Official CEG club.

[Tio]

I am starting the official cut eddie george club. If you want to sign up say it here and give a reason why EG sucks...

[jterrell]

I'm not ready to sign up for the cutting of him but I am ready to sign up for the Start Julius Jones or be ready to duck the flying beer squad.

[Little Jr]

After 1 game and 5 carries?

[DizzG]

Wow..this is insane

one freakin preseason and 5 carries and his entire season is already known?

Back away from the ledge and put down the Kool-Aide

George is not going to be cut

[Tio]

Ahh, so we have the official EG apologists I see? Fine, first order of business for the CEG club, plac a tape recorder in BPs bed that say "Cut eddie george" repetively...If this action does not work, we will repeat this process with a "Don't be a wussy, you know you wantv to" tape...

[DizzG]

well frankly I value Parcells judgement more than anyone around here and he thinks George has some left

time will tell.........

but I can guarantee you Parcells isnt stupid enough to think cutting Eddie George after 5 carries in a MEANINGLESS practice game is a good idea

[jterrell]

well frankly I value Parcells judgement more than anyone around here and he thinks George has some left

time will tell.........

but I can guarantee you Parcells isnt stupid enough to think cutting Eddie George after 5 carries in a MEANINGLESS practice game is a good idea
BP hasnt made a final judgment.

You can look at EG's last 3 seasons to see he only gets 3 ypc. It doesnt take 5 runs to see a guy is slow. After 1 I saw he literally cant outrun me. He is the teams slowest RB and that includes part time FB, Richie Anderson.

I dont think he deserves to be cut but expecting him to start is asking too much of the offense. We will be in 2nd and 3rd and long all season if thats the case.

[dbair1967]

I am starting the official cut eddie george club. If you want to sign up say it here and give a reason why EG sucks...

there are several people who showed that they should probably be cut, but EG wasnt one of them

as long as he doesnt get the bulk of the load I am fine with him being here...was very disappointed he didnt convert the 3rd and 1 (afterall, that is what he is supposed to be here for) but the blocking was pretty lousy on that play (esp Tucker) too...

David

[Cbz40]

I'm not ready to cut EG yet but I will have to admit the running game reminded me of the one we saw last year.

Maybe it's to early to judge but he reminded me of the RB we started last season........What was his name?

By the way the right side of the OL wasn't opening many holes.........this has to get better.

[Eric_Boyer]

no way. cut down on his number of carries I could get behind, but he still provides value.

Plus his signing bonus is already on the books.

[Eric_Boyer]

I'm not ready to cut EG yet but I will have to admit the running game reminded me of the one we saw last year.

Maybe it's to early to judge but he reminded me of the RB we started last season........What was his name?

By the way the right side of the OL wasn't opening many holes.........this has to get better.
That left side sure looks good though.

They would be even better if the right side required more attention.

[Hostile]

I'm not ready to sign up for the cutting of him but I am ready to sign up for the Start Julius Jones or be ready to duck the flying beer squad.
I don't drink, but that's me too. You do need some veteran leadership and he can provide that, but I want Julius to get the vast majority of carries.

[RatisBeast]

I am starting the official cut eddie george club. If you want to sign up say it here and give a reason why EG sucks...
Are you serious ? Get a clue man...

[Sarge]

I am starting the official cut eddie george club. If you want to sign up say it here and give a reason why EG sucks...

So far it looks like a 3 man club. Me, you and Mike Winicki.

[big dog cowboy]

YO!!!!

Right here is another vote. I have 3 reasons.

1. He isn't any kind of big upgrade over THam.

2. He isn't as good as Anderson, Lee or Julius.

3. That stupid contract we signed him to. The second coming of the Deion contract. The only good thing is it is for one year.

[twa]

No way you cut him this early,while the others did look better parcells will give him a opportunity to show what he can do.EG is never going to be a dynamic runner but to call for his release this quick is idiotic. :D

[big dog cowboy]

No way you cut him this early,while the others did look better parcells will give him a opportunity to show what he can do.EG is never going to be a dynamic runner but to call for his release this quick is idiotic. :D

WHOAAAAAA. I don't think he should have been signed at all. More importantly, I resent being called "idiotic". is up with that?

