RUMOR: Ha ha Deadskin Brunell may retire!!

[leotisbrown]

I was laxing over at a Deadskins site and run cross this postings on Brunells status:


{quotings comes up next}
"Just wanted some clarification on this. I was listening to the local morning show on 106.7(The Sports Junkies). Around the 9 o'clock hour a listener called in and informed the Junkies that he heard from an inside source named JT that Brunell was a lock to retire before the start of the season, because his knees are messed up. The guy sounded like he was drunk, but then the Junkies mentioned that Portis was on last week joking that Brunells thumb injury was made up by the front office to cover up Brunells intentions to retire because of his knees, and that the whole time he was supposedly hurt, it was simply the team trying to convince him to play this year."
{Quotings ends now}


Oh Lordy wood this be some great news for my heart! I hopeded something bad will happens at them Deadskins and it look like my prayer be answered with a big YESS from on high.

No guarantees yet. Could still be just a rumors of foul but like the good book say wear they is smoke they is fire for sure.

Snyder and Gibbs on suicide watch waiting to see if Brunell come to camp or not.

Please retires Brunell!! We will light up Jason Cambell like he a christmas tree with those deer in the headlites stair and his lack of ignorance from his low wonderlick score.

Ha har!! Ha har!! Ha har!!

We are Superbowl bound for sure!!


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[Vintage]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Most of the ones at CPND think its merely a rumor and that Portis was being sarcastic.

[austintodallas]

Very interesting news and from my favorite poster leotisbrown no less!

[AtlCB]

Snyder and Gibbs on suicide watch waiting to see if Brunell come to camp or not.

Please retires Brunell!! We will light up Jason Cambell like he a christmas tree with those deer in the headlites stair and his lack of ignorance from his low wonderlick score.


:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

[dmq]

I actually don't want Brunell to retire. His best years are far behind him. Campbell could end up being far more mobil even if he isn't seasoned yet.

[sago1]

I don't care what Brunnel does/doesn't do. All I care about is that we play top flight against all NFL East teams cause we can't afford to screw up again like we did last year. We did beat Eagles twice and splite with Giants, but losing both games against Skins cost us heavily. If we'd have won that game we would have ended up 10-6 and Skins would have been 9-7. We have to end up with NLT a 4-2 record against Eagles, Giants, Skins.

[superpunk]

I love leotis.

Campbell's lack of ignorance...priceless.

[ravidubey]

Who cares? All players being healthy I think Dallas matches up well vs. Washington. What defeated us was our conservative tack against them more than anything else. As for the game in Washington they caught us on the best day possible for them. Emotional blowouts like that happen from time to time, just ask Washington what happened to them in New York earlier in the year.

[leotisbrown]

{Quotings a part of my earlier quotings to follows below}
he heard from an inside source named JT
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Hey I done some detectiving and I figures who the leeks guy must has been. JT-- can only be Joe Thighsman the former Deadskin QB and current worstest announcer in football tv. He and Brunell our confide in themselves with their closeness and nestling ways of secrets hidden fowl.

This gets more interested by the minutes passing.

Everyone on ExtremeSkins gonna be going crazy if this turns out for true! Har har!!

Can't wait to rub it in their ugly faces when it happens up on them. Vengence is a justice gratitude for the rubbings of there sin.

[Hostile]

And the Kerry Collins to Washington rumors begin to heat up.

Stay tuned...

[CrazyCowboy]

What a shame...

[Yeagermeister]

And the Kerry Collins to Washington rumors begin to heat up.

Stay tuned...
Henson to DC? :laugh1:

[MONT17]

yo... the Skins were 5-6 last year, how many 5-6 teams make the playoffs then talk SUPERBOWL the next year? They were not that good last year, they had a good run to end it thats all just like the BILLS did the year before!

Brunells stats were a joke in the second half of the season please look at them along with Moss' stats! I hope to high heaven Brunell plays... then the Skins fans wont be using it as an excuse when they lose 10 games!


most of Brunells key plays is when he is able to make people miss in the pocket and deliver the ball... any other time he stares down his WR (look at the replay of the 2 TDs to MOSS last year) leaving no doubt where he is going with the ball! Why else do the skins go out and get 2 more WRs... the guy is a bumb with a nice deep ball and some pocket pressence... now with bad knees and a thumb you want him to retire?


