T.O. and the kid with the Eagles hat

[Tass]

Dude, that was some good stuff. I'll repost Tanin's firsthand account:

"When T.O. was running the drill with us, he spotted a kid with a Philly Eagle hat and with an irritated look on his face said-"Man, why you wearin' that out here?!" he then yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up, throwing it on the field. But he did give the kid a new hat, the T.O. camp hat. After he was finished with us and wanted to move on into the little kid group, he kicked the eagle hat and said-"Kick that hat off the field!" I have to say it was pretty funny when he did that."

Good stuff. Something else I saw that the articles I read didn't mention: When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.

[littlewebs]

Dude, that was some good stuff. I'll repost Tanin's firsthand account:

"When T.O. was running the drill with us, he spotted a kid with a Philly Eagle hat and with an irritated look on his face said-"Man, why you wearin' that out here?!" he then yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up, throwing it on the field. But he did give the kid a new hat, the T.O. camp hat. After he was finished with us and wanted to move on into the little kid group, he kicked the eagle hat and said-"Kick that hat off the field!" I have to say it was pretty funny when he did that."

Good stuff. Something else I saw that the articles I read didn't mention: When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.

Yeah... too many athletes (not just TO) are arrogant jerks in person. I guess that's what happens when you're a millionaire that women swoon over and you lead Sportscenter 47 times in a 6 week period.

[TheHustler]

Good stuff. Something else I saw that the articles I read didn't mention: When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.

Ouch.

[Yeagermeister]

Dude, that was some good stuff. I'll repost Tanin's firsthand account:

"When T.O. was running the drill with us, he spotted a kid with a Philly Eagle hat and with an irritated look on his face said-"Man, why you wearin' that out here?!" he then yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up, throwing it on the field. But he did give the kid a new hat, the T.O. camp hat. After he was finished with us and wanted to move on into the little kid group, he kicked the eagle hat and said-"Kick that hat off the field!" I have to say it was pretty funny when he did that."

Good stuff. Something else I saw that the articles I read didn't mention: When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.

Yeah he's been humbled :rolleyes:

[Alexander]

Yeah he's been humbled :rolleyes:

Well, we all knew he wasn't brought here to encourage overweight kids. I don't think he was right in saying it, but it was ribbing. But still not something you say to a chunky child, even though he absolutely would have caught the pizza. The last thing anyone should expect him to do is turn into Mister Politically Correct.

[Tanin T.]

The Eagle hat was funny to me and atleast T.O. gave him a new hat...but I didn't hear Terrel say that to that poor kid. I mean it was kinda funny when my dad first told me, but when I got to thinking, it really wasn't the right thing to say to a little kid. I mean, that's something you say to your friend not some kid you don't know...even if T.O. and his butt monkey Rosenhaus thought it was funny-it really isn't.

[SupermanXx]

When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!"

:lmao:

[zrinkill]

Thats the same kinds of things that their highschool coaches will say to them if they are overweight.

This is football camp guys ....... not playschool.

[Tass]

Yeah he's been humbled :rolleyes:


It's funny. The guys that are 'Superstars' always tend to act like jerks. Does superstardom MAKE you a jerk or are jerks the only ones selfish enough to attention-whore their way to superstardom?

Example: I've met and talked with Daryl Johnston, Tim McDonald, Steve Tasker, Larry Brown, Zuriel Smith, Ray Crockett, Warrick Dunn and Brett Favre. ALL of those guys were completely cool, approachable and friendly. (I met Favre back in 94 though...he wasn't a 'Superstar' yet)

I've also met and talked with Michael Irvin, Deion Sanders, Andre Rison, Howie Long and Terrell Owens. They were all jerks.

Hmmm....

[sacase]

people are so sensitive. I heard alot worse stuff than that from flag football all the way through college.

[Tass]

Thats the same kinds of things that their highschool coaches will say to them if they are overweight.

This is football camp guys ....... not playschool.

Dude, the kid was like 7 or 8 years old. In Highschool a kid built like him wouldn't be running patterns and trying to catch a ball, either.

[Everlastingxxx]

Fat people should always be insulted just ask Parcells.

[Tanin T.]

Dude, the kid was like 7 or 8 years old. In Highschool a kid built like him wouldn't be running patterns and trying to catch a ball, either.
Exactly what I'm trying to say, thank you pop.

[Alexander]

Fat people should always be insulted just ask Parcells.

That's true.

Owens probably was victimized by an unoriginal moment and was repeating what Parcells probably screamed at Skyler Green that morning.

[SupermanXx]

If Drew Henson is serious about being the future of the Cowboys franchise his strategy should be obvious: Dye his hair dark brown, wear brown contact lenses and change his name to Drew Ensonelli. Parcells would immediately anoint him as Bledsoe's successor.




:lmao2: so true

The Bill Parcells Checklist

you must be each or most of the following to play on a Parcells team:

1) white
2) Italian
3) from New York or New Jersey
4) eat braciole on a regular basis
5) have a relative that somehow knows Parcells
6) be able to have this said about you by Parcells: "I know him" or "I know his ____"

[Tanin T.]

Fat people should always be insulted just ask Parcells.
Sure, but not 7 year olds

[superpunk]

people are so sensitive. I heard alot worse stuff than that from flag football all the way through college.

Yeah. But it does tear at the ole heartstrings a little. Especially considering it's probably the kids parents fault he's chubby, and not his own.

But as guys, I think we all know that if you have ANY defiency - it is going to be picked on unmercifully in any sports related activities - by coaches and teammates alike. It's part of growing up, and it helps thicken the skin. My head was too big for my body for 10 years. You don't think I heard plenty about that?

[Tanin T.]

My head was too big for my body for 10 years. You don't think I heard plenty about that?
By your idol that you wanted to meet so badly?

