View Full Version : MIA: Kai Parham
AbeBeta
08-03-2006, 09:38 AM
So I was having my morning coffee. As I pulled out the milk, I saw Kai Parham on the carton.
Wasn't this kid supposed to be a great UDFA pickup? An absolute steal who would be a great fit in our D.
Come to think of it, where in the world is Ollie Hoyte?
RealCowboyfan
08-03-2006, 09:41 AM
So I was having my morning coffee. As I pulled out the milk, I saw Kai Parham on the carton.
Wasn't this kid supposed to be a great UDFA pickup? An absolute steal who would be a great fit in our D.
Come to think of it, where in the world is Ollie Hoyte?
GOOD POINT:starspin
austintodallas
08-03-2006, 09:44 AM
I see a practice squad in his future.
WilmingtonHeel
08-03-2006, 09:44 AM
He maybe doing better than we think. I'll be watching him in preseason. I think Hoyte makes the team over him however
Yeagermeister
08-03-2006, 09:47 AM
They are stuck behind the uber stud Shanle :D
AbeBeta
08-03-2006, 09:48 AM
I see a practice squad in his future.
Not if he can't make it past the first few rounds of cuts.
AbeBeta
08-03-2006, 09:48 AM
They are stuck behind the uber stud Shanle :D
and that tells you all you need to know about their skills.
Yeagermeister
08-03-2006, 09:50 AM
and that tells you all you need to know about their skills.
According to some Shanle is the next all world lb. :rolleyes:
Prancer
08-03-2006, 09:56 AM
I read somewhere, I think it was Grizz's Blogging the Boys, Hoyte is running with the 3rd team defense. But I didn't read anything on Parham.
CrazyCowboy
08-03-2006, 09:58 AM
He was highly rated coming out of high school....
Big Country
08-03-2006, 09:58 AM
According to some Shanle is the next all world lb. :rolleyes:
I thought all the while it was all universe LB.:eek:
Duane
08-03-2006, 09:59 AM
Why are we worried about undrafted rookie free agent linebackers?
boysfanindc
08-03-2006, 10:01 AM
He will be on PS, let's have this discussion next year.
Undrafted Rookie.
EMMITTnROY
08-03-2006, 10:11 AM
It's funny, I was making my 53 man roster prediction last night as I was going to bed.. Cause I'm a nerd and I do things like that before I go to bed.. Anyways, I was predicting the linebackers we would keep, and I thought the exact same thing.. I know the "for sures":
Ware, Ayodele, James, Carpenter, Burnett, Boiman
and I figure we will keep eight of them.. so here are the ones we have left that have a shot:
Singleton, Shanle, Fowler, Parham, Hoyte, Glymph
Of these guys, I think that Singleton will make it because of his experience and because the fact that he is very solid.. Bill knows what he is getting.. Of the rest of the guys, the one that is making the most noise in training camp is actually Glymph from what I've read, so I ended up putting him down in my roster prediction.. I would have thought it woulda been Parham or Hoyte.. honestly, though, it's early, and any of those guys have about the same chance as the other I think..
Yakuza Rich
08-03-2006, 10:12 AM
Come to think of it, where in the world is Ollie Hoyte?
I had heard Hoyte has worked some 2nd team and 3rd team. I was never high on Parham, but I am optimistic on Hoyte.
Rich.........
MichaelWinicki
08-03-2006, 10:41 AM
According to some Shanle is the next all world lb. :rolleyes:
Hey! I think that was a disparaging remark!
Don't you know Scot Shanle is the largest linebacker to ever play the game?
So give up some props!
ABQCOWBOY
08-03-2006, 10:43 AM
Hey! I think that was a disparaging remark!
Don't you know Scot Shanle is the largest linebacker to ever play the game?
So give up some props!
Also, the minnie Shanle is still twice as tough as the regular sized LBs through out the rest of the league.
Never mind the SuperSized versions.
sago1
08-03-2006, 10:55 AM
Glymph (sp?) & Vontrell Jamison were both PS picks at about same time in late 05. Jamison was cut few days ago but Glymph has reportedly looked pretty good; he's a former DE of course. I think competitions going to end up being between Shanle, Fowler & Glymph for the last 8 LB slot.
Also since we haven't heard much from Hoyt & Parham, I think it's save to say they wouldn't make the team unless they play really well in preseason game. If they show enough, they'll be cut and sent to the PS.
AbeBeta
08-03-2006, 11:00 AM
Glymph (sp?) & Vontrell Jamison were both PS picks at about same time in late 05. Jamison was cut few days ago but Glymph has reportedly looked pretty good; he's a former DE of course. I think competitions going to end up being between Shanle, Fowler & Glymph for the last 8 LB slot.
Also since we haven't heard much from Hoyt & Parham, I think it's save to say they wouldn't make the team unless they play really well in preseason game. If they show enough, they'll be cut and sent to the PS.
I'm going to go ahead and bet that Kai isn't making it past the first cut.
I really think that Bill likes Fowler and that he'll remain on the team.
austintodallas
08-03-2006, 11:02 AM
Who is bigger...mini Shanle or little Als?
Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:07 AM
Hey! I think that was a disparaging remark!
Don't you know Scot Shanle is the largest linebacker to ever play the game?
So give up some props!
yeah, I heard he's so big that he makes Al Singleton look like 220 pounds :D
Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:07 AM
Who is bigger...mini Shanle or little Als?
mini-Romo
Yeagermeister
08-03-2006, 11:50 AM
mini-Romo
mini moxie also?:D
jazzcat22
08-03-2006, 11:54 AM
He will be on PS, let's have this discussion next year.