SKins fans better hope KERRY COLLINs can still play!!!

[Mash]

I hope Brunell heals and plays another 10 yrs with the skins...

But on some braces...take some geritol and get on that field !!!! Mark....

Cowboys fans here are wishing you a speedy recovery.....

[the kid 05]

Henson to DC? :laugh1:

are you trying to get people rilled up at 9:50 in the moring?

[leotisbrown]

Funny how all the Skins trolls what like to jump theyre prying noses and backsides in two threads they dont belong in haven't even said word one on this thread isnt it?

Me thinks they scaredy cats and hiding cus of afraidness I do. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I like when they get all afraid and cowers in the back shaking and praying I dont take they lunch moneys from em. Reminds me a grading school.

But I always take they lunch moneys.

Always.

Ha har!!

[burmafrd]

It is interesting that no skin trolls are in this thread.

[Big Country]

Funny how all the Skins trolls what like to jump theyre prying noses and backsides in two threads they dont belong in haven't even said word one on this thread isnt it?

Me thinks they scaredy cats and hiding cus of afraidness I do. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I like when they get all afraid and cowers in the back shaking and praying I dont take they lunch moneys from em. Reminds me a grading school.

But I always take they lunch moneys.

Always.

Ha har!!


Poetry in motion!:lmao: :p:

[Hostile]

yo... the Skins were 5-6 last year, how many 5-6 teams make the playoffs then talk SUPERBOWL the next year? They were not that good last year, they had a good run to end it thats all just like the BILLS did the year before!

Brunells stats were a joke in the second half of the season please look at them along with Moss' stats! I hope to high heaven Brunell plays... then the Skins fans wont be using it as an excuse when they lose 10 games!


most of Brunells key plays is when he is able to make people miss in the pocket and deliver the ball... any other time he stares down his WR (look at the replay of the 2 TDs to MOSS last year) leaving no doubt where he is going with the ball! Why else do the skins go out and get 2 more WRs... the guy is a bumb with a nice deep ball and some pocket pressence... now with bad knees and a thumb you want him to retire?


SKins fans better hope KERRY COLLINs can still play!!!



They were?

I was under the impression they played 16 games like everyone else.

[dmq]

They are too busy at Extremeskins debating how Carlos Rogers will manhandle the overated Terry Glenn.:lmao2:


Not to mention debating taking Rogers over Ware in the draft was a good move.:lmao2:

[Hostile]

Henson to DC? :laugh1:kartr would cap himself if Henson started over Campbell.

[Danny White]

I think this all stems from another one of Portis' "classic" stand-up comedy press conferences. I think the whole thing was a joke, and then some drunk clown called into the Junkies with a bogus source to corraborate it.

I didn't hear the segment myself, but a few of my friends did, and they said the guy sounded drunk.

On a side note, leotis hits yet another Home Run. Best Poster... Ever!

[superpunk]

kartr would cap himself if Henson started over Campbell.

And that is funny.

[DBoys]

kartr would cap himself if Henson started over Campbell.

:lmao2:

[JohnLockesGhost]

It is interesting that no skin trolls are in this thread.

Sorry, I've been working all morning. What exactly would you like me to contribute?

Brunell won't be retiring any time soon.

[Vintage]

They are too busy at Extremeskins debating how Carlos Rogers will manhandle the overated Terry Glenn.:lmao2:
Not to mention debating taking Rogers over Ware in the draft was a good move.:lmao2:

Its not illogical to say that it was a good move on their part. Ware is better suited for a 3-4 OLB than a 4-3 DE.

They also needed a CB; Springs was mediocre the season before. And Smoot had left for Minnesota.

They needed another CB. Furthermore, it takes a couple of years before CB's tend to hit their stride anyway.

It was a logical choice for them. And it wasn't bad for them either.

Where they lose credibility is saying Merriman was light years better than Ware last year.

[superpunk]

Where they lose credibility

Don't you have to have something, before you lose it?



(cheap Skins dig quota - filled.)

[JohnLockesGhost]

Its not illogical to say that it was a good move on their part. Ware is better suited for a 3-4 OLB than a 4-3 DE.

They also needed a CB; Springs was mediocre the season before. And Smoot had left for Minnesota.

They needed another CB. Furthermore, it takes a couple of years before CB's tend to hit their stride anyway.

It was a logical choice for them. And it wasn't bad for them either.

