other way...trust me i know,yall did it to us!!!! FEEDBACK PLEASE!!!

[theogt]

That my camera will malfuction when TO goes 80 yards for a TD and runs to the mid-field star.

[KD]

I don't know if I will order out or cook out. Beer choice? Thinking Miller Lite.....

[Yeagermeister]

My biggest worry is not about just week 2.....the online. It's my biggest worry for the whole season.

[redskins1]

PLEASE,only serious fans need to reply..

[KD]

Alright seriously, assuming everyone is healthy..... DB play. Our Front 7 will stop the run, and we will get pressure but can we stop Moss, Cooley, Randle El and Lloyd enough to win. Covering Portis out of the back field along with those guys also scares me. I think we will put up points though, so yeah DB play.

I do expect to witn though, revenge factor. Had we had T.O. and Vandy last year, our games would have been much different. So I'm confident with all the additons we have made.

[redskins1]

123456...thanks for the serious feedback,but if you lose..do you think it will get in the heads of your team?

[BrAinPaiNt]

Not just week Two, but the whole season, injuries to key players...specifically on the O-Line.

Flo goes down again we may not be hurting as bad as last year, but we will still suffer.

[KD]

To answer your question Redskins1, no.

Too much pride in players like T.O. Roy and Newman.

Too many seasoned vets like Bledsoe, Glenn and Ellis.

Too many young players who are hungry to prove themselves.

Parcells won't let it happen..... only way it happens is if you sweep us in close games and break our will in both.

[big dog cowboy]

week 2,what is your biggest worry..
That Sean Taylor will be suspended and miss out on the Cowboys getting revenge for last year.

[redskins1]

bigdog cowboy,dont count on it..sean taylor will be there..deal with it...

[DragonCowboy]

bigdog cowboy,dont count on it..sean taylor will be there..deal with it...

I wouldn't be so sure.

[The30YardSlant]

Unlike Redskins fans, we dont obsess over our rival everyday of every week of every season. I'm thinking about Jacksonville right now.

[KDWilliams85]

I think the biggest worry we have for the Redskins is getting beat deep. They did add Randle El and Santana Moss has the deep ball speed. I don't think Henry can keep up.

[MONT17]

All I know is that the Skins will never win 5 years in a row in my lifetime!!!

just imagine the current streak the Skins have would have to last until, what? 2011?

80% of the players will not even be on the respective teams!!!





:lmao2:

[Hostile]

More trolling by Redskins fans, and yes I am being serious.

[The30YardSlant]

The D.C. school system at work

[lspain1]

The Wisdom of Marion Barry

"If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate."

"I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man."

What more can you say about a city that loves Marion Barry?

Also:

NEWS FLASH!

There will be no Christmas celebration in Washington, DC
this year. Apparently they could not find three wise men.

[DallasKen]

PLEASE,only serious fans need to reply..
My only concern is having to look at Joe Gibbs' stupid face. Oh yeah and one more thing, that Sean Taylor pulls a gun out and shoots our players.

[theebs]

the nfl season is fast approaching(of course not fast enough).but the skins and the cowboys go at it early in week 2,and i believe the cowboys must win that game..cause if they dont this will start a streak that could mess with your teams mind in the matchup with the skins...do you have any concerns about this game?and do you feel like a lost by your boyz at home again can start this chain reaction going the other way...trust me i know,yall did it to us!!!! FEEDBACK PLEASE!!!


What kind of a question is this? WHy are redskins fans constantly running around this forum trying to see if cowboys fans are scared of the redskins?

Messing with our mind? Get a life.
chain reaction? one week at a time.

THe only thing that worries me at this point is our team staying healthy leading up to camp, during camp and getting through the preseason healthy.

Last year we had way too many injuries. So It is way too far off to even think about the regular season.

Let me ask you this, arent you worried that the skins may have a tougher time this season since they wont get to play against Kyle orton, alex smith, ryan fitzpatrick, mike mcmahon and a mcnabb, westbrook, fraley less eagles team? Your skins team last year was very close, alot closer than you realize I bet to the 03 cowboys. Statistically, schedule wise and the way the other teams qb situations fell when they played you. The difference is you improved your team in the offseason and you have a great running back.