[Tio]

Ok, so Mike sarge and dog are 4 members, we need some more...Did I mention the dental plan?

[flashback]

Eddie George should be here for the exact same reason Vinnie is here: just in case. If Jones busts or gets hurt, we need a guy other than Rashard Lee we can hand the ball to 20+ times per game.

I think Jones moved one more rung up the depth chart last night. We'll see him in the 2nd quarter vs. the Raiders. Maybe by the 3rd PS game, we'll see Julius before we see Eddie.

[Cbz40]

Ok, so Mike sarge and dog are 4 members, we need some more...Did I mention the dental plan?


Will that cover a new set of dentures? :D

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm not ready to sign, but I've taken the cap off my pen...

[big dog cowboy]

Ok, so Mike sarge and dog are 4 members, we need some more...Did I mention the dental plan?

Forget the dental plan, do I get any bonus points for the sign in my front yard? :D

[twa]

WHOAAAAAA. I don't think he should have been signed at all. More importantly, I resent being called "idiotic". is up with that?
Not calling you idiotic just the call to cut someone that just joined the team.How about waiting at least to the cutdown to see what he has.

[LaTunaNostra]

I am starting the official cut eddie george club. If you want to sign up say it here and give a reason why EG sucks...
If you want to start an Official Start JJ club, count me in.

But no way do I want the goal line presence and power of Eddie George cut.

Trust in Bill that the RB by committee approach will utilize the skills of all the runners to best advantage.

Including "Mr Wiggle" below, Reshard Lee.

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/Reshard_1.jpg

[jdnalls]

I'm not ready to sign up for the cutting of him but I am ready to sign up for the Start Julius Jones or be ready to duck the flying beer squad.
Sign me up for the start Julius Club.

Keep George for what he's good at... picking up short yardage. Leave the actual running to Julius.

[LaTunaNostra]

Sign me up for the start Julius Club.

Keep George for what he's good at... picking up short yardage. Leave the actual running to Julius.
That's how I think it plays out.

My one concern is that George may qualify as a "rythem back" to some extent. May need a certain number or carries just to shake the rigor mortis off.

He has never been a favorite of mine, at all, even as a power back..I preferred the Bus. But after Bickerstaff went down, the need was clear. I am happy he is here.

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/Eddie.jpg

[Cbz40]

Sign me up for the start Julius Club.

Keep George for what he's good at... picking up short yardage. Leave the actual running to Julius.



Where do I sign??.........Julius should start no ands, ifs , or buts.....start him now.

[LaTunaNostra]

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/JJ_1.jpg

START ME NOW TUNA, NOW!!!!


Where do I sign??.........Julius should start no ands, ifs , or buts.....start him now.

[Cbz40]

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/JJ_1.jpg

START ME NOW TUNA, NOW!!!!


LOL!!!! I would bet the Tuna will start him......he's slowly and meticulously moving him into that role.

[big dog cowboy]

Not calling you idiotic just the call to cut someone that just joined the team.How about waiting at least to the cutdown to see what he has.

OK that's cool.

But "what he has" has not changed in the last 2-3 years. :(

[big dog cowboy]

If you want to start an Official Start JJ club, count me in.


Been a charter member since.....draft day! :)

[LaTunaNostra]

LOL!!!! I would bet the Tuna will start him......he's slowly and meticulously moving him into that role.
Cbz, I can't wait til 1 PM tomorrow to see JJ run....will I see Curtis Martin II? If so, he is starting.

Sure, there is a lot to be both disappointed about and worried about after last night's showing. But from what I've read, the first team oline looked okay (my biggest concern - running to the right sounds problematical again tho, but I don't see anyone ragging on the first team pass protection).

THREE of the critical rooks had good games. DH, JJ and Patrick Crayton. Three key young players. Peterman struggled, evidently, but that's to be somewhat expected. Hunter's performance seem to be qualifed by safely play.

Let Zimmer slap his guys around this week - no excuses being made here but it sounds to me that Dallas was treating the game like a glorified practice, and the Texans playing their game. Did we play any 3-4 fronts last night?

[Double Trouble]

George just can't get it done any longer. His last 3 seasons? 3.0, 3.4, 3.3 (yds per carry). He's never been a top-tier back, but what skill he had (his power) has deserted him.