Where they lose credibility is saying Merriman was light years better than Ware last year.

Skins fans like Merriman so much because they saw him play at the University of Maryland. So they're just pulling for the local kid.

[Vintage]

Skins fans like Merriman so much because they saw him play at the University of Maryland. So they're just pulling for the local kid.

Good point.

Don't know why I didn't see that connection. Just slipped my mind, I guess.

Sort of like how some Cowboy fans see Vince Young as God's Gift to football at QB, I suppose...

[EGTuna]

I heard the segment on the Junkies, and the "JT" the caller was referring to was James Thrash. However, the caller couldn't have had less credibility.

There is no way Brunell retires, and as a Cowboys fan, I hope he doesn't. He was utterly ineffective towards the end of last season (with one hugely regretful exception that I will not speak about), and I will be shocked if he has any kind of sustained success this season.

[austintodallas]

Good point.

Don't know why I didn't see that connection. Just slipped my mind, I guess.

Sort of like how some Cowboy fans see Vince Young as God's Gift to football at QB, I suppose...To college football at least.

[TheHustler]

Man, wouldn't that be funny....

[JohnLockesGhost]

I heard the segment on the Junkies, and the "JT" the caller was referring to was James Thrash. However, the caller couldn't have had less credibility.

There is no way Brunell retires, and as a Cowboys fan, I hope he doesn't. He was utterly ineffective towards the end of last season (with one hugely regretful exception that I will not speak about), and I will be shocked if he has any kind of sustained success this season.

I certainly wouldn't be shocked. It'll be interesting to see how he fits the new offense. (Please fit the new offense).

[dmq]

Someone on Extemeskins also bashed their team for taking White over Canty. He was in their backyard also. Then some comical guy mentioned Canty as being "undersized". I think their OL is gonna get a good taste of just how "undersized" Canty is. They also mentioned how Ware can't rush the passer.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Someone on Extemeskins also bashed their team for taking White over Canty. He was in their backyard also. Then some comical guy mentioned Canty as being "undersized". I think their OL is gonna get a good taste of just how "undersized" Canty is. They also mentioned how Ware can't rush the passer.

Dude, the thread was started by a troll. And here's a quote from a Skins fan (the first response):

I agree with your point that Ware was the best rookie in the NFC last year and a good argument could be made that he was the best in the NFL. That being said it would have been illogical to pick him that year as we didn't have a need at LB.
I think it is premature to judge Rogers. Ware played well partly due to the fact that he was given the opportunity to do so. Carlos was 3rd on the depth chart last year, that combined with an injury kept him off the field. When he was on the field I think Carlos did very well. He had a couple of important picks and I do not recall him getting burned (unlike some Cowboy CBs, sorry but you picked this fight). I'd wait another two seasons before you can correctly compare the two players.

Sounds downright agreeable, if you ask me.

[jimmy40]

the guy is a bumb with a nice deep ball and some pocket pressence...


Unlike Bledsoe who is a bum with a nice deep ball and no pocket presence.

[burmafrd]

Anyone that calls Bledsoe a bum has no football credibility at all. Bledsoe is a statue with some problems throwing picks but he is no bum. Hutch, Q, Leaf are bums. Unless you cannot tell the difference.

[jcblanco22]

He and Brunell our confide in themselves with their closeness and nestling ways of secrets hidden fowl.

This phrase reminds me of the subject lines of those spam e-mails. Either that, or the title of a kung-fu flick.

[Cbz40]

Henson to DC? :laugh1:


:lmao2: :lmao:

[DragonCowboy]

Dude, the thread was started by a troll. And here's a quote from a Skins fan (the first response):

I agree with your point that Ware was the best rookie in the NFC last year and a good argument could be made that he was the best in the NFL. That being said it would have been illogical to pick him that year as we didn't have a need at LB.
I think it is premature to judge Rogers. Ware played well partly due to the fact that he was given the opportunity to do so. Carlos was 3rd on the depth chart last year, that combined with an injury kept him off the field. When he was on the field I think Carlos did very well. He had a couple of important picks and I do not recall him getting burned (unlike some Cowboy CBs, sorry but you picked this fight). I'd wait another two seasons before you can correctly compare the two players.

Sounds downright agreeable, if you ask me.

