Has the Proverbial "Window" Really Closed for the Philadelphia Eagles!

[Phoenix-Talon]

You've heard it said ... that the reason the Eagles dominated the NFC-East between 2000 - 2004, is because the rest of the NFC-E was weak during those days. They said that the proverbial "window" has closed for the Eagles franchise because the rest of the NFC-East has coaght up in quality and talent.

But what if the NFC-East was never weak! What is the NFC-East was just as strong then as it is now?! That would really place a fly in the ointment. Well ...that;s exactly what I'm saying!

Did a little research on NFC Standings between the year 2002 - 2005. Here are the numbers:

2002 - 2005 NFC Standings

#1 - NFC-East

2002: 34 games won (placed #1 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (tied all in NFC)
2004: 31 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2005: 36 games won (placed #1 in NFC)

#2 - NFC-South

2002: 31 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (placed - even thru-out the NFC)
2004: 31 games won (tied 2nd with NFC-E)
2005: 33 games won (placed #2 in NFC)

#3 - NFC-North

2002: 25 games won (placed #4 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (placed - even thru-out the NFC)
2004: 35 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2005: 29 games won (placed #1 in NFC)

#4 - NFC-West

2002: 29 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (placed - even thru-out the NFC)
2004: 25 games won (placed #4 in NFC)
2005: 28 games won (placed #4 in NFC)

According to the numbers/outcomes ...the NFC-East has consistent produced more wins than any conference opponent teams. Now that either means that the NFC-East has never been weak or ...that the NFC has been weak.

That said, the question remains ...if the NFC-East has always been strong, has everyone underestimated the proverbial Eagles window ...and was 2005 a peak at a deteriorating Eagles or a team hit with a plethora of injuries?

IMOHO ...I Believe we won't really know any of that until the regular season starts. I'm not in the predicitng business ...but I am optimistic that the Eagles will be much, much stronger than many of you believe.

[Vintage]

In 2003, we won 10 games.

And that was ONLY bec. our division was weak, as well as the NFC in general.

A third of the wins from the NFC East came from a team that wasn't really that good.

But I guess you could argue its irrelevant, bec. for that season, we were winning.

[gbrittain]

I do not think that the Eagles window has closed just yet, but I will say this season will tell us for sure if the Eagles still have it or not.

Regardless of any numbers the NFCE has been putrid for years. Nothing will change that fact. It is not a slight against Philly, it is just the truth. When is the last time you could make a good case for any of the teams to win the Division?

[illone]

Put it this way, the Eagles then are like the Seahawks now. Both teams benefited from a weak division and like you said the NFC in general hasn't been as strong as the AFC in recent years. The Eagles are now on the outside looking in and don't have 4-5 rollover games against weaker, building teams within the division.

I think the Eagles need a running game if they want to contend again.

[Hostile]

Getting McNabb back healthy and the Draft that they had? No, I don't think they're quite flat lining yet. They'll have to adjust to life with lesser WRs, and likely will rely more on the run, but it's a well coached team with talent.

[Phoenix-Talon]

In 2003, we won 10 games.And that was ONLY bec. our division was weak, as well as the NFC in general.

Whoa ...slow down. I believe you! You're talking about your team I'm talking about our division collectively.

[QUOTE] But I guess you could argue its irrelevant, bec. for that season, we were winning

You haven't even come close to this topic. Alright your team was the best in the East. :rolleyes: :confused:

[AtlCB]

#1 - NFC-East

2002: 34 games won (placed #1 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (tied all in NFC)
2004: 31 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2005: 36 games won (placed #1 in NFC)

To be more accurate, you should take out the Eagles records.

2002: 22 games won
2003: 19 games won
2004: 18 games won
2005: 30 games won

I would say there is a huge difference.

