View Full Version : Joe Theisman is sad
MarionBarberThe4th
06-19-2006, 12:58 AM
This is old and may have been discussed, but I wasnt around a cpu when it happend.
Anyway, back when Sean Taylor hocked a lugie on Micheal Pitman and Theisman went nuts about how unfair the refs were to Taylor on air, and then it was clear to everyone what Taylor did, Theisman kind of just hushed up and didnt take back what he said.
Well the next day in an interview he was asked about the incident with Taylor and Pitman and he said " something we have to look into is if Sean Taylor is a guy who spits when he talks, like Cowher". The guys doing the interview starting laughing, but Theisman kept going on about Taylor being a spit talker....he wasnt joking
Uh-Oh
06-19-2006, 02:00 AM
Now that is pathetic. Does he work for Dan Snyder? He must! I thought all the media hated the Redskins?
Kevin
06-19-2006, 02:16 AM
Now that is pathetic. Does he work for Dan Snyder? He must! I thought all the media hated the Redskins?
I'm not sure how it works. All the media may hate the Redskins, but Theisman obviously has a history with them. The thing is, all Redskins fans hate Theisman! (As a commentator, of course). Irony.
the kid 05
06-19-2006, 02:20 AM
its pretty bad when your old team admits they hate you :)
Star Struck
06-19-2006, 05:59 AM
Well the next day in an interview he was asked about the incident with Taylor and Pitman and he said " something we have to look into is if Sean Taylor is a guy who spits when he talks, like Cowher". The guys doing the interview starting laughing, but Theisman kept going on about Taylor being a spit talker....he wasnt joking
Thats classic!
riggo
06-19-2006, 07:59 AM
he has said things against the redskins and in favor of the cowboys (in a game at RFK years ago where aikman fumbles the ball in the end zone, emmitt tries to scoop in up, skins danny copeland falls on it for the winning score). he said there was no question that it should have been ruled an incomplete forward pass by aikman.
he says crazy things for and against the skins.
BrAinPaiNt
06-19-2006, 08:00 AM
Whether Joe says good or bad for the skins or Cowboys.
Whether I agree with him or disagree with him on any topic.
Joe is, and always will be, a tool...with an annoying voice. :laugh1:
notherbob
06-19-2006, 08:06 AM
Ignorant, bigoted homers with type-A personalities like Theisman drain my enthusiasm for football. Whatever happened to people like Bob Lilly, Roger Stauback, Frank Gifford, Rayfield Wright and Herschell Walker? People who were the best and accepted their talent with self dignity and respect for others? They didn't need to create controversy in order to call attention to themselves, their play did that and they respected their competitors. Little brother, Joe, has a lot to learn.
Yeagermeister
06-19-2006, 08:11 AM
Theesman is no Norman Einstein :D
riggo
06-19-2006, 08:14 AM
Ignorant, bigoted homers
is he a bigot? somebody fill me in.
ABQCOWBOY
06-19-2006, 08:36 AM
The History of Theisman and Washington is an interesting one. I believe Theisman came to Washington in like 74, 75 something like that. When he came to the Skins, the fans didn't like him at all. They liked Jurgensen and Billy Kilmer much better then Theisman. It was not till much later that he was accepted. Don't know I can even say he was loved at any point in his career by the fans. Had he not won a championship, I think he would have been hated for all time by Washington.
Pretty easy to see why IMO. I have no love for the guy. I didn't think he was all that great as a QB. Decent, not great. I never liked him as a player at ND and I think he's terrible as a sports commentator.
Just not much about his career I can look back on and say, "That was exceptional." JMO.
Double Trouble
06-19-2006, 08:54 AM
What is sad is that this place needs to be renamed "Redskins Zone".
Every time I load the page, there's a new Redskin thread up.
The30YardSlant
06-19-2006, 09:01 AM
Joe Theisman is sad
This should be used in Webster's as THE prime example of the word "repetative"
The30YardSlant
06-19-2006, 09:03 AM
is he a bigot? somebody fill me in.
He did use several "questionable" terms to describe black people and, namely, Lawrence Taylor in an interview about his injury several years after it happened. As I recall, he called Taylor a "monkey" who's only place in this game was to "take players out with dirty hits".
Uh-Oh
06-19-2006, 09:15 AM
I'm not sure how it works. All the media may hate the Redskins, but Theisman obviously has a history with them. The thing is, all Redskins fans hate Theisman! (As a commentator, of course). Irony.