Actually, alot of them surprised me, how pro-Canty/pro-Ware they've been. Ware probably wouldn't fit in a 4-3 anyway.

[illone]

The thing that worries most Skins fans about Brunell is that he really doesn't have much to prove this off-season. Last year at this time Ramsey (puke) was named the pre-camp starter so Brunell was playing to save his career.

This time around Brunell can pretty much sit back because the job is his.

One can hope Campbell is ready to compete and give Mark a good competition in camp.

Henson to DC? LOL!

[5Stars]

Brusmell will not retire on his own...

However, one of the Cowboy defenders will assist in his decision to call it quits!!

It will be know as "The Aikman Payback"...!

:dissskin: on Brusmell....

[Vintage]

Anyone that calls Bledsoe a bum has no football credibility at all. Bledsoe is a statue with some problems throwing picks but he is no bum. Hutch, Q, Leaf are bums. Unless you cannot tell the difference.

Sorry.

But my criteria is different. You have to throw less than 17 INTs to be considered a non-bum (if you are a starting QB)

[DBoys]

Brusmell will not retire on his own...

However, one of the Cowboy defenders will assist in his decision to call it quits!!

It will be know as "The Aikman Payback"...!

:dissskin: on Brusmell....

Anytime I see you posting in a Redskin thread I know Gibby is making an appearance :)

[5Stars]

Anytime I see you posting in a Redskin thread I know Gibby is making an appearance :)

That's my dog Gibbs' job...just like a dog that sniffs out drugs, or sniffs through rubble to save lives...I trained Gibbs to urinate on things that stink, and as you can see, he is well trained.

:star:

[1fisher]

That's my dog Gibbs' job...just like a dog that sniffs out drugs, or sniffs through rubble to save lives...I trained Gibbs to urinate on things that stink, and as you can see, he is well trained.

:star:


:lmao: :lmao:

[burmafrd]

So Farve has been a bum for a lot of his career?

[Avery]

A dumb rumor with no truth to it IMO.

Brunell is just like Bledsoe in that he's simply a veteran bus driver for them to get as far as they can as quick as they can. Unlike us though, Campbell is the future where we don't really have one.

Hensonites and Romophiles might hate to say it, but if Bledsoe goes down, we're up the creek.

[burmafrd]

Campbell MAY be the future for the skins but he has shown nothing to warrant anything more. Hope is all- nothing else.

[Vintage]

So Farve has been a bum for a lot of his career?

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment. I used the cutoff of 17 bec. Bledsoe threw 17 INT's last season......

It was merely a joke.

However, to address your point, Farve has had 6 seasons of where he has thrown 17 INTs or more.

Of those 6 seasons.....3 of those 6 were coupled with him throwing 30 or MORE TD's in that season...

[5Stars]

Hensonites and Romophiles might hate to say it, but if Bledsoe goes down, we're up the creek.

Probabaly so...and this is one thing that really bothers me!

Having backups that have absoutely NO experience at the NFL level...

:(

:star:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Romophiles

:laugh2:

Haven't heard that one before.

How you been Avery?

[JohnLockesGhost]

Campbell MAY be the future for the skins but he has shown nothing to warrant anything more. Hope is all- nothing else.

Yet we're all waiting for Eli Manning to be GREAT. When I say "we," I mean his media sycophants.

[Bizwah]

I doubt this is true.

If it is true, then I hate it for Brunell. I think he's a great guy. A couple of years ago, I wanted us to sign him.....we got VinnyT instead.

I would love to see our teams go at it with both teams at full strength. I think we're very evenly matched. The fourteen-thirteen game last year was more indicative of where our teams were than the last game when we were devestated with injuries.

[burmafrd]

BUT, vintage, you said NOTHING about TD's. ONLY INT's. So are you changing your criteria now?

[1fisher]

I doubt this is true.

If it is true, then I hate it for Brunell. I think he's a great guy. A couple of years ago, I wanted us to sign him.....we got VinnyT instead.

I would love to see our teams go at it with both teams at full strength. I think we're very evenly matched. The fourteen-thirteen game last year was more indicative of where our teams were than the last game when we were devestated with injuries.


some of the trolls won't agree with that statement!:eek:

[REDVOLUTION]

Brunnell wasnt much of a threat when healthy... I hope he plays... let us retire him for the redskins!