[CowboysFaninDC]

I think the eagles for several years had 6 easy games to allow them to win the division and get home field in the playoffs, which always helps in the cold northeast in january.

but with washington, giants and dallas loading up, they won't have 6 easy victories and have to battle to get to 3-3 against those teams, which makes the rest of their schedule even more important and tougher.

they can't cruise to playoffs anymore and they might struggle to get to 9-7 and miss the playoffs. I don't see them as a dominant force any longer, plus their team is starting to get older.

[Phoenix-Talon]

[quote=gbrittain]I do not think that the Eagles window has closed just yet, but I will say this season will tell us for sure if the Eagles still have it or not.

I'll Buy Into that ...only because it makes sense; not Because I'm an Eagles fan. Now everyone has made strides to improve upon areas they felt needed strengthening. This year will definitle show that the NFC-East is the dominant division in our conference ...once again!

Regardless of any numbers the NFCE has been putrid for years. Nothing will change that fact.

I hear what you're saying, but you aren't backing it up with anything ...no offense. I have to respectfully disagree, unless you come up with the evidence to support your claim ...otherwise it's all pontification and opinionated.

[REDVOLUTION]

:yousuck:
Why has an eagles thread been started at CowboysZone.com ?


:bang2:
:trophy:
:suxskins:
:suxiggle:
:suxjints:
:whip:
:chainsaw:
:splat:
:lombardi:

[Phoenix-Talon]

Put it this way, the Eagles then are like the Seahawks now. Both teams benefited from a weak division and like you said the NFC in general hasn't been as strong as the AFC in recent years. The Eagles are now on the outside looking in and don't have 4-5 rollover games against weaker, building teams within the division. I think the Eagles need a running game if they want to contend again.

Your opinion is understandable, but your logic is soiled. I mean come on, while I can sit here and say that TO is going to bring an improvement to your offense, by contributing to reception yardage; yet, not like the player, that says volumes to your ability to look beyond the need to demonstrate poor logic.

Listen, if you can write me and tell me that the Eagles need a ground game, the media can write about Andy Rein needing to support a ground attack, and Andy Reid himself commenting on how the new Eagles Offensive coopdinator has had success with moving the ball on the ground ...what does that tell you? To me it says we intend to re-introduce our ground game to open up some things In the open field.

Work with me heah!:cool:

[Phoenix-Talon]

Getting McNabb back healthy and the Draft that they had? No, I don't think they're quite flat lining yet. They'll have to adjust to life with lesser WRs, and likely will rely more on the run, but it's a well coached team with talent.

Hos,

What's your opinion about the NFC-East's strength during 2000 - 2005?

[Phoenix-Talon]

[quote=AtlCB]To be more accurate, you should take out the Eagles records.

I'll bet you do ...especially in 2003!;)

[AmishCowboy]

I believe that Window has been Slammed shut!:lmao: :laugh2: :laugh1:

[illone]

Your opinion is understandable, but your logic is soiled. I mean come on, while I can sit here and say that TO is going to bring an improvement to your offense, by contributing to reception yardage; yet, not like the player, that says volumes to your ability to look beyond the need to demonstrate poor logic.

Listen, if you can write me and tell me that the Eagles need a ground game, the media can write about Andy Rein needing to support a ground attack, and Andy Reid himself commenting on how the new Eagles Offensive coopdinator has had success with moving the ball on the ground ...what does that tell you? To me it says we intend to re-introduce our ground game to open up some things In the open field.

Work with me heah!:cool:


First of all TO is not on my team. We'd never take the risk on that guy.

Second, while you may intend to establish a ground game nothing has been done yet. A simple nod by Reid isn't enough for me to contend that they have one. What we've seen in recent seasons is an offense focused on the pass and built a running game from the pass. Westbrook is a talented guy who can be relied on to catch out of the backfield but cant run between the tackles or carry the ball 25-30 times a game on a consistent basis.

[Vintage]

Whoa ...slow down. I believe you! You're talking about your team I'm talking about our division collectively.





The point was, if you factor out our 10 wins....its 21 wins for the remaining three teams. And your record was?....11 wins? 10? So, its more like 5 or 6 wins a piece for the Redskins/Giants.