[Alexander]

Yeah. But it does tear at the ole heartstrings a little. Especially considering it's probably the kids parents fault he's chubby, and not his own.

Chunky children are a nationwide epidemic. And that blame does go to the parents. It isn't just all genetics anymore. If you are going to ask your child be athletic, make sure they eat right. And turn the television off, hide the box of Twinkies and do your job.

But as guys, I think we all know that if you have ANY defiency - it is going to be picked on unmercifully in any sports related activities - by coaches and teammates alike. It's part of growing up, and it helps thicken the skin. My head was too big for my body for 10 years. You don't think I heard plenty about that?

That surprises me, Melon-head.

[zrinkill]

That surprises me, Melon-head.

:lmao:

[SupermanXx]

let it go guys, we get the point

While somewhat funny, T.O. probably should not have said what he said since the kid was 7 (and a kid)

However, it's not like T.O. told the kid that he's a waste of life and to go to hell (although, I would have laughed my *** off if he had actually said this)

[Hostile]

Thats the same kinds of things that their highschool coaches will say to them if they are overweight.

This is football camp guys ....... not playschool.I was thinking the same thing. If the coaches know you're sensitive about it they will even make it worse.

I'm not excusing it, but it's reality folks.

[superpunk]

By your idol that you wanted to meet so badly?

Well, I was never in that situation, lol. A girl I really liked once made fun of my head, but I learned to laugh that stuff off.

It hurt, and like I said, that was something I had absolutely no control over, just as this kid is probably the product of his parents upbringing - not really something you can control either.

It was in poor taste - no doubt. I just don't think it should be all that surprising, at a football camp. It was definitely thoughtless, and hurtful, but that's pretty much what my childhood was all about. When you've got 5 uncles and 5 older male cousins, you're gonna be the brunt of alot of jokes. Now that I'm older, I can appreciate what that did for me. Maybe the kid will benefit, maybe he'll just hate TO. I dunno. I wouldn't have said it to a kid I don't know, but I say stuff just as insulting to my 10 year old brother and his friends whenever I take them to the park and play a pickup game.

[zrinkill]

Dude, the kid was like 7 or 8 years old. In Highschool a kid built like him wouldn't be running patterns and trying to catch a ball, either.

Hey I would not have been able to say that to the kid ..... But he signed up for a wide recievers football camp.

Hopefully the kid will see that if he is going to play Football at a skill position he will have to be in great shape and put up with coaches who are not going to baby him like his parents do.

It was a harsh thing to say ....... but I will assume that T.O. thinks thats the only way to motivate (he did just leave a Bill Parcells run camp :laugh1: )

[superpunk]

Chunky children are a nationwide epidemic. And that blame does go to the parents. It isn't just all genetics anymore. If you are going to ask your child be athletic, make sure they eat right. And turn the television off, hide the box of Twinkies and do your job.

Damn str8. My parents would lock me out of the house when I came home from school. Which led to my friends and I developing games like "apple-fight" in the orchards, "brick-fight" in the abandoned sheds, and "corn cob fight" in the neighbors feed barn.

It was great.

That surprises me, Melon-head.

It is shocking. I overstretched many a shirt collar.

[austintodallas]

let it go guys, we get the point

While somewhat funny, T.O. probably should not have said what he said since the kid was 7 (and a kid)

However, it's not like T.O. told the kid that he's a waste of life and to go to hell (although, I would have laughed my *** off if he had actually said this) Cold Bloooded! http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/RickJames.jpg

[Tass]

Hey I would not have been able to say that to the kid ..... But he signed up for a wide recievers football camp.

Hopefully the kid will see that if he is going to play Football at a skill position he will have to be in great shape and put up with coaches who are not going to baby him like his parents do.

It was a harsh thing to say ....... but I will assume that T.O. thinks thats the only way to motivate (he did just leave a Bill Parcells run camp :laugh1: )

You don't understand. The camp advertised itself as a camp for players at ALL positions. Yes, a WR was the name on the camp but there were all diff coaches there for all diff positions. That said, they made all the kids do all the drills for all the positions. If it had been a WR's only camp then the chunky kid might be kind of asking for it. He was there to brush up on O-line stuff, though.

[Alexander]

What I think is just smashing is that the private conversations between Owens and Rosenhaus (or just Rosenhaus) have been scrutized in these reports.

Rosenhaus and Owens laughed at the overweight child, Rosenhaus isn't a sensitive boyfriend and wasn't in tears about a girlfriend's kidney infection, etc.

I am sure if I eavesdropped on someone, I'd catch some politically incorrect comment out of them eventually. And the chances would increase exponentially if I were bird-dogging a known jerk, which both probably are. Why the shock and amazement?

[5Stars]

When I played baseball in jr. high (catcher and first base), I had a football coach ask me one time if I was pregnant when I was coming out of the shower, because I was a little fat around the belly. He did this in front of the team...and yeah, I was embarassed and pissed...

I took that as a slam, then thought to myself that maybe I was not eating right...so I corrected it and lost that weight, did sit-up, jumping jacks, and ran a lot....

The following year after baseball practice I was walking off the field heading to the locker room, and this football coach and some other kids that played football were out there...and this football got overthrown and it came bouncing my way. Well, I picked it up and threw it back to that coach as hard as I could throw and it hit the coach in the chest and bounced off....I told him, "what's wrong coach Johnson, your stomach made of rubber?"

He walked over to me and asked if I wanted to try out for the QB position because I threw the ball so good....I told him no thanks and walked away...never played football, but played baseball all through jr. high and high school...

Now, I CANNOT STAND BASEBALL! The strike during the World Series was all it took!!

But, all sports are mental, and nasty things are going to be said...but, that's how you grow up.

Either that, or you parents can name you "Sue"..

