Roethlisberger injured in accident - No helmet.

[sacase]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#

PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured in a motorcycle accident, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review said.

According to the Tribune-Review's Web site, the accident happened Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge.

Roethlisberger was not wearing a helmet, according to the paper.

According to the Tribune-Review, police have closed down the bridge, Second Avenue and the Armstrong Tunnels

[Bob Sacamano]

KWII all over again, but unlike that, I hope Ben gets better

[Doomsday101]

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/s_457685.html

I hope he is alright. This is why teams do not want to see their players doing these things. Personally I think a team has the right to demand things like no motorcycle after all they are investing a lot of money into that player

[superpunk]

I hope he is alright. This is why teams do not want to see their players doing these things. Personally I think a team has the right to demand things like no motorcycle after all they are investing a lot of money into that player

or at least a freaking helmet. I know states like PA and FL allow no helmets, but if you dont wear one - you're a moron, plain and simple. I wonder how bad he's hurt?

[Everlastingxxx]

Why people get on murdercycles without any kindof safety equipment is a mystery to me. Hope Ben is ok tho.

[TheHustler]

Idiot.

[Hostile]

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/s_457685.htmlThe link isn't working for me.

[trickblue]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/cowboyszone/billboards/trauma.jpg

[Waffle]

The link isn't working for me.

It took 3 minutes to load, but there are ZERO details other than the intersection it happened, the time (about 11:30 local time) and the fact he wasn't wearing a helmet. Didn't say how serious the injury was or anything.

[Vintage]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#

[RCowboyFan]

I think last year, he was asked about wearing a helmet and not riding a bike so that he doesn't risk injury and jeopardize the franchise. He said he would do whatever he wants in his own time. Thats where I don't like Ben. He seems somewhat immature in both his injury statements and some of this stuff like riding a bike.

If this injury is true that is.

[Everlastingxxx]

from pitt message board


KDKA news is reporting that he was not wearing a helmet and he is bleeding from the head. He flew over his handle bars, hit the windshield of the vehicle and rolled over the top of the vehicle.

[PacoReloaded]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#

PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured in a motorcycle accident, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review said.

According to the Tribune-Review's Web site, the accident happened Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge.

Roethlisberger was not wearing a helmet, according to the paper.

According to the Tribune-Review, police have closed down the bridge, Second Avenue and the Armstrong TunnelsWhat a moron.

[Waffle]

THE ARTICLE
Pittsburgh Tribune Review
Monday, June 12, 2006

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured in a motorcycle accident this morning on Second Avenue near the 10th Street bridge, police said.
The accident happened shortly before 11:25 a.m. He was not wearing a helmet. Police have closed down the bridge, Second Avenue and the Armstrong Tunnels.

[SA_Gunslinger]

dude...what a moron.

didn't he specifically say after the kellen winslow accident that he still wouldn't wear a helmet?

karma, man....karma.

[burmafrd]

Yeah- sounds like he has already been taken to the hospital. JUST PLAIN STUPID. Not wearing a helmet - just plain dumb.

[burmafrd]

latest word was that he was conscious but groggy afterwards. BLeeding from head but conscious. Probably will be ok - but still dumb.

[RCowboyFan]

dude...what a moron.

didn't he specifically say after the kellen winslow accident that he still wouldn't wear a helmet?

karma, man....karma.

He was asked about that specifically, last year, after Kellen Winslow accident. He said he would do what he wanted in the off-season or something to that effect.

[Bob Sacamano]

from pitt message board


KDKA news is reporting that he was not wearing a helmet and he is bleeding from the head. He flew over his handle bars, hit the windshield of the vehicle and rolled over the top of the vehicle.

in summary, he'll live, he killed some brain cells, but he'll survive

[Da Hammer]

dude...what a moron.

didn't he specifically say after the kellen winslow accident that he still wouldn't wear a helmet?

karma, man....karma.
when i heard what happened i remembered the piece where he said he still wouldn't where a helmet. I'm sorry but Big Ben is a Freaking Idiot. Hope is all right but he is a freaking IDIOT!!! I believe he was in a minor accident last year but People just never learn

[Bob Sacamano]

sounds like Ben didn't need to be killing anymore braincells :)

[Everlastingxxx]

in summary, he'll live, he killed some brain cells, but he'll survive

Yea, but head injuries like this are very dangerous. We dont know how bad he is right now, so it think most here should watch the idiot comments.

[AsthmaField]

Man, you know Pitt fans are about to have 12 kinds of coniptions.

Not wearing a helment just isn't smart... particularly in heavy traffic in a big city. Even if you know what you're doing (unlike KWII), there are still too many idiots out there that can kill you.

He wears a helment on the football field and refuses to do so going 70 mph on asphalt. Hmmmmmmm....

[trickblue]

Roethlisberger to keep riding motorcycle http://m.2mdn.net/viewad/817-grey.gif (http://ad.doubleclick.net/click;h=v6%7C3402%7C0%7C0%7C%2a%7Cc;44306;0-0;0;10732674;238-150%7C30;0%7C0%7C0;u=;%7Esscs=%3f)

NFL.com wire reports PITTSBURGH (May 6, 2005) -- Despite Kellen Winslow (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/493125) 's accident and his own coach's admonition, Big Ben isn't hopping off his big bike just yet.

Ben Roethlisberger (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/493043) was lectured by Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/PIT) coach Bill Cowher on the dangers of riding a motorcycle without a helmet -- as Roethlisberger has been spotted doing recently -- but the quarterback isn't ready to get off his $20,000 cycle.

"He talked about being a risk taker and I'm not really a risk taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said as the Steelers opened their minicamp. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

Asked why he doesn't wear a helmet -- something he wouldn't think about doing on a football field -- Roethlisberger pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended two years ago.

"Obviously Pennsylvania doesn't think people need to (wear a helmet)," he said. "There's a law you've got to wear it in football."

Steelers linebacker Joey Porter (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133392) was surprised to hear the NFL offensive rookie of the year is taking such risks so soon after Winslow's accident. The Browns tight end, drafted five spots ahead of Roethlisberger last year, was injured May 1 when he flew off a newly purchased motorcycle (http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/8443942) after running into a parking lot curb.

"Some guys are real good on motorcycles and know what they're doing, but accidents happen," Porter said. "I can't knock the guy for doing it, but it's probably not the wisest thing to do. I don't own a bike because I don't trust them."

Porter occasionally gets on a Jet Ski, but he said that's different from steering a motorcycle through heavy traffic. Roethlisberger acknowledged many drivers become distracted when they see him riding, shouting or waving at him.

"If I fall off a Jet Ski, I hit the water, and I like my odds," Porter said. "I'm going to get wet. What I say about motorcycles is that concrete is undefeated."

Of course, Roethlisberger was, too, as a rookie, going 13-0 during the Steelers' team-record 15-1 regular season before losing to New England in the AFC championship game.

The Steelers are understandably cautious about combining a first-round draft choice and a high-speed vehicle. Gabe Rivera, the defensive lineman they chose instead of quarterback Dan Marino in the 1983 draft, was paralyzed after wrecking his sports car midway through his rookie season and hasn't walked since.

Many NFL contracts prohibit engaging in dangerous activities, but Roethlisberger's deal apparently doesn't specifically ban motorcycle riding.

Cowher didn't criticize Roethlisberger's riding, but is visibly uneasy with it.

"I certainly don't condone that," Cowher said. "It (playing pro football) is a very small time in your life and you've got to be very careful -- you can see it documented with Kellen Winslow in Cleveland. There are choices and consequences ... not just in riding motorcycles, but where you go and who you associate with. You have control over them but once you make your decision, they control you."
Meanwhile, all players reported to the minicamp, the formal start to the final month of the Steelers' offseason workouts. Most players will remain in town through mid-June for "coaching sessions," daily workouts that technically are voluntary but usually are fully attended.

[Hostile]

Bledsoe doesn't wear a helmet either folks. We could very well be talking about our QB.

[Da Hammer]

Hopefully he'll learn from this but who knows

[superpunk]

Bledsoe doesn't wear a helmet either folks. We could very well be talking about our QB.

Eh?

Didn't even know he rode.

That's idiotic, I don't care what colors you play for.

[Bob Sacamano]

Joey Porter offering words of wisdom? who woulda thunk it?

[RCowboyFan]

Good find Hos on that article. Thats exactly what I was talking about Ben ignoring the warnings last year.

[PrimeTime22]

That's horrible to hear, I hope he can recover. I don't understand why anyone would ride without a helmet.

[SupermanXx]

Yea, but head injuries like this are very dangerous. We dont know how bad he is right now, so it think most here should watch the idiot comments.

Ben is a freaking IDIOT!

[WoodysGirl]

Early indications are injuries not life-threatening

ESPN.com news services


PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=pit) star Ben Roethlisberger (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6770), who last season became the youngest quarterback in NFL history to lead his team to a Super Bowl title, was injured Monday morning in a motorcycle accident and has been transported to a local hospital with head injuries of unspecified severity.

"He was alert and conscious," said Ernie Roman, shift commander for the Allegheny County emergency service, told The Associated Press.

Roethlisberger, the team's first-round choice in the 2004 draft, was transported to the trauma unit of nearby Mercy Hospital, a source confirmed for ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli, but his condition is unknown.

Witnesses told authorities that Roethlisberger's motorcycle collided with a car near a downtown intersection and that Roethlisberger's head hit the windshield and was bleeding. Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding.

Steelers officials have confirmed the accident, which occurred on Second Avenue near the intersection of 10th Street in Pittsburgh, around 11:30 a.m. The route is one often taken in traveling to the Steelers' facility in the Southside section of the city.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. In previous interviews, Roethlisberger has said that he does not like wearing a helmet while wearing a motorcycle.

In the wake of a motorcycle accident sustained by Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow last spring, Roethlisberger spoke about his own fixation with motorcycles, and his penchant for riding without a helmet. He was admonished by former Steelers quarterback and Hall of Fame member Terry Bradshaw for potentially jeopardizing his career.

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports that early indications are the injuries are not life-threatening.

One of his agents, Ryan Tollner, is in route to Pittsburgh for what was supposed to be a pre-planned trip and will arrive later Monday.

One witness told KDKA television that Roethlisberger was conscious but appeared disoriented before he was taken from the scene to Mercy Hospital.

A Steelers spokesman is at the hospital and confirmed Roethlisberger is being treated there, but wouldn't provide additional details.

John Clayton and Len Pasquarelli contributed to this story. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

[Da Hammer]

Bledsoe doesn't wear a helmet either folks. We could very well be talking about our QB.
Didn't know he even rode in the first place. Well he's an idiot too because for many motorcycle riders its not IF you'll be in a accident but its WHEN.

I had a teacher a couple years back who was going home from school on his bike and for some reason he lost control and crashed into a pole that sent him flying. He broke one arm, hurt a leg, and had head injuries that if he hadn't worn a helmet he would have died. He still rides but always with a helmet and tries to spread the word to his HS students that they should never ride without a helmet

[Bob Sacamano]

thank God that Ben has a humongous head

[Everlastingxxx]

Ben is a freaking IDIOT!

Yea, but playing quarterback in the NFL isnt exactly safe either.

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't understand why anyone would ride without a helmet.

it's like asking why people drive drunk, people, esp. pro athletes feel they're invincible, that it won't happen to them, but guess what...it does

[Hostile]

I ride, and often without a helmet.

It's kind of an image thing and yeah I know it's stupid. It's just what riders do. I'm not excusing it, because it isn't smart. I've had crashes where the helmet saved my life and I know it did. One wreck I had on a dirt bike when I was 16, the bike landed on my head and the helmet dented the gas tank in about 2 inches. If that had been my bare head it would have crushed my skull.

[Angus]

http://p211.ezboard.com/fmcmillenandwifemessageboardfrm1.showMessage?topic ID=11071.topic

Big Ben in Motorcycle Accident...no helmet...injured Details coming in...not the hamster...not a joke.

From the PPG:

Quote:Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has been involved in a traffic accident on Second Avenue near the Armstrong Tunnels and the 10th Street Bridge.



Link and pic from WTAE


Witnesses say he hit windshield of sedan head first, very groggy, knew his name was Ben.

Quote:Roethlisberger was taken to Mercy Hospital

Edited by: pastrami at: 6/12/06 11:10 am

[Bob Sacamano]

I dare someone to call Hos an idiot hehe

[Doomsday101]

it's like asking why people drive drunk, people, esp. pro athletes feel they're invincible, that it won't happen to them, but guess what...it does

I agree. Cower is right your life in the NFL is a short period of time and then it is over, why guys take stupid risk during this point in their live is beyond me.