And we weren't really a talented 10 win team...a lucky one.

My point was, the NFC East was weak...and the only reason we won 10 games is bec. of it being weak, us getting lucky, and a weaker NFC.



You haven't even come close to this topic. Alright your team was the best in the East. :rolleyes: :confused:


Where did I say we were the best in the East? Where did I even hint at implying that?

[StarAmongStars]

The Egirls are the only team that scares me in our division....and I won't be surprised one bit if the standings flip flop in 2006, and the foreskins and midgets finish 3rd and 4th respectively.

[Phoenix-Talon]

=YoMick]Why has an eagles thread been started at CowboysZone.com ?

First off ...calm down! This Isn't an Eagles Thread ...it's a NFC Conference question to Cowboy fans; and anyone else who'd like to dialogue. From the appearance of your response, you must have thought this was also an emoticon-related dialogue.:rolleyes:

[dmq]

I would say no. They draft too well for the window to be shutting down any time soon. Plus, they are well under the cap. So, its not like they are cap tied. Plus they have continuity in the coaching department and ownership.

[Phoenix-Talon]

First of all TO is not on my team. We'd never take the risk on that guy.

I apologize for the oversight; we actually wanted Randle El. He and Moss are going to reek havoc! ...If Brunell stays healthy!

[TruBlueCowboy]

All I have to say is what I've always said about the Eagles:

It's a lot easier to play against Dave Campo, Steve Spurrier and Jim Fossel than it is Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs, and Tom Coughlin.

Better hope there's more talent on that team. There will be no more NFC East pushovers now. Hard to keep getting those 11 wins and more when you're playing the best division in football.

[illone]

I apologize for the oversight; we actually wanted Randle El. He and Moss are going to reek havoc! ...If Brunell stays healthy!


No worries, man! Hopefully you are right about Randle-El. I'm sure he'll be used in special teams as the primary return guy but I have yet to determine how the offense will use him. I'm guessing as a 3rd down receiver/slot guy?

Who knows with Saunders, though. If Lloyd and Randle-El break out maybe Moss will be returning kicks, lol.

But anyways back to the topic....

[REDVOLUTION]

First off ...calm down! This Isn't an Eagles Thread ...it's a NFC Conference question to Cowboy fans; and anyone else who'd like to dialogue. From the appearance of your response, you must have thought this was also an emoticon-related dialogue.:rolleyes:

If is looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then you are duck!

your thread reads

"Has the Proverbial "Window" Really Closed for the Philadelphia Eagles!" = :cool:It sure reads like and Eagles thread

[REDVOLUTION]

Originally Posted by Phoenix-Talon
I apologize for the oversight; we actually wanted Randle El. He and Moss are going to reek havoc! ...If Brunell stays healthy!


No worries, man! Hopefully you are right about Randle-El. I'm sure he'll be used in special teams as the primary return guy but I have yet to determine how the offense will use him. I'm guessing as a 3rd down receiver/slot guy?

Who knows with Saunders, though. If Lloyd and Randle-El break out maybe Moss will be returning kicks, lol.

But anyways back to the topic....
Great! :cool:

E-Girls fans Foreskins fans making nice-nice at the CowboysZone?? :confused::cool:

[lurkercowboy]

The division has not caught up with the Eagles. The Eagles have dropped to the bottom of the division. There is a big difference. It is like Dallas in 2000-2002 as opposed in the nineties.

[Phoenix-Talon]

If is looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then you are duck!

your thread reads

"Has the Proverbial "Window" Really Closed for the Philadelphia Eagles!" = :cool:It sure reads like and Eagles thread

I may be a duck, but I'm not "Daffy" ...duck!

Active voice for an Eagles Thread...Has the Philadelphia Eagles closed the Proverbial Window ...(Eagles being the subject)!


Active Voice for an NFC Conference Thread ...Has the Proverbial "Window" Really Closed for the Philadelphia Eagles!

[DragonCowboy]

Maybe the reason for those good stats were because the rest of the NFC was weak, with the exception of a few teams...?