Now this I did not know. Cool.
notherbob
06-19-2006, 09:16 AM
is he a bigot? somebody fill me in.
There are many kinds of bigots, racism isn't the only form of bigotry. I am not accusing him of racism, only of being bigoted in favor of one team and not at all open-minded or objective in his discussions about it. Perhaps my using the terms bigot and homer in the same sentence was redundant.
In all fairness, in my opinion, he was a good QB in the Tarkington/Staubach mold but not nearly as good as either one, certainly not a Hall of Famer in my book.
jackrussell
06-19-2006, 10:11 AM
Well the next day in an interview he was asked about the incident with Taylor and Pitman and he said " something we have to look into is if Sean Taylor is a guy who spits when he talks, like Cowher". The guys doing the interview starting laughing, but Theisman kept going on about Taylor being a spit talker....he wasnt joking
Sounds like a Seinfeld episode.
Low talker....close talker...now a spit talker...
He did use several "questionable" terms to describe black people and, namely, Lawrence Taylor in an interview about his injury several years after it happened. As I recall, he called Taylor a "monkey" who's only place in this game was to "take players out with dirty hits".
How is calling someone a monkey racist? I've heard guys called a 'big dumb ox' before. I've heard people called 'little weasels'. Is that racist? Just because you call a human being an animal doesn't mean you're racist. (For the record, I absolutely LOATHE Theisman. I won't throw him under the bus for something he doesn't deserve, though)
Unforgiven
06-19-2006, 10:23 AM
I would crush Theisman if I could. He is abnoxious.
This is a guy who changed the pronounciation of his name from "Theesman" to "Thighsman" because he was in the running for the Heisman Trophy while at ND.
5Stars
06-19-2006, 10:24 AM
The thing is, all Redskins fans hate Theisman! (As a commentator, of course). Irony.
I'm not sure I believe this at all! :eek:
Why don't you go to ES and make a poll, asking
"Do you like Joe Thiesman(sp) as an NFL commentator?
Yes
No
Then bring back a "link" and prove this statement...because I don't buy it!
I could be wrong, but, so could you...
:star:
Uh-Oh
06-19-2006, 10:26 AM
How is calling someone a monkey racist? I've heard guys called a 'big dumb ox' before. I've heard people called 'little weasels'. Is that racist? Just because you call a human being an animal doesn't mean you're racist. (For the record, I absolutely LOATHE Theisman. I won't throw him under the bus for something he doesn't deserve, though)
Well, "monkey" was a word used by the KKK and other hate groups to describe black people way back in the 50's and 60's.
So I think that is what heavyhitta believes Theisman meant went he called LT a "monkey."
Personally, I don't think that is what Theisman meant. I hope so. He's a jerk and a tool. But I haven't heard anything from his lips that suggest he is full of hate. He's just a guy who speaks before thinking.
5Stars
06-19-2006, 10:29 AM
Didn't Howard Cosell get into some sort of trouble for making a statement like that when he was an announcer on MNF?
He said something about a reciever when the reciever caught the ball and started running....something like...."look at the little monkey run..."!
Anyone else remember that?
:star:
The30YardSlant
06-19-2006, 10:34 AM
How is calling someone a monkey racist? I've heard guys called a 'big dumb ox' before. I've heard people called 'little weasels'. Is that racist? Just because you call a human being an animal doesn't mean you're racist. (For the record, I absolutely LOATHE Theisman. I won't throw him under the bus for something he doesn't deserve, though)
"Monkey" is tradionally a deragaroty term for black people, implying they are less than human.
ABQCOWBOY
06-19-2006, 10:36 AM
Didn't Howard Cosell get into some sort of trouble for making a statement like that when he was an announcer on MNF?
He said something about a reciever when the reciever caught the ball and started running....something like...."look at the little monkey run..."!
Anyone else remember that?
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Yes, there was an incident I seem to remember. These things are highly sensative issues that get overly sensitized too often IMO. Not saying it is acceptable to just say anything you want but it is my opinion that the more you give attention to ingonrance, the bigger play it becomes. Ignore the Troll, if you will.
I think back to Jimmy "The Greek" and how his Broadcast career ended and I have to shake my head. This guy, I feel sorry for. He was asked a simple question and he answered in a way that the general public was not ready to accept. It was not wrong and I don't even beleive it to be racially charged but still and all, the answer was not accepted by the public of the time. It was a true answer with facts to substantiate it but it was not acceptable. Sometimes, the best thing any person can do is say nothing.
An art I am still trying to master oft times.