[redskins1]

THEEBS...thanks for your take,i just feel like if the skins win that game that a serious skins winning streak against your cowboys is on...who else feels that why?

[Hostile]

THEEBS...thanks for your take,i just feel like if the skins win that game that a serious skins winning streak against your cowboys is on...who else feels that why?3 games isn't a serious streak. It's a mini streak and you haven't won it yet. Wishful thinking is good. In this case it's also premature.

[SultanOfSix]

Being healthy by the time week two rolls around. That's all that I care about. I don't care who we play. I think we have a chance to beat anyone this season as long as we're healthy.

[redskins1]

HOSTILE,thanks for your take,but after what happen last year,and the changes made by your team this offseason..if the skins come in your house on that monday night and win,that would be a huge statement on both sides,and will start to cause some doubt in your teams head..point being that game is bigger for your squad then my squad...can we agree on that?

[theogt]

I'd say a win for the Redskins would be bigger than a win for Dallas considering Vegas will likely have Dallas up by at least 7.

[Hostile]

HOSTILE,thanks for your take,but after what happen last year,and the changes made by your team this offseason..if the skins come in your house on that monday night and win,that would be a huge statement on both sides,and will start to cause some doubt in your teams head..point being that game is bigger for your squad then my squad...can we agree on that?Home games are always bigger for the host team unless it's the end of the season and playoffs are on the line.

What if Dallas wins week 1 and the Skins lose week 1? Who is under more pressure to win now? Can you accept the fact that there are all kinds of scenarios that could screw up your little wish?

This division is going to be a nightmare. Every division game will be critical for both sides. Week 2 isn't the end of the world. No matter how much you hope Dallas is sunk already, week 2 won't be it.

[redskins1]

HOSTILE,,,i see you still dont get what im saying..its not about what happens in the season,of course if the skins beat you,you still can accomplish your goals,i am talking about our rivalry,and how if the skins win that 1st game in big d,what kind of affect it will have on your teams mind on our head to head games..our you with me now? with all due respect of course!!!

[RiggoForever]

To answer your question Redskins1, no.

Too much pride in players like T.O. Roy and Newman.

Too many seasoned vets like Bledsoe, Glenn and Ellis.

Too many young players who are hungry to prove themselves.

Parcells won't let it happen..... only way it happens is if you sweep us in close games and break our will in both.

I agree with this 100%. Last year we played out of our minds at home and were very opportunistic on defense, and were fortunate to be able to take the jugular by halftime.

If it was most anyone else coaching I'd say it would be possible to get in the head of a rival NFC East team long term, but not with Parcells or Gibbs at the helm.

[Hostile]

HOSTILE,,,i see you still dont get what im saying..its not about what happens in the season,of course if the skins beat you,you still can accomplish your goals,i am talking about our rivalry,and how if the skins win that 1st game in big d,what kind of affect it will have on your teams mind on our head to head games..our you with me now? with all due respect of course!!!I can't say it any clearer.

Week 2 establishes nothing.

In week 12 last year Indianpolis crushed Pittsburgh on MNF 26-7. What did that mean for the playoffs? Jack squat.

We're your Super Bowl. You've even said as much. You're not ours. The Eagles were the monkey on our backs just like we were the monkey on yours. If we beat the Eagles week 5 in Philly I'm not going to be crowing about an amazing streak. It will still be 3 games.

Forgive me for not seeing how important beating us is for you, but I'm worried about a lot more than week 2.

[Hostile]

I agree with this 100%. Last year we played out of our minds at home and were very opportunistic on defense, and were fortunate to be able to take the jugular by halftime.

If it was most anyone else coaching I'd say it would be possible to get in the head of a rival NFC East team long term, but not with Parcells or Gibbs at the helm.Very good post. We're not talking about clabber for brains head coaches who get flustered and take up chain smoking when things get rough. Not in the NFCE.

[Bizwah]

The thing I'm worried most about week 2????

Well, if we win, I'm worried that all the Skin's fans that have graced our board will vanish and never return. I think the author of this thread will never be seen on this board again. I'd hate to see them not take their medicine.

Seriously, I don't see how a loss in week 2 would make any difference. We lost to the Skins in a heartbreaker in week two last season. We were on our way to a Division crown until we were derailed by injuries.