[DragonCowboy]

I may be a duck, but I'm not "Daffy" ...duck!

Active voice for an Eagles Thread...Has the Philadelphia Eagles closed the Proverbial Window ...(Eagles being the subject)!


Active Voice for an NFC Conference Thread ...Has the Proverbial "Window" Really Closed for the Philadelphia Eagles!

Dude, you know this is an Eagles thread...

[illone]

Great! :cool:

E-Girls fans Foreskins fans making nice-nice at the CowboysZone?? :confused::cool:


I suppose he may have used the wrong forum for this. Your own fans make topics about the Redskins all the time. I don't see what the problem is here.

[Phoenix-Talon]

E-Girls fans Foreskins fans making nice-nice at the CowboysZone?? :confused::cool:

This One is free ...it's called expressing a "common courtesy."

[gbrittain]

[QUOTE]

I'll Buy Into that ...only because it makes sense; not Because I'm an Eagles fan. Now everyone has made strides to improve upon areas they felt needed strengthening. This year will definitle show that the NFC-East is the dominant division in our conference ...once again!



I hear what you're saying, but you aren't backing it up with anything ...no offense. I have to respectfully disagree, unless you come up with the evidence to support your claim ...otherwise it's all pontification and opinionated.

Ok...First of all I do not know why you included the year 2000. Your contention is that the NFCE was not weak while you guys were dominating the NFCE, but obviously Philly did not dominate in 2000 because the Giants did. They won the division and went to the Super Bowl.

Now lets start with 2001:

1 team with a winning record - Eagles
1 team with a 500 record - Skins
3 sub 500 teams - Cowboys, Giants, Cardinals
Philly NFC Championship Game

2002:

2 teams with a winning record - Eagles, Giants
2 teams with a sub 500 record - Skins, Cowboys
Philly NFC Championship Game
Giants Wild Card loss

2003:
2 teams with a winning record - Eagles, Cowboys
2 teams with a sub 500 record - Skins, Giants
Philly NFC Championship Game
Dallas Wild Card Loss

You will not convince save maybe one person on this board that the 2003 Cowboys were even remotely good. Dallas beat two teams with a winning record the whole year (Philly and Carolina). Of course Dallas went on to lose to Carolina in the Wild Card round.

2004:
1 team with a winning record - Eagles
3 teams with a 6-10 record - Skins, Cowboys, Giants
Philly Super Bowl appearance


I seriously do not see anywhere that you can gather that the NFCE was not weak. In fact they were downright sorry.

[Phoenix-Talon]

Dude, you know this is an Eagles thread...

Dude, using many of your points of views ...anything I say Is going to have Eagles thread potential to it!:rolleyes:

[Vintage]

Is this "not an Eagles" thread much like how the "team Chemistry" was not a T.O. thread?

[Big Country]

Put it this way, the Eagles then are like the Seahawks now. Both teams benefited from a weak division and like you said the NFC in general hasn't been as strong as the AFC in recent years. The Eagles are now on the outside looking in and don't have 4-5 rollover games against weaker, building teams within the division.

I think the Eagles need a running game if they want to contend again.

Good point illone! I agree

[DragonCowboy]

Dude, using many of your points of views ...anything I say Is going to have Eagles thread potential to it!:rolleyes:

Look, Mr. "I use too many sarcasm smileys",

Can you honestly say this isn't about the Eagles?

"Has the window shut on the Eagles"?

How does that have anything to do with the NFC? It's just about the Eagles. It could've been about the NFC East, but certainly not a thread about the NFC. This is totally about the Eagles, don't try and stretch stuff...

[TheSkaven]

The Eagles' were a top tier team from 2001 to 2004 not because of a weak NFC East (though that boosted their seeding), but because they played great defense. Those types of defenses can really carry teams, as any Bears or Redskins fans can attest.

But in 2006, player for player, position for position, the Eagles' have the 4th best talent in the NFC East. They have a very favorable starting schedule, though, so I fully expect them to come out of the gates strong this year.

