Crayton is back.

[Cogan]

Apparently, third-year wide receiver Patrick Crayton, is better than hot. "You're on fire, Pat. You're on fire!" shouted head coach Bill Parcells near the end of Monday night's practice. Crayton made several nice catches throughout the day, including a deep ball from Tony Romo where the receiver split the corner and safety in a 7-on-7 drill.

This coming from today's DC.com. This is great news to read. While it is obviously important to have one of the best WR duos in the NFL in Terrell Owens & Terry Glenn, it is also vital to see that the younger players that the Cowboys brought in straight out of college. Both Owens & Glenn are in their 11th year in the league, and neither were drafted by Dallas. That is why, in my book, it is imperative that WRs like Crayton & Terrance Copper receive the cudos they have recently by their Head Coach.

The NFL Draft is still the foundation of great NFL teams, and it seems lately that the Cowboys have been forced to bring in an inordinate number of FAs. This is mostly due to poor drafting in the 2000-2003 drafts. The past 2-3 drafts have been much better, and should help this team avoid bringing in so many FAs the next few years.

Just watching Crayton while viewing games from last year shows what a weapon he can become. He had some excellent catches, as well as punt returns. In fact, I believe the drafting of Skyler Green wouldn't have been necessary had the team knew better the status of Crayton at the time of the draft. He is big, strong, & has the best hands on the Cowboys. I look forward to his continued growth as a WR & return man on this team. He is definately an important piece of the future puzzle.

[AbeBeta]

This is just the kind of report that folks look back on when a guy is cut and say "what happened?"

[silver]

in my X-Box crayton starts and glenn gets traded to the saints. just kidding

[EMMITTnROY]

Just watching Crayton while viewing games from last year shows what a weapon he can become. He had some excellent catches, as well as punt returns. In fact, I believe the drafting of Skyler Green wouldn't have been necessary had the team knew better the status of Crayton at the time of the draft. He is big, strong, & has the best hands on the Cowboys. I look forward to his continued growth as a WR & return man on this team. He is definately an important piece of the future puzzle.
I agree with everything except for the punt returning part.. I'm really glad that we got Skyler Green.. I love Patrick Crayton, he is one of my favs right now, but I don't think he is a very good punt returner at all..

[theogt]

This is just the kind of report that folks look back on when a guy is cut and say "what happened?"May be, but I see zero chance of that happening here.

[Cbz40]

I agree with everything except for the punt returning part.. I'm really glad that we got Skyler Green.. I love Patrick Crayton, he is one of my favs right now, but I don't think he is a very good punt returner at all..


I would agree his punt returning is ...shall we say, a little suspect.

[skinsngibbs4life]

must be TO's second coming :laugh2:

[EMMITTnROY]

must be TO's second coming :laugh2:
Terrell Owens>Santana Moss
Terry Glenn>Brandon Lloyd
Patrick Crayton>Antwan Randle El

[AbeBeta]

Terrell Owens>Santana Moss
Terry Glenn>Brandon Lloyd
Patrick Crayton>Antwan Randle El

that last one is a real stretch.

[skinsngibbs4life]

Terrell Owens>Santana Moss
Terry Glenn>Brandon Lloyd
Patrick Crayton>Antwan Randle El

well, i wasnt trying to get into anything here, just add a smart allic remark.

but hey, if you want to start comparing, at least take off the blue n silver goggles, crayton better than randle el?

[EMMITTnROY]

that last one is a real stretch.
OK, I will concede that it is very debatable.. but honestly, I would rather have Crayton.. Randle El hasn't really done anything as a reciever.. he is faster than Crayton, but that is it..

[TheKey]

No its not, were talking pass catching not WR passes.

[Crown Royal]

that last one is a real stretch.

We'll see - Crayton didn't get a whole lot of snaps his first season, because...it was his first season.

Last year he was the clear #3, however, his injury bit him. This year will be miiiiiiiighty interesting.

And regarding your 'cut comment.' - :mad:

[Crown Royal]

well, i wasnt trying to get into anything here, just add a smart allic remark.

but hey, if you want to start comparing, at least take off the blue n silver goggles, crayton better than randle el?

Not yet - but he shows me a higher ceiling than Randle El.

[Cbz40]

Not yet - but he shows me a higher ceiling than Randle El.


Crayton can at least reach the ceiling.