[Birdlives]

Portis was kidding around on NFL network a few weeks back and some spjunkies fan took it seriously. Brunell is going to get plenty of rest up through TC so he can sustain himself further into the season. That's the basic jist of this whole situation. That and listening to anything sports related on the sports junkies show is a mistake. Last year Brunell had to fight through training camp and act as the second stringer. He took alot more snaps as a result. The Skins feel that if they give more time to JC and less to Brunell, he might last out the regular season better.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Brunnell wasnt much of a threat when healthy... I hope he plays... let us retire him for the redskins!

Be careful what you wish for...

[superpunk]

Portis was kidding around on NFL network a few weeks back and some spjunkies fan took it seriously. Brunell is going to get plenty of rest up through TC so he can sustain himself further into the season. That's the basic jist of this whole situation. That and listening to anything sports related on the sports junkies show is a mistake. Last year Brunell had to fight through training camp and act as the second stringer. He took alot more snaps as a result. The Skins feel that if they give more time to JC and less to Brunell, he might last out the regular season better.

You mean you don't love EB screaming about how great the Skins are?

Interesting....

[REDVOLUTION]

Be careful what you wish for...

:chopchop:

[TheKey]

:redwhine: Yet we're all waiting for Eli Manning to be GREAT. When I say "we," I mean his media sycophants.

[CowboyWay]

yo... the Skins were 5-6 last year, how many 5-6 teams make the playoffs then talk SUPERBOWL the next year? They were not that good last year, they had a good run to end it thats all just like the BILLS did the year before!

Brunells stats were a joke in the second half of the season please look at them along with Moss' stats! I hope to high heaven Brunell plays... then the Skins fans wont be using it as an excuse when they lose 10 games!


most of Brunells key plays is when he is able to make people miss in the pocket and deliver the ball... any other time he stares down his WR (look at the replay of the 2 TDs to MOSS last year) leaving no doubt where he is going with the ball! Why else do the skins go out and get 2 more WRs... the guy is a bumb with a nice deep ball and some pocket pressence... now with bad knees and a thumb you want him to retire?


SKins fans better hope KERRY COLLINs can still play!!!





I absolutely couldn't agree more with you. I"ve been saying the same thing over at ES for months. Of course they don't buy it. I can't wait for the excuses to start this year.

[Vintage]

..and yet, despite all of that, Brunell outplayed Bledsoe last year.

What does that make Bledsoe then?

[apickmans]

..and yet, despite all of that, Brunell outplayed Bledsoe last year.

What does that make Bledsoe then?

vintage, as a cowboys fan arent u supposed to be saying it was due to the injuries on the O-line?

[theebs]

I was laxing over at a Deadskins site and run cross this postings on Brunells status:



Oh Lordy wood this be some great news for my heart! I hopeded something bad will happens at them Deadskins and it look like my prayer be answered with a big YESS from on high.

No guarantees yet. Could still be just a rumors of foul but like the good book say wear they is smoke they is fire for sure.

Snyder and Gibbs on suicide watch waiting to see if Brunell come to camp or not.

Please retires Brunell!! We will light up Jason Cambell like he a christmas tree with those deer in the headlites stair and his lack of ignorance from his low wonderlick score.

Ha har!! Ha har!! Ha har!!

We are Superbowl bound for sure!!


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Why on earth would anyone get happiness from another player being so injured he has to retire. Totally classless.

[stasheroo]

..and yet, despite all of that, Brunell outplayed Bledsoe last year.

What does that make Bledsoe then?

Could have had just a bit to do with the fact that one guy was sacked 31 times and the other was sacked 50 times.

I'll let you figure out which is which...........

[Vintage]

vintage, as a cowboys fan arent u supposed to be saying it was due to the injuries on the O-line?

Excuses matter little.

Results matter more.

I don't deny that the OL's downfall led to Bledsoe's downfall. How much so is debatable.

But the fact of the matter is, none of it matters. We went 9-7 and didn't make the playoffs. That's all that counts.

You can use the OL "woeful play" and that it should be better in predicting the following season...I have no problem with that. But we went 9-7. That's what matters/counts.

[5Stars]

Could have had just a bit to do with the fact that one guy was sacked 31 times and the other was sacked 50 times.

I'll let you figure out which is which...........

Sure, like a RedStink fan can figure stuff like that out!