[tunahelper]

I have a sense that all of us and the players that we are entering the season with high expectations. From articles I read there is an air around the ranch that something special is building.
So to answer you I believe week one is crucial. If we lose against the Jags, then we must win against the foreskins!
If not this becomes a hard road to how, but not impossible. Certainly and objective analysis of roster will show we are the most talent in the East. I talk to Foreskin fans who say Terrell doesnt make that much difference.
I ask them if Santa Moss helped their offense last year?
Also can you blitz us effectively with TO slanting against one-one coverage?
Now ask is you #2WR, TE better than ours? Hell No!
Portis is better, but if Jones plays to ability and heath look out!
What the casual fan then misses is our up in coming defense and next year we will become household names.
I say can Brunell break history again this year and stay healthy for 16 games?
Appears the offseason is answering that one for us.
Ha!

[AsthmaField]

It's just the second game of the season. That's all. I know Redskin fans want it to be a huge deal... and from it being a rivalry standpoint it will be a little more that just another game... but still, the significance of the game is just that of game number two. No more, no less.

A loss by Dallas wouldn't get in their heads, in my opinion. We still have a lot of young guys on defense and I think they know they'll improve as the season wears on. They'll have another stab at the Skins and the season will be far from over. A loss wouldn't be that big of a deal. The season is a marathon, not a sprint and all the players look at it like that.

By game two, there still will be rookies getting used to the NFL... TO will still be getting used to his new team, the O-Line will still be gelling, Bledsoe will still be getting used to TO and a predominantly two TE set. We'll still be breaking in a new FS and a couple of new LB's.

Any way you look at it... the second game of the season just isn't that big of a deal and the Cowboys will be a lot better later in the season. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Dallas drops that one to the Skins... but I think they end the season ahead of Washington in the standings.

No, it won't get in the players heads if they lose in week 2. Just like the big loss at FedEx won't have any effect either. They know the game in Washington last year was just one of those days... just like when the Skins got blown out by the Giants was just one of those days. The players understand those things, unlike most fans.

Washington rebounded to beat the Giants in the second game last year, proving that the first game last year wasn't a difference in talent... but that it was simply one of those days.

Same thing with Dallas losing at FedEx... just one of those games. The first game this year could easily be a Dallas loss and it not effect the rest of the season.

Sorry man... but if Washington lucks out and beats dallas in week 2, it won't take us out of contention. I know you're worried about Dallas, but you won't get rid of us that easily.

And as for what I, as a fan worry about with the skins... well, there isn't any one thing in particular. I think the Redskins are a pretty good team and I think they could beat Dallas if things fall right for them, but there isn't one player or one position that worries me.

There really isn't anyone or anything special about the Redskins. They play solid ball and have good coaching... but the running game, the passing game, the pass rush, the coverage... none of it worries me, like say, the Giants pass rush does.

The Redskins O-Line isn't overpowering. Portis isn't a bruiser. The pass rush is pedestrian. The WR's are okay, but don't scare me. The LB's are solid but unspectacular. The QB is creaky and manages the game. Cooley is solid but doesn't worry anyone. The D-Line stops the run but isn't comprised of bruisers.

No, not much worries anyone about the Redskins... they're just solid. Because they've been so bad for so long... I guess Skins fans think they may worry someone now... but they're just solid.

Face it... Tampa just plain sucked last season and beating them in the playoffs is nothing to toot your own horn about. We played Seattle in Seattle much better than Washington did and we really should've beaten them. You're making a mistake giving the Redskins too much credit for their season last year.

Going to the second round of the playoffs sounds pretty good... but we all have eyes and saw Washington in the playoffs. You better hope you had some upgrades this offseason.

That's my honest take on you guys... no sour grapes here. You simply weren't very good last year and will have to go a ways to be much better this season.

I hope this helps.

[RiggoForever]

Very good post. We're not talking about clabber for brains head coaches who get flustered and take up chain smoking when things get rough. Not in the NFCE.

Exactly. Both coaches have shown they can get players to believe, and when that happens, anything can happen any given Sunday.

Both teams have won and lost big in the division last year. Also, when you know an opponent as well as a division rival, upsets can happen anytime. The Eagles without McNabb, Westbrook, or TO took the Giants into overtime and weren't overcome by the Redskins until the 4th quarter at the Linc.

[redskins1]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...