:star:

[Tass]

What I think is just smashing is that the private conversations between Owens and Rosenhaus (or just Rosenhaus) have been scrutized in these reports.

Rosenhaus and Owens laughed at the overweight child, Rosenhaus isn't a sensitive boyfriend and wasn't in tears about a girlfriend's kidney infection, etc.

I am sure if I eavesdropped on someone, I'd catch some politically incorrect comment out of them eventually. And the chances would increase exponentially if I were bird-dogging a known jerk, which both probably are. Why the shock and amazement?

Don't be intellectually dishonest. Private conversations don't take place out in the open around a bunch of people. Who said they were shocked and amazed? It's exactly what I expect from these guys. Had Rosenhaus given a crap about his gf THEN I'd be amazed. If TO had paid attention to the kids and acted like he was actually THERE I would have been shocked. Don't exaggerate what I said, dude.

[sacase]

I know I said many a harsh thing to people and had many a harsh thing said to me. One thing it teaches you to blow stuff off and be like whatever. Now one of my Former supervisior from my time in the Army see's me and he says what's up chunky butt. My response is I still get ***, so I'll be that. (that's from a redman song back in the day)

[Alexander]

Don't be intellectually dishonest. Private conversations don't take place out in the open around a bunch of people.

Going up to him after the fact and saying good one was done in plain view?

Who said they were shocked and amazed? It's exactly what I expect from these guys. Had Rosenhaus given a crap about his gf THEN I'd be amazed. If TO had paid attention to the kids and acted like he was actually THERE I would have been shocked. Don't exaggerate what I said, dude.

I wasn't exagerrating anything.

The cell phone call was private. The girlfriend conversation was private. I could eavesdrop on anyone when they didn't think I was paying attention and catch them saying something rude or inappropriate. But thanks for doing your due diligence to have your own low expectations met and share them with everyone.

[Tass]

Going up to him after the fact and saying good one was done in plain view?

Rosenhaus was leaning against the rail and yelled it. "Good one, buddy!"


I wasn't exagerrating anything.

The cell phone call was private. The girlfriend conversation was private. I could eavesdrop on anyone when they didn't think I was paying attention and catch them saying something rude or inappropriate. But thanks for doing your due diligence to have your own low expectations met and share them with everyone.

He was sitting in public chatting away on his cell phone with other people sitting around him. If it was truly 'private' he would have gone up to the top row of bleachers where nobody was around. (If I don't want people to hear my conversations, I usually make sure nobody is within earshot). BTW, he did have other conversations he did indeed consider private earlier in the day. He made a point to walk away and be completely alone.

You can call it 'eavesdropping' if you like. I call it 'Sitting there watching the kids while this guy chatters away on his cell phone while sitting 6 feet in front of me.' You couldn't NOT hear him!

[Yakuza Rich]

I feel sorry for any kid that is obese or even overweight at the age of seven years old. I was lucky in that I was born with a naturally thin frame, but there's really no excuse for letting a 7 year old kid to get out of shape.

Unfortunately, the kid isn't out of shape because he's just lazy, his parents have probably done very little to help the kid out. Alexander is right, it's an epidemic. I watch my own neice with her petruding gut because all she will eat is fried chicken fingers and my sister and brother in law don't force her to eat foods with good nutritional value.

What Owens did was give some tough love to the kid. Hell, I had coaches say a lot worse things to me at around the same age....and one of the coaches happened to be my father. I think the big difference was....and in my father's case especially....is that they would eventually take the player aside and tell them why they are riding the kid. Unfortunately when Owens brought the kid to tears, he didn't do that.

It wasn't the worst thing in the world and for the most part, I don't think he really crossed the line. Unfortunately the coaching staff should probably realize that this overweight kid probably has never had tough love brought on him before and may not be able to handle it.

But, if this kid ever wants to play football on any higher level (or just about any sport for that matter), he'd better be equipped to deal with this type of criticism.


Rich...........

[davidyee]

First, each of the kids had to pay to be in that camp. So the kid paid for that treatment.

Second, the other coaches seem to be fine going through the day without reducing this kid to tears.

Third, the pics submitted by members, the presence of Rosenhaus and the reaction of the children made it abundantly clear who this camp was promoted by and shilling for. Terrell Owens.

Not only was the comment uncalled for, but there is a necessity and expectation for public decency and behavior towards young children. Especially when children have paid for a service.

Now how much of this being true, the kid crying over the comment, if it did occur I wouldn't be too happy about his actions.

This reminds me alot of the Simpsons episode where Bart and Lisa sign up for Camp Krusty and don't see Krusty the Klown for the entire camp. Krusty ends up taking the kids to Tijuana.

In this case I would suggest that PR Kim and personal mouthpiece Rosenhaus consider other venues for Owens to present his public image.

If this is all true.

[chinch]

maybe it's a Killeen, TX thing, but you gotta let the Drew R. hate go.

there's no cryin' in football (or baseball)... maybe the kid will take that comment (if it was even said at all) and use it as motivation to change his path. (either that or maybe an animal house repeat will air unedited "short fat and stuipid is... ")

no offense, but reading these reports & such makes me sorta glad i missed the part where people on the forum chipped in $$$ to send some of you there!

[Tass]

maybe it's a Killeen, TX thing, but you gotta let the Drew R. hate go.

there's no cryin' in football (or baseball)... maybe the kid will take that comment (if it was even said at all) and use it as motivation to change his path. (either that or maybe an animal house repeat will air unedited "short fat and stuipid is... ")

no offense, but reading these reports & such makes me sorta glad i missed the part where people on the forum chipped in $$$ to send some of you there!

I don't hate Drew. I kind of feel sorry for the guy. To be that disconnected to other human beings is just sad, man. Some of you guys are focusing on just some of this stuff. The kids from the Zone DID have a good time and learned a great deal. It just wasn't due to Owens or his agent.