The30YardSlant
06-19-2006, 10:40 AM
Yes, there was an incident I seem to remember. These things are highly sensative issues that get overly sensitized too often IMO. Not saying it is acceptable to just say anything you want but it is my opinion that the more you give attention to ingonrance, the bigger play it becomes. Ignore the Troll, if you will.
I think back to Jimmy "The Greek" and how his Broadcast career ended and I have to shake my head. This guy, I feel sorry for. He was asked a simple question and he answered in a way that the general public was not ready to accept. It was not wrong and I don't even beleive it to be racially charged but still and all, the answer was not accepted by the public of the time. It was a true answer with facts to substantiate it but it was not acceptable. Sometimes, the best thing any person can do is say nothing.
An art I am still trying to master oft times.
That was the biggest crop of crap ever. I will never understand how stating black players are better athletes because of their history and gentics is racist in the least, or could be considered that way. It's a simple fact.
5Stars
06-19-2006, 10:45 AM
Yes, there was an incident I seem to remember. These things are highly sensative issues that get overly sensitized too often IMO. Not saying it is acceptable to just say anything you want but it is my opinion that the more you give attention to ingonrance, the bigger play it becomes. Ignore the Troll, if you will.
I think back to Jimmy "The Greek" and how his Broadcast career ended and I have to shake my head. This guy, I feel sorry for. He was asked a simple question and he answered in a way that the general public was not ready to accept. It was not wrong and I don't even beleive it to be racially charged but still and all, the answer was not accepted by the public of the time. It was a true answer with facts to substantiate it but it was not acceptable. Sometimes, the best thing any person can do is say nothing.
An art I am still trying to master oft times.
ABQ, are you talking about Jimmy commenting on the issue of swimming?
ABQCOWBOY
06-19-2006, 10:58 AM
ABQ, are you talking about Jimmy commenting on the issue of swimming?
That is an over simplification of the whole interview. I believe that was a part of it but that was not it entirely.
Kevin
06-19-2006, 11:07 AM
I'm not sure I believe this at all! :eek:
Why don't you go to ES and make a poll, asking
"Do you like Joe Thiesman(sp) as an NFL commentator?
Yes
No
Then bring back a "link" and prove this statement...because I don't buy it!
I could be wrong, but, so could you...
:star:
I'm not going to ES and making a poll. Enough with the war between ES and CBZ, they are two different establishments. There are morons and intellects there, just as there are morons and intellects here.
I am telling you right now that the majority of Redskins fans find Thiesman obnoxious. As a matter of fact, Theisman is particularly obnoxious regarding the Redskins. He acts as if he has to prove he isn't biased towards the Skins. I don't take anything the bag has to say seriously, so it doesn't bother me.
As a matter of fact, I'm sure it will please you to know that most people I've talked to agree that Aikman/Collinsworth/Buck (I believe thats right?) are the best football crew. Even if Aikman has a small mancrush on Arrington. :rolleyes:
MarionBarberThe4th
06-19-2006, 11:16 AM
BUck tries tii hard to be funny, and Aikman can get a little too chatty, but that was a very good group.
I think Moose is really good too.
Uh-Oh
06-19-2006, 11:18 AM
Even if Aikman has a small mancrush on Arrington. :rolleyes:
That was cruel Kevin. Wicked cruel. :D:D:D
SkinsandTerps
06-19-2006, 11:43 AM
It was Cossell that called Alvin Garrett a monkey on MNF in 83 while playing for the Redskins. His comment was "look at that little monkey go".
Cossell got a lot of flack for the comment but he had said the same think about a white player years earlier; Mike Adamle, RB, KC. The whole thing was blown out of proportion.
I have never heard of any racial or bigoted made by Joey T.
Dumb ones... yes, biased ones... sure, but racist ? Nope.
ConcordCowboy
06-19-2006, 11:49 AM
Ignorant, bigoted homers with type-A personalities like Theisman drain my enthusiasm for football. Whatever happened to people like Bob Lilly, Roger Stauback, Frank Gifford, Rayfield Wright and Herschell Walker? People who were the best and accepted their talent with self dignity and respect for others? They didn't need to create controversy in order to call attention to themselves, their play did that and they respected their competitors. Little brother, Joe, has a lot to learn.
We got one on our team now...Owens!
5Stars
06-19-2006, 12:26 PM
Even if Aikman has a small mancrush on Arrington. :rolleyes:
:lmao:
Well, are you sure about that? Or, did Arrington give Aikman a "small mancrush"? :eek:
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"Monkey" is tradionally a deragaroty term for black people, implying they are less than human.