If he gets more than a few carries per game, we're doing the other team a favor.

[RatisBeast]

You can sign me up for the start julius club, but not for the cut eddie george. He only carried about 5 times and you guys want to axe him. I wonder if skins fan's are thinking the same with Portis. :rolleyes:

[Cbz40]

Cbz, I can't wait til 1 PM tomorrow to see JJ run....will I see Curtis Martin II? If so, he is starting.

Sure, there is a lot to be both disappointed about and worried about after last night's showing. But from what I've read, the first team oline looked okay (my biggest concern - running to the right sounds problematical again tho, but I don't see anyone ragging on the first team pass protection).

THREE of the critical rooks had good games. DH, JJ and Patrick Crayton. Three key young players. Peterman struggled, evidently, but that's to be somewhat expected. Hunter's performance seem to be qualifed by safely play.

Let Zimmer slap his guys around this week - no excuses being made here but it sounds to me that Dallas was treating the game like a glorified practice, and the Texans playing their game. Did we play any 3-4 fronts last night?

I have two main concerns......well 3.

The right side of the OL Adams and LA will be fine.

The absence of Woody the team leader on D. His presence makes a big difference in that young secondary.

Vinny must stay healthy for at least 8 games. Henson will be a good QB but he needs some seasoning.

Yes, we did show the 3-4 front on several occasions last night.

[DizzG]

there is a HUGE difference in wanting to start JJ and CUTTING George

Parcells isnt going to cut Eddie George.

George still has value and Parcells has said as much. He will get carries this year. I think JJ will start at some point but Parcells is going to spread the carries over several players imo

[LaTunaNostra]

I have two main concerns......well 3.

The right side of the OL Adams and LA will be fine.

The absence of Woody the team leader on D. His presence makes a big difference in that young secondary.

Vinny must stay healthy for at least 8 games. Henson will be a good QB but he needs some seasoning.

Yes, we did show the 3-4 front on several occasions last night.

Those are my top three too, Cbz. I'm not so worried about Vin staying healthy so much as I am about his infernal "rust". For a QB with his amount of experience, he take an inordinate amount of time to feel comfy with anything new. He said the offensive system here was only "35 percent" of what Bill ran in NY. That means he got 65 % adjusting to do.

Woody can't get back soon enough. Hunter WILL need some early season baby-sitting. Who's gonna do it if not Darren?

Here's hoping!

[Dallas]

If you want to start an Official Start JJ club, count me in.

But no way do I want the goal line presence and power of Eddie George cut.

Trust in Bill that the RB by committee approach will utilize the skills of all the runners to best advantage.

Including "Mr Wiggle" below, Reshard Lee.

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/Reshard_1.jpg

Im with Herms. Eddie is here for a reason. I dont think we will see him get the bulk of the carries this year. I think the next few games you will see JJ and RL running more with the 1st team.

Eddie is already on the books. He provides great veteran leadership for the younger players. He has been in huge games and can pass that on to them. I think he can still be the power back he was signed to be. Not getting that 3rd and 1 was not his fault. Replay that whole play and you can flat out see the horrid blocking.

The guy had 5 carries. That certainly is nothing to go by.

Stop crying wolf.


I was pretty impressed with JJ and Reshard. Glad they wear the star.

[rjh]

the new backs, drafted and especially the undrafted rookies. We were so used to 3 yards here and there, the trips, etc. When he finally broke a 5 yard run, Titan's fans were estactic.

I think Eddie really messed up leaving Tenn with a guaranteed starting position and carries.

I hope he does get better because he is a quality person and very good in the locker room.

Do you really think he could be cut?

[Tio]

the new backs, drafted and especially the undrafted rookies. We were so used to 3 yards here and there, the trips, etc. When he finally broke a 5 yard run, Titan's fans were estactic.

I think Eddie really messed up leaving Tenn with a guaranteed starting position and carries.

I hope he does get better because he is a quality person and very good in the locker room.

Do you really think he could be cut?You a titan fan?

[Mike 1967]

I am starting the official cut eddie george club. If you want to sign up say it here and give a reason why EG sucks...

I agree

I base my opinion on the same set of facts that caused the Titans to allow him to go. I also base it on what I saw with my own eyes on Saturday.