[Hostile]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...In your rmind. Maybe in the minds of some other fans. I seriously doubt the players will be reaching for Kleenex.

What happens if Dallas absolutely spanks the Skins? For reference let's say it's 35 to 10. What does it mean? Exactly what I've already said, not much other than we won a game. I doubt it causes the Redskins (team, not sure on the fans) to want to end it all. I doubt it makes them think the seaosn is a waste.

Week 2 sends no messages other than the loser needs to work harder. Fans over react to wins and losses. Football teams rarely do.

[AsthmaField]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...

In your opinion... not in many other's, I'd bet... and certainly not in the player's minds.

Like Hos said... we're one win away from a 3 game winning streak over Philly. Big deal. I won't look at it as any kind of a streak if we win game number 1 this year and I don't think the players would either.

Not after Philly owned us for the last few years. It would be very short sighted and merely living in the moment to think three in a row means very much.

Like Hos said... Washington wants to beat Dallas way more than Dallas wants to beat the Skins. Your coach and owner had complete skingasms last year when you got lucky with those two bombs in Dallas. Did Parcells and Jerry Jones act that way every time they beat the SKins? Of course not.

It's way bigger for you guys than for us. Winning for 5 years straight will do that I guess.

Put as much meaning as you want in week two... just understand that for the rest of the world, it's only the second game of the season.

[Bizwah]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...

Conjecture.....

The first game is big mainly because it's a division game. A loss by either team is a step back, but not a season-ending game, nor does it have any bearing on our rivalry.

[RiggoForever]

Any way you look at it... the second game of the season just isn't that big of a deal and the Cowboys will be a lot better later in the season. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Dallas drops that one to the Skins... but I think they end the season ahead of Washington in the standings.

Washington rebounded to beat the Giants in the second game last year, proving that the first game last year wasn't a difference in talent... but that it was simply one of those days.

There really isn't anyone or anything special about the Redskins. They play solid ball and have good coaching... but the running game, the passing game, the pass rush, the coverage... none of it worries me, like say, the Giants pass rush does.

Face it... Tampa just plain sucked last season and beating them in the playoffs is nothing to toot your own horn about. We played Seattle in Seattle much better than Washington did and we really should've beaten them. You're making a mistake giving the Redskins too much credit for their season last year.

Going to the second round of the playoffs sounds pretty good... but we all have eyes and saw Washington in the playoffs. You better hope you had some upgrades this offseason.

That's my honest take on you guys... no sour grapes here. You simply weren't very good last year and will have to go a ways to be much better this season.


Ok,

1. I think it will be a huge deal to the Cowboys fans and players. TOs first game at Texas Stadium, and 60,000 screaming fans wanting revenge for last year. Not to mention Parcells, who took the loss very personally.

2. I agree 100% that all games start 0-0 and with the coaches in this division, nobody is going to be packing it in before the game starts based on the results of a previous game.

3. If I wasn't a Redskins fan, I'd agree with you that we don't have the amount of talent other teams have. But not everything in the NFL can be spelled out by stats and paper, particularly because at this level everybodys good. The Redskins are tough-minded and will fight for 60 minutes, even when on the road and with an injured QB, RB, and no number 2 receiver.

4. Tampa sucked? They went 5-1 in the NFC South last season, won their division, and had the number 1 defense in the NFL with an offense that was emerging at the end of the season with both a solid running and passing game. How do you qualify that as sucking?

5. I agree, 10-6 is good, not very good. Everyone in this division has something to prove this season.

[DragonCowboy]

My biggest fear? "redskins1" won't have any grammar skills. Oh wait...

[redskins1]

thanks for all the replys on this thread,but its hard for me to believe that a true cowboy fan wouldnt be going crazy if the redskins comes to big d week 2 and win,the carry over from last year is still there...again it has no reflection on your season...but the rivalry thing im not so sure..it starts to set in what do we have to do to beat these guys...trust me i know!!!

[theogt]

thanks for all the replys on this thread,but its hard for me to believe that a true cowboy fan wouldnt be going crazy if the redskins comes to big d week 2 and win,the carry over from last year is still there...again it has no reflection on your season...but the rivalry thing im not so sure..it starts to set in what do we have to do to beat these guys...trust me i know!!!Well, I'm "crazy" for the game. I bought tickets on the 50 yard line. I'm not worried in the slightest though in terms of winning that game.