I could have gone to the camp and covered my ears and closed my eyes but, gee, what fun would that have been?

[davidyee]

I feel sorry for any kid that is obese or even overweight at the age of seven years old. I was lucky in that I was born with a naturally thin frame, but there's really no excuse for letting a 7 year old kid to get out of shape.

Unfortunately, the kid isn't out of shape because he's just lazy, his parents have probably done very little to help the kid out. Alexander is right, it's an epidemic. I watch my own neice with her petruding gut because all she will eat is fried chicken fingers and my sister and brother in law don't force her to eat foods with good nutritional value.

What Owens did was give some tough love to the kid. Hell, I had coaches say a lot worse things to me at around the same age....and one of the coaches happened to be my father. I think the big difference was....and in my father's case especially....is that they would eventually take the player aside and tell them why they are riding the kid. Unfortunately when Owens brought the kid to tears, he didn't do that.

It wasn't the worst thing in the world and for the most part, I don't think he really crossed the line. Unfortunately the coaching staff should probably realize that this overweight kid probably has never had tough love brought on him before and may not be able to handle it.

But, if this kid ever wants to play football on any higher level (or just about any sport for that matter), he'd better be equipped to deal with this type of criticism.


Rich...........

...does he have to pay for that criticism?

I think some of you know that this year I decided to do some volunteer coaching for a fledgling football team in our town.

One of the problems I noticed was that the majority of the kids who joined were not the very best of athletes. All the hockey players were told to stay away from our mini camp because they could get seriously hurt in peewee football and thus jeopardize their NHL hockey careers. ( I got a real kick out of that one.)

Well, in the end what did we get to join the team. Alot of good kids, some athletic and definitely some who have been marginalized because they are not going to be the next Wayne Gretzky.

It became abundantly clear that we needed these kids and like you have inferred, these kids need some form of exercise and team participation. There's no benefit to having less athletic kids drop out.

Building up their self esteem and having them commit to physical fitness and learning to function within a team is a good thing - much of what football is able to offer them. That good can only be served with keeping the kid interested in football.

I'm not sure how good denigrating a 7 year old child is going to be helpful in keeping his or her interest in sports?

[Tass]

If this is all true.

I wish some of it weren't. I was hoping that Owens was...I don't know. A better guy.

[Everlastingxxx]

no offense, but reading these reports & such makes me sorta glad i missed the part where people on the forum chipped in $$$ to send some of you there!

They are happy they went and got something out of it. But i for one, would never go to a players camp if i disliked the player greatly. Tass is quoted as saying he hoped TO broke his leg again this season.

[CowboysNumeroUno]

I've never played organized football in my life, partly because I was born with a naturally thin frame, but anyway....

I agree with both sides of the argument. I just think its harder when the person pokin fun at you is your superstar idol, not some hardass coach that you would partly expect it from.

[davidyee]

I wish some of it weren't. I was hoping that Owens was...I don't know. A better guy.

...if there was a public service done as a result of the forum sending some members to this camp it is that wwe shold not expect anything more from T.O. other than good play on the football field.

He's probably a player you have to ignore off the field. Hopefully the team and the fans get exactly what we want from him. From what I hear dollarwise he got exactly what he wanted out of Jerry and the Cowboys.

[Tass]

They are happy they went and got something out of it. But i for one, would never go to a players camp if i disliked the player greatly. Tass is quoted as saying he hoped TO broke his leg again this season.

Yes, dude, I dislike him greatly. My son doesn't share my low opinion of the man. He was the one attending the camp. I was just his ride.

[Phoenix-Talon]

[quote=Tass]TO ...then yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up, throwing it on the field. But he did give the kid a new hat.


You guys are actually praising this behavior? It's funny? I completely understand the sentiment behind his behavior, but unless this whole thing was staged specifically for the media's sake ...it was incredulous behavior.

What kind of message is TO sending ...

Even though the cmp rules did not prohibit the wearing of sports gear from another team, we're confiscating your personal property!

Watch how I deal with things that I don't agree with ...!

You've paid your camp registration fee, so you've lost your rights to freedom of expression; even if you are just observing us from off the field!

I thought even TO was bigger than that this! Perhaps, some of you may need to re-evaluate your ethics.

[5Stars]

Yes, dude, I dislike him greatly. My son doesn't share my low opinion of the man. He was the one attending the camp. I was just his ride.

"Tass is quoted as saying he hoped TO broke his leg again this season."

Did you really say that? tsk, tsk, tsk....

Drop and give us 40!

You should never wish injury on a player, bro! :(

[superpunk]

I thought even TO was bigger than that this! Perhaps, some of you may need to re-evaluate your ethics.

:bow:All hail PT, lord of ethics.:bow:

:rolleyes:

[5Stars]

[quote]

You guys are actually praising this behavior? It's funny? I completely understand the sentiment behind his behavior, but unless this whole thing was staged specifically for the media's sake ...it was incredulous behavior.

What kind of message is TO sending ...

Even though the cmp rules did not prohibit the wearing of sports gear from another team, we're confiscating your personal property!

Watch how I deal with things that I don't agree with ...!

You've paid your camp registration fee, so you've lost your rights to freedom of expression; even if you are just observing us from off the field!

I thought even TO was bigger than that this! Perhaps, some of you may need to re-evaluate your ethics.

He took the Eagle cap off the kid to try and salvage something out the boy! Look how you turned out! :laugh2:

[Tass]

[QUOTE]

You guys are actually praising this behavior? It's funny? I completely understand the sentiment behind his behavior, but unless this whole thing was staged specifically for the media's sake ...it was incredulous behavior.

What kind of message is TO sending ...

Even though the cmp rules did not prohibit the wearing of sports gear from another team, we're confiscating your personal property!

Watch how I deal with things that I don't agree with ...!