Living in Austin I have heard the comments of a lot of Houston fans. They love Eddie...but like Emmit he is past his prime. The game is too fast for him.

Call me insane....but most here will have the same the opinion by the end of preseason. The more he plays the more obvious it will become.

[Mike 1967]

So far it looks like a 3 man club. Me, you and Mike Winicki.

Sarge....no worries.

There will be more members in about 4 weeks. The more time goes by...the more members we have. It will grow because of 3 reasons.

(1) Julius is the real deal and will prove it on the field.
(2) Reshard is the real deal and will prove it on the field.
(3) EG is slow and will prove it on the field.

I love EG as a person. I was extremely excited when we signed him....but I know what I saw.

It didn't take me 2 games to realize Emmitt was the real deal. I personally knew he was the real deal the first time he played. His balance and ability to turn a 2 yard play into a 4 yard play was amazing. The first tackler never brought him down and his balance was awesome. I didn't realize how great he would be....but I did realize he was the real deal. It is not that difficult to evaluate a back.

[OILERMAN]

As a Titan fan I find it hilarious the Cowboys spent 2.2 mill on Eddie George, he's been done for 3 years now.

The Titans are a much better team without Eddie George.

[trickblue]

As a Titan fan I find it hilarious the Cowboys spent 2.2 mill on Eddie George, he's been done for 3 years now.

The Titans are a much better team without Eddie George.

Wow... haven't seen a fan of the Baby Blues around here before... welcome...

Where is Winicki? He is gonna be P.O.'ed he wasn't THE charter member of the CEG Club...

[Danny White]

Can we start a club for people who overreact to the first preseason game? :D


BTW, when will Jerry get off his @ss and induct Patrick Crayton in the ring of honor?

[Mike 1967]

Can we start a club for people who overreact to the first preseason game? :D


BTW, when will Jerry get off his @ss and induct Patrick Crayton in the ring of honor?

Your so cool and funny

[starfrombirth]

I have to say that i will join and be an outspoken member. I said before we signed him that this was the stupidest move we have EVER made, and I still feel that way. Why in the world would we pay MORE for a SLOWER less productive back than THAMBONE. I agree that Eddie is a quality guy but I dont think he was needed to teach JJ how to prepare for the NFL (Remember his brother who he worked out with? Thomas Jones?). He wasn't good for the tough yards in Tennessee and he won't be any better here. The unfortunate thing is that we will have to learn that collectively the hard way....Bring on JJ! :D

[Skeptic]

Anybody else see the pointlessness of a whole thread just to bash a player that likely won't start and will only help us as the year goes on?

Good God there are some boooored posters around here.

[VirusX]

Time to get my tard bashing club out for the CEG Club.

[Bobo]

Anybody else see the pointlessness of a whole thread just to bash a player that likely won't start and will only help us as the year goes on?

Good God there are some boooored posters around here.

EG has taken (and still takes) the same jabs thrown at him on Titan's mb's. There's a guy in particular that loves bashing him and loves seeing him do bad that has posted in this thread just to take another jab at EG.

Maybe some people just need to find more hobbies to keep their minds off of EG :cool:

[VirusX]

some people on here just annoy the **** outta me with their pointless *****ing.

No ones ever good enough for this team unless they are better the aikman irvin and emmitt. We got spoiled get the **** over it and stop nit picking. EG played 1 game in PRESEASON and took 5 ****ing snaps. Who the **** are you to say how good he is or is not. 8 years amassing 10,000 yards is pretty damn good to me.

You dont like EG? Dont ****ing watch the game then.

[Mike 1967]

some people on here just annoy the **** outta me with their pointless *****ing.

No ones ever good enough for this team unless they are better the aikman irvin and emmitt. We got spoiled get the **** over it and stop nit picking. EG played 1 game in PRESEASON and took 5 ****ing snaps. Who the **** are you to say how good he is or is not. 8 years amassing 10,000 yards is pretty damn good to me.

You dont like EG? Dont ****ing watch the game then.

I think it's ironic that someone would spend this much energy and emotion to tell somebody else that they were taking something way to seriously.

Webster should take a snapshot of this and put it under the word IRONY.