[TheHustler]

OL play. With Adams back, Kosier new and a possible new RT, not sure that will be enough time to gel.

[DragonCowboy]

The funniest thing about this is that the thread starter has gone from worries to now just assuming that the Redskins win.

I guess there's no reason for me to watch that game, the Redskins will win anyway, and begin a 1000000000 game winning streak against us. sigh..

[TheHustler]

thanks for all the replys on this thread,but its hard for me to believe that a true cowboy fan wouldnt be going crazy if the redskins comes to big d week 2 and win,the carry over from last year is still there...again it has no reflection on your season...but the rivalry thing im not so sure..it starts to set in what do we have to do to beat these guys...trust me i know!!!

Game 1 was a fluke, game 2 we got thumped.

Personally, I'm not worried about it becoming a trend.

[MONT17]

I have a quick question for skins fans... if Archuletta got a 10 million bonus or what ever it was... what do u think Taylor will ask for?

oh and back to Topic...

week 2 no matter what happens the Boys wont back down this is a PARCELLS coached team stocked full with the players that have some stones... I wrote them off last year and they came back to beat teams like the PANTHERS and Chiefs when all seemed lost for the season!!!


the only reason why the BOYS owned the SKINS for 5 or 6 years was because the Skins had a bunch of players and coaches who played for the paycheck and not much more! How many times did QUINCY CARTER beat Skins?

[big dog cowboy]

My biggest fear? "redskins1" won't have any grammar skills. Oh wait...
:lmao:

[redskins1]

THEHUSTLER,,are sure game 1 was a fluke,your team only scored 13 pts.its not like the game was out of reach...now game 2 was out of reach..no doubt about it..

[AsthmaField]

thanks for all the replys on this thread,but its hard for me to believe that a true cowboy fan wouldnt be going crazy if the redskins comes to big d week 2 and win,the carry over from last year is still there...again it has no reflection on your season...but the rivalry thing im not so sure..it starts to set in what do we have to do to beat these guys...trust me i know!!!

It's simple. It isn't our superbowl like it is your's.

This Dallas team isn't like the Redskins team that you used to have. They won't be wondering "what do we have to do to beat these guys?" They have heart and talent. I know the current Redskins team does too... but the one in the early 00's didn't.

See, you assume that because the redskins were on the wrong side of a 15 game losing streak, that the tide will eventually turn and Dallas will be on a losing streak like that.

That may never again happen in our lifetime. More likely, it will be like it has always been with Washington, NY and Philly. Splitting the season series with the occasional 3-4 game winning/losing streaks placed in there.

So don't sit around expecting Washington to even the score on that streak any time soon.

[RiggoForever]

I have a quick question for skins fans... if Archuletta got a 10 million bonus or what ever it was... what do u think Taylor will ask for?

oh and back to Topic...

week 2 no matter what happens the Boys wont back down this is a PARCELLS coached team stocked full with the players that have some stones... I wrote them off last year and they came back to beat teams like the PANTHERS and Chiefs when all seemed lost for the season!!!


the only reason why the BOYS owned the SKINS for 5 or 6 years was because the Skins had a bunch of players and coaches who played for the paycheck and not much more! How many times did QUINCY CARTER beat Skins?

You're absolutely right. When Campo owns Turner or Spurrier, it doesn't have the same meaning as Gibbs and Parcells going head to head.

The rivalry is always strongest when both teams have playoff aspirations.

[RiggoForever]

It's simple. It isn't our superbowl like it is your's.

This Dallas team isn't like the Redskins team that you used to have. They won't be wondering "what do we have to do to beat these guys?" They have heart and talent. I know the current Redskins team does too... but the one in the early 00's didn't.

See, you assume that because the redskins were on the wrong side of a 15 game losing streak, that the tide will eventually turn and Dallas will be on a losing streak like that.

That may never again happen in our lifetime. More likely, it will be like it has always been with Washington, NY and Philly. Splitting the season series with the occasional 3-4 game winning/losing streaks placed in there.

So don't sit around expecting Washington to even the score on that streak any time soon.

I agree...coach and attitude are everything. When the Redskins were winning Super Bowls, Cowboys would still fight tooth and nail because Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson were leading the charge.

