larry allen>erik williams??

[stealth]

everyone and there brother including myself talks about larry allen as one of the best lineman ever in the league.
I was just thinking though that in his prime erik willaims was a bad bad man.
I wonder what others think...
prime of his career I actually think erik was a better player, but he didn't last like allen has or had.
whatchu think?

[2233boys]

everyone and there brother including myself talks about larry allen as one of the best lineman ever in the league.
I was just thinking though that in his prime erik willaims was a bad bad man.
I wonder what others think...
prime of his career I actually think erik was a better player, but he didn't last like allen has or had.
whatchu think?
You are nuts...

LA could play both positions and actually was a pro bowler at Tackle and Guard. LA was the best. Without question

[speedkilz88]

I would say BigE would be considered better if not for the car accident. I think those that doubt that are too young to have seen him in his prime. What he did to Reggie White was amazing.

[2233boys]

I would say BigE would be considered better if not for the car accident. I think those that doubt that are too young to have seen him in his prime. What he did to Reggie White was amazing.
LOL


Suffice to say you are wrong on every point, save the Reggie White comment..

I have been a Cowboys fan for 26years, and LA was the best I ever saw... Williams was good, but wasn't Larry Allen Good...

[stealth]

recent years have made me doubt the merrits of being a pro bowler.
people just vote for familiar names and media favs more than the best players.

[Chuck 54]

everyone and there brother including myself talks about larry allen as one of the best lineman ever in the league.
I was just thinking though that in his prime erik willaims was a bad bad man.
I wonder what others think...
prime of his career I actually think erik was a better player, but he didn't last like allen has or had.
whatchu think?
I'll keep it simple:

In his best years, Eric Williams was considered one of the best RT's in the game, which in itself is far less than being the best OT as LT's are considered greater...Big E had some fine years, but no one ever talked about him as one of the great all time linemen in the NFL, no one.

Larry Allen went through a period of time where he was not only considered the best offensive lineman in the NFL, but some actually considered whether or not he was the best player at any position in the NFL for about 3 years. Even now, he will be discussed as a sure thing Hall of Famer on the first ballot and gets strong consideration in any discussion of the best ever offensive lineman.

End of discussion...Big E in his best year ever never fit that description.

[cowboyjoe]

No, I disagree, Erik Williams was the prime best OT in the league, easily compated to Orlando Pace of Rams, before Erik tore up his knee in a stupid car accident. Even John Madden said he was best pure linemen in the league, before he tore up his knee.

Granted, Larry Allen played both positions, and lasted longer, Erik did play about 10 years best I remember, you got to remember, I am sure all of you agree that the Minister of Defense Reggie White was best in the league as a defensive linemen.

Even the Minister taught Larry Allen the hump move, but against Erik Williams after his rookie year, Erik opened huge holes against Reggie White in the Phily games and the playoff games. And Erik Williams pretty well dominated Buffalo Bills great defensive end too.

If Erik Williams hadnt gone on that crazy racing speed in his car, and tore up his knee, I think Dallas would still have won another super bowl after the 95 one because, as I agree about Larry Allen, you would still have 2 great dominant offensive linemen together Larry Allen and Erik Williams together.

Another thing to remember, and if he hadnt tore up his knee when the Jacksonville Jaquars tried to trade for him, they would have traded their # 1 for him, not the number 2 they tried to trade for him. Jerry Jones would only accept a # 1 though, which didnt get done, and then we lost Erik Williams for nothing in a draft pick.

So, to me, Erik Williams was the best offensive linemen we had, they even if you remember made a special rule against him in blocking, going to the throat. YOU dont make rules against a player, unless he is superior to other players. IN fact, the hands to the throat was called the Erik Williams rule, just like they made the rule about taking off your helmet against mainly Emmitt Smith. Which to me was stupid.

Just my opinion, but when you blocked against Reggie White and Buffalo Bills dominant DE and block them pretty well, then you are dominant.

[scottsp]

Before EWI had his mishap on the tollway, he was widely regarded as the best offensive lineman in football. He would make the best pass rushers in the league absolutely disappear.

Certainly Larry Allen is also an all-time great in his own right. For me, he gets the nod due to his longevity and versatility. Other than that, they were comparable talents.

Both were on their way to Canton, IMO.

[stealth]

I'll keep it simple:

In his best years, Eric Williams was considered one of the best RT's in the game, which in itself is far less than being the best OT as LT's are considered greater...Big E had some fine years, but no one ever talked about him as one of the great all time linemen in the NFL, no one.

Larry Allen went through a period of time where he was not only considered the best offensive lineman in the NFL, but some actually considered whether or not he was the best player at any position in the NFL for about 3 years. Even now, he will be discussed as a sure thing Hall of Famer on the first ballot and gets strong consideration in any discussion of the best ever offensive lineman.