Why are you challenging the few brain cells in their tiny heads? :confused:

:star:

[Vintage]

Could have had just a bit to do with the fact that one guy was sacked 31 times and the other was sacked 50 times.

I'll let you figure out which is which...........


I don't deny its effect.

But it doesn't matter; Bledsoe was outperformed by Brunell last year. Avoiding sacks is part of it.

[stasheroo]

I don't deny its effect.

But it doesn't matter; Bledsoe was outperformed by Brunell last year.

OK, if you say so it must be true......

:blind:

[5Stars]

I don't deny its effect.

But it doesn't matter; Bledsoe was outperformed by Brunell last year.

Would you rather have Brusmell over Bledsoe this year?

:star:

[stasheroo]

I don't deny its effect.

But it doesn't matter; Bledsoe was outperformed by Brunell last year. Avoiding sacks is part of it.

On a side note, who do you like better at Offensive Tackle?

Rob Petitti and Torrin Tucker?

or

Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen?

I'm just curious?

[Vintage]

Would you rather have Brusmell over Bledsoe this year?

:star:

So now....we are projecting the future?

I was talking about last year's performances.

Not this year.

[5Stars]

So now....we are projecting the future?

I was talking about last year's performances.

Not this year.

Just answer the question. I said nothing about projecting/predicting the future...

Would you rather have Brusmell over Bledsoe this coming season?

:star:

[Vintage]

On a side note, who do you like better at Offensive Tackle?

Rob Petitti and Torrin Tucker?

or

Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen?

I'm just curious?

No. You aren't.

I do not deny the fact that the Skins line is better than ours. Nor do I deny the fact that Brunell was better protected. Nor that Bledsoe was outplayed by Brunell. The results say so, regardless of why.

[Vintage]

Just answer the question. I said nothing about projecting/predicting the future...

Would you rather have Brusmell over Bledsoe this coming season?

:star:

And again, I ask you the relevence of this question to the debate of who performed better last year than this year.

Screw it. I will just answer it rather than go back and forth with you. Who do I think will have a better year next year? Bledsoe. But I am biased.

Which, of course, has nothing to do with the statement I made that Brunell outperformed Bledsoe last year. Every year is a different year, with different results.

[burmafrd]

Early in the season before the line went into the toilet Bledsoe was easily outperforming Brunell. Extrapolate that over 16 games and saying Brunnell was better is a joke.

[5Stars]

And again, I ask you the relevence of this question to the debate of who performed better last year than this year.

That's what I thought...

OK, don't answer a simple question...that tells me all I need to know.

Carry on....

:cool:

:star:

[Vintage]

Early in the season before the line went into the toilet Bledsoe was easily outperforming Brunell. Extrapolate that over 16 games and saying Brunnell was better is a joke.

And if you extrapolate Ware's early season play before teams figured to double team him, Ware was easily outperforming many defensive players. Over the course of 16 games, he might have been in contention for DPOY.

Point?

You can't extrapolate. It doesn't matter. What matters are the results....not the "why's" or the "what-ifs."

[stasheroo]

No. You aren't.

I do not deny the fact that the Skins line is better than ours. Nor do I deny the fact that Brunell was better protected. Nor that Bledsoe was outplayed by Brunell. The results say so, regardless of why.

Well, if you know "why" the results were different, you have to factor in all of the reasons they were different as well.

We're not dealing in a vacuum here. There are plenty of variables that factor in.

To try to dismiss them just doesn't work.

[Vintage]

Well, if you know "why" the results were different, you have to factor in all of the reasons they were different as well.

We're not dealing in a vacuum here. There are plenty of variables that factor in.

To try to dismiss them just doesn't work.

No. It does. When evaluating who played better; the results are what matters.

If we are trying to predict next season, certainly, you'd have to include other factors in (such as the OL, etc).

Which is why I answered Bledsoe to 5Stars question...because I did account for that in my prediction.

[Vintage]

That's what I thought...

OK, don't answer a simple question...that tells me all I need to know.

Carry on....

:cool:

:star:

Do you want me to bold it for you?

[stasheroo]

No. It does. When evaluating who played better; the results are what matters.

If we are trying to predict next season, certainly, you'd have to include other factors in (such as the OL, etc).

Which is why I answered Bledsoe to 5Stars question...because I did account for that in my prediction.

Fine.

Think whatever you want.

Go to NFL.com and crunch your "numbers" and view them as the end-all, be-all.