[Doomsday]

I thought most pro athletes had clasues in their contracts preventing them from riding motorcycles, skiing etc.... Hopefully he is ok, he is a good guy hate to see something happen to him.

[Cowchips]

Didn't know he even rode in the first place. Well he's an idiot too because for many motorcycle riders its not IF you'll be in a accident but its WHEN.

I had a teacher a couple years back who was going home from school on his bike and for some reason he lost control and crashed into a pole that sent him flying. He broke one arm, hurt a leg, and had head injuries that if he hadn't worn a helmet he would have died. He still rides but always with a helmet and tries to spread the word to his HS students that they should never ride without a helmet

I had a very good friend killed on a motorcycle. You have to be a moron to ride a motorcycle to begin with. Taking it one step further and not wanting to use a helmet while exposing the other 90% of your body doesn't seem like a stretch to me. You're already demonstrating limited common sense when you hop on one to begin with.

[Social D]

Its not like he was out doing tricks like KW was. It was an accident. How many people here have a motorcycle and dont wear a helmet?

[Angus]

There is a picture of the accident scene at http://p211.ezboard.com/fmcmillenandwifemessageboardfrm1.showMessage?topic ID=11071.topic

This from a Steelers board.

[superpunk]

I ride, and often without a helmet.

It's kind of an image thing and yeah I know it's stupid. It's just what riders do. I'm not excusing it, because it isn't smart. I've had crashes where the helmet saved my life and I know it did. One wreck I had on a dirt bike when I was 16, the bike landed on my head and the helmet dented the gas tank in about 2 inches. If that had been my bare head it would have crushed my skull.

Well, you know it's moronic.

I think it's inexcusable to put your life at such a risk.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I dare someone to call Hos an idiot hehe


Hos is an idiot for riding without a helmet.

:scram:

[Big Dakota]

People on a Steerlers board are saying the woman that hit him is at fault. Supposedly she drove right into him.

[Waffle]

Just about every time my five-year old sees someone riding a motorcycle without a helmet, he points it out and tells me that "they aren't being safe."

Enough said.

[chinch]

I ride, and often without a helmet.

It's kind of an image thing and yeah I know it's stupid. It's just what riders do. I'm not excusing it, because it isn't smart. I've had crashes where the helmet saved my life and I know it did. One wreck I had on a dirt bike when I was 16, the bike landed on my head and the helmet dented the gas tank in about 2 inches. If that had been my bare head it would have crushed my skull.
they say the mind is a terrible thing to waste... but some dope like Ben should consider even safely driving road debris or a pebble could cause loss of vision (and his contract and future in the NFL).

oh well, just another dumb NFL player... not surprising.

[Bob Sacamano]

People on a Steerlers board are saying the woman that hit him is at fault. Supposedly she drove right into him.

you think Steeler fans are going to admit the culpability of a Steeler? I'd wait to hear the police report

[Bob Sacamano]

Hos is an idiot for riding without a helmet.

:scram:

you brave man

[dargonking999]

People on a Steerlers board are saying the woman that hit him is at fault. Supposedly she drove right into him.


heh i bet it was a redskins fan, someone told them that Big Ben thought he was better than Brunell, you know how skin fans get :D:D:D


BTW j/k, no flame needed. :D:D:D

[skinsscalper]

I don't know if it'sbeen posted, but ESPN reports that the injuries are not life threatening.

SS

[Big Dakota]

Roethlisberger hurt in motorcycle crash
Monday, June 12, 2006

By Michael A. Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured when his motorcycle was involved in a crash on the 10th Street Bridge today.

Roethlisberger was injured shortly after 11:30 a.m. at the Second Avenue side of the bridge near the Armstrong Tunnel.

Steelers' spokesman David Lockett confirmed Roethlisberger was involved and is being treated at Mercy Hospital.

An eyewitness said she saw a motorcycle headed outbound on Second Avenue as a car was coming inbound. The car made a left turn toward the bridge in front of the cyclist. The motorcycle hit the car and the operator flew into the windshield and then hit the ground.

The witness said she went to the aid of the motorcyclist and asked his name. He said it was "Ben" and tried to get up, but she told him to stay still.

The victim was bleeding heavily from a head injury.

[Hostile]

I dare someone to call Hos an idiot heheThey can, and on this subject they would be right. I have a wife and 2 kids.

I can't explain it. There's something about the freedom of the wind in your hair.

[Bob Sacamano]

Well, you know it's moronic.

I think it's inexcusable to put your life at such a risk.

his precious, precious life

and yes, I'm searching for brown points here *COUGH* Hos *COUGH* HINT!

[AbeBeta]

People on a Steerlers board are saying the woman that hit him is at fault. Supposedly she drove right into him.

At fault for the accident or not, he's a) an idiot for not wearing a helmet and b) is likely violating the terms of his contract by riding in the first place.

Oh yeah? Is it really relevant that it was a woman driving?

[Bob Sacamano]

There's something about the freedom of the wind in your hair.

you're so vain :p:

[RCowboyFan]

I ride, and often without a helmet.

It's kind of an image thing and yeah I know it's stupid. It's just what riders do. I'm not excusing it, because it isn't smart. I've had crashes where the helmet saved my life and I know it did. One wreck I had on a dirt bike when I was 16, the bike landed on my head and the helmet dented the gas tank in about 2 inches. If that had been my bare head it would have crushed my skull.

Well, I have to say, I did too without helmet most of the time. Not in US though. I dont think I would do that in US, too much of risk, due to the speed involved.

[Waffle]

Hos is an idiot for riding without a helmet.

:scram:

Is that the new Drew Henson emocion, or is it based on Quincy Carter? :p:

[Da Hammer]

At fault for the accident or not, he's a) an idiot for not wearing a helmet and b) is likely violating the terms of his contract by riding in the first place.
yeah i completely agree

[Wimbo]

They can, and on this subject they would be right. I have a wife and 2 kids.

I can't explain it. There's something about the freedom of the wind in your hair.


:loser:

[BrAinPaiNt]

They can, and on this subject they would be right. I have a wife and 2 kids.

I can't explain it. There's something about the freedom of the wind in your hair.


You have to have long hair for that to count.

Unless you are talking about bushy eyebrows and hair growing out of your ears.:p:

On a serious note, I learned long ago that motorcycles were not for me.

I was always wrecking as a youngster.

Now it would have to be a motorcyle with a side care before I would even consider getting one.:laugh1:

[chinch]

i know a family friend - wife and 2 young kids - can't move without a weelchair for the past 5 years since he broke his back on a motorcycle and is paralyzed from the chest down (of course everyone alwys told him to stop riding and now he has). :(

[Hostile]

Well, you know it's moronic.

I think it's inexcusable to put your life at such a risk.My wife agrees with you, and in truth I do too. When I am going to go for a ride in the mountains and she's not around, I'll leave the helmet. It's wrong, and I know it is. I still do it.

No matter how good a rider you are, you have no idea how good the driver who hits you might be. I'm a damn good rider, but I can't control the other vehicles.

[Big Dakota]

At fault for the accident or not, he's a) an idiot for not wearing a helmet and b) is likely violating the terms of his contract by riding in the first place.

Oh yeah? Is it really relevant that it was a woman driving?

I could give a crap either way. Hows that?

[Bob Sacamano]

I can't control the other vehicles.

I learn something new everyday, but seriously too, wear a helmet, who's going to bash HH and bring up memories of 30 yard slants if you're gone?

[UDcowboysfan]

Reports say that the driver of the car that hit Ben got out of the car wearing a bengals sweatshirt, and reportdly said "Paybacks a ***** man".

[Bob Sacamano]

Reports say that the driver of the car that hit Ben got out of the car wearing a bengals sweatshirt, and reportdly said "Paybacks a ***** man".

:lmao2: :lmao:

[The Realist]

i know a family friend - wife and 2 young kids - can't move without a weelchair for the past 5 years since he broke his back on a motorcycle and is paralyzed from the chest down (of course everyone alwys told him to stop riding and now he has). :(


Wind in your hair for paralyzed, mamed, or dead.

Sounds like a bad trade to me.

Image?

I'd imagine it would be closed casket.

[skinsscalper]

Wife and I have been considering a bike for a couple of years, now. The more I hear about stuff like this the more I'm not so inclined. Motorcycle accidents seem to be on an average way more frequent than your typical auto accident and the injuries much more severe (helmet or not). They are hard to see, by drivers, and riders tend to take more risks weaving in and out of traffic. I live in a small town, so the driving isn't as hectic, but no way would I ride in a city like Phoenix or L.A. People drive like ***holes in large cities and motorcycle is just a speed bump to some of those jerks (especially in Phoenix).

SS

[Vintage]

I learn something new everyday, but seriously too, stop man, who's going to bash HH and bring up memories of 30 yard slants if you're gone?

As soon as I get home, I am going to launch up a quick game of Madden and run a 30 yard slant with Owens.

Romo will be my QB, since he is our future QB.

And I will have Barber as my starter, since Jones always gets injured.

I will trade Newman for Hall.

And Roy for Troy P.

I think that covers all the basics.

[Da Hammer]

Reports say that the driver of the car that hit Ben got out of the car wearing a bengals sweatshirt, and reportdly said "Paybacks a ***** man".
:lmao2: :lmao2: :laugh1: that was hilarious

[Bob Sacamano]

As soon as I get home, I am going to launch up a quick game of Madden and run a 30 yard slant with Owens.

Romo will be my QB, since he is our future QB.

And I will have Barber as my starter, since Jones always gets injured.

I will trade Newman for Hall.

And Roy for Troy P.

I think that covers all the basics.

you forgot downgrade Roy's tackling from a 98 to a 75, and coverage ability to 2

[UDcowboysfan]

:lmao2: :lmao2: :laugh1: that was hilarious

Thats the first thing that came to mind of every person that lives in ohio, trust me:laugh2:

[Hostile]

Reports say that the driver of the car that hit Ben got out of the car wearing a bengals sweatshirt, and reportdly said "Paybacks a ***** man".:lmao:

Nice.

[Wimbo]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html
UPDATED: 12:45 pm EDT June 12, 2006

The witness said she saw the accident and went over to help but did not recognize Roethlisberger. When she asked him what his name was, she said he replied, "Ben."

The woman added that Roethlisberger asked her a series of questions, including where he was and what state he was in. He attempted to stand up but the woman said she encouraged him not to move until paramedics arrived.

[Hostile]

Wind in your hair for paralyzed, mamed, or dead.

Sounds like a bad trade to me.

Image?

I'd imagine it would be closed casket.It absolutely is a bad trade.

[Derinyar]

Wife and I have been considering a bike for a couple of years, now. The more I hear about stuff like this the more I'm not so inclined. Motorcycle accidents seem to be on an average way more frequent than your typical auto accident and the injuries much more severe (helmet or not). They are hard to see, by drivers, and riders tend to take more risks weaving in and out of traffic. I live in a small town, so the driving isn't as hectic, but no way would I ride in a city like Phoenix or L.A. People drive like ***holes in large cities and motorcycle is just a speed bump to some of those jerks (especially in Phoenix).

SS
I suspect its not the number of bike accidents that gets attention, but the fact that any bike accident can end up being a serious one. Something that in a car doesn't do much damage can end up doing serious damage to the person on a bike.

Its not something I would do, but know some people love the things. But I just can't understand the people who ride them with little clothing and no helmet on. A busted skull and a serious case of road rash sounds like a horrible way to spend a month or two.

[dmq]

my prayers are with him.

[AbeBeta]

anyone want to reflect on how selfish Ben is for riding a motorcycle in the first place? He's got a ton of other players depending on him and a contract that says he can't ride (it is standard). We'd say that a player who used drugs and got suspended was selfish -- Seems like Ben falls in that same group.

[chinch]

I suspect its not the number of bike accidents that gets attention, but the fact that any bike accident can end up being a serious one. Something that in a car doesn't do much damage can end up doing serious damage to the person on a bike.

Its not something I would do, but know some people love the things. But I just can't understand the people who ride them with little clothing and no helmet on. A busted skull and a serious case of road rash sounds like a horrible way to spend a month or two.
Yup. i sent this thread to a friend who's a steelers fan (also bought a bike a few years ago against better judgement).

i was in an auto accident in Jan... some young driver in the rain lost control of his car and crashed into me then both hit the guard rail... both totalled thankfully no injuries.

had i been on a bike i wouldn't be posting (here or anywhere).