[stasheroo]

There's no doubt in my mind that the Eagles' window has shut.

The entire division has passed them by - and each of those teams has improved even more than the Eagles this offseason, widening that gap.

The Eagles were extremely fortunate to have won the 6 games they did last year.

They will never again have the offensive firepower that they had while Owens played for them.

In fact, I think you'll see 22 players playing within 30 yards of the field as they have no player to stretch opposing defenses.

To say they're going to run the ball is one thing. To do it is quite another.

Even if they want to, who's gonna do it?

The oft-injured Westbrook? He gets hurt with just his current workload.

Correll Brokenhalter? Let's just hope he makes it through camp?

Or maybe Moats? If he can finally learn his playbook.

It's no longer 2001 where the Eagles can get by with mediocre football in a sorry NFC East.

[REDVOLUTION]

This One is free ...it's called expressing a "common courtesy."

Its called LOITERING!!!

[REDVOLUTION]

The Eagles' were a top tier team from 2001 to 2004 not because of a weak NFC East (though that boosted their seeding), but because they played great defense. Those types of defenses can really carry teams, as any Bears or Redskins fans can attest.

But in 2006, player for player, position for position, the Eagles' have the 4th best talent in the NFC East. They have a very favorable starting schedule, though, so I fully expect them to come out of the gates strong this year.

I agree and disagree. I think the NFCE was weak and it made the eagles look better. Add the fact that they got their arses handed to them in the championship games(2 at home?) and then beat down by Pats.

[Phoenix-Talon]

Its called LOITERING!!!

You may own the house ...but I live here too! Loitering suggests existing without participating. You know better than that!

[REDVOLUTION]

You may own the house ...but I live here too! Loitering suggests existing without participating. You know better than that!

Loitering can also mean existing and leaving garbage in front of the house:lmao:

[SA_Gunslinger]

the nfc has been a joke since the millenium turned.
(one super bowl winner)

that's not to say that those ea-girls teams weren't really good anyhow, but it's true they benefitted some by being surounded by weaker teams.

i do think their window is closing, mostly b/c i don't believe mcnabb can get it done.

he would have by now.


in today's nfl, though, teams can bounce back quickly, so i'm sure they won't be down forever. but i predict the cellar this year.

[Phoenix-Talon]

Loitering can also mean existing and leaving garbage in front of the house:lmao:


...if you say so!:confused:

[theebs]

Glancing at the schedule the eagles have. I think there is a really good chance they start 4-0 going into the october 8th cowboys game. then after us they get new orleans, tampa and jacksonville.

There is a chance that the eagles go into the bye at 7-1 or 6-2. Then they have a gimme in the Tennesee game. They may have 8 wins before the schedule gets difficult in late november.

The eagles have good young talent and a top 5 quarterback. They are going to be a playoff team I believe or get knocked out if the east is as tough as it looks to be.

[dwmyers]

You've heard it said ... that the reason the Eagles dominated the NFC-East between 2000 - 2004, is because the rest of the NFC-E was weak during those days. They said that the proverbial "window" has closed for the Eagles franchise because the rest of the NFC-East has coaght up in quality and talent.

But what if the NFC-East was never weak! What is the NFC-East was just as strong then as it is now?! That would really place a fly in the ointment. Well ...that;s exactly what I'm saying!

Did a little research on NFC Standings between the year 2002 - 2005.

If the Eagles were good from 2000-2004, why are you doing research from 2002-2005? If you're trying to make the case that the Eagles won the division when their opponents were "great", why use the wrong time frame to do it?

To be plain, it's only been in 2005 that the level of competition in the NFC East was to the caliber of the mid 1980s and 1990s. Won/loss records aren't enough to ferret the quality issues out. Washington had severe issues on offense, and a revolving door at the coaching position; Dallas had been depleted of talent. New York has had a variety of issues, though the talent level in New York has been higher than the other clubs.