Calling someone an ox or a weasel is also implying they are less than human...but whatever. I've called guys big gorillas just because they were big and strong. White guys and black guys.
sacase
06-19-2006, 01:09 PM
Calling someone an ox or a weasel is also implying they are less than human...but whatever. I've called guys big gorillas just because they were big and strong. White guys and black guys.
What you are not understanding is that the term was used in the past to degrade black people. If someone said look at the cheetah go, no one would probally take offense, but since monkey has been used as a deogatory term calling a black person a monkey is derogatory:
look up the N word on wiki it gives a good history of it as well as the monkey reference. just FYI.
WoodysGirl
06-19-2006, 01:17 PM
Going back to football...
So can we all agree Joey T. sucks as a commentator?
Yeagermeister
06-19-2006, 01:18 PM
Going back to football...
So can we all agree Joey T. sucks as a commentator?
Yes we can :lmao:
Going back to football...
So can we all agree Joey T. sucks as a commentator?
I still can't believe they're sticking us with him on MNF,,, good grief,,, bring back Dennis Miller, dig up Cossell, ANYTHING, but don't stick us with Freaking Theisman,,,,, I guess the only silver lining is that they didn't stick us with his cohort in stupidity Paul McGuire,,, ay caramba~!
Kevin
06-19-2006, 02:32 PM
Going back to football...
So can we all agree Joey T. sucks as a commentator?
Absolutely.
BrAinPaiNt
06-19-2006, 02:40 PM
I still can't believe they're sticking us with him on MNF,,, good grief,,, bring back Dennis Miller, dig up Cossell, ANYTHING, but don't stick us with Freaking Theisman,,,,, I guess the only silver lining is that they didn't stick us with his cohort in stupidity Paul McGuire,,, ay caramba~!
Agreed. Those two just flat out wear me out.
I hear people complain about madden and they complain about every other guy calling games. You can never make everyone happy.
But by far I would rather listen to any other guys calling the games now compared to Theezman and McGuire.
Heck I would rather hear Madden and Favre in the booth calling games while madden plants hickeys on favres neck.
Joe and Dan...ARRRGGHHHH!!!!
But as I tell others, that is what the mute button is for on the remote.
Renesis
06-19-2006, 03:05 PM
Going back to football...
So can we all agree Joey T. sucks as a commentator?
Oh yes, can't stand listening to him.
I imagine MNF is going to a painful experience this year, but I'm holding onto the hope that perhaps Tony K. will go out of his way to make fun of Theisman as much as possible.
The30YardSlant
06-19-2006, 03:09 PM
Going back to football...
So can we all agree Joey T. sucks as a commentator?
"Understatement" comes to mind....
MONT17
06-19-2006, 03:43 PM
waiting for Joe to change his name to sound like Emmy or Oscar!!!
Joe Thgoldenglobes
The30YardSlant
06-19-2006, 03:59 PM
waiting for Joe to change his name to sound like Emmy or Oscar!!!
Joe Thgoldenglobes
How about something that sounds like "Biggest in the universe"?
Scotman
06-19-2006, 04:06 PM
And his new name shall be known as "Sufferin Sean Succatash"
So it is written. So shall it be done.
God forbid Taylor even come to a sudden stop. Joe's head would get wedged in permanently.
ghst187
06-19-2006, 08:21 PM
I'm not sure how it works. All the media may hate the Redskins, but Theisman obviously has a history with them. The thing is, all Redskins fans hate Theisman! (As a commentator, of course). Irony.
its not that surprising...not very many of us Cowboy fans can stand Troy Aikman doing a Dallas game. He just rips on the Boys the entire game.
the_h0wey
06-19-2006, 10:21 PM
This is old and may have been discussed, but I wasnt around a cpu when it happend.
Anyway, back when Sean Taylor hocked a lugie on Micheal Pitman and Theisman went nuts about how unfair the refs were to Taylor on air, and then it was clear to everyone what Taylor did, Theisman kind of just hushed up and didnt take back what he said.
Well the next day in an interview he was asked about the incident with Taylor and Pitman and he said " something we have to look into is if Sean Taylor is a guy who spits when he talks, like Cowher". The guys doing the interview starting laughing, but Theisman kept going on about Taylor being a spit talker....he wasnt joking
This guy is a complete joke to me. Every time he does a Cowboy game it is clearly evident how biased he is against the Cowboys it makes me freaking sick...
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