[5Stars]

"The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. In previous interviews, Roethlisberger has said that he does not like wearing a helmet while wearing a motorcycle." :eek:

I hate when that happens! I tried to wear a motorcycle once, and I could not fit the helmet on, so I had to leave the helmet home. But, man, wearing a motorcycle is some hard stuff! :cool:

I don't wear a helmet either when I ride....

I wish Ben a speedy recovery...

:star:

[dback]

I myself do not ride motorcycles (because I do not own one), but I have a lot of friends that do. They always tell me that as a bike driver, you have to drive 10 times more defensively than driving a car. They say that it is common to move out of the way of cars that may side swipe you or rear end you. It is harder to see some motorcycles in your blind spot because when you check it you are used to seeing a wide car instead of a narrow bike. I see no other choice than using a helmet.

Hey, at least we have a new nickname for Ben:

Ben "Busey" Roethlisberger

[Wimbo]

Pitts news is saying it wasn't his Harley... more of a crotch rocket.

[gbrittain]

anyone want to reflect on how selfish Ben is for riding a motorcycle in the first place? He's got a ton of other players depending on him and a contract that says he can't ride (it is standard). We'd say that a player who used drugs and got suspended was selfish -- Seems like Ben falls in that same group.

I would agree that it is selfhish and stupid of Big Ben. Personally though, I would not put riding a helmet in the same category as doing drugs.

I may not have a multi million dollar contract with the fate of a team riding on my shoulders, but more importantly I have a wife and kids to support. I have done and most everyone has at some point done something really stupid that could be extremely dangerous and selfish, but I would not put myself in the same category as a drug user.

I am agreeing with you, but I think what Big Ben did belongs in a different category as drug use and/or criminal activity.

[RCowboyFan]

Wife and I have been considering a bike for a couple of years, now. The more I hear about stuff like this the more I'm not so inclined. Motorcycle accidents seem to be on an average way more frequent than your typical auto accident and the injuries much more severe (helmet or not). They are hard to see, by drivers, and riders tend to take more risks weaving in and out of traffic. I live in a small town, so the driving isn't as hectic, but no way would I ride in a city like Phoenix or L.A. People drive like ***holes in large cities and motorcycle is just a speed bump to some of those jerks (especially in Phoenix).

SS

If you live in a small town, it might not be risky, if you are only going to do some recreational riding. The thing that is risky about bikes are, its not just the other vehicles, but any laspses of concentration can be deadly. I heard more about people just sliding or just going out of control, then one that were in collision.

And thing about Helmets is, I have known people who got serious injuries and even death, because they were wearing a helmet too. Its like the Seat belt thing. It saved my life 2-3 times now for sure. Once when I was going on border of Texarkhana, when the idiot highway pavers, decided to leave like 2-3 inches high shoulder, and I flipped my car at 75 MPH, since my car tire slipped on the shoulder, lost control, tumbled into median and into opposite traffic and landed on sideway finally. I missed by probably few yards, a big semi slamming into my tumbling car. All I had was car smashed but only a scar on my head and nothing else.

But on the same token I read/had know people who got into serious injuries because their seatbelt cut into them or were not able to move around due to seatbelt, which caused more injuries.

Anyway, I guess, what I am saying is, you just never know. I guess maybe thats how Ben viewed it in a way. Maybe he thought if he is going to get into a accident he will, not much use worrying about.

[5Stars]

Personally though, I would not put riding a helmet in the same category as doing drugs.

Well, if you are going to try to ride a helmet, you must be on some drugs! :)

:star:

[BrAinPaiNt]

Well, if you are going to try to ride a helmet, you must be on some drugs! :)

:star:


:lmao2: :lmao: :laugh1:

[Wimbo]

Police Investigator just said on WTAE-TV that they are investigating with a homocide team, as is standard for accidents like this with "critical injuries".

[trickblue]

A former girlfriend of mine said in the ER they call helmets "Brain Crates"...

If the accident is serious, the skull is likely cracked inside the hemet anyway and all it does is hold it together until it is removed and spills out...

[superpunk]

No...it's cool trick....

I didn't want lunch anyways.

[Jarv]

They can, and on this subject they would be right. I have a wife and 2 kids.

I can't explain it. There's something about the freedom of the wind in your hair.
Live free or die, state motto in NH.

Did a 150 mile ride yesterday will Rolling Thunder (look them up, they support Military veterans groups (http://www.rollingthunder1.com/st-chapters.htm)). From Stuart air base Newburgh NY police escorted ride through the grounds of West Point and back. We all wore helmets, required in NY

No helmet law in CT and I for the most part, don't wear one...Put me on your idiot list.

NY, Mass require them, so when I leave CT I need to bring one.

Freedom is a funny thing. Does anyone here ride a bicycle and not wear a helmet ? Like Hos said, the feeling of the wind in your hair is hard to describe.

Like Ben said, riding in groups is safer. I ride with a group of 8-10 folks generally. 10 straight pipe Hogs make a lot of noise, people notice you which makes for a safer riding experience.

LOUD PIPES SAVES LIVES !

[32BellyOption]

Here's the details as they've been reported on a Pittsburgh TV station:

1. He hit the car 's right front, his head then hit the upper part of the windshield, was thrown across the hood and then his head hit the pavement.

2. He tried to stand up and a eyewitness told him to get back down and which time he collapsed to the ground. He was bleedly severely from the head and face. He did not know his name or what town he was in.

3. The front of the motorcycle was completely smashed in as was the right front fender and wheel well of the car. There were two places in the windshield that were smashed.

4. There appeared to be about a 2 foot skid mark on the pavement from the bike. Big Ben had the right away and the car pulled in front of him. Where it happened was under an overpass and going from sunlight to darkness may have made vision a problem.

5. KDKA News interviewed a doctor who said just becasue Big Ben was awake and talking did NOT preclude serious injury. He said due to the svere angle with which his head hit the windshield a serious neck injury would be a concern as well as blod clots in the brain.

It will probably be a couple hours before any news on his condition is reported. Tests are being run and an update will be given when available.

[Da Hammer]

Well, if you are going to try to ride a helmet, you must be on some drugs! :)

:star:
:lmao2: :laugh1:

[burmafrd]

All depends on the angle and velocity of the impact. The helmet might protect the skull, but the the neck is broken. And so on. CLEARLY it is so much safer to wear a helmet. In this case it appears he would have had some bumps and bruises and nothing else IF he had been wearing a helmet.
from everything I have heard about him, not wearing a helmet is typical.

[RCowboyFan]

A former girlfriend of mine said in the ER they call helmets "Brain Crates"...

If the accident is serious, the skull is likely cracked inside the hemet anyway and all it does is hold it together until it is removed and spills out...

I heard that before. Thats the reason I posted that sometimes they do harm than good ( I forget the specific instance, but when i was kid/teenager, I remember an accident, which killed the rider, because he had helmet, cause he got stuck between something, because of helmet he had on, instead of slipping through or something like that). But those are very rare cases. Just like sometimes Seatbelts do harm than good.

[TheKey]

This doesn't sound good, I would hate to see that talent go to waste.

[Eddie]

Full faced helmets are extremely uncomfortable, and in hot, humid weather ... difficult to breath in.

Anything less than a full face helmet is close to useless.

I think the best way to encourage riding with full helmets is for manufacturers to make them more comfortable. Even a football helmet is more comfy than a full face.

But the bottom line is the full helmet is designed to withstand one serious blow. Comfort takes a backseat. Unfortunately, because of this issue, many people refrain from wearing a full helmet.

I've been riding for over 10 years ... and it still kills me to see kids riding sports bikes in a t-shirt and shorts.

Anyway, good luck to Ben. But the only thing I could say is, he should have known better.

[SupermanXx]

Its not like he was out doing tricks like KW was. It was an accident. How many people here have a motorcycle and dont wear a helmet?

oh my GOSH!

so you're sitting there comparing whose motorcyle accident was less idiotic?

genius, you get on a bike without a helmet, and you're an idiot. no other way to put it.

I was driving home from work just a few days ago. I was in the left lane, and there had been a dude on a bike in the right lane and we'd been driving near each other for a few minutes. He wasn't wearing a helmet or any jacket or other gear. Coming up on a green lit intersection, I looked to my left for a sec, heard a loud "POP", turned around, saw the dude's bike in pieces on the ground, and the guy laying motionless with his head against the curb

[AbeBeta]

I would agree that it is selfhish and stupid of Big Ben. Personally though, I would not put riding a helmet in the same category as doing drugs.

I may not have a multi million dollar contract with the fate of a team riding on my shoulders, but more importantly I have a wife and kids to support. I have done and most everyone has at some point done something really stupid that could be extremely dangerous and selfish, but I would not put myself in the same category as a drug user.

I am agreeing with you, but I think what Big Ben did belongs in a different category as drug use and/or criminal activity.

What if it was alcohol or other substance (e.g., andro) that are LEGAL?

Someone who was an alcoholic and tested positive for alcohol or a body building supplement that the league bans several times would get the same suspension as a cocaine user? Same outcome. The legal/not legal distinction doesn't concern me.

[RCowboyFan]

Like Hos said, the feeling of the wind in your hair is hard to describe.


I agree, its hard to describe it, unless you have ridden a bike before. Its not even the same as wearing even a simple baseball cap. Heck even if you don't have hair, the breeze on bare skull is still different than one when wearing a Helmet ;)

[Wimbo]

Mercy Hospital Press Conference:

He is in serious but stable condition.
Having surgery now.
He is coherent.
no further comment

[32BellyOption]

Possible jaw injury as well.

[RCowboyFan]

Mercy Hospital Press Conference:

He is in serious but stable condition.
Having surgery now.
He is coherent.
no further comment

Wow, doesn't seem like minor one then. I though reading the initial reports, thought maybe it was 1-2 week injury at best. If it is serious condition, then I would think it might be more of few weeks recovery period, if the surgery is to skull etc.

[AbeBeta]

Wow, doesn't seem like minor one then. I though reading the initial reports, thought maybe it was 1-2 week injury at best. If it is serious condition, then I would think it might be more of few weeks recovery period, if the surgery is to skull etc.

Just being in "surgery" isn't necessarily a bad thing. Could be the jaw getting wired shut -- or even more likely plastic surgery on the gashes.

[VACowboy]

I had a very good friend killed on a motorcycle. You have to be a moron to ride a motorcycle to begin with. Taking it one step further and not wanting to use a helmet while exposing the other 90% of your body doesn't seem like a stretch to me. You're already demonstrating limited common sense when you hop on one to begin with.

I couldn't agree more. I'm paralyzed from the neck down because of an accident in '85. (I was 16.) A guy pulled out in front of me. I almost died as it was. Without a helmet my head woulda been smashed to pulp. Riding a motorcycle takes idiocy, I don't care who you are. Riding a motorcycle sans helmet is suicide.

[Hostile]

Live free or die, state motto in NH.

Did a 150 mile ride yesterday will Rolling Thunder (look them up, they support Military veterans groups (http://www.rollingthunder1.com/st-chapters.htm)). From Stuart air base Newburgh NY police escorted ride through the grounds of West Point and back. We all wore helmets, required in NY

No helmet law in CT and I for the most part, don't wear one...Put me on your idiot list.

NY, Mass require them, so when I leave CT I need to bring one.

Freedom is a funny thing. Does anyone here ride a bicycle and not wear a helmet ? Like Hos said, the feeling of the wind in your hair is hard to describe.

Like Ben said, riding in groups is safer. I ride with a group of 8-10 folks generally. 10 straight pipe Hogs make a lot of noise, people notice you which makes for a safer riding experience.

LOUD PIPES SAVES LIVES !You know it!

I do wear a helmet. Just not every ride. I should, and I know I should. I still don't.

[Wimbo]

You know it!

I do wear a helmet. Just not every ride. I should, and I know I should. I still don't.

Nice lesson for your kids.

[Hostile]

Nice lesson for your kids.My daughters don't ride and if they did they'd listen to their Mom. I'm the guilty one.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

latest word was that he was conscious but groggy afterwards. BLeeding from head but conscious. Probably will be ok - but still dumb.

He had talent but was dumb before, so as long as he still has the talent, you won't notice anything different about him.

[chinch]

Live free or die, state motto in NH.
we know... we all saw Johnny Cakes (sopranos) ;)

[Boom]

A former girlfriend of mine said in the ER they call helmets "Brain Crates"...