The 1991 game at RFK was such a gutsy play calling game by Johnson. He knew it would take risks to beat the Skins, and he pulled it off and ruined our chance for a perfect season.

Then the Redskins return the favor by having an even score through the Cowboys dynasty 92-95.

Finally, having Norv at the helm and too many players retire on our end, got to us and the Cowboys streak began in 1998.

[dreamshatterer]

Whatever happens, I hope everybody is 100% healthy before and after the game. I also hope its a good game.

[AsthmaField]

1. I think it will be a huge deal to the Cowboys fans and players. TOs first game at Texas Stadium, and 60,000 screaming fans wanting revenge for last year. Not to mention Parcells, who took the loss very personally.

That's your opinion. I can speak for myself and I know that it simply won't be that much bigger than the Jax game before it or the Tenn game after it.

It will be some bigger, but that's because it is the Redskins... not because we lost both last year. It'll be fun.

It will be TO's second game. Jax will be the first and Tenn will be the third. They'll all be big deals. Trust me, I've been to redskin message boards... the Redskins level of obsession with Dallas isn't reciprocated. Ya'll just aren't that big of a deal to us. You once were, and maybe you will be again. But not right now.

Parcells took it personally because his team played like crap... not because it was the Redskins that beat us. He worked on his team to get them back playing better. He didn't obsess with Washington and say DC fans are ugly.



3. If I wasn't a Redskins fan, I'd agree with you that we don't have the amount of talent other teams have. But not everything in the NFL can be spelled out by stats and paper, particularly because at this level everybodys good. The Redskins are tough-minded and will fight for 60 minutes, even when on the road and with an injured QB, RB, and no number 2 receiver.

That's what I said. Washington is a pretty good team. Well coached. You don't have players or units that scare anyone though. Just because you're a Redskins fan and over-estimate the talent on your team, doesn't mean that talent is really there. And I didn't say that you don't have the talent of other teams... I simply said none of your players or units scare me. Portis is talented. Taylor is talented. Washington is talented. Griffin is talented. They just don't scare anyone.


4. Tampa sucked? They went 5-1 in the NFC South last season, won their division, and had the number 1 defense in the NFL with an offense that was emerging at the end of the season with both a solid running and passing game. How do you qualify that as sucking?

Yeah, they just weren't very good, and the fact that you lost to them in the regular season and then barely beat them in the playoffs, isn't anything to crow about.

[RiggoForever]

By the way, I'll add that the win at Carolina by the Cowboys truly erased any doubt I had of the heart of the team. They could have folded but didn't.

The game against St.Louis was like an exhibition game because the outcome of the season had already been decided.

[BigDFan5]

THEEBS...thanks for your take,i just feel like if the skins win that game that a serious skins winning streak against your cowboys is on...who else feels that why?

Just to match the streak the Cowboys just ended you would need to win every game over us for the next 7 years. Sorry bud won't be happening. Dallas will win week 2, you should be more worried about finishing higher than 3rd

[skinsscalper]

In all honesty, this game means a whole lot less to Cowboys fans than it does to Redskins fans, and I'm not saying that to be antagonistic or demeaning. Look, you guys beat us twice last year. The first time that's happened since what 95? 96?

We gave you guys an @ss beating for what 6-7 straight years? We knew when we looked at the schedule that it was 2 wins, guaranteed. We could have been 2-14 in any of those seasons and the two wins would have been against the Skins. You guys won two straight and all of a sudden you feel like a curse has been lifted (and rightfully so), but until the Skins make a habit of beating the Boys, in all honesty, I'm more concerned with the Giants and Eagles (whose recent series' have been much more competitive against us). As it stands, those teams have provided a much more competitive rivalry, recently. The Skins? Not so much.

SS

[ArmchairRedskin]

I have a quick question for skins fans... if Archuletta got a 10 million bonus or what ever it was... what do u think Taylor will ask for?




Arch got a 5mill signing, 5 mill option, and 3mill in other bonuses.

Taylor got a 7.2 mill signing, 4.475 option and 1.37 in other bonuses.


Pretty close as it is now.

[RiggoForever]

That's your opinion. I can speak for myself and I know that it simply won't be that much bigger than the Jax game before it or the Tenn game after it.

It will be some bigger, but that's because it is the Redskins... not because we lost both last year. It'll be fun.