[skinsngibbs4life]

No its not, were talking pass catching not WR passes.

Randle el has played in every game of his 4 year career. Quit a bit more durable than a guy who cant even play half the season.

[skinsngibbs4life]

Crayton can at least reach the ceiling.

yea, with that two whole inches he has on him :rolleyes:

[Crown Royal]

Randle el has played in every game of his 4 year career. Quit a bit more durable than a guy who cant even play half the season.

No one said he wasn't a better kick returner.

[skinsngibbs4life]

No one said he wasn't a better kick returner.

he also has more yards in his worst year than crayton has ever had. 600 yards as a #3 reciever isnt to bad. Let me know when Crayton ever reaches that.

[TruBlueCowboy]

All the Boys need is a line that can block, and this a top 5 NFL offense. TO, Glenn, Witten, Crayton, pick your poison. And oh yeah, did we mention that we can run when JuJo is healthy? Oh, and if not, his backup had a pretty nifty rookie year last season.

We already know that defense is going to be one of the tops in the league, this is a Super Bowl team if that offense gels too.

[skinsngibbs4life]

All the Boys need is a line that can block, and this a top 5 NFL offense. TO, Glenn, Witten, Crayton, pick your poison. And oh yeah, did we mention that we can run when JuJo is healthy? Oh, and if not, his backup had a pretty nifty rookie year last season.

We already know that defense is going to be one of the tops in the league, this is a Super Bowl team if that offense gels too.

thats a pretty big "if" though. No is doubting what the defense is capable of, but that o-line still has a ways to go to get up to game speed. Without an o-line, (like any other team) the team will suffer

[Crown Royal]

he also has more yards in his worst year than crayton has ever had. 600 yards as a #3 reciever isnt to bad. Let me know when Crayton ever reaches that.

When Crayton plays a whole year (this one) I'll let you know. See my other post - he didn't play as a rookie (wasn't kick returner) and he was injured last year. Those 2 years show have little to do with his talent.

[EGG]

This is just the kind of report that folks look back on when a guy is cut and say "what happened?"

I think we need to change your handle to "Joy-Kill" :cool:

[skinsngibbs4life]

Those 2 years show have little to do with his talent.

talent means nothing if you are always injured.

[skinsscalper]

I might be wrong here (and it's totally possible) but didn't Crayton score more touchdowns than ARE last year? Like I said I could totally be wrong, but if I'm not, I'll take the scores that Crayton puts up (in a little over a half a season) than the yards that ARE puts up any day.

SS

[Bizwah]

talent means nothing if you are always injured.

Always injured?

He was injured once.

But you Skins fans are right.

All our players are crap, all yours are the best ever at their respective positions.

At least, that's what it seems like at ES.

[Bizwah]

I might be wrong here (and it's totally possible) but didn't Crayton score more touchdowns than ARE last year? Like I said I could totally be wrong, but if I'm not, I'll take the scores that Crayton puts up (in a little over a half a season) than the yards that ARE puts up any day.

SS

Yes, but Crayton's a Cowboy player, therefore he's automatically rated below any Skins player.

At least that seems to be the Skins' fans logic.

[lane]

if crayton becomes the receiver i think he is capable of becoming......

we will have a threesome from hell.

[Crown Royal]

talent means nothing if you are always injured.

He was injured once. I don't even know why I am in this debate - I actually like Antwaan Randle El quite a bit. I haven't put him down once yet.

I just think Crayton has a higher ceiling as a wide-out.

[skinsngibbs4life]

Always injured?

He was injured once.

But you Skins fans are right.

All our players are crap, all yours are the best ever at their respective positions.

At least, that's what it seems like at ES.

ok, i weas wrong on that. I looked at his NFL player page, and it said he only played in 8 games his rookie season, so I guess I just made the assumption that he was injured.

[Crown Royal]

ok, i weas wrong on that. I looked at his NFL player page, and it said he only played in 8 games his rookie season, so I guess I just made the assumption that he was injured.

That one was on the coach - for some reason he though Dedric Ward and Terrance Copper were better than he was.

That isn't actually true - they knew since minicamp that Crayton had something, but he was worried he wasn't ready to transition.

(Then came the game against the redskins :suxskins:)

[skinsngibbs4life]

(Then came the game against the redskins :suxskins:)
well, pick your poison, the one where he got jacked by taylor, or the one where he burned taylor?