If the accident is serious, the skull is likely cracked inside the hemet anyway and all it does is hold it together until it is removed and spills out...

I hear some call motorcycle riders, "organ donors".

[silverbear]

People on a Steerlers board are saying the woman that hit him is at fault. Supposedly she drove right into him.

That's the way it seems to be, but of course that doesn't excuse Big Ben for not wearing a helmet... a motorcycle carries with it a certain element of danger, and only a fool would climb on one without a helmet...

This is particularly true of a young man making a ridiculous amount of money for a short amount of time...

[Derinyar]

I hear some call motorcycle riders, "organ donors".
I've heard the term Donor Cycles.

[gbrittain]

What if it was alcohol or other substance (e.g., andro) that are LEGAL?

Someone who was an alcoholic and tested positive for alcohol or a body building supplement that the league bans several times would get the same suspension as a cocaine user? Same outcome. The legal/not legal distinction doesn't concern me.

Sure, and that is why I am technically agreeing with you. From an NFL standpoint suspension, missing games due to riding without a helmet, or things of that matter is all the same. Missed games due to stupidity, cockiness, drug use, incarceration, or whatever is all the same in the end. Missed games hurt your team and fellow players.

I am just arguing the non NFL point of view. I do not equate a drug user, criminal activity and so on with a dude riding without a helmet.

[Hostile]

I hear some call motorcycle riders, "organ donors".Yes, they do. All over America you'll hear this.

I'm curious why more isn't being said about Bledsoe doing this same thing.

[Draegerman]

I hear some call motorcycle riders, "organ donors".
The only problem with that is there aren't that many organs left to donate after a crash. ;)

[Big Dakota]

That's the way it seems to be, but of course that doesn't excuse Big Ben for not wearing a helmet... a motorcycle carries with it a certain element of danger, and only a fool would climb on one without a helmet...

This is particularly true of a young man making a ridiculous amount of money for a short amount of time...

Now John clayton is on ESPN news saying the cops are looking for a car with Maine plates that may have caused Ben to crash into the other car.

[superpunk]

Yes, they do. All over America you'll hear this.

I'm curious why more isn't being said about Bledsoe doing this same thing.

I think that's pretty simple - Bledsoe's not the one in the hospital.

But that doesn't make him any less of a moron. Believe me, should he get injured, you'll hear even more outcry. This thread would be going on 500 posts now.

[Big Dakota]

we know... we all saw Johnny Cakes (sopranos) ;)

Oh man that's funny!! Post of the day on any site!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

[SupermanXx]

I couldn't agree more. I'm paralyzed from the neck down because of an accident in '85. (I was 16.) A guy pulled out in front of me. I almost died as it was. Without a helmet my head woulda been smashed to pulp. Riding a motorcycle takes idiocy, I don't care who you are. Riding a motorcycle sans helmet is suicide.

I'm sorry to hear that

I don't mean to be intrusive or nosey, but how are you typing if you're paralyzed?

[Vintage]

I'm sorry to hear that

I don't mean to be intrusive or nosey, but how are you typing if you're paralyzed?

I was wondering the same thing. Except, I didn't want to ask.

[DezBRomo9]

I agree, its hard to describe it, unless you have ridden a bike before. Its not even the same as wearing even a simple baseball cap. Heck even if you don't have hair, the breeze on bare skull is still different than one when wearing a Helmet ;)

Get a convertible. You dont have to wear a helmet and still get the same feeling. That's why I traded my bike/Camaro in on a convertible. Safer than a bike and almost as fast as one too.

[silverbear]

I'm sorry to hear that

I don't mean to be intrusive or nosey, but how are you typing if you're paralyzed?

There are any number of good voice recognition programs out there... you speak, and the PC types the words out for you... I'd imagine that VA uses one of them...

[Everlastingxxx]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/904361/9356658.jpg

Damage from Big Bens head.

[t.o.boys81]

Very sad that this had to happen to Big Ben. I hate to see anyone get hurt in these kind of situations. I hope he is alright and is still able to play football.

[Hostile]

I couldn't agree more. I'm paralyzed from the neck down because of an accident in '85. (I was 16.) A guy pulled out in front of me. I almost died as it was. Without a helmet my head woulda been smashed to pulp. Riding a motorcycle takes idiocy, I don't care who you are. Riding a motorcycle sans helmet is suicide.From a fellow rider, I'm sorry to hear this. I've had my share of wrecks. Nothing like what happened to you, and so young too.

Your posts come across as very intelligent, and I'm glad to see you don't let it stop you from doing what you enjoy.

I've had friends killed on bikes and friends hurt like you. When you love the machines and love riding nothing is a deterrent.

[StanleySpadowski]

For those unfamiliar with Pittsburgh, the area of this accident is a constant cluster ----. Probably one of the most accident prone areas of any major city, terrible signage, confusing direction changes, sun/glare problems... I've seen many " out of towners" in fender benders there even though it's a relatively low speed area. Unfortunately for Roethlisburger, there aren't many "minor" cycle crashes.

[Draegerman]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/904361/9356658.jpg

Damage from Big Bens head.
Holy cow! It would be hard to believe that someone would come out of that healthy enough even with a motorcycle helmet.

[rusteezcuz]

I understand we may not agree with his lack of a helmet; however, can we please not degrade him by calling him a moron? We don't know the details, but for all we know a man's life and future could be in question. Let's just try to be respectful of a human life.

[Duane]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

PITTSBURGH -- Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was badly hurt in a motorcycle crash Monday and undergoing surgery. The extent of his injuries was not known.

Ben Roethlisberger

Roethlisberger

Roethlisberger was in serious but stable condition, said Dr. Larry Jones, chief of trauma at Mercy Hospital.

"He was talking to me before he left for the operating room," Jones said before the operation. "He's coherent. He's making sense. He knows what happened. He knows where he is. From that standpoint, he's very stable."

The 24-year-old Roethlisberger likes to ride without a helmet, a habit that once prompted coach Bill Cowher to lecture him on the dangers.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. The Associated Press reported it wasn't clear whether he was wearing a helmet or not.

The crash happened at an intersection at the edge of downtown at about 11:30 a.m. A pool of blood was still visible there by early afternoon.

Police spokesman Lt. Kevin Kraus said police and homicide units were investigating the crash, something standard when there is an accident with critical injuries. Kraus would give no details on the extent of Roethlisberger's injuries or if anyone else was injured.

The accident occurred on Second Avenue near the intersection of 10th Street in Pittsburgh, around 11:30 a.m. The route is one often taken in traveling to the Steelers' facility in the Southside section of the city.

Steelers backup quarterback Charlie Batch was at the emergency room. He had no comment.

A silver Chrysler New Yorker with damage to the front passenger fender was removed and Roethlisberger's bike was loaded onto a flatbed truck. Police were detouring traffic around the crash scene as onlookers and media gathered.

One of his agents, Ryan Tollner, is in route to Pittsburgh for what was supposed to be a pre-planned trip and will arrive later Monday.

In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger became the youngest quarterback to lead a team to the Super Bowl championship. He was 23 when he did it last February.

Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Cowher warned him about safe riding after Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was injured in a motorcycle accident. Winslow tore knee ligaments and was lost for the season.

"He talked about being a risk-taker and I'm not really a risk-taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.

Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."

ESPN.com football writers Len Pasquarelli and John Clayton and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[t.o.boys81]

I understand we may not agree with his lack of a helmet; however, can we please not degrade him by calling him a moron? We don't know the details, but for all we know a man's life and future could be in question. Let's just try to be respectful of a human life.

Very good call, man. I definitly agree we need to be more respectful. This is a very serious problem for Big Ben.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Now John clayton is on ESPN news saying the cops are looking for a car with Maine plates that may have caused Ben to crash into the other car.

Yeah, not like they would consider their SB hero to be the cause of his own misfortune.

[Hostile]

Get a convertible. You dont have to wear a helmet and still get the same feeling. That's why I traded my bike/Camaro in on a convertible. Safer than a bike and almost as fast as one too.I got rid of my convertable last year. It isn't the same.

I have a cousin who was in an accident in Arkansas a few months ago. he's paralyzed from the neck down. He was in a hard top car and wearing a seat belt. On top of that he was deemed to be doing less than 40 miles per hour when the car rolled.

Life is a risk. Some of us take unecessary ones. Some you never see coming.

[trickblue]

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20060613sm_benwreck02_580.jpg

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20060613sm_benwreck01_580.jpg

[RCowboyFan]

I got rid of my convertable last year. It isn't the same.

I have a cousin who was in an accident in Arkansas a few months ago. he's paralyzed from the neck down. He was in a hard top car and wearing a seat belt. On top of that he was deemed to be doing less than 40 miles per hour when the car rolled.

Life is a risk. Some of us take unecessary ones. Some you never see coming.

I agree, no way that its the same. Its not just feeling the air part only that unique in riding a bike. Its almost flying type of feeling. Heck you can put your head of your car, like a dog and feel the air if not :grin:

[SupermanXx]

wonder what kinda names people would be calling Mike Vick if this happened to him

[trickblue]

wonder what kinda names people would be calling Mike Vick if this happened to him

He's so over-rated as a motor cyclist it's not even funny... :rolleyes:

[Bungarian]

What is that white stuff on the windsheild? Bird poop?

[Funxva]

"The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. In previous interviews, Roethlisberger has said that he does not like wearing a helmet while wearing a motorcycle." :eek:

I hate when that happens! I tried to wear a motorcycle once, and I could not fit the helmet on, so I had to leave the helmet home. But, man, wearing a motorcycle is some hard stuff! :cool:

I don't wear a helmet either when I ride....

I wish Ben a speedy recovery...

:star:

Don't worry. I will take good care of Gibbs when you bust your skull, bro.

[chinch]

I understand we may not agree with his lack of a helmet; however, can we please not degrade him by calling him a moron? We don't know the details, but for all we know a man's life and future could be in question. Let's just try to be respectful of a human life.
sorry but he is a MORON.

might be a nice, standup guy but he is a MORON.

VAC i know you don't want to have a pity parade but as much as i'm sorry to hear i'm glad you shared that because maybe it will make someone - especially someone older perhaps w/ a family - rethink their self-indulgence of riding and prevent a needless injury.

ps - i did alot of dirt biking (& on/off riding) age 7 thru college (bike stolen switched to mountain bike and pedal power) & was very fortunate to only suffer a fractured foot (3 metatarsals)

[Hostile]

What is that white stuff on the windsheild? Bird poop?Cranial fluid is a clear liquid. If there is blood in the cranial fluid and a bandage is held to the wound it appears to look like a target. Clear or white with a red ring.

It could be drool from his mouth. It could be bird poop althought it seldom runs like that.

[Double Trouble]

A lot of riders don't wear helmets because of increased risk of neck injury and paralysis. I have a family member who is paralyzed from the chest down (not from a motorcycle wreck). While he was at the Sheppard Center in Atlanta, his family said there were multiple instances there of guys riding motorcycles who were injured from the weight of the helmet. His brother - a former avid motorcycle rider - said that he'd never wear a helmet again.

I don't know Big Ben's reasons, but everyone who's calling him an idiot for not wearing a helmet should reserve judgement. The reality is that unless you're in an extremely low traffic area, riding is just too risky. There are just too many bad and discourteous drivers these days.

[gbrittain]

sorry but he is a MORON.

might be a nice, standup guy but he is a MORON.

VAC i know you don't want to have a pity parade but as much as i'm sorry to hear i'm glad you shared that because maybe it will make someone - especially someone older perhaps w/ a family - rethink their self-indulgence of riding and prevent a needless injury.

ps - i did alot of dirt biking (& on/off riding) age 7 thru college (bike stolen switched to mountain bike and pedal power) & was very fortunate to only suffer a fractured foot (3 metatarsals)

I rode a Sportbike for about three years while stationed in Hawaii a few years back. I absolutely enjoyed every minute of it. Thinking back on it now, it was still a blast and absolutely enjoyable, but considering I had a wife and two kids probably not the smartest thing I have done.

Not knocking anyone who does ride, I did. I had to make a decision and for me the right thing to do was to give it up.

I have been involved in about 4-5 wrecks (not my fault) in a vehicle since I began driving about 17 years ago. Came out unscathed in every single one. Any one of those wrecks would have probably been fatal had I been on a motorcycle. It is just not a risk that is right for me and my family right now.

[Vintage]

My dad used to have a bike.

My mom made him get rid of it when they started having kids.

I am glad. My dad has been in a couple of serious accidents since then. Fortunately, my dad listened to my mom and got rid of it.