The one year the clubs collectively became good (2005) also happened to be the year that the Eagles lost two DTs, lost their QB in the middle of the season, lost their best RB due to injury, etc. etc.

If the Eagles recover their aggressive swarming defense, they'll be a competitive team. Then the question will be whether a team without a focus on the running game can win in the NFC East.

[Phoenix-Talon]

If the Eagles recover their aggressive swarming defense, they'll be a competitive team. Then the question will be whether a team without a focus on the running game can win in the NFC East.

Believe they've answered that question beofre ...but they will execute some ground attacks this year.

[AmishCowboy]

I think everybody from all Forums can't wait for T.C. to Start.

[REDVOLUTION]

If the Eagles were good from 2000-2004, why are you doing research from 2002-2005? If you're trying to make the case that the Eagles won the division when their opponents were "great", why use the wrong time frame to do it?

To be plain, it's only been in 2005 that the level of competition in the NFC East was to the caliber of the mid 1980s and 1990s. Won/loss records aren't enough to ferret the quality issues out. Washington had severe issues on offense, and a revolving door at the coaching position; Dallas had been depleted of talent. New York has had a variety of issues, though the talent level in New York has been higher than the other clubs.

The one year the clubs collectively became good (2005) also happened to be the year that the Eagles lost two DTs, lost their QB in the middle of the season, lost their best RB due to injury, etc. etc.

If the Eagles recover their aggressive swarming defense, they'll be a competitive team. Then the question will be whether a team without a focus on the running game can win in the NFC East.

Logic has been used on PT in the past - It doesnt work
:lmao:

[Bob Sacamano]

I think the eagles for several years had 6 easy games to allow them to win the division and get home field in the playoffs, which always helps in the cold northeast in january.

the Eagle's run was legitimate, they did pretty well in the playoffs, none of the other NFCE teams were in it during those years, but I agree that the NFC has been weak for a few years now up until last year

but injuries are what done in the Eagles last year, moreso than the comp. IMO

[the kid 05]

pt. since you think the window has closed you finally going to jump ship?



i'll save you a seat with a cold one :)

[REDVOLUTION]

the Eagle's run was legitimate, they did pretty well in the playoffs, none of the other NFCE teams were in it during those years, but I agree that the NFC has been weak for a few years now up until last year

but injuries are what done in the Eagles last year, moreso than the comp. IMO

I dunno... we played them tough and won first game last year and McNabb and Owens played...

then....

we didnt play so well 2nd game(ok I will use an Eagles line here) because of our injuries and still one....

[Phoenix-Talon]

Logic has been used on PT in the past - It doesnt work


I just didn't think it was very "logical" to use emoticons to express yourself.:rolleyes:

[MONT17]

hold on is this a left handed compliment? oh the NFC EAST wasnt that bad all of these years it was the greatness of the Iggs, right!!!


that is funny...

how do u respond to that? yeah u whipped up on us but we didnt forfiet!


Igg fans used to keep a running total of how bad they beat teams in the NFC east and now they wanna say the 10,000 point margin was due to the greatness of the team! Spurrier running college plays and Jerry making draft choices had nothing to do with that!



the Iggs fans window difers from a Cowboys fans window anyway... Iggs fans window is making the playoffs... that window is not closed, its never closed in the NFL but the SB window is boarded up!


Because McD will NEVER wina SUPER BOWL!

[Phoenix-Talon]

pt. since you think the window has closed you finally going to jump ship?
i'll save you a seat with a cold one :)

I appreciate the gesture. But that window is starting to look wide open even more than Before. No one is giving me anything that has teeth in it!

[the kid 05]

I appreciate the gesture. But that window is starting to look wide open even more than Before. No one is giving me anything that has teeth in it!
i'll give you my dog, she is a devil dog...so hyper:p:

[Phoenix-Talon]

hold on is this a left handed compliment? oh the NFC EAST wasnt that bad all of these years it was the greatness of the Iggs, right!!!


Actually ...right! Compliments to you. everyone seemed to scurry right overthat point ...except you.