It will be TO's second game. Jax will be the first and Tenn will be the third. They'll all be big deals. Trust me, I've been to redskin message boards... the Redskins level of obsession with Dallas isn't reciprocated. Ya'll just aren't that big of a deal to us. You once were, and maybe you will be again. But not right now.

Parcells took it personally because his team played like crap... not because it was the Redskins that beat us. He worked on his team to get them back playing better. He didn't obsess with Washington and say DC fans are ugly.




That's what I said. Washington is a pretty good team. Well coached. You don't have players or units that scare anyone though. Just because you're a Redskins fan and over-estimate the talent on your team, doesn't mean that talent is really there. And I didn't say that you don't have the talent of other teams... I simply said none of your players or units scare me. Portis is talented. Taylor is talented. Washington is talented. Griffin is talented. They just don't scare anyone.



Yeah, they just weren't very good, and the fact that you lost to them in the regular season and then barely beat them in the playoffs, isn't anything to crow about.

First before I say anymore, I have seen you on other boards and you are one Cowboy poster I respect and I know doesn't troll.

May I ask how old you are though? If you're 20 or younger, I can understand you not seeing the Redskins the same way...because you've simply been better then us most of the last 15 years.

If Parcells didn't take it personally, why didn't he shake Gibbs' hand after the game? I think its fair to say both coaches respect each others abilities, but there is still a hatred there.

Give me reasons you feel the Bucs weren't any good. I don't think a team wins their division by accident.

[BigDFan5]

If Parcells didn't take it personally, why didn't he shake Gibbs' hand after the game? I think its fair to say both coaches respect each others abilities, but there is still a hatred there.



Thats false Riggo, after the game ended the field was hectic and he never made it to midfield, he shook gibbs hand near the entrance to the locker room.

[RiggoForever]

Just to match the streak the Cowboys just ended you would need to win every game over us for the next 7 years. Sorry bud won't be happening. Dallas will win week 2, you should be more worried about finishing higher than 3rd

Not quite 7 years more like 3 straight years after this past one. Then we'd need to have another 2 years to even the damage.

...98-01 sweeps (4 year streak)
02 split
03-04 sweeps (2 year streak)

[RiggoForever]

Thats false Riggo, after the game ended the field was hectic and he never made it to midfield, he shook gibbs hand near the entrance to the locker room.

I never heard that if its true, but I'll give Parcells the benefit of the doubt from his days with the Giants.

[AsthmaField]

First before I say anymore, I have seen you on other boards and you are one Cowboy poster I respect and I know doesn't troll.

May I ask how old you are though? If you're 20 or younger, I can understand you not seeing the Redskins the same way...because you've simply been better then us most of the last 15 years.

If Parcells didn't take it personally, why didn't he shake Gibbs' hand after the game? I think its fair to say both coaches respect each others abilities, but there is still a hatred there.

Give me reasons you feel the Bucs weren't any good. I don't think a team wins their division by accident.

You must post at CPND then. Great group of Redskin fans over there. I really enjoy talking to them.

Might I ask what name you post under over there?

I'm over 20 by a pretty good bit. I remember all the old rivalry days and when Gibbs was tearing it up. I love the Dallas/Washington rivalry and am hoping that it will get back to how it used to be. Now however, it just isn't what it once was and to expect that Washington would be in Dallas' mind if they win week 2 is just silly.

It's purely conjecture for you to say Parcells took it personally, just like it's conjecture for me to say he didn't. I think Parcells was upset with the performace of his team and would've been no matter the opponent that day.

Who knows why he didn't shake Gibbs hand? Maybe he did it because of how Gibbs had acted the year before when he barely even touched Bill's hand after the Dallas win? Maybe he got sidetracked jumping on a player or assistant coach? Who knows?

I'm certainly not looking at the incident as if Parcells has something against Washington because of that loss and now the week 2 game this year means more. It would be silly to do so, IMO.

And yeah, there is no love lost between Bill and Joe, but again, that doesn't mean Dallas losing in week 2 would devistate Dallas.

I didn't think Tampa was a good team becasue I watched them play several times last year, and came away less than impressed. Their D is pretty good, but not as good as many make them out to be. I don't think their QB is very good, and they play soft, IMO on both sides of the ball.