Sure beats having my mom explain to me why dad is dead. Or growing up without a father....

[tnfan]

That is sad news. Hope is recovers. I though he had a harley.. That looks like a hayabusa in those pictures.

[chinch]

My dad used to have a bike.

My mom made him get rid of it when they started having kids.

I am glad. My dad has been in a couple of serious accidents since then. Fortunately, my dad listened to my mom and got rid of it.

Sure beats having my mom explain to me why dad is dead. Or growing up without a father....
And your dad deserves credit for thinking selflessly. it's sorta hard to explain to a kid...

"daddy cared more about riding his motorcycle than he did you and the rest of us".

of course you could insert any wreckless hobby/addiction into this but since we're on the motorcycle topic...

[trickblue]

And your dad deserves credit for thinking selflessly. it's sorta hard to explain to a kid...

"daddy cared more about riding his motorcycle than he did you and the rest of us".

of course you could insert any wreckless hobby/addiction into this but since we're on the motorcycle topic...

OUCH!!! :eek:

[superpunk]

Just posted by a Pitt native on another site (link doesnt work)

Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.

[Doomsday101]

Just posted by a Pitt native on another site (link doesnt work)

Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.

Looking at the pictures he is lucky not to be dead.

[tnfan]

Looking at the pictures he is lucky not to be dead.

I agree. I have seen similar motorcycle accident pictures with dead bodies included.

[sacase]

Just posted by a Pitt native on another site (link doesnt work)

Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.

I think his NFL career is about done. So sad.....So much Talent.

[superpunk]

Looking at the pictures he is lucky not to be dead.

Yeah.

People don't walk away from that too often. I can't believe he was able to answer his name.

[arglebargle]

A lot of riders don't wear helmets because of increased risk of neck injury and paralysis. I have a family member who is paralyzed from the chest down (not from a motorcycle wreck). While he was at the Sheppard Center in Atlanta, his family said there were multiple instances there of guys riding motorcycles who were injured from the weight of the helmet. His brother - a former avid motorcycle rider - said that he'd never wear a helmet again.

I don't know Big Ben's reasons, but everyone who's calling him an idiot for not wearing a helmet should reserve judgement. The reality is that unless you're in an extremely low traffic area, riding is just too risky. There are just too many bad and discourteous drivers these days.

Evidence presented at the Texas Legislature's re-examination of the Helmet Law pretty much backs this up. When you where a helmet you have fewer deaths and brain injuries, but more neck and spinal injuries. I personally would not ride without a helmet, but it is a choice people should have.

Me, I decided early that motorcycles, while a blast, were too dangerous for me. Decided on a dune buggy instead. With a helmet....

[Doomsday101]

I agree. I have seen similar motorcycle accident pictures with dead bodies included.

Does not take much on a motorcycle. I'm not opposed to bikes and have ridden in the past but there is a risk to them especially in a big city.

[superpunk]

Yeah, that's definitely what's being reported.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_457685.html

Fickle link - just warning.

[RCowboyFan]

Looking at the pictures he is lucky not to be dead.

Well sometimes, pictures look worse than it is. Like when I flipped my car on Highway, the car looked like, it had dead people in it or seriously injured people in it. All I got was really, minor scratch on my forehead and a neck strain for couple of days. The cop who came asked me "How the heck did you not get any serious injuries?". Considering, my car was on opposite lane, sideway or shoulder, on a National Highway. Heck, I would have thought myself if I had seen the car passing by, that someone must have died or nearly died. I guess it all depends on how it happened and what position that the guy was in etc.

[joseephuss]

Last season ESPN did a story on motorcyle riders in the NFL. They focusedon Winslow and another guy from the Jest that had a wreck. They interviewed Big Ben and Bledsoe. Both QBs sounded the same. They don't ride during the season, but no one is going to stop them from riding and doing so without a helmet in the off season.

I just recently obtained my motorcycle license. I am shopping for my own bike, but am in no rush. I tooled around on a friends Hond Shadow 750 yesterday without a helmet. Felt great. I didn't get on any highways or open rodes. Just stuck to a neighborhood. I plan on getting a helmet before I ever start hitting the main roads of traffic or the country. It feel good having the wind go over my bald head, but I will get a helmet and wear it once I get my own ride.

[burmafrd]

What is really needed is a type of shoulder harness/neck brace in addition to the helmet; but of course that would be bulky as hell. Its a trade off: brain injury vs spinal injury. You are better off with the one clearly more then the other, but it ain't no picnic. Bottom line is that overall you are still better off with helmet then without it.

[trickblue]

Yeah, that's definitely what's being reported.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_457685.html

Fickle link - just warning.
Dan Patrick had a Pittsburgh sports write on a bit agao... pretty much what is being reported...

And a broken jaw... he will drop alot of weight if they wire his mouth shut...

[Doomsday101]

Well sometimes, pictures look worse than it is. Like when I flipped my car on Highway, the car looked like, it had dead people in it or seriously injured people in it. All I got was really, minor scratch on my forehead and a neck strain for couple of days. The cop who came asked me "How the heck did you not get any serious injuries?". Considering, my car was on opposite lane, sideway or shoulder, on a National Highway. Heck, I would have thought myself if I had seen the car passing by, that someone must have died or nearly died. I guess it all depends on how it happened and what position that the guy was in etc.

I have had my share of bad accidents, from a head on with a drunk driver to flipping an SUV however at least in a car you have some protection. On a bike even a helmet can only help so much

[BigDFan5]

By Jill King Greenwood and and Karen Roebuck
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, June 12, 2006


Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition and in surgery this afternoon following a serious head injury this morning after his motorcycle collided with a car on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge, police said.
Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.
A plastic surgeon has been summoned.

"He is right now in the (operating room) undergoing some surgery from injuries he received in this accident today," said Dr. Larry Jones, chief of trauma and burns at Mercy Hospital, Uptown. ... He was talking to me before he left for the OR. He's coherent. He's making sense. He knows what happened."

Roethlisberger, 24, who was not wearing a helmet, collided with a Chrysler New Yorker shortly before 11:25 a.m. and was thrown off his motorcycle, flying head-first into the car's windshield "with a pretty good force," said a veteran city police officer.
Roethlisberger was talking and moving his arms and legs after the accident. He suffered injuries to his face and lost several teeth, according to city firefighters.

The injured quarterback was taken to Mercy Hospital, said a Steelers spokesman, who declined to provide other information.
The car, which has Maine license plates, was heading west on Second Avenue and was turning left onto the 10th Street Bridge. Roethlisberger was driving east on Second Avenue riding a Suzuki Hayabusa and collided with the car at the intersection of the bridge and the Armstrong Tunnels.

Roethlisberger, who led the Steelers to a Super Bowl championship this year, slammed into the windshield, rolled over the car and landed on the pavement, striking his head again, said a woman who witnessed the accident.
The witness, who declined to give her name, asked Roethlisberger several times if he was OK. He eventually replied, "My name is Ben."
He asked: "Where am I?"

"You're at the Armstrong Tunnel," the witness said.
"What city is that in?" he said.
"Pittsburgh," the woman replied.
Roethlisberger fell silent for about a minute and then tried to stand up.
"I'm OK," he said.

"No you're not," said the woman, who instructed him to stay still.
Pittsburgh homicide detectives are investigating the accident, which is standard procedure when critical injuries are involved, said city police Lt. Kevin Kraus.

Roethlisberger's 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa, which is named after a Japanese bird of prey, was totaled. The front wheel was broken in half. The handle bars were broken. The left pedal was shattered. The 170-horsepower bike, which weighs 500 pounds fully loaded, was targeted by law enforcement agencies worldwide after its 1998 debut because it could reach a top speed of 189 mph.
Suzuki Motorcycles of North America gave Roethlisberger the bike as part of a promotional deal in exchange for him appearing at several Suzuki dealerships in the area, including Andrews Cycle in Salem, Ohio where he picked up the motorcycle last summer. Andrews' sales staff declined comment.

The motorcycle is popular among first-time buyers, said Steve Stiller, a salesman at Northgate Motorcycles in Cranberry, Butler County.
Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet.
"He talked about being a risktaker and I'm not really a risktaker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

In May 2005, Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. tore knee ligaments in a motorcycle accident and was lost for the season.
Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.

Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."
Earlier this year, Roethlisberger led the Steelers to the NFL title, giving the team the fifth Super Bowl win they had been chasing since 1980. The Associated Press contributed to this report

[RiggoForever]

I think his NFL career is about done. So sad.....So much Talent.

Not necessarily...I think it depends on how badly his knees were hurt. The rest of what was mentioned wouldn't keep him out more then a couple months.

[superpunk]

Oh, thanks BigD.

[rcaldw]

I'm not trying to be sanctimonious here, but why do we have to say "he's a moron"?

Do you ever stop to think how many times in a week we are ALL morons? If you think that you are safe and healthy today because you have only made wise life choices, you are the moron, respectfully speaking. :)

[DBoys]

He will never play again even if he does it will be 2+ years of recovery

[BigDFan5]

Oh, thanks BigD.

:) no prob

[RCowboyFan]

I have had my share of bad accidents, from a head on with a drunk driver to flipping an SUV however at least in a car you have some protection. On a bike even a helmet can only help so much

Exactly, like TrickBlue posted and I posted, sometimes it does harm too. Bike Riding is just dangerous period, than a car driving. But I guess sometimes, you can't help being at wrong time and wrong place all the time. Like a cop told me once, when a girl ran out into the street and hit my car basically. I was nervous as heck but cop calmed me down since there were several witnesses, saying "Don't worry man. You just happened to be in the wrong place at wrong time, thats all". Heck if that girl ran out few seconds early, she would have gone under a Semi.

[Vintage]

He will never play again even if he does it will be 2+ years of recovery

I bet he plays again.

From what it sounds like, broken jaw, missing teeth, lacerations, and road rash on his knees.

Hardly career-ending....

[superpunk]

I bet he plays again.

From what it sounds like, broken jaw, missing teeth, lacerations, and road rash on his knees.

Hardly career-ending....

agreed. The recovery might be lengthy, but he will recover.

[RCowboyFan]

I'm not trying to be sanctimonious here, but why do we have to say "he's a moron"?

Do you ever stop to think how many times in a week we are ALL morons? If you think that you are safe and healthy today because you have only made wise life choices, you are the moron, respectfully speaking. :)

True to certain degree, but when he was told so last year by several people, and even chastised by Bradshaw in media, you would be called a Moron for not taking head to warning. Its just putting yourself up for redicule when they prove right.

Same as Bledsoe would be, he if gets into an accident, if he rides without a helmet and gets into serious accident. Especially since he has family to take care of too, which would make it more idiotic. Although I don't know if Bledsoe rides his bike in the city or not.

[joseephuss]

I'm not trying to be sanctimonious here, but why do we have to say "he's a moron"?

Do you ever stop to think how many times in a week we are ALL morons? If you think that you are safe and healthy today because you have only made wise life choices, you are the moron, respectfully speaking. :)

I agree. Everything is a risk. Some are just bigger than others. That doesn't make him a moron. It just means he views things diferently than some and maybe not so diffently than others. Some may not take that risk of even riding a motorcyle because they want to get the most out of the NFL. Other may do it because they already have a few million in the bank because of the NFL. Were each different.

[dmq]

I had my share of close calls on a bike. One day I was out throwing a football around and saw two guys speed right into a ditch. We were the first ones on the scene. They were screaming in pain. The one kid was paralyzed. I put my bike up for sale the next day. Bought a classic car and have never felt safer.

[VACowboy]

I'm definitely not to be pitied. Sure, I wish I could do all the physical things I used to do, but my life is good. I have a degree in English from UVA and a certificate in computer science from VCU. I design online computer games. I have season tickets to UVA football and hoops. I travel extensively with my beautiful red-headed live-in girlfriend of seven years -- cruises, California, Florida, NYC, Vegas at least once a year, wherever we wanna go. I've been to a Cowboys training camp, in Austin, and am thinking about spending a month in San Antonio next year. And, hell, I lost my virginity to a French Canadien girl I met playing spades on Yahoo. My motto is, no matter how bad off you are, there's always someone worse. What am I gonna do, lie in bed and mope?

Anyway, I type on an on-screen keyboard. I wear a headset whose movement is tracked by a box sitting atop my monitor; It replaces the mouse. I click by puffing on a straw attached to the headset. Having used the thing for the past 20 years, I've gotten pretty good. I'd guess that I type near 30 words a minute.