[Big Dakota]

This is just the kind of report that folks look back on when a guy is cut and say "what happened?"

Maybe he'll get shot and people will love him???

[Bizwah]

That one was on the coach - for some reason he though Dedric Ward and Terrance Copper were better than he was.

That isn't actually true - they knew since minicamp that Crayton had something, but he was worried he wasn't ready to transition.

(Then came the game against the redskins :suxskins:)

It was quite a transition for Crayton....he really is a remarkable story.

He was an NAIA player! That's right, NAIA!

I remember his rookie year, as I'm sure you do....we all heard good reports, but the coaches said it was quite a move for him from NAIA to the NFL.

He's made quite a move to WR from being a QB, RB, KR, DB in college.

If he continues this trend of improvement, then watch out.

[Crown Royal]

well, pick your poison, the one where he got jacked by taylor, or the one where he burned taylor?

Whew - he got jacked hXc - I remember that. We also got a call on it, but it was a clean hit.

Didn't matter - it was thrown beneath the marker and a stupid play. That game sux0red.

[TheKey]

well, you forced me.












:redhomer:

[5Stars]

ok, i weas wrong on that. I looked at his NFL player page, and it said he only played in 8 games his rookie season, so I guess I just made the assumption that he was injured.

Don't worry about Crayton...he won't be a problem when the Boyz play the RedStinks...Crayton is really not THAT good at all...

T.O. might cause some problems for your team, but I think your team can handle him...not a problem.

The Cowboys two tight end formations probably won't work...so that's no problem for your team...and I don't know if little JJ wants to win, or get injured! So, that's not a problem...

The Oline is in shambles...that shoud not be a problem..

Hmmm....as a matter of fact? I think that your team is going all the way!

How about you? :cool:

:star:

[big dog cowboy]

In fact, I believe the drafting of Skyler Green wouldn't have been necessary had the team knew better the status of Crayton at the time of the draft.
BP wanted to upgrade the kick return game. That is why we drafted Green. Anything we get out of him at WR is gravy.

[Dale]

I've never been a big Randel El fan. I have long considered him vastly overrated. He's a good gadget player, but a terrific receiver he is not.

With that said, it'll be interesting to see what he can do in Al Saunders' scheme. He goes from a run-happy offense to one that will surely utilize him to his best abilities as a wideout.

[ghost]

Apparently, third-year wide receiver Patrick Crayton, is better than hot. "You're on fire, Pat. You're on fire!" shouted head coach Bill Parcells near the end of Monday night's practice. Crayton made several nice catches throughout the day, including a deep ball from Tony Romo where the receiver split the corner and safety in a 7-on-7 drill.


Now replace Moss with Crayton, and Romo with Brunell... :D

[5Stars]

Now replace Moss with Crayton, and Romo with Brunell... :D

Let's don't.....;)

:star:

[skinsngibbs4life]

Don't worry about Crayton...he won't be a problem when the Boyz play the RedStinks...Crayton is really not THAT good at all...

T.O. might cause some problems for your team, but I think your team can handle him...not a problem.

The Cowboys two tight end formations probably won't work...so that's no problem for your team...and I don't know if little JJ wants to win, or get injured! So, that's not a problem...

The Oline is in shambles...that shoud not be a problem..

Hmmm....as a matter of fact? I think that your team is going all the way!

How about you? :cool:

:star:

yea, you know what, you all might as well not show up in week 2 if you already know we are going to dominate you:rolleyes:

[5Stars]

yea, you know what, you all might as well not show up in week 2 if you already know we are going to dominate you:rolleyes:

I don't know what you're saying with all this 'you'...'we' stuff....

The Dallas Cowboys will be at the game...I got TIVO...I'll be home.

I'll watch the "dominate" again and again...

How about you?

:star:

[Idgit]

that last one is a real stretch.

Pulleeze. I'd take Crayton over Randel El any day of the week. Crayton's a heck of a WR already, and he's only going to get better.

Randel El accidently stepped into the Slash mystique in Pittsburgh, and he's parlayed that into a career as a backup WR and gadget playmaker. Wow.

[The30YardSlant]

"You're on fire, Pat. You're on fire!"

Hmmm, that looks like.....FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/end obscure Richard Pryor reference]

[Cowboys&Caps]

that last one is a real stretch.

no

its not really look at the stats not the hype buddy

[Cowboys&Caps]

must be TO's second coming :laugh2:

Wait.......when did TO do this??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z24uQdDmPUs&search=patrick%20crayton

[Cowboys&Caps]

talent means nothing if you are always injured.


he has been hurt once......