We hear what your saying dude......just can't figure out why you don't hear it

[Mike 1967]

some people on here just annoy the **** outta me with their pointless *****ing.

No ones ever good enough for this team unless they are better the aikman irvin and emmitt. We got spoiled get the **** over it and stop nit picking. EG played 1 game in PRESEASON and took 5 ****ing snaps. Who the **** are you to say how good he is or is not. 8 years amassing 10,000 yards is pretty damn good to me.

You dont like EG? Dont ****ing watch the game then.


Let me help you out a little bit. This might save you some frustration in the future.

This is a FORUM (Def: A public meeting place for open discussion.)

People come here to share thier OPINIONS (Def: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof)

People come here to DEBATE (Def: To engage in argument by discussing opposing points. )

You will not agree with everyone's elses opinions. This is actually what makes the FORUM interesting. If we all had the same opinion....then we would not need a FORUM.

If opposing opinions piss you off....then you probably need to stay away from forums....unless you enjoy getting pissed off.

[VirusX]

Nay, This thread is the reason I RARELY cheack the smack talk zone. This belongs under that forum not here. This is taking trash about a cowboys player so It needs to be moved to the forum for this type of post.

[Mike 1967]

Nay, This thread is the reason I RARELY cheack the smack talk zone. This belongs under that forum not here. This is taking trash about a cowboys player so It needs to be moved to the forum for this type of post.


If this were the definition of Smack Talk then over half of the threads would be moved.

Nice try...but I know you can do better.

[Tricked]

it's threads like this that make me enjoy watching a chess match between two people who dont know a knight moves in an L shape and a pawn is expendable

[Skeptic]

some people on here just annoy the **** outta me with their pointless *****ing.

No ones ever good enough for this team unless they are better the aikman irvin and emmitt. We got spoiled get the **** over it and stop nit picking. EG played 1 game in PRESEASON and took 5 ****ing snaps. Who the **** are you to say how good he is or is not. 8 years amassing 10,000 yards is pretty damn good to me.

You dont like EG? Dont ****ing watch the game then.

LOL.

Whew. That is one piiiiissssed Dallas fan.

[Mike 1967]

it's threads like this that make me enjoy watching a chess match between two people who dont know a knight moves in an L shape and a pawn is expendable


That does sound exciting.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Let me help you out a little bit. This might save you some frustration in the future.

This is a FORUM (Def: A public meeting place for open discussion.)

People come here to share thier OPINIONS (Def: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof)

People come here to DEBATE (Def: To engage in argument by discussing opposing points. )

You will not agree with everyone's elses opinions. This is actually what makes the FORUM interesting. If we all had the same opinion....then we would not need a FORUM.

If opposing opinions piss you off....then you probably need to stay away from forums....unless you enjoy getting pissed off.

Sanctimonious crap.

He is right. Fine, George is not as good as Jones. To just assume that he is better than Lee and Cason is stupid.

Yes you heard me right, ye of the cut George squad. Lets cut George so we can make way for Cason. Oh wait... how about Barnes... no, Polite. Oh wait this entire thread and or idea is dumb.

The IQ level really has gone down since BigDBoys days. This is just sad.

Sensational, reactionary, or inflammatory is half the trash posted.

Here is another thing ye of the facetious. Nors has been so very right about calling personnel and strategy decisions that Parcells has implemented. Sure he may be a bit over the top about the 3-4 but is Obobogu being tried out at LB or not?

The same people that ridicule him are having a moron fest here.

I ask you who really is deserving of ridicule?

[CanadianTitansFan]

Lifetime Oiler/Titan fan here.

Ed George has the worst YPC over 1000 carries than any other RB in the HISTORY of the NFL. Based on his last 1000 carries. This depite the fact I happen to think we have one of the best run blocking OLines in the NFL and teams are in Dime all the time trying to defend McNair.

Does that help crystallise things for you?

He has averaged over 4 yards per carry twice in his 9 year career. He was a system back, who was drafted by the perfect coach, by the perfect team, who were just looking for a workhorse to protect their young project QB and defense. He came into the league with a golden parachute.


I respect him for his durability. That's it. You could have drafted Hambrick in 96 instead, and had he stayed healthy, he could have put up similar numbers. Ed is a glorified Stacey Mack, Tyrone Wheatley guy.