So that's probably more than you wanted to know, but I'm proud of what I've overcome, what I've achieved, where my life is and where it's going. I know too many guys in my situation who give up on life, and if reading what I write or hearing that there can be life after catastrophe causes someone to ask questions or gives him/her hope, then my day is made.

[Doomsday101]

Exactly, like TrickBlue posted and I posted, sometimes it does harm too. Bike Riding is just dangerous period, than a car driving. But I guess sometimes, you can't help being at wrong time and wrong place all the time. Like a cop told me once, when a girl ran out into the street and hit my car basically. I was nervous as heck but cop calmed me down since there were several witnesses, saying "Don't worry man. You just happened to be in the wrong place at wrong time, thats all". Heck if that girl ran out few seconds early, she would have gone under a Semi.

That is why they call them accidents. :laugh1:

[RiggoForever]

I'm wondering if the NFL and Steelers pay for his medical and dental bills, are they obligated to do so under these circumstances?

It would be the classy and smart thing for the Steelers to do, but to what extent is the NFL financially responsible in terms of health insurance for decisions made by its players in the offseason and off the field.

[Dangerous Dave]

The article did say he severely injured both knees...

Does that mean road rash or blown ACL(s)?

The broken jaw and missing teeth alone will cost him at least
3 months.

If he were a redskin, I'm sure ES would only be debating whether
he'd be back in time for their 2006 training camp...

[Hostile]

By Jill King Greenwood and and Karen Roebuck
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, June 12, 2006


Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition and in surgery this afternoon following a serious head injury this morning after his motorcycle collided with a car on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge, police said.
Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.
A plastic surgeon has been summoned.

"He is right now in the (operating room) undergoing some surgery from injuries he received in this accident today," said Dr. Larry Jones, chief of trauma and burns at Mercy Hospital, Uptown. ... He was talking to me before he left for the OR. He's coherent. He's making sense. He knows what happened."

Roethlisberger, 24, who was not wearing a helmet, collided with a Chrysler New Yorker shortly before 11:25 a.m. and was thrown off his motorcycle, flying head-first into the car's windshield "with a pretty good force," said a veteran city police officer.
Roethlisberger was talking and moving his arms and legs after the accident. He suffered injuries to his face and lost several teeth, according to city firefighters.

The injured quarterback was taken to Mercy Hospital, said a Steelers spokesman, who declined to provide other information.
The car, which has Maine license plates, was heading west on Second Avenue and was turning left onto the 10th Street Bridge. Roethlisberger was driving east on Second Avenue riding a Suzuki Hayabusa and collided with the car at the intersection of the bridge and the Armstrong Tunnels.

Roethlisberger, who led the Steelers to a Super Bowl championship this year, slammed into the windshield, rolled over the car and landed on the pavement, striking his head again, said a woman who witnessed the accident.
The witness, who declined to give her name, asked Roethlisberger several times if he was OK. He eventually replied, "My name is Ben."
He asked: "Where am I?"

"You're at the Armstrong Tunnel," the witness said.
"What city is that in?" he said.
"Pittsburgh," the woman replied.
Roethlisberger fell silent for about a minute and then tried to stand up.
"I'm OK," he said.

"No you're not," said the woman, who instructed him to stay still.
Pittsburgh homicide detectives are investigating the accident, which is standard procedure when critical injuries are involved, said city police Lt. Kevin Kraus.

Roethlisberger's 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa, which is named after a Japanese bird of prey, was totaled. The front wheel was broken in half. The handle bars were broken. The left pedal was shattered. The 170-horsepower bike, which weighs 500 pounds fully loaded, was targeted by law enforcement agencies worldwide after its 1998 debut because it could reach a top speed of 189 mph.
Suzuki Motorcycles of North America gave Roethlisberger the bike as part of a promotional deal in exchange for him appearing at several Suzuki dealerships in the area, including Andrews Cycle in Salem, Ohio where he picked up the motorcycle last summer. Andrews' sales staff declined comment.

The motorcycle is popular among first-time buyers, said Steve Stiller, a salesman at Northgate Motorcycles in Cranberry, Butler County.
Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet.
"He talked about being a risktaker and I'm not really a risktaker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

In May 2005, Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. tore knee ligaments in a motorcycle accident and was lost for the season.
Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.

Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."
Earlier this year, Roethlisberger led the Steelers to the NFL title, giving the team the fifth Super Bowl win they had been chasing since 1980. The Associated Press contributed to this report Yikes. That's an ominous article.

[RiggoForever]

The article did say he severely injured both knees...

Does that mean road rash or blown ACL(s)?

The broken jaw and missing teeth alone will cost him at least
3 months.

If he were a redskin, I'm sure ES would only be debating whether
he'd be back in time for their 2006 training camp...

Come on be fair, this is a bit different and more grave of a situation then fracturing the tip of your finger throwing during an OTA and hitting another players helmet.

[Vintage]

The article did say he severely injured both knees...

Does that mean road rash or blown ACL(s)?

The broken jaw and missing teeth alone will cost him at least
3 months.

If he were a redskin, I'm sure ES would only be debating whether
he'd be back in time for their 2006 training camp...

The Steeler board says its road rash, coming from an inside source over there.

[Dangerous Dave]

I'm wondering if the NFL and Steelers pay for his medical and dental bills, are they obligated to do so under these circumstances?

It would be the classy and smart thing for the Steelers to do, but to what extent is the NFL financially responsible in terms of health insurance for decisions made by its players in the offseason and off the field.

Whenever life hits Redskins with tough decisions, you must ask yourself:

WWJD, ...What Would Joe Do? :laugh1:

[sacase]

Not necessarily...I think it depends on how badly his knees were hurt. The rest of what was mentioned wouldn't keep him out more then a couple months.

Well considering it is a head injury there could be other damage. I mean Troy had to retire do to multiple head injuries and I bet this is a hell of a lot worse than anything Troy ever expereinced. He might not be able to take a hit in the NFL without risking serious injury.

[Hostile]

I'm definitely not to be pitied. Sure, I wish I could do all the physical things I used to do, but my life is good. I have a degree in English from UVA and a certificate in computer science from VCU. I design online computer games. I have season tickets to UVA football and hoops. I travel extensively with my beautiful red-headed live-in girlfriend of seven years -- cruises, California, Florida, NYC, Vegas at least once a year, wherever we wanna go. I've been to a Cowboys training camp, in Austin, and am thinking about spending a month in San Antonio next year. And, hell, I lost my virginity to a French Canadien girl I met playing spades on Yahoo. My motto is, no matter how bad off you are, there's always someone worse. What am I gonna do, lie in bed and mope?

Anyway, I type on an on-screen keyboard. I wear a headset whose movement is tracked by a box sitting atop my monitor; It replaces the mouse. I click by puffing on a straw attached to the headset. Having used the thing for the past 20 years, I've gotten pretty good. I'd guess that I type near 30 words a minute.

So that's probably more than you wanted to know, but I'm proud of what I've overcome, what I've achieved, where my life is and where it's going. I know too many guys in my situation who give up on life, and if reading what I write or hearing that there can be life after catastrophe causes someone to ask questions or gives him/her hope, then my day is made.You damn well should be. Can I read this post to my cousin? Not sure if you saw it or not, but he's in the same condition as you from a recent wreck in Arkansas. Two big differences, he has some movement but no control yet, and he's acting like his life is over. I want him to learn something from you.

[RiggoForever]

Whenever life hits Redskins with tough decisions, you must ask yourself:

WWJD, ...What Would Joe Do? :laugh1:

Joe would convince Snyder to foot all the medical bills even if the NFL didn't mandate it, if something similar happened to Brunell.

[Vintage]

I'm definitely not to be pitied. Sure, I wish I could do all the physical things I used to do, but my life is good. I have a degree in English from UVA and a certificate in computer science from VCU. I design online computer games. I have season tickets to UVA football and hoops. I travel extensively with my beautiful red-headed live-in girlfriend of seven years -- cruises, California, Florida, NYC, Vegas at least once a year, wherever we wanna go. I've been to a Cowboys training camp, in Austin, and am thinking about spending a month in San Antonio next year. And, hell, I lost my virginity to a French Canadien girl I met playing spades on Yahoo. My motto is, no matter how bad off you are, there's always someone worse. What am I gonna do, lie in bed and mope?

Anyway, I type on an on-screen keyboard. I wear a headset whose movement is tracked by a box sitting atop my monitor; It replaces the mouse. I click by puffing on a straw attached to the headset. Having used the thing for the past 20 years, I've gotten pretty good. I'd guess that I type near 30 words a minute.

So that's probably more than you wanted to know, but I'm proud of what I've overcome, what I've achieved, where my life is and where it's going. I know too many guys in my situation who give up on life, and if reading what I write or hearing that there can be life after catastrophe causes someone to ask questions or gives him/her hope, then my day is made.

There are very few times I am rendered speechless....or at least have some smart*** comment to add.

This would be one of them.

Not really sure what to say to this.

[SupermanXx]

take back my "idiot" comment

sorry

[InmanRoshi]

There's enough tradedy and pain in this world without having to egg it on. Whether you decide its appropriate to label him a "moron" or not, he decided to play with fire (against repeated warnings) with high risk behavour, and now he's going to suffer the consequences. Just another guy who thought he was invincible and that it would never happen to him.

[Jarv]

My daughters don't ride and if they did they'd listen to their Mom. I'm the guilty one.

Mine have to wear one when they ride with me....I'm such a hypocrit...

[Dangerous Dave]

Joe would convince Snyder to foot all the medical bills even if the NFL didn't mandate it.
Wrong. Joe would convince God to heal his QB TODAY...

[trickblue]

Wrong. Joe would convince God to heal his QB TODAY...

Convince him?

He would MANDATE it... :D

[Bungarian]

The broken jaw and missing teeth alone will cost him at least
3 months.

That is going to hurt like a mother. I knew a guy who did that. They wired his mouth shut to let it heal but did not fix his teeth until after the wires came off. All those broken teeth hurt like hell with the nerves exposed.

[superpunk]

Good man, VA.

[Yeagermeister]

I'm definitely not to be pitied. Sure, I wish I could do all the physical things I used to do, but my life is good. I have a degree in English from UVA and a certificate in computer science from VCU. I design online computer games. I have season tickets to UVA football and hoops. I travel extensively with my beautiful red-headed live-in girlfriend of seven years -- cruises, California, Florida, NYC, Vegas at least once a year, wherever we wanna go. I've been to a Cowboys training camp, in Austin, and am thinking about spending a month in San Antonio next year. And, hell, I lost my virginity to a French Canadien girl I met playing spades on Yahoo. My motto is, no matter how bad off you are, there's always someone worse. What am I gonna do, lie in bed and mope?

Anyway, I type on an on-screen keyboard. I wear a headset whose movement is tracked by a box sitting atop my monitor; It replaces the mouse. I click by puffing on a straw attached to the headset. Having used the thing for the past 20 years, I've gotten pretty good. I'd guess that I type near 30 words a minute.

So that's probably more than you wanted to know, but I'm proud of what I've overcome, what I've achieved, where my life is and where it's going. I know too many guys in my situation who give up on life, and if reading what I write or hearing that there can be life after catastrophe causes someone to ask questions or gives him/her hope, then my day is made.

I am in awe :worthy:

[DBoys]

The Steeler board says its road rash, coming from an inside source over there.

More like wishful thinking. The last thing you do is mess with head injuries. He will never be the same and I would be scared to death on the first helmet collision.

[RCowboyFan]

I'm definitely not to be pitied. Sure, I wish I could do all the physical things I used to do, but my life is good. I have a degree in English from UVA and a certificate in computer science from VCU. I design online computer games. I have season tickets to UVA football and hoops. I travel extensively with my beautiful red-headed live-in girlfriend of seven years -- cruises, California, Florida, NYC, Vegas at least once a year, wherever we wanna go. I've been to a Cowboys training camp, in Austin, and am thinking about spending a month in San Antonio next year. And, hell, I lost my virginity to a French Canadien girl I met playing spades on Yahoo. My motto is, no matter how bad off you are, there's always someone worse. What am I gonna do, lie in bed and mope?

Anyway, I type on an on-screen keyboard. I wear a headset whose movement is tracked by a box sitting atop my monitor; It replaces the mouse. I click by puffing on a straw attached to the headset. Having used the thing for the past 20 years, I've gotten pretty good. I'd guess that I type near 30 words a minute.