[Phoenix-Talon]

i'll give you my dog, she is a devil dog...so hyper:p:

Your dog is a Marine?:rolleyes:

[REDVOLUTION]

I just didn't think it was very "logical" to use emoticons to express yourself.:rolleyes:

Weak!

You are too easy to pick apart... your handle should have some reference to swiss cheese with all the holes in your posts

[5Stars]

hold on is this a left handed compliment? oh the NFC EAST wasnt that bad all of these years it was the greatness of the Iggs, right!!!


that is funny...

how do u respond to that? yeah u whipped up on us but we didnt forfiet!


Igg fans used to keep a running total of how bad they beat teams in the NFC east and now they wanna say the 10,000 point margin was due to the greatness of the team! Spurrier running college plays and Jerry making draft choices had nothing to do with that!



the Iggs fans window difers from a Cowboys fans window anyway... Iggs fans window is making the playoffs... that window is not closed, its never closed in the NFL but the SB window is boarded up!


Because McD will NEVER wina SUPER BOWL!

:lmao:

Yup...what mont17 said! More Stars for mont17...

:starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin

[REDVOLUTION]

I appreciate the gesture. But that window is starting to look wide open even more than Before. No one is giving me anything that has teeth in it!

WOW! You want "sollid" here ya go...

What more do you want?


Eagles went to NFC title game 3 years in a row(w/out TO) and Donovan Choked!
Eagles go again with TO and Donovan Chokes!
Reid cant handle his players. His players handle him. (see McNadd)

[the kid 05]

Your dog is a Marine?:rolleyes: no she got kicked out for barking back at the instructor

[TheSkaven]

Glancing at the schedule the eagles have. I think there is a really good chance they start 4-0 going into the october 8th cowboys game. then after us they get new orleans, tampa and jacksonville.

There is a chance that the eagles go into the bye at 7-1 or 6-2. Then they have a gimme in the Tennesee game. They may have 8 wins before the schedule gets difficult in late november.:hammer:

You nailed it. Schedule is critical in today's NFL. I think that the Eagles are the 4th best team in the NFC East. I also think that they have a real good shot to start 6-2... and finish 2-6.

[gbrittain]

[QUOTE]

I'll Buy Into that ...only because it makes sense; not Because I'm an Eagles fan. Now everyone has made strides to improve upon areas they felt needed strengthening. This year will definitle show that the NFC-East is the dominant division in our conference ...once again!



I hear what you're saying, but you aren't backing it up with anything ...no offense. I have to respectfully disagree, unless you come up with the evidence to support your claim ...otherwise it's all pontification and opinionated.

So you tell me that I am pontificating and just throwing out opinions and not backing it up, but then I give you some specific reasons as to why the NFCE was weak and you fail to reply. What is up with that?

[5Stars]

:hammer:

You nailed it. Schedule is critical in today's NFL. I think that the Eagles are the 4th best team in the NFC East. I also think that they have a real good shot to start 6-2... and finish 2-6.

The Eagles are going 16-0...! So are the RedStinks! The Giants too!

The Cowboys will take home the Lombardi....

:star: Hide and watch...:)

[gbrittain]

[QUOTE]

I'll Buy Into that ...only because it makes sense; not Because I'm an Eagles fan. Now everyone has made strides to improve upon areas they felt needed strengthening. This year will definitle show that the NFC-East is the dominant division in our conference ...once again!



I hear what you're saying, but you aren't backing it up with anything ...no offense. I have to respectfully disagree, unless you come up with the evidence to support your claim ...otherwise it's all pontification and opinionated.

One more thing. From 2001-2004:

Philly averaged 12 wins
Skins averaged 6.5 wins
Giants averaged 6.75 wins
Cowboys averaged 6.5 wins

Again, tell me how that the NFCE was not weak from 2001-2004?

[REDVOLUTION]

I'll Buy Into that ...only because it makes sense; not Because I'm an Eagles fan. Now everyone has made strides to improve upon areas they felt needed strengthening. This year will definitle show that the NFC-East is the dominant division in our conference ...once again!