End of discussion...Big E in his best year ever never fit that description.

would seem to me you need to be around as long as larry has been and be as good as he was for as long as he was to be mentioned.

I am talking one year best year for best year I think erik was the better player.

now long term allen owns him all day long but best year for best year erik still leads in my mind

[cowboyjoe]

Another thing to remember, when Dallas won their first 2 super bowls, and playoff titles, Jerry Jones stated reason why was because of players like Charles Haley, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Michael Irwin and Erik Williams, notice he did not mention Larry Allen, he was just coming into his own in 95, but Jerry Jones said because of the Erik Williams on our team.

[Deane62]

Another thing to remember, when Dallas won their first 2 super bowls, and playoff titles, Jerry Jones stated reason why was because of players like Charles Haley, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Michael Irwin and Erik Williams, notice he did not mention Larry Allen, he was just coming into his own in 95, but Jerry Jones said because of the Erik Williams on our team.

Probably because LA wasn't on the team for the first two super bowls

[stealth]

Probably because LA wasn't on the team for the first two super bowls

lol,
still doesnt change that he wasnt mentioned

[Chocolate Lab]

I'll keep it simple:

In his best years, Eric Williams was considered one of the best RT's in the game, which in itself is far less than being the best OT as LT's are considered greater...Big E had some fine years, but no one ever talked about him as one of the great all time linemen in the NFL, no one.

Larry Allen went through a period of time where he was not only considered the best offensive lineman in the NFL, but some actually considered whether or not he was the best player at any position in the NFL for about 3 years. Even now, he will be discussed as a sure thing Hall of Famer on the first ballot and gets strong consideration in any discussion of the best ever offensive lineman.

End of discussion...Big E in his best year ever never fit that description.I agree...

[2233boys]

Another thing to remember, when Dallas won their first 2 super bowls, and playoff titles, Jerry Jones stated reason why was because of players like Charles Haley, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Michael Irwin and Erik Williams, notice he did not mention Larry Allen, he was just coming into his own in 95, but Jerry Jones said because of the Erik Williams on our team.
Because LA didn't get drafted until after the first two superbowls


I can't even believe this is a discussion and that people are agreeing with the originator of this threads assertion. Wow, just wow.

By the way LA was considered the best offensive lineman in all of football, Williams at one time maybe the best RT. Now regarding the John Madden comment :lmao: you have to remember Madden is an idiot and still thinks Farve is God.

[Cbz40]

I'll keep it simple:

In his best years, Eric Williams was considered one of the best RT's in the game, which in itself is far less than being the best OT as LT's are considered greater...Big E had some fine years, but no one ever talked about him as one of the great all time linemen in the NFL, no one.

Larry Allen went through a period of time where he was not only considered the best offensive lineman in the NFL, but some actually considered whether or not he was the best player at any position in the NFL for about 3 years. Even now, he will be discussed as a sure thing Hall of Famer on the first ballot and gets strong consideration in any discussion of the best ever offensive lineman.

End of discussion...Big E in his best year ever never fit that description.


Game, set, match......:)

[stealth]

erik williams in his prime played in a different league than larry allen in his prime

its not a black and white case as is implied by so many on this thread

[CrazyCowboy]

Eric "illegal use of the hands" Williams was a great player in his prime and if not for the car wreck and other issues he had outside of football.....who knows how good he was......BUT L.A. is hands down the best!

[dbair1967]

erik williams in his prime played in a different league than larry allen in his prime

its not a black and white case as is implied by so many on this thread

Erik Williams was a great, great player in 1992, 93 and pre-injury 1994, but after that he was simply an above average to good player

Larry Allen is considered by most experts to be the best OL in NFL History and for a long period (95-01) the most dominant player in the league at any position...he will be a sure fire first ballot hall of famer, its doubtful Erik Williams will ever get in...let alone on a first ballot

David

[lane]

they were both great players at their respected positions..

larry allen in his prime was one of .......if not the best guards to ever play this game.

[sillycon]

Going by the intent of the original poster, I'd say it was pretty even when you compare LA's prime with EW's prime. The way Erik made pass rushers disappear was amazing. Even more amazing was the way he handled Reggie White. Teams usually had to double team Reggie White but Erik Williams manhandled him one on one... Larry Allen's amazing athleticism was a thing of beauty. Watching him pull and obliterate his guy was downright awesome. Obviously, one has to select LA when the question pertains to their entire respective careers. However, as mentioned previously, in their prime I'd be hard pressed to select one over the other...

[Zaxor]

I agree with Mr. Motley...

[Rack Bauer]

larry allen>erik williams??


By a long shot.


Erik Williams in his prime was one of the top 3 OTs in the league, possibly even THE best in the league.


Larry Allen in his prime is the best offensive lineman in NFL history.



Anyone that disagrees is flat out wrong.