So that's probably more than you wanted to know, but I'm proud of what I've overcome, what I've achieved, where my life is and where it's going. I know too many guys in my situation who give up on life, and if reading what I write or hearing that there can be life after catastrophe causes someone to ask questions or gives him/her hope, then my day is made.

Thats great motto to live by man. Thats what I tell my wife when she starts to complain about the things we don't have etc :) Seriously, no matter what bad situation you are in, you can always find someone else thats worse off than you.

But having said that, you have to be proud of what you have done dude. My Kudos to you.

[Everlastingxxx]

So that's probably more than you wanted to know, but I'm proud of what I've overcome, what I've achieved, where my life is and where it's going. I know too many guys in my situation who give up on life, and if reading what I write or hearing that there can be life after catastrophe causes someone to ask questions or gives him/her hope, then my day is made.

That’s awesome man.

[Gibby!]

The front wheel was broken in half. The handle bars were broken. The left pedal was shattered.

I saw an accident much like this on I-40 (well off of I-40 on the turnpike) going through OKC last year. Guy on the bike was coming up a hill, a Cavalier was turning left into a gas station, sun low in the sky, right in the riders face, guy on the bike never saw the car at all, guy in the car never saw the bike. Hit the car in the same place as Roeth did, right around the wheel well and he slammed into windshield, the guy got up and walked over to the side of the road and sat down with a broken ankle. His helmet was cracked in half. Personnaly I am glad he wore the helmet as I was the first one on the scene. Imagine...

A co-worker on a bike spent months in the hospital after broadsiding a mini-van that pulled out in front of him, dead without a helmet.

I don't necessarily think your an idiot if you dont wear a helmet, but I do think that you significantly reduce your chances of dying. Helmets and Seatbelts both have saved significantly more lives than they are to blame for loosing.

[DezBRomo9]

So Ben goes from Harley's to freebie Hayabusa's? Not a smart move. 'busa's are like going from a Chevy Celebrity to Ferrari Enzo. The sheer power is amazing. I had a 05' Kawasaki 636 then rode my buddies Hayabusa for fun, could be fun but got a little too crazy for me. I put it up for sale and sold it to some 16 year old. Then I sold my Camaro and bought my '03 Cobra convertible. Bikes can be fun, but insurance and possibly my life is worth way too much to even consider owning a bike again.

[BigDFan5]

Vintage what board is saying its road rash to the knees?

[VACowboy]

Thanks for the kudos and stuff, but I don't deserve them any more than anyone else. Really, what am I gonna do? I'm no different than anyone else. We all have problems. As for me, I wake up in the morning and decide to get out of bed because life is worth living. I have my mind, and that's really who I am, right? I don't have a debilatating or terminal disease. I don't have 3rd degree burns over 80% of my body. I'm not a helpless, starving child in a third world country. Etc. Etc. Etc. How lucky are we all?

[lzppjb]

You deserve kudos for your outlook on life. I think that's what people are giving you, not pity.

[Vintage]

Vintage what board is saying its road rash to the knees?

Steelers.Scout.com

They have a thread on it in the section called Heinz Field. On page 16 or 17 IIRC, of that thread entitled "Ben hurt in motorcycle accident."

[BigDFan5]

Steelers.Scout.com

They have a thread on it in the section called Heinz Field. On page 16 or 17 IIRC, of that thread entitled "Ben hurt in motorcycle accident."

Thanks :)

[Vintage]

Thanks :)

No problem.

[chinch]

I'm proud of what I've overcome, what I've achieved, where my life is and where it's going. I know too many guys in my situation who give up on life, and if reading what I write or hearing that there can be life after catastrophe causes someone to ask questions or gives him/her hope, then my day is made.
You should be proud for sure. :) Major props.

After a bleak time my friend has thankfully found his way, come to terms with his new life condition and actually is doing well.

[Chief]

Steelers.Scout.com

They have a thread on it in the section called Heinz Field. On page 16 or 17 IIRC, of that thread entitled "Ben hurt in motorcycle accident."

Road rash to the knees requires emergency surgery to the jaw/head?

They're sweatin' and hopin'

[aznhalf]

I'm pretty sure the fractured left sinus cavity bone is the most serious injury out of that bunch (real injury, not football threatening injury which would be his knees).

My friend had a similar injury. Your sinus cavity is adjacent to your brain and a lot of other soft tissues, they're a lot of complications that come with an injury like that. Wish him the best.

And VACowboy, that is quite an amazing story. Truly inspirational.

[AdamJT13]

Sorry if this has been posted. I haven't read the entire thread --

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/accident.html

By Jill King Greenwood and and Karen Roebuck
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, June 12, 2006

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition and in surgery this afternoon following a serious head injury this morning after his motorcycle collided with a car on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge, police said.

Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.

A plastic surgeon has been summoned.

"He is right now in the (operating room) undergoing some surgery from injuries he received in this accident today," said Dr. Larry Jones, chief of trauma and burns at Mercy Hospital, Uptown. ... He was talking to me before he left for the OR. He's coherent. He's making sense. He knows what happened."


Roethlisberger, 24, who was not wearing a helmet, collided with a Chrysler New Yorker shortly before 11:25 a.m. and was thrown off his motorcycle, flying head-first into the car's windshield "with a pretty good force," said a veteran city police officer.

Roethlisberger was talking and moving his arms and legs after the accident. He suffered injuries to his face and lost several teeth, according to city firefighters.

The injured quarterback was taken to Mercy Hospital, said a Steelers spokesman, who declined to provide other information.

The car, which has Maine license plates, was heading west on Second Avenue and was turning left onto the 10th Street Bridge. Roethlisberger was driving east on Second Avenue riding a Suzuki Hayabusa and collided with the car at the intersection of the bridge and the Armstrong Tunnels.

Several teammates, including backup quarterback Charlie Batch, linebacker Joey Porter and safety Mike Logan, arrived at the hospital emergency room but did not comment. The team planned to issue a statement later Monday, but no one from the team would be made available, said spokesman Dave Lockett, who left the hospital at about 2:40 p.m.

Roethlisberger, who led the Steelers to a Super Bowl championship this year, slammed into the windshield, rolled over the car and landed on the pavement, striking his head again, said a woman who witnessed the accident.

The witness, who declined to give her name, asked Roethlisberger several times if he was OK. He eventually replied, "My name is Ben."

He asked: "Where am I?"

"You're at the Armstrong Tunnel," the witness said.

"What city is that in?" he said.

"Pittsburgh," the woman replied.

Roethlisberger fell silent for about a minute and then tried to stand up.

"I'm OK," he said.

"No you're not," said the woman, who instructed him to stay still.

Pittsburgh homicide detectives are investigating the accident, which is standard procedure when critical injuries are involved, said city police Lt. Kevin Kraus.

Roethlisberger's 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa, which is named after a Japanese bird of prey, was totaled. The front wheel was broken in half. The handle bars were broken. The left pedal was shattered. The 170-horsepower bike, which weighs 500 pounds fully loaded, was targeted by law enforcement agencies worldwide after its 1998 debut because it could reach a top speed of 189 mph.

Suzuki Motorcycles of North America gave Roethlisberger the bike as part of a promotional deal in exchange for him appearing at several Suzuki dealerships in the area, including Andrews Cycle in Salem, Ohio where he picked up the motorcycle last summer. Andrews' sales staff declined comment.

The motorcycle is popular among first-time buyers, said Steve Stiller, a salesman at Northgate Motorcycles in Cranberry, Butler County.

Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet.

"He talked about being a risktaker and I'm not really a risktaker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

In May 2005, Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. tore knee ligaments in a motorcycle accident and was lost for the season.

Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.

Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."

Earlier this year, Roethlisberger led the Steelers to the NFL title, giving the team the fifth Super Bowl win they had been chasing since 1980.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[Vintage]

Road rash to the knees requires emergency surgery to the jaw/head?

They're sweatin' and hopin'

No.

Road rash is what the knee injuries supposedly are.

[Chief]

No.

Road rash is what the knee injuries supposedly are.

I know.

My point was that the Steeler fans were trying to minimize the injuries so they can sleep tonight.

[32BellyOption]

From Stan Savran Fox 970. Severe injuries to both knees, Broken jaw, broken sinus cavity, 9 inch laceration back of head

[KD]

POSTED 4:25 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006
CONFLICTING REPORTS ON ROETHLISBERGER

There are conflicting reports from Pittsburgh's two leading papers regarding the severity of the injuries suffered by quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in Monday morning's motorcycle accident.


The Tribune-Review reports that Big Ben has, among other things, two serious knee injuries. The Post-Gazette reports that the team is "encouraged" by reports from Mercy Hospital, and former teammate Jerome Bettis said that he's been told that Ben will be fine (http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06163/697655-100.stm).


A league source told us earlier that Roethlisberger did not have serious injuries, beyond a broken jaw. The source has since told us that he has not been able to confirm reports that Ben has two serious knee injuries.
Stay tuned.

[LeonDixson]

There is a big difference between being an idiot or a moron, and doing something stupid. Everyone of us has done something stupid, but we aren't stupid people. It's called making a stupid decision and we all do it.

Anyone who rides without a helmet is making a stupid decision, but that person may be brilliant in other respects.

As for myself, Hos, whenever I want to feel the wind rushing through my hair, I go for a ride in my '55 chevy convertible. Please ride using a helmet and set a good example for those daughters of yours.

[bbgun]

"Ben Roethlisberger. Quarterback. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him ..."

[Dangerous Dave]

From Stan Savran Fox 970. Severe injuries to both knees, Broken jaw, broken sinus cavity, 9 inch laceration back of head
maybe it's just me, but road rash is not a "severe" knee injury......
it may be severely painful, but I think ACL when I here severe & knee in the same sentence

[KD]

Roethlisberger in surgery after serious motorcycle crash

Monday, June 12, 2006

By Michael A. Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


http://www.post-gazette.com/images/blank.gifhttp://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20060613sm_benwreck02_230.jpg (http://www.post-gazette.com/popup.asp?img=http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20060613sm_benwreck02_450.jpg)http://www.post-gazette.com/images/blank.gifSteve Mellon, Post-Gazette
Pittsburgh Police stand near Ben Roethlisberger's motorcycle, which was heavily damaged when he collided with a car today at the intersection of Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge.







Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was seriously injured and was undergoing surgery after his motorcycle was involved in a crash on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge today.


Dr. Larry Jones of Mercy Hospital addressed the media at 1:25 p.m. and said that Roethlisberger was in serious but stable condition and was headed to surgery. The doctor did not detail the injuries, but KDKA-TV said they included missing teeth, broken bones in his face and head lacerations.


Jones said that Roethlisberger was talking, was coherent and was cognizant of the situation.


Police confirmed Roethlisberger, 24, was not wearing a helmet as he operated his 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa cycle.


Roethlisberger was injured shortly after 11:15 a.m. at the Second Avenue side of the bridge near the Armstrong Tunnel.


One Steelers source said Roethlisberger was in surgery for a broken jaw, an injury that can take approximately seven weeks to heal. The Steelers season starts in 12 weeks.


Steelers president Art Rooney II released a statement this afternoon.
"On behalf of everyone within the Steelers organization, I want to express my concern for Ben Roethlisberger. I am sure Ben knows that we are praying for his complete recovery. So far, we have been encouraged by the early reports from the medical team at Mercy Hospital."


Rooney's statement indicated that the Steelers public relations staff would pass along further updates as they became available.


Retired halfback Jerome Bettis, in California today, was keeping in touch with some people in the organization and said the reports he's received are that Roethlisberger will be fine.


"First, it's good to see he's not in bad shape, as a friend, and to make sure he's OK," said Bettis. "Another good thing is it is minor enough that it shouldn't affect him on the field this fall."


Sandra Ford, a Homewood writer and artist, was waiting for a bus near the bridge about 11 a.m. She saw a rugged-looking white man with curly hair on his motorcycle driving along the avenue heading toward the bridge.
In the opposite direction, a Chrysler was approaching and preparing to make the turn.


"I kept waiting for the motorcyclist to slow down," she said. "He never stopped and just plowed into the car."


The car, a New Yorker with Maine plates, was driven by Martha Fleishman, 62, of Squirrel Hill, who made a left turn toward the bridge in front of the cyclist. The motorcycle hit the car and Roethlisberger flew into the windshield and then hit the ground head first.


Roethlisberger was bleeding heavily from a head injury, and blood pooled on the pavement. The witness said he was not wearing a helmet.