You've paid your camp registration fee, so you've lost your rights to freedom of expression; even if you are just observing us from off the field!

I thought even TO was bigger than that this! Perhaps, some of you may need to re-evaluate your ethics.

Your kidding, right? If the situation were...oh, a kid going to a McNabb football camp with a Cowboys cap on McNabb wouldn't yank the hat off his head, true. He wouldn't be able to because the kid would have been carted off in an ambulance after the Eagle fan parents kicked the crap out of said kid.

[superpunk]

What's that 5stars?


:disseags:

[5Stars]

[quote=Phoenix-Talon]

Your kidding, right? If the situation were...oh, a kid going to a McNabb football camp with a Cowboys cap on McNabb wouldn't yank the hat off his head, true. He wouldn't be able to because the kid would have been carted off in an ambulance after the Eagle fan parents kicked the crap out of said kid.

:lmao2: :laugh2: :laugh1:

[5Stars]

What's that 5stars?


:disseags:

Is your dog name Andy?

My dog is named Gibbs...here is his picture...a damn good dog, too!

:dissskin:

[chinch]

They are happy they went and got something out of it. But i for one, would never go to a players camp if i disliked the player greatly. Tass is quoted as saying he hoped TO broke his leg again this season.
bingo.

probalby wouldn't send them even if they liked the player... just what we don't need is more idol worshiping by young kids .

Tass is quoted as saying he hoped TO broke his leg again this season.
that is disgracefull and classless if he said that unfortunately. :(

[Phoenix-Talon]

[quote=Phoenix-Talon]

He took the Eagle cap off the kid to try and salvage something out the boy! Look how you turned out!

...he "yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up!"

Throw in some trauma you get your mentality!:rolleyes:

[SultanOfSix]

Wow. Talk about blowing comments way out of proportion.

[cowboywho?]

lmfao. Has you guys ever watch Full Metal Jacket?

Yeah good stuff.

:D

[Alexander]

:bow:All hail PT, lord of ethics.:bow:

:rolleyes:

:laugh2:

[cowboyeric8]

[QUOTE]

You guys are actually praising this behavior? It's funny? I completely understand the sentiment behind his behavior, but unless this whole thing was staged specifically for the media's sake ...it was incredulous behavior.

What kind of message is TO sending ...

Even though the cmp rules did not prohibit the wearing of sports gear from another team, we're confiscating your personal property!

Watch how I deal with things that I don't agree with ...!

You've paid your camp registration fee, so you've lost your rights to freedom of expression; even if you are just observing us from off the field!

I thought even TO was bigger than that this! Perhaps, some of you may need to re-evaluate your ethics.

Dont worry man, the kid got the hat back along with a TO cap, so he basically benifited. And yes TO did it for the media.

[cowboyeric8]

wow, TO gets everybody's juices flowing, lol.

[cowboywho?]

[quote=Phoenix-Talon]

Dont worry man, the kid got the hat back along with a TO cap, so he basically benifited. And yes TO did it for the media.

Wait this kid is a eagle fan, who has his cap crumbled up and been given a cap of TO, which he probably will never wear. Now all he has left is a crumbled eagle hat (and you never know if this is a valuable hand me down) and a hat he didnt want to begin with.

Even if he did it for the media it isnt an excuse.

[Hostile]

Dont worry man, the kid got the hat back along with a TO cap, so he basically benifited. And yes TO did it for the media.He was trying to be funny. That seems obvious to me. Why it became a big deal is beyond me.

[cowboywho?]

He was trying to be funny. That seems obvious to me. Why it became a big deal is beyond me.

So let say a Redskin fan walk by you during a game which the cowboy is playing in DC. He grab your cowboy cap and threw it on the ground and kick it around and said the exact same thing to you as TO did to the kid. Would that be funny?

[5Stars]

[quote=cowboyeric8]

Wait this kid is a eagle fan, who has his cap crumbled up and been given a cap of TO, which he probably will never wear. Now all he has left is a crumbled eagle hat (and you never know if this is a valuable hand me down) and a hat he didnt want to begin with.

Even if he did it for the media it isnt an excuse.

Here is something that is not an excuse....

Here GIBBS....come boy...Gibbs come...come!

:dissskin:

Good dog...

[Hostile]

So let say a Redskin fan walk by you during a game which the cowboy is playing in DC. He grab your cowboy cap and threw it on the ground and kick it around and said the exact same thing to you as TO did to the kid. Would that be funny?That's apples and oranges.

Let's say I go to a comedy club and the comedian steals my drink and cracks jokes about me wanting it back.

Would that be funny?

[cowboyeric8]

[quote=cowboyeric8]

Wait this kid is a eagle fan, who has his cap crumbled up and been given a cap of TO, which he probably will never wear. Now all he has left is a crumbled eagle hat (and you never know if this is a valuable hand me down) and a hat he didnt want to begin with.

Even if he did it for the media it isnt an excuse.

Ok seriously, wad up any cap you own and see if it comes back to form, I bet it does. He didn't mess with the bill of it so the hat is doing just fine. And actually I bet he treasures the TO cap because well, he came to a "TO" camp that he will never forget.

So please calm down people.

[cowboywho?]

That's apples and oranges.

Let's say I go to a comedy club and the comedian steals my drink and cracks jokes about me wanting it back.

Would that be funny?

Are you saying that TO is a comedian?
It's not TO job to be funny.

[cowboyeric8]

Can anybody say "Troll", because I can.

[Hostile]

Ok seriously, wad up any cap you own and see if it comes back to form, I bet it does. He didn't mess with the bill of it so the hat is doing just fine. And actually I bet he treasures the TO cap because well, he came to a "TO" camp that he will never forget.

So please calm down people.Eric, you are seeing first hand the effects of reading People Magazine and National Enquirer to get your news. Everything is trauma, everything is hysteria, everything is chicken little.