I just don't think they're very good. Being in a division with a pathetic Saints team and an Atlanta team that isn't nearly as good as people make them out to be isn't proof of much. Carolina is a good team, but they went through a period last year where they struggled quite a bit. Overall, I don't think Tampa's schedule was difficult and they came out on top of a weak division that only had Carolina in the way... and like I said, they had their troubles.

Take away Cadillac Williams and Tampa wouldn't have done squat.

If you're from CPND, you're okay by me riggo.

[RiggoForever]

You must post at CPND then. Great group of Redskin fans over there. I really enjoy talking to them.

Might I ask what name you post under over there?

I'm over 20 by a pretty good bit. I remember all the old rivalry days and when Gibbs was tearing it up. I love the Dallas/Washington rivalry and am hoping that it will get back to how it used to be. Now however, it just isn't what it once was and to expect that Washington would be in Dallas' mind if they win week 2 is just silly.

It's purely conjecture for you to say Parcells took it personally, just like it's conjecture for me to say he didn't. I think Parcells was upset with the performace of his team and would've been no matter the opponent that day.

Who knows why he didn't shake Gibbs hand? Maybe he did it because of how Gibbs had acted the year before when he barely even touched Bill's hand after the Dallas win? Maybe he got sidetracked jumping on a player or assistant coach? Who knows?

I'm certainly not looking at the incident as if Parcells has something against Washington because of that loss and now the week 2 game this year means more. It would be silly to do so, IMO.

And yeah, there is no love lost between Bill and Joe, but again, that doesn't mean Dallas losing in week 2 would devistate Dallas.

I didn't think Tampa was a good team becasue I watched them play several times last year, and came away less than impressed. Their D is pretty good, but not as good as many make them out to be. I don't think their QB is very good, and they play soft, IMO on both sides of the ball.

I just don't think they're very good. Being in a division with a pathetic Saints team and an Atlanta team that isn't nearly as good as people make them out to be isn't proof of much. Carolina is a good team, but they went through a period last year where they struggled quite a bit. Overall, I don't think Tampa's schedule was difficult and they came out on top of a weak division that only had Carolina in the way... and like I said, they had their troubles.

Take away Cadillac Williams and Tampa wouldn't have done squat.

If you're from CPND, you're okay by me riggo.

I go by SkinsIn07 there. Just out of curiousity, do you get the chance to see any Cowboys game live?

I think Tampa's good, but have my doubts they'll be in playoff contention this year because they have to play the entire NFC East and the key players on their defense (Brooks, Barber, Rice) are aging.

[AsthmaField]

I go by SkinsIn07 there. Just out of curiousity, do you get the chance to see any Cowboys game live?

I think Tampa's good, but have my doubts they'll be in playoff contention this year because they have to play the entire NFC East and the key players on their defense (Brooks, Barber, Rice) are aging.

It has been a very long time since I've gone to a Dallas game. I used to live in Texas (born there) so I had easy access then. Now I live in Mississippi, so I don't get there very often.

I haven't missed a dallas game since directv came out though. :)

Actually, I don't think I've missed a single snap of a Dallas game since directv came out.

I remember the old days and having to watch whatever game is on TV (usually the Saints here) and watch for the score of the Dallas game. The Gamebreaks when they'd show a TD from another game used to be HUGE. And Primetime, where I could see all the Dallas highlights was like gold.

Technology is great.

Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion of Tampa.... personally, I don't like them... but I've been wrong before.

[Bizwah]

As far as the "handshaking" incident......this is what I heard.

If you remember, Rivera was hurt pretty badly during the Skins game. He lay motionless on the field for a while....as Parcells and Gibbs headed toward midfield, Parcells pointed to the exit and Gibbs nodded.

It was an unspoken message that Parcells wanted to check on his player. I believe it was Gibbs that said that after the game.

The Redskin game will always be "the rivalry". I do want us to beat them more than any other team. I also respect them more than the other NFC East teams. Now, that's not saying much....because I hate them all.

This really will be a fun year. All the East will be formidable. The team that finishes last should have nothing to be ashamed of.

To answer the question seriously......

I'm more worried about the Cowboys trying to "press" too much. I think we outclass the Skins talent-wise.

[Ren]

I live in Norway so my biggest worry is that this will not be a TV game here