That's your right.

We'll just look at the bigger picture.

[Vintage]

Fine.

Thaink whatever you want.

Go to NFL.com and crunch your "numbers" and view them as the end-all be-all.

That's your right.

We'll just look at the bigger picture.

Again, if I am predicting the future....

All I am saying is that Bledsoe was outperformed by Brunell. Not that Brunell is better....or that Brunell will be better next year....

[stasheroo]

Again, if I am predicting the future....

All I am saying is that Bledsoe was outperformed by Brunell. Not that Brunell is better....or that Brunell will be better next year....

But, like several of us have said, there were factors out of Bledsoe's control which heavily contributed to the final numbers.

They should certainly not be ignored.

[Vintage]

But, like several of us have said, there were factors out of Bledsoe's control which heavily contributed to the final numbers.

They should certainly not be ignored.

Because its not an "amount" you can assign too.

Brunell had worse options at WR/TE to throw too, a better OL/RB...

How do you equate that into the mix. You can't assign a numerical value to take either into consideration. You can, certainly, take that all into consideration when making next year's predictions.

And all of that becomes more relevant in discussing who is better; which I am not arguing.

[Bob Sacamano]

dude forgot the J in JT, it was most undoubtedly our own JJT who was his inside source LOL

[Bob Sacamano]

Skins fans like Merriman so much because they saw him play at the University of Maryland. So they're just pulling for the local kid.

and the fact that Dallas took Ware instead of Merriman doesn't play just as big a role?

[Bob Sacamano]

Sorry.

But my criteria is different. You have to throw less than 17 INTs to be considered a non-bum (if you are a starting QB)

a bum is a QB who will never win a game for you, Bledsoe has

[Bob Sacamano]

..and yet, despite all of that, Brunell outplayed Bledsoe last year.

What does that make Bledsoe then?

Brunell had less INTs, big whoop

[Bob Sacamano]

What matters are the results....not the "why's" or the "what-ifs."

and the results are Bledsoe had more attempts, more completions, a higher completion percentage, a higher ypa average than Brunell

[JohnLockesGhost]

and the fact that Dallas took Ware instead of Merriman doesn't play just as big a role?

Maybe it does for some, but some people are just more comfortable with what they're familiar with. It's human nature.

[firehawk350]

Brunell had less INTs, big whoop

Yeah, i mean, who cares about INTs?! Oh wait, that's right, everyone who has ever used a QB rating to indicate a passer's capabilities. In that case, an INT is actually a negative TD (for calculation purposes), so it's worth as much as a TD in those crazy people's eyes. So saying, oh, he threw less INTs is like saying, oh, he just threw more TDs, big whoop.
So, in addition to making better decisions with the football, he can also avoid the sack to buy more time (which Bledsoe has shown little ability to do) and even tuck the ball and create a big play himself. Give me the immobile QB behind the mediocre line to lead my team any day of the week!

[leotisbrown]

Gramps say best not to tellings on your dreams lessin they might nots come for true but I cant not hold this one in no longer.

So hear goes.

{Dreamings begins up below this riting}

Had a dreamings last night that Cambells soup guy started week 2 again us and we blitzed him and knocked him silly speaking jibberish and shaking they had to drag him out in a potato sack to mental home then with a hush over the crowdings and Gibbs was youranating all over himself and Snyder was throwing up a gusher out the owners box spraying all over they fans and such sum. Then they brought Brunell in off a the bench only he was in a wheel chair and they put him behind center looking scared and sweating like and they hiked him up the ball and he's trying to wheel backwards with the ball in one hand and wheeling the chair with the other only the chair starts going around in circles like a roach does when you turn on the kichen lights at night real quick and they get scared and don't know what way to hide at then our whole defense gets set to jumps on him and I woken up with my bed all wet and the likes.

Wew!

{Dreamings ends hear}

Anways now I cant not wait for that first game against them to see if it comes up for truth.

Lets keep our fingers crossed up hoping we see this here happenings before long times pass.

[Dangerous Dave]

Leotis, you are absolutely killing me.

CowboysZone needs to sticky this thread.

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeah, i mean, who cares about INTs?!

I care about INTs, but if that's all someone did better than someone else, excuse me, not impressed

I noticed you didn't respond to my post stating that Bledsoe did better in more areas than Brunell...