When confronted with this mentality there is only one good plan. Tear your hair out with both and scream abotu the end of the world.

(A better plan is to take notes and learn from hysteria.)

:wink2:

[cowboyeric8]

Eric, you are seeing first hand the effects of reading People Magazine and National Enquirer to get your news. Everything is trauma, everything is hysteria, everything is chicken little.

When confronted with this mentality there is only one good plan. Tear your hair out with both and scream abotu the end of the world.

(A better plan is to take notes and learn from hysteria.)

:wink2:

yeah :D

[Vintage]

Should any of us really be surprised by this? No, probably not.

But that doesn't mean you are wrong in finding him to be a jerk.

We can criticise him all we want. He won't change. And neither will Rosenhaus. We now have to deal with it.

That being said, if T.O. were to go down with a season ending injury, I would feel sorry for our team and the lost opportunity we had.

But not for T.O.

------

As for the overweigth kid....that is truly sad. It doesn't matter if its true or not (the kid being fat), he is SEVEN. And T.O. is an adult. Well, he is supposed to be one.

That's pathetic.

Yes, the kid probably gets heckled by his friends...but for an adult to heckle a kid, especially one who is 7, says a lot about Owens' character.

And I am not surprised by Rosenhaus' reply either. I am surprised he came up for air to say that (from being on Owens' dick)

-----------

Bottom line is; I hope we win.
I hope Owens behaves.

But I won't be holding my breath.

[Hostile]

Are you saying that TO is a comedian?
It's not TO job to be funny.I'm saying he was clowning around. Do you clown around? How dare you? Are you a comedian? You're not qualified to clown around.

I saw the kid on ESPN and it didn't look like he was traumatized. He got the joke. Then again he's probably 12 so he's got more life experience with fun than some.

[cowboywho?]

Can anybody say "Troll", because I can.

I am not trolling you guys are justifying someone who made a kid cried.

[Hostile]

I am not trolling you guys are justifying someone who made a kid cried.The kid who had the Eagles cap didn't cry.

[cowboyeric8]

I am not trolling you guys are justifying someone who made a kid cried.

Umm yes you are. TO did nothing wrong to the kid wearing the Eagle cap, the kid laughed.

But yes the pizza comment was low, but I don't think he meant it to hurt the kids feelings. And well I'm not sure he meant the pizza comment because he was fat, but than that kids like pizza. I'm not sure, and no one really knows.

This coming from someone who dislikes TO.

[cowboywho?]

I'm saying he was clowning around. Do you clown around? How dare you? Are you a comedian? You're not qualified to clown around.

I saw the kid on ESPN and it didn't look like he was traumatized. He got the joke. Then again he's probably 12 so he's got more life experience with fun than some.

I dont destroy someone property whiledoing it. and especailly tosomeone who is sever or eight. my god man. you are still justifying a grown man making a young one cry?

[cowboyeric8]

I dont destroy someone property whiledoing it. and especailly tosomeone who is sever or eight. my god man. you are still justifying a grown man making a young one cry?

again, maybe I wasn't speaking in words you can understand. TO DIDN'T DESTROY ANYTHING, THE CAP WENT RIGHT BACK TO FORM AND HE GOT A TO CAP WITH IT.

SO CHILL AND QUIT TROLLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tass]

I saw the kid on ESPN and it didn't look like he was traumatized. He got the joke. Then again he's probably 12 so he's got more life experience with fun than some.

Shoot, I missed it. Was it yesterday's Sportscenter?

[5Stars]

As for the overweigth kid....that is truly sad. It doesn't matter if its true or not (the kid being fat), he is SEVEN. And T.O. is an adult. Well, he is supposed to be one.

That's pathetic.

Yes, the kid probably gets heckled by his friends...but for an adult to heckle a kid, especially one who is 7, says a lot about Owens' character.

Football is not tennis, or tiddly-winks!

You have to me mentally tough to play...if the 7 year old did not like being told that, maybe he will grow up to do something else....?

The world is not a nice place to live in...no matter how old you are!

:star:

[cowboywho?]

again, maybe I wasn't speaking in words you can understand. TO DIDN'T DESTROY ANYTHING, THE CAP WENT RIGHT BACK TO FORM AND HE GOT A TO CAP WITH IT.

SO CHILL AND QUIT TROLLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please define trolling for me

[5Stars]

Please define trolling for me

I will...

YOU!

Now take a hike back to ExtremeStinks!
:dissskin:

[cowboywho?]

Whatever you guys are pointless.
I hope you guys enjoy making kids cry.

[DGreenFan87]

When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.


.....that TO is such a class act. :rolleyes:

[5Stars]

.....that TO is such a class act. :rolleyes:

and a jerk!

I think that the kids probably taught T.O. how to act! :)

Life is not a bowl of twinkies...(what ever that means)...

:star:

[cowboyeric8]

Please define trolling for me

Ok you are making things up and taking things out of context such as "destroying property" which TO did not do.

[Tennione72]

Thats the same kinds of things that their highschool coaches will say to them if they are overweight.

This is football camp guys ....... not playschool.


Amen Brother

[juck]

[quote]

You guys are actually praising this behavior? It's funny? I completely understand the sentiment behind his behavior, but unless this whole thing was staged specifically for the media's sake ...it was incredulous behavior.

What kind of message is TO sending ...

Even though the cmp rules did not prohibit the wearing of sports gear from another team, we're confiscating your personal property!

Watch how I deal with things that I don't agree with ...!

You've paid your camp registration fee, so you've lost your rights to freedom of expression; even if you are just observing us from off the field!

I thought even TO was bigger than that this! Perhaps, some of you may need to re-evaluate your ethics.

perhaps u should waste ur time on an eagles board.:cool:

[Phoenix-Talon]

Life is not a bowl of twinkies...(what ever that means)...