[koolaid]

Crayton can at least reach the ceiling.

:laugh2: :laugh2:

[The30YardSlant]

must be TO's second coming :laugh2:

At least, that's what Drive By will have us believe

[The30YardSlant]

Santana's mom still puts the sweets on the top shelf so he can't get at them

[Screw The Hall]

well, i wasnt trying to get into anything here, just add a smart allic remark.

but hey, if you want to start comparing, at least take off the blue n silver goggles, crayton better than randle el?


You weren't trying to get into anything by posting an asinine comment on a Cowboy board in a thread that is trying to be positive about one of our own players? ... yeah we believe you too.

By the way do you have any property in the Everglades I can buy from you? It's an easier sale.

[CowboysFan02]

talent means nothing if you are always injured.

Always injured? He got hurt once, might I add that in the process of that injury he hung on to a catch that helped get the Boys' an important 1st down. The man is Mr. Clutch, he seems to be there for the crucial grab, heck his first ever NFL reception was a 1st down and a 3rd and long play deep in Cowboy territory if I remember right.

So yeah Crayton of Randel El any day and twice on Sunday for me.

[Crown Royal]

I feel bad now that I got involved in a bashing thread. As to the Skins fan's original comment - he just said that it would take blue&silver colored goggles to say Crayton is better than Randle El.

I disagree, but that isn't that farfetched. Randle El has a good rep, and has helped his team win, regardless of what we think. He isn't a well rounded WR, but he has made some amazing plays. Ask Hines Ward, who caught a TD pass in the superbowl from Randle El, what he thinks of him as a player. Randle El will always be welcome on a roster for good reason.

That being said, it also isn't outside the realm of possibility that Crayton is a better WR. His only pass in the league was, I believe, an INT at the end of a half, but it was a 'big deal' play. Who cares? Crayton is a fun player to watch, and probably a better WR than Randle El at this point.

As far as excitement on slash plays - well, talk to Parcells for not being as creative as the Pitt DC.

Anyway - my whole point - this shouldn't become a beat-up-the-Redskin-fan thread. I detest ****ing matches between team fans. Back off and get along, jeeze.

[ghost]

Always injured?

He was injured once.

But you Skins fans are right.

All our players are crap, all yours are the best ever at their respective positions.

At least, that's what it seems like at ES.

Well duh.



Face it, most people get out of control on their own message boards. You can look at my posts, I often predict One trillian rushing yards for Clinton Portis. Come on now, thats not even possible.

[Bizwah]

Well duh.



Face it, most people get out of control on their own message boards. You can look at my posts, I often predict One trillian rushing yards for Clinton Portis. Come on now, thats not even possible.

I understand that.....kidding around is ok.

Even the occasional comparison between teams where we choose all our players as the best is ok.

But I was over at ES and was amazed at how crappy we actually are (according to them).

I truly hope the Skins coaches feel the same way.

[Cowboys&Caps]

true

thats what i see the diffrence between the two sites to be, here if asked we would predict between 7-9 and 10-6 for the skins and if the same question were posed at ES the answer would be an highly unrealistic 3-13 to 5-11.

though we really are going 12-4

[anava]

I have been here in Oxnard for a couple of days and Crayton is indeed on fire. I talked to him briefly and told him how impressed I was and that he was impressing for than TO right now. I told him that mainly cause TO has dropped quit a few balls since I have been here, and he jokingly said he thinks TO will be ok.

As far as autographs go today was a real disappointment, everybody ran off the field without siging anything. I was impressed that Crayton spent atleast an hour after practice signing. That is far beyond anything I have seen anybody else do.

[ghost]

Always injured? He got hurt once, might I add that in the process of that injury he hung on to a catch that helped get the Boys' an important 1st down. The man is Mr. Clutch, he seems to be there for the crucial grab, heck his first ever NFL reception was a 1st down and a 3rd and long play deep in Cowboy territory if I remember right.

So yeah Crayton of Randel El any day and twice on Sunday for me.

He sure is clutch when Sean Taylor nearly killed him.


But I must say, that game winner with 30 seconds was amazing, without a shadow of a doubt.