The entire front end of the motorcycle, was destroyed. The car sustained damage on the passenger side door. Fleishman's husband, Martin, confirmed in a telephone interview that his wife was the driver but said the couple didn't want to discuss what happened.


"We really have no statement," Martin Fleishman said. "We certainly hope everything goes well for Mr. Roethlisberger, but we have no other statement. Certainly this is terrible and unfortunate. We hope he has a speedy recovery."


He wouldn't comment on his wife's physical or emotional condition in the wake of the accident other than to say, "She's doing as best as she can."
Ford said she believes Roethlisberger, who wasn't speeding, but going at a pretty good clip, never saw the car. "He had to be looking somewhere else, he just sailed across the intersection."
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Ben Roethlisberger's mother, Brenda Roethlisberger, hurriedly throws her suitcase into her car today so she can travel to get to Pittsburgh.
Click photo for larger image.



It was a crazy scene, said Ford, still shaken from the accident two hours after it happened. At the time of the accident, she did not know it was the Steelers' quarterback. She found out when she got home and saw the TV news.


Ford said that she heard a crunching sound and saw Roethlisberger fly from his motorcycle and into the car.
Afterward, Roethlisberger tumbled off the car and lay still in the street. "He lay so still, I thought he had died."
About 11:23, Ford began taking notes and talking to the driver of the car.


By this time, the driver had gotten from the car and asked Roethliesberger to remain still when he began trying to move.


"His face was all bloody. I saw blood pooling under his head," Ford said.
Police Cmdr. Thomas Stangrecki said that an accident reconstruction team would investigate the cause of the accident. A statement released late this afternoon said the probe was continuing and that no decision had been made about whether charges would be filed.


Police spokeswoman Tammy Ewin also stressed that accident investigations can take "weeks, not hours" to complete.
Roethlisberger has been known to refuse to wear a helmet when operating his cycle.


Steelers coach Bill Cowher addressed the issue with Roethlisberger in May 2005 after Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow's accident riding a Suzuki GSX-R750 in suburban Cleveland. Winslow hit a curb in a parking lot and was ejected from his bike, injuring his knee.


"It's one of those things, where he talked about being a risk-taker and I'm not really a risk-taker, I'm pretty conservative and laid back," Roethlisberger told the Post-Gazette. "So the big thing is just be careful and that's what we do. I think every person that rides is careful. That's the biggest thing, I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we never ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think that makes it more safe."


While Winslow's contract forbade him from riding a motorcycle, Roethlisberger's contract does not prohibit him from riding motorcycles, even helmetless. The standard NFL contract prohibits risky behavior, but that is noat precisely defined. Pennsylvania repealed its mandatory helmet law in 2003.


"I think that's my own discretion," Roethlisberger said about not wearing a helmet when he rides. "Obviously, Pennsylvania doesn't think people need to."


During an interview last year, Steelers Hall-of-Fame quarterback Terry Bradshaw offered one piece of advice for Roethlisberger about his motorcycle.

"Ride it when you retire. That's the way I feel. Those things are dangerous."

[Hostile]

There is a big difference between being an idiot or a moron, and doing something stupid. Everyone of us has done something stupid, but we aren't stupid people. It's called making a stupid decision and we all do it.

Anyone who rides without a helmet is making a stupid decision, but that person may be brilliant in other respects.

As for myself, Hos, whenever I want to feel the wind rushing through my hair, I go for a ride in my '55 chevy convertible. Please ride using a helmet and set a good example for those daughters of yours.I had a convertable. Not near as nasty as yours. It isn't the same.

I've been meaning to get my 2 helmets custom painted. One as the current Cowboys helmet, the other as the white throwback helmet.

Maybe I'd be more inclined to wear one of them.

[InmanRoshi]

Conversely, being intelligent doesn't preclude you from being a moron.

[LeonDixson]

I had a convertable. Not near as nasty as yours. It isn't the same.

I've been meaning to get my 2 helmets custom painted. One as the current Cowboys helmet, the other as the white throwback helmet.

Maybe I'd be more inclined to wear one of them.

It's worth a try. I bet they will look great. You know, I love our current UNI's including the helmet; but that white throwback it beautiful.

[StevenOtero]

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5688078_7_2.jpg
http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5688088_7_2.jpg
http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5688336_7_2.jpg

[juck]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html

his knees are rocked.

[BigDFan5]

No problem.

I finally found it on page 19 lol, It would seem to be an attention whore making it up simply because it also says he bought the bike last month, when reports have now come out that he recived the bike last year for free for doing appearances qat a local dealer :/

[Vintage]

I finally found it on page 19 lol, It would seem to be an attention whore making it up simply because it also says he bought the bike last month, when reports have now come out that he recived the bike last year for free for doing appearances qat a local dealer :/

Ah.

I stopped reading the thread shortly after that post.

[fortdick]

I've been meaning to get my 2 helmets custom painted. One as the current Cowboys helmet, the other as the white throwback helmet.

Maybe I'd be more inclined to wear one of them.

Hos, I don't care if you paint them or not, plz wear one! Who will give me those kind warnings if you aren't here?
:laugh1:

[BigDFan5]

"Ben Roethlisberger. Quarterback. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him ..."

We have the technology

[dgr81]

guys he will miss 7 weeks. his knees are fine, just scraped.

he will be there for opening day.

[FoldedSpace]

IIRC, everytime this happens, they tend to shutdown about any injuries that concern playing career and only report the ones that are life threatening. There are all sorts of reasons, personal and financial among others, that keep them from telling the whole picture until things are pretty clear.

[BigDFan5]

guys he will miss 7 weeks. his knees are fine, just scraped.

he will be there for opening day.

Now place a legitimate link with this info in it, and we will believe you.

[burmafrd]

I saw one that said "sprained knees" which does not sound too bad. Right now he probably will not be able to start the season, but maybe by october he would be back. That is, of course, if there are no complications.

[Hostile]

Hos, I don't care if you paint them or not, plz wear one! Who will give me those kind warnings if you aren't here?
:laugh1:What warnings? Too many concussions. I remember nothing.

:wink2:

I know I need to. Maybe this will be a wake up call. Like I said though, I've even had friends die and it hasn't changed me.

[Dangerous Dave]

guys he will miss 7 weeks. his knees are fine, just scraped.

he will be there for opening day.
I guess they'll just start popping his missing teeth back in to place BEFORE
they even remove the jaw wiring.....and maybe he'll go on the Jerome Bettis
diet so he doesn't lose weight while his jaw is wired shut.

I hope he recovers fully and lectures kids to listen to grown-ups...
We don't always tell you things just because we don't want you to have any fun!
Sometimes it's actually for your own good!!

And I hope BR recovers before the season starts so we can see the Squealers
get beat and not have any excuses.

[parchy]

Yeesh...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Steelers-BIG-BEN-Roethlisberger-Bike-parts-from-wreck_W0QQitemZ9530442367QQihZ007QQcategoryZ1467QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Natedawg44]

At least he has good health insurance unlike most that ride without a helmet.

[Hostile]

Yeesh...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Steelers-BIG-BEN-Roethlisberger-Bike-parts-from-wreck_W0QQitemZ9530442367QQihZ007QQcategoryZ1467QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
That's just wrong.

[Chief]

Yeesh...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Steelers-BIG-BEN-Roethlisberger-Bike-parts-from-wreck_W0QQitemZ9530442367QQihZ007QQcategoryZ1467QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:muttley:

And ya gotta love how the guy keeps saying "I hope Ben is OK," trying to difuse the onslaught of hatred that's about to come his way.

This is the world we live in. Wow.

[5Stars]

:muttley:

And ya gotta love how the guy keeps saying "I hope Ben is OK," trying to difuse the onslaught of hatred that's about to come his way.

This is the world we live in. Wow.

There is always someone trying to make some money off the misfortune of others! I bet he's a lawyer....! :)

:star:

[burmafrd]

Best line William Shakespear ever wrote was from King Henry the VI, I think it was "FIRST KILL ALL THE LAWYERS!!!!"

And to think he wrote that more then 300 years before Johnny Cochran.

[The Realist]

Common sense is not so common.

[Phrozen Phil]

When I see this story, I get a bad feeling in my gut and I have painful memories. I've lost two friends to Bike accidents and neither one was their fault. I notice that people don't give riders enough room on the road in many cases. I always allow for more room for a motorcycle, simply because they appear to be harder to see.
In recent weeks, however, the other side of this issue has come up. I watched in my rear view mirror as a a guy on one of those "crotch rockets" decided to make a run between the lanes in heavy traffic, only to get clipped by an extended mirror on a pick-up. He wasn't really badly hurt, but his bike was a mess. It's a calculated risk, but it's hard to factor in the risk that the other riders or drivers provide. I hope Big Ben will be OK, but I feel for him and his family.

[Cogan]

Yeah, according to a News station here in the Cleveland area, his knees were severely damaged from the impact. I don't understand it. I know when I was young, I did some pretty stupid things, but I didn't have the hopes of a large city riding on my health. I also wasn't being paid millions of dollars to play a game that I loved to play more than anything. If I had had a chance to play QB for an NFL franchise, (especially my Dallas Cowboys), I would have put everything on hold that was remotely dangerous until I retired.

Ben was my favorite player coming out of the draft in 2004. In fact, I was hoping JJ was going to trade up instead of down, once I saw Big Ben fall to the #10 spot. I had watched him play for Miami of Ohio, & knew he was the best QB to come along in a long time. The guy has it all when it comes to playing the position. I was really bummed when the hated Stealers took him the next pick.

Even though he is a Stealer, he is still a great person, and I pray for his speedy recovery. I just hope all young men in this country realize that they are sitting on a missile with wheels, and will at least put on a helmet after reading about this latest debacle.

[5Stars]

When you look at the picture of that wreak, you would have to think that at least his right knee might have gotten screwed up, bad!

Look at the freaking car, where the motorcycle hit! :eek:

[Kangaroo]

When you look at the picture of that wreak, you would have to think that at least his right knee might have gotten screwed up, bad!

Look at the freaking car, where the motorcycle hit! :eek:

Fox has 16 pics of the crash Link for you

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=5688350&pageNumber=16

[DBoys]

Cops don't lie about injuries but the Steelers will.

He could have damage to the brain. He could have memory issues and all sorts of other problems. Anyone saying he will be fine it is mere wishful thinking at this point.

Answer me this how can you have road rash on his knees when you smack the windshield of a stopped car head on? The sort of impact will stop you and he will fail straight back to the ground.

[AbeBeta]

I saw one that said "sprained knees" which does not sound too bad. Right now he probably will not be able to start the season, but maybe by october he would be back. That is, of course, if there are no complications.

A sprained knee is a sprain of the ligament(s) -- the severity of that can range from minor to something more severe to football such as tears of the ACL, MCL, and PCL. It would be surprising if there was a clear indication on this today or even tomorrow. His knees are likely too swollen for an evaluation.

The broken jaw is serious -- that's a good 2 months right there and he'll have issues keeping weight on.

But really -- this is all minor compared to other possible outcomes from such a wreck.

[5Stars]

Fox has 16 pics of the crash Link for you

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=5688350&pageNumber=16

Damn...no, dude, he's messed up, big time! I ride and have had road rash, but, this is a bigtime hit! His right leg has to be hurt more then just some road rash! Maybe his left leg has some road rash! Look at how rough that pavement looks! :eek:


No...he has to be more busted up then what is being reported...


:star:

[Kangaroo]

Damn...no, dude, he's messed up, big time! I ride and have had road rash, but, this is a bigtime hit! His right leg has to be hurt more then just some road rash! Maybe his left leg has some road rash! Look at how rough that pavement looks! :eek:


No...he has to be more busted up then what is being reported...


:star:

This is from ESPN in the article (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830)

ESPN.com's John Clayton has confirmed a report that Roethlisberger also suffered a 9-inch laceration to the back of his head, lost teeth and has knee injuries from hitting the pavement. A plastic surgeon has been called in.

[Chief]

I guess the paramedics scooped up the teeth before the vultures could get them and sell them on ebay.

Imagine Ben having to buy his teeth back.

[5Stars]

I guess the paramedics scooped up the teeth before the vultures could get them and sell them on ebay.

Imagine Ben having to buy his teeth back.


:lmao2: :lmao: :laugh1:

That's wrong and funny at the same time!

:lmao:

Your bad, Chief! :lmao2:

[DefendeR]

Ron Gant
Jeff Kent
Jay Williams
Kellen Winslow Jr.
Ben Roethilsberger

The list of high payed athletes who unwisely ride bikes will grow,because some people never learn.