Football officianodo, and philospher too ...you're full of ...surprises!:rolleyes:

[lurkercowboy]

Dude, that was some good stuff. I'll repost Tanin's firsthand account:

"When T.O. was running the drill with us, he spotted a kid with a Philly Eagle hat and with an irritated look on his face said-"Man, why you wearin' that out here?!" he then yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up, throwing it on the field. But he did give the kid a new hat, the T.O. camp hat. After he was finished with us and wanted to move on into the little kid group, he kicked the eagle hat and said-"Kick that hat off the field!" I have to say it was pretty funny when he did that."

Good stuff. Something else I saw that the articles I read didn't mention: When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.


Here is Max Engle's account. He didn't mention the tears or anything.

"He gave instructions on running routes to the older group, and playfully interacted. At one point, he took an Eagles hat off a youngster's head and said, "I just converted you from an Eagles fan to a Cowboys fan."

He threw passes to giddy campers as parents took pictures, shot video with camcorders or recorded images with cellphone cameras.

He playfully chided one youngster who didn't come up with a catch, "I betcha, if that was a pizza, you woulda caught it!"

By 5:45, even the happiest and most content campers looked spent. They had been under the sun since 9 a.m.

A group gathered around T.O. for some words of inspiration.

"You can be anything you want to be," he said. "It starts at home listening to your parents. Do well in school. Do that, and you can buy as many things as you want."

Then, just before the huddle broke, he said, "If you had a good time say, 'T.O.'"

Less than a second later, the kids screamed, "T.O.""

[Phoenix-Talon]

[quote=Phoenix-Talon]

perhaps u should waste ur time on an eagles board.:cool:

I do. Maybe you should get out more.

[5Stars]

Football officianodo, and philospher too ...you're full of ...surprises!:rolleyes:

If you think I'm full of surprises...wait till you see the surprises that the Dallas Cowboys throw out there...! Everone will be surprised...

Even me....!


:lombardi:

:trophy:

:hammock:

Life is good...unless you are a Green Slime Bird, a RedStink, or a Midget! (not Snyder the midget...the NY a'ints Midgets...

:star:

[iceberg]

Whatever you guys are pointless.
I hope you guys enjoy making kids cry.

you're up next man.

[iceberg]

Ok you are making things up and taking things out of context such as "destroying property" which TO did not do.

isn't it amazing man - even though you tell people flat out what happened and why BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE - they'll still make it fit pre-defined views.

guess you're learning more about things than just football, huh? :cool:

[Phoenix-Talon]

[quote=5Stars]If you think I'm full of surprises...wait till you see the surprises that the Dallas Cowboys throw out there...! Everone will be surprised...Even me....!

That's surprising!;)

[Hostile]

Whatever you guys are pointless.
I hope you guys enjoy making kids cry.An eye witness to the account tells you he didn't destroy property and didn't make the kid cry. An article by a professional writer described it as a playful encounter after which kids were asked to scream if they enjoyed themselves.

Do you get it yet? If you don't, then yeah, you're just here to troll. Looking for a reason to point fingers.

In other words, yeah we're enjoying making you cry.

[heavyg]

Dude, that was some good stuff. I'll repost Tanin's firsthand account:

"When T.O. was running the drill with us, he spotted a kid with a Philly Eagle hat and with an irritated look on his face said-"Man, why you wearin' that out here?!" he then yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up, throwing it on the field. But he did give the kid a new hat, the T.O. camp hat. After he was finished with us and wanted to move on into the little kid group, he kicked the eagle hat and said-"Kick that hat off the field!" I have to say it was pretty funny when he did that."

Good stuff. Something else I saw that the articles I read didn't mention: When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.

Another reason for me not to like the arrogant jerk. I think it would have been funny as heck if that kids father would have heard it and whooped T.O.'s butt in front of God and everybody

[baj1dallas]

Well, we all knew he wasn't brought here to encourage overweight kids. I don't think he was right in saying it, but it was ribbing. But still not something you say to a chunky child, even though he absolutely would have caught the pizza. The last thing anyone should expect him to do is turn into Mister Politically Correct.

It's sucks if you're that kids and you go pay and go through all that and the ONLY thing TO says to you is "if that's a pizza you'd have caught it".

[Mansta54]

Thats the same kinds of things that their highschool coaches will say to them if they are overweight.

This is football camp guys ....... not playschool.




Bingo!!!! :hammer:

[Mansta54]

Dude, the kid was like 7 or 8 years old. In Highschool a kid built like him wouldn't be running patterns and trying to catch a ball, either.




Who cares, its football. At 7 or 8 is when you start learning to handle critical comments like that. Its football dude.. It was no big deal at all...

[ka0tik]

lol they probably say worse things!! in football. since when did this sport get so sensitive and ''delicate''? hahaha I see nuthing bad in wut he said to the kid, ... the kids' just very sentimental.:p:

[lurkercowboy]

An eye witness to the account tells you he didn't destroy property and didn't make the kid cry. An article by a professional writer described it as a playful encounter after which kids were asked to scream if they enjoyed themselves.

Do you get it yet? If you don't, then yeah, you're just here to troll. Looking for a reason to point fingers.

In other words, yeah we're enjoying making you cry.

Did the kid actually cry? I read Engles article you mentioned and he put the whole thing in a positive light. Did the kid break out in tears or not? It is not like the Dallas media to "cover up" a bad deed by TO, or any Cowboy.

[5Stars]

Did the kid actually cry? I read Engles article you mentioned and he put the whole thing in a positive light. Did the kid break out in tears or not? It is not like the Dallas media to "cover up" a bad deed by TO, or any Cowboy.