But clutch would be Santana Moss going for 39 THEN 70 yards, in YOUR house, while the Big Three were inducted to the ring of fame. Once could be luck, twice, though, is purely skill.

[ghost]

I understand that.....kidding around is ok.

Even the occasional comparison between teams where we choose all our players as the best is ok.

But I was over at ES and was amazed at how crappy we actually are (according to them).

I truly hope the Skins coaches feel the same way.


Heh, well, we all seem to get carried away with our predictions. I think when people diminish the skills of another team (such as us stating the cowboys are terrible, etc) it is similiar to when teams go into huddles and start shouting things like "They got nothing on us," and so on.

[theogt]

He sure is clutch when Sean Taylor nearly killed him.


But I must say, that game winner with 30 seconds was amazing, without a shadow of a doubt.


But clutch would be Santana Moss going for 39 THEN 70 yards, in YOUR house, while the Big Three were inducted to the ring of fame. Once could be luck, twice, though, is purely skill.A bit off-topic but ... What's the all-time record between the Cowboys and Redskins again? You should learn your role and stick to it. The Cowboys own you historically regardless of the 05 outlier. Learn your role. The Cowboys are more popular and more successful than the Redskins. You may have one or two players that are pretty good, but the Cowboys have an entire history of owning your team.

[Rack Bauer]

A bit off-topic but ... What's the all-time record between the Cowboys and Redskins again? You should learn your role and stick to it. The Cowboys own you historically regardless of the 05 outlier. Learn your role. The Cowboys are more popular and more successful than the Redskins. You may have one or two players that are pretty good, but the Cowboys have an entire history of owning your team.


theogt, give him his time. After his team being completely OWNED for 6-7 seasons, it's about time these losers have SOMETHING to brag about (instead of making stuff up cuz the truth hurt them too much).


They finally have something real to talk trash about after all this time.

Don't worry, the stars have aligned themselves properly again and the cowboys will continue to spank those losers again this season.

[MC KAos]

i hate the redskins, i hate their fans, i think crayton is better than randel el AND loyd. I also think the redskins and the cowboys are the two best teams in the division(unless there are major injuries to one or the other)

[Crown Royal]

I defended the other Skins fan in this thread for making legitimate points.

Ghost is trolling. You suck for that.

[Screw The Hall]

I feel bad now that I got involved in a bashing thread. As to the Skins fan's original comment - he just said that it would take blue&silver colored goggles to say Crayton is better than Randle El.

I disagree, but that isn't that farfetched. Randle El has a good rep, and has helped his team win, regardless of what we think. He isn't a well rounded WR, but he has made some amazing plays. Ask Hines Ward, who caught a TD pass in the superbowl from Randle El, what he thinks of him as a player. Randle El will always be welcome on a roster for good reason.

That being said, it also isn't outside the realm of possibility that Crayton is a better WR. His only pass in the league was, I believe, an INT at the end of a half, but it was a 'big deal' play. Who cares? Crayton is a fun player to watch, and probably a better WR than Randle El at this point.

As far as excitement on slash plays - well, talk to Parcells for not being as creative as the Pitt DC.

Anyway - my whole point - this shouldn't become a beat-up-the-Redskin-fan thread. I detest ****ing matches between team fans. Back off and get along, jeeze.


You shouldn't feel bad because that was not his original comment.

His orginal comment was to announce to the entire free world that Crayton must be the second coming of TO like an . As if by Cogan having the nerve to post anything positive about Crayton, we all were going to confuse the two.

He was fishing for trouble and found it and as a result, what was meant to be a feel good thread, was instead hijacked by the enemy. Then he feigned innocence, which I called him on the carpet for.

[Cogan]

I agree with everything except for the punt returning part.. I'm really glad that we got Skyler Green.. I love Patrick Crayton, he is one of my favs right now, but I don't think he is a very good punt returner at all..

I thought when he got the chance, Crayton was a very good punt returner last year for the Cowboys. Against the Eagles at Dallas, Crayton had 6 returns for 78 yds. for a 13 yd. average. I'll take that every day of the week! Besides, Green had a great sophomore year, and that's about it. I haven't heard a word about him since TC started. I know it's early, but if the guy is so great, shouldn't he be making some great returns by now in ST practice?

As far as the fan? who said that this is just the kind of post where the player gets cut-What do you say to a thing like that? Certain people & what they say should just be ignored just for the vastness of their ignorance.