He was never fast and now it's just ugly. He never ran with leverage (he was one of the worst backs in the league at converting 3rd and short last year). He never had vision. He never made big plays. We just gave it to him 30 times a game and he fell forward enough to put up some great numbers.

He tends to be a pretty polarising figure. He's a camera guy who's pretty media savvy. He will win sympathy and patience fromn the fans who gobble that up. The more serious football fans will be pulling their hair out.

Fisher's one fault is he tends to stick with guys too long. He has loyalty to the guys he won with. It's hard to make changes when you win 11-12 games a year. He did it with Matthews, Del Greco, Ed, etc...

Thank God Ed's delusional egomania got in the way and he's your problem now.

The only way I see him sticking wsith you guys is if Jones and Parcells are reluctant to admit to their mistake so soon.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Lifetime Oiler/Titan fan here.

Ed George has the worst YPC over 1000 carries than any other RB in the HISTORY of the NFL. Based on his last 1000 carries. This depite the fact I happen to think we have one of the best run blocking OLines in the NFL and teams are in Dime all the time trying to defend McNair.

Does that help crystallise things for you?

He has averaged over 4 yards per carry twice in his 9 year career. He was a system back, who was drafted by the perfect coach, by the perfect team, who were just looking for a workhorse to protect their young project QB and defense. He came into the league with a golden parachute.


I respect him for his durability. That's it. You could have drafted Hambrick in 96 instead, and had he stayed healthy, he could have put up similar numbers. Ed is a glorified Stacey Mack, Tyrone Wheatley guy.

He was never fast and now it's just ugly. He never ran with leverage (he was one of the worst backs in the league at converting 3rd and short last year). He never had vision. He never made big plays. We just gave it to him 30 times a game and he fell forward enough to put up some great numbers.

He tends to be a pretty polarising figure. He's a camera guy who's pretty media savvy. He will win sympathy and patience fromn the fans who gobble that up. The more serious football fans will be pulling their hair out.

Fisher's one fault is he tends to stick with guys too long. He has loyalty to the guys he won with. It's hard to make changes when you win 11-12 games a year. He did it with Matthews, Del Greco, Ed, etc...

Thank God Ed's delusional egomania got in the way and he's your problem now.

The only way I see him sticking wsith you guys is if Jones and Parcells are reluctant to admit to their mistake so soon.


Not going to comment on your post as I agree with some of it and disagree with some of it.

The part that was best about what I gained from your posting on the forum....was your sigline.

Earl the Pear, the Tyler rose was probably my favorite RB of all time....sure I still love "Touchdown" Tony D. (actually liked Tony more then emmitt) and still like Emmitt and other great backs.

But Earl was just the man...the best combination of speed, power I have ever seen from a RB....and from all accounts I have read of those who have known him off the field....one of the classiest guys you will ever meet.

[CanadianTitansFan]

Not going to comment on your post as I agree with some of it and disagree with some of it.

The part that was best about what I gained from your posting on the forum....was your sigline.

Earl the Pear, the Tyler rose was probably my favorite RB of all time....sure I still love "Touchdown" Tony D. (actually liked Tony more then emmitt) and still like Emmitt and other great backs.

But Earl was just the man...the best combination of speed, power I have ever seen from a RB....and from all accounts I have read of those who have known him off the field....one of the classiest guys you will ever meet.

Thanks Bud!

Yes...we'll never see another one quite liike Earl. Sad to see him now... but the way he ran I guess you can't expect anything else. The best is listening to the stories from guys who played with the man. I read "Snake" recently (Ken Stabler) and he says Earl was by far the best football player he ever saw. He said though that he would often hand the ball off to Earl and close his eyes cause it was like watching a train wreck.

Little story about Earl and Tony D...

He's often asked if he was ever looking over his shoulder at any other backs when he was universally considered the best back in the league. He nalways says no...except for Tony. Earl considered Texas HIS turf, and he didn't want any other runner be close to him on Texas turf. The first thing he'd find out after his game every week was how many yards Tony ran for.

[VirusX]

I guess after eddie's runs the CEG Club is breaking up? Lets all jump on the EG bandwagon after the impressive performance against the raiders. Its time to form.... the KEG Club, yes thats right. Keep Eddie George Club!