Well, the last thing I heard about this incident was that the parents of the kid had to get the little dude admitted into the psycho ward at a nearby hospital that evening...they said the little dude kept mumbling T.O...O.T., T.O....O.T...hat,,,hat...O.T.....TO hat....all the while dribbling spit down his chin....! :eek:

I hope the little tyke is alright!

:starspin

[The30YardSlant]

A fat joke, no matter how insensitive, is always funny as hell :lmao:

[iceberg]

A fat joke, no matter how insensitive, is always funny as hell :lmao:

funny, graney loved the fat joke also... : )

[5Stars]

funny, graney loved the fat joke also... : )

And you wonder why some people always argue with you? :cool:

[iceberg]

And you wonder why some people always argue with you? :cool:

heh - touche. : )

[The30YardSlant]

funny, graney loved the fat joke also... : )

Funny, iceberg still cant shake his monumental obsession with me. Or use proper grammar techniques, for that matter.

[iceberg]

Funny, iceberg still cant shake his monumental obsession with me. Or use proper grammar techniques, for that matter.

anyone else wanna correct this sentence?

I'll start off with the way the 2nd sentence starts, much less where it goes from there.

[5Stars]

heh - touche. : )

I just thought I would step on your big toe this morning...

Carry on...

:starspin

[iceberg]

I just thought I would step on your big toe this morning...

Carry on...

:starspin

'eh, brief grammar skirmish and i'm out. but you made a good point. : )

[REDVOLUTION]

Well, we all knew he wasn't brought here to encourage overweight kids. I don't think he was right in saying it, but it was ribbing. But still not something you say to a chunky child, even though he absolutely would have caught the pizza. The last thing anyone should expect him to do is turn into Mister Politically Correct.

He could turn chubby's life around in a positive way too!

[REDVOLUTION]

Thats the same kinds of things that their highschool coaches will say to them if they are overweight.

This is football camp guys ....... not playschool.

Case in point.

[The30YardSlant]

'eh, brief grammar skirmish and i'm out. but you made a good point. : )

I'll bet :rolleyes:

[5Stars]

He could turn chubby's life around in a positive way too!

Well, YoMick, why don't you turn that Cheerleader, in your sig, around in a positive way! :)

:star:

[The30YardSlant]

Well, YoMick, why don't you turn that Cheerleader, in your sig, around in a positive way! :)

:star:

:spanking:

:D

[5Stars]

:spanking:

:D

What? I just want to see her...uh, um, beautiful face! Yeah, her pretty face...really, I just want to see her face!

OK, beleive what you want, but, I just want to see her face, OK! :mad:

:star:

[Kevin]

It's funny. The guys that are 'Superstars' always tend to act like jerks. Does superstardom MAKE you a jerk or are jerks the only ones selfish enough to attention-whore their way to superstardom?

Example: I've met and talked with Daryl Johnston, Tim McDonald, Steve Tasker, Larry Brown, Zuriel Smith, Ray Crockett, Warrick Dunn and Brett Favre. ALL of those guys were completely cool, approachable and friendly. (I met Favre back in 94 though...he wasn't a 'Superstar' yet)

I've also met and talked with Michael Irvin, Deion Sanders, Andre Rison, Howie Long and Terrell Owens. They were all jerks.

Hmmm....

Howie Long is a jerk?

My whole world is crashing down around me. :(

[Tass]

Well, the last thing I heard about this incident was that the parents of the kid had to get the little dude admitted into the psycho ward at a nearby hospital that evening...they said the little dude kept mumbling T.O...O.T., T.O....O.T...hat,,,hat...O.T.....TO hat....all the while dribbling spit down his chin....! :eek:

I hope the little tyke is alright!

:starspin

There were two separate incidents. The first was a 12 year old kid with an Eagles hat. TO was clowning around, the kid was smiling and got a free TO hat out of it.

The second incident was with a chunky 7 year old kid. He missed a pass and TO made the pizza comment. The 7 year old kid was the one crying.

[TX Cowboy]

Dude, that was some good stuff. I'll repost Tanin's firsthand account:

"When T.O. was running the drill with us, he spotted a kid with a Philly Eagle hat and with an irritated look on his face said-"Man, why you wearin' that out here?!" he then yanked the hat off his head and crumpled it up, throwing it on the field. But he did give the kid a new hat, the T.O. camp hat. After he was finished with us and wanted to move on into the little kid group, he kicked the eagle hat and said-"Kick that hat off the field!" I have to say it was pretty funny when he did that."

He should have takin a dump in the E-Girls hat and sent it to Mcnabb as
to what he thought about him, and that crap organization he plays for

Good stuff. Something else I saw that the articles I read didn't mention: When TO was throwing passes to the younger kids, the kid he chastised by saying "I bet if that was a pizza you would have caught it!" was a pudgy kid who was in tears after Owens said that to him. Right after the comment Rosenhaus, fanny kisser that he is, said "Ha Ha! Good one, buddy!" What a dink.

While it may not be funny to many of you, but I think T.O. was joking, the
problem is thin skinned kids..who can't take a friendly ribbing, if the kid was
a lil more smarter..He would have commented back to T.O. bout what took
place in Philthy

[Tanin T.]

lol wow this thread just keeps on going...like the energizer bunny..
*Rubs chin, looking about, thinking*

[Star Struck]

There were two separate incidents. The first was a 12 year old kid with an Eagles hat. TO was clowning around, the kid was smiling and got a free TO hat out of it.

The second incident was with a chunky 7 year old kid. He missed a pass and TO made the pizza comment. The 7 year old kid was the one crying.

The issue with the hat doesn't seem like a big deal. Just joking around. The deal with the other kid is a little deeper. Doesn't sound like TO meant many people to hear him, so that's what he really felt. Great self-esteem builder for the kid... Maybe he'll take that comment and build on it by eating better and having a long, healthy life.