I hear what you're saying, but you aren't backing it up with anything ...no offense. I have to respectfully disagree, unless you come up with the evidence to support your claim ...otherwise it's all pontification and opinionated.




So you tell me that I am pontificating and just throwing out opinions and not backing it up, but then I give you some specific reasons as to why the NFCE was weak and you fail to reply. What is up with that?

Get used to that gbrittain... he does that to me all the time... and when he does answer... he does the politican thing... answers a totally different question
:jerk:

[CliffnMesquite]

I believe the Eagles window is still wide open. Unfortunately it's on a submarine.

[5Stars]

I believe the Eagles window is still wide open. Unfortunately it's on a submarine.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Beautiful Stars for you!


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[jackrussell]

Obviously the window is still open, as evidenced by this Eagles fan after watching yet another Eagles choke job.

Perhaps someone oughta close it before anymore get hurt.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/90/Window_jump_ghetto_Warsaw.jpg

[5Stars]

Obviously the window is still open, as evidenced by this Eagles fan after watching yet another Eagles choke job.

Perhaps someone oughta close it before anymore get hurt.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/90/Window_jump_ghetto_Warsaw.jpg

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: just for you!

:lmao2: :lmao2:

:star:

[ghst187]

no running game and by far the worst WR corps in the division...
I really can't see the Eagles faring very well in the division.
The Freak has been pretty normal for quite a while. He may be helped by his new DL teammates, but I get more of a feeling it'll be more like us trying to get Dat Dude to squeeze out double digit sacks again.
I don't think McNabb is as mobile as he used to be, injury or not, he's kinda fat and lost a step or two.
I don't see them being very threatening on offense. Their defense is definitely not what is was when they were winning the division. They couldn't get a passrush on anyone last year. That may be a lot better this year, but I think their LBs and DBs (minus BDawk) have declined significantly and haven't been repaired.
I think the Eagles will be better than most think but I still can't see them being that competitive in the division.

[Phoenix-Talon]

To all:

Whoa ...slow down everyone. Everyone Is saying why won't you respond to what I'm saying ...I'd like to, but I'm only One eagles fan dialoguing with at least 10 Cowboy fans; and One redskins fan. I'm being pushed and pulled.

This is for all of you at once ...

The proverbial window, as it applies to any franchise is non-existent! That's right ...it doesn't exist ...there's No such thing as a closed window theoretically or otherwise.

You no more can predict a closing window as you can an open window. retrospectively, if the Eagles window is closing, does that mean that the Cowboys window is open or opening?

The 2006 season will answer a lot of questions about hypothetical windows opening and closing.

[lspain1]

To all:


The 2006 season will answer a lot of questions about hypothetical windows opening and closing.


Correct PT, but last season was a harbinger that the 'happy time' for the Eagles has ended....at least for now. The Eagles did have a weak NFC East...and did achieve some success.....but did not win the ultimate prize.

[gbrittain]

To all:

Whoa ...slow down everyone. Everyone Is saying why won't you respond to what I'm saying ...I'd like to, but I'm only One eagles fan dialoguing with at least 10 Cowboy fans; and One redskins fan. I'm being pushed and pulled.

This is for all of you at once ...

The proverbial window, as it applies to any franchise is non-existent! That's right ...it doesn't exist ...there's No such thing as a closed window theoretically or otherwise.

You no more can predict a closing window as you can an open window. retrospectively, if the Eagles window is closing, does that mean that the Cowboys window is open or opening?

The 2006 season will answer a lot of questions about hypothetical windows opening and closing.

I understand. Some say the window is opened and some say the window is closed. All I want to know is how in the world you come to the conclusion that the NFCE was not weak 2001-2004? Shoot, I am not even taking anything away from the Eagles. If there had been some really good teams during that time period, they would have had to be something special to unseat the Eagles. They were that good. I just do not see at all where the NFCE was anything more than weak at best and horrendous at worst.