Undrafted Rookie.
Right.
Even though he looked great in college, and looked faster than he is. Remember most the guys he played against, aren't going to be in the NFL. He supposedly had a bad 40 time, and you need that speed for an NFL LB.
parchy
08-03-2006, 11:55 AM
I'm really pulling for Parham. That guy is money when it comes to 3-4 defenses. The only thing that will hold him back is his conditioning, which appeared to be less than it should have been.
AbeBeta
08-03-2006, 12:06 PM
I'm really pulling for Parham. That guy is money when it comes to 3-4 defenses. The only thing that will hold him back is his conditioning, which appeared to be less than it should have been.
don't let the little ball of hate get a whiff of that -- she'll write an article about it.
StonetheCrow77
08-03-2006, 12:15 PM
I think Fowler is the one we need to be watching... he had a great couple games toward the end... he is a demon against the run...
Hiero
08-03-2006, 12:18 PM
I think Fowler is the one we need to be watching... he had a great couple games toward the end... he is a demon against the run...
ya this is true, but I think imo fowler is almost a sure thing to make the team. Parham I hope he makes it, he had a killer year at UVA he just needs to have a year of better conditioning under him,.
Yeagermeister
08-03-2006, 12:24 PM
I think Fowler is the one we need to be watching... he had a great couple games toward the end... he is a demon against the run...
I liked what I saw from Fowler also.
RockyMountainFan
08-03-2006, 12:32 PM
I think Fowler is the one we need to be watching... he had a great couple games toward the end... he is a demon against the run...
Not sure what games you were watching but when Fowler was starting last December our defense was run over.
Its Al Singleton and Kevin Burnett battling to be Carpenters backup. Carpenter if not day 1 starter will be starting by mid season.
OLB opposite backing up Ware will be an interesting battle with Burnett potentially there and Ellis fighting for a LB role. At best he's a situational pass rusher if not traded.
That leaves Fowler, Shanle, Boiman, Hoyte battling for 2 spots. Shanle has the best cover skills of the group and has a lot of BP experience and should easily make team. My money is on Fowler also and Hoyte to Practice squad. Parham gets sent out of here early. Boiman is JAG and a potential cut.
wileedog
08-03-2006, 12:44 PM
Boiman is JAG and a potential cut.
Boiman was Tenn's best ST player last year. He'll stick for that and depth alone.
Clove
08-03-2006, 01:03 PM
I think Fowler is the one we need to be watching... he had a great couple games toward the end... he is a demon against the run...I have to echo that thought. If you watched the last couple of games when they actually let Fowler play, he was in the back field on a normal basis.
That's something we've not seen in a long time from a Cowboys player. A Linebacker consistantly in the opposing teams back field every other down or so.
I say drop Singleton, keep Fowler and Glymph, or keep Singleton and put Glymph on the PS. But before I do all of that, let me see a few Pre-season games. :)
Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 01:06 PM
Boiman was Tenn's best ST player last year. He'll stick for that and depth alone.
yep, and add the fact that he's looking like he would make for a pretty nice return on that little investment we made in him
kiheikiwi
08-03-2006, 01:10 PM
Still not ready to cut Parham, long way to go in camp yet. If he does get in better condition, people will see that he is better when the bullets are flying, than doing drills or running.Lets watch him in the pre-season before we wright him off.
silverbear
08-03-2006, 01:15 PM
So I was having my morning coffee. As I pulled out the milk, I saw Kai Parham on the carton.
Wasn't this kid supposed to be a great UDFA pickup? An absolute steal who would be a great fit in our D.
Come to think of it, where in the world is Ollie Hoyte?
Candidly, I don't think either one will make the team... they both have good instincts for the position, but are just too slow for the NFL game...
stasheroo
08-03-2006, 01:22 PM
Not sure what games you were watching but when Fowler was starting last December our defense was run over.
Not sure what games you were watching?
Fowler played well whenever he had the opportunity and the Cowboys didn't get "run over" in any of the games he started - including Thanksgiving Day against the Broncos. Their running game was contained until "Killer" Davis blew the tackle on Dayne.
Fowler played well.
Its Al Singleton and Kevin Burnett battling to be Carpenters backup. Carpenter if not day 1 starter will be starting by mid season.
Wrong again. Burnett is backing up on Ware's side and starting in the nickel. Carpenter is running third behind both Ellis and Singleton. He's actually playing some at inside 'backer.
OLB opposite backing up Ware will be an interesting battle with Burnett potentially there and Ellis fighting for a LB role. At best he's a situational pass rusher if not traded.
Again, Ellis is starting on the opposite side at this point. It seems that Carpenter will have to earn whatever playing time he gets.
That leaves Fowler, Shanle, Boiman, Hoyte battling for 2 spots. Shanle has the best cover skills of the group and has a lot of BP experience and should easily make team. My money is on Fowler also and Hoyte to Practice squad. Parham gets sent out of here early. Boiman is JAG and a potential cut.
They've invested money in Boiman and given his versatlity, he'll stick. Fowler isn't eligible for the practice squad anymore. If Parham continues to be invisible, he'll be cut quickly. There's too much competition for reps.
Fowler has done nothing but play well when given the chance. Why cut a guy like that?
Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 01:32 PM
Fowler has done nothing but play well when given the chance. Why cut a guy like that?
exactly, didn't he have like 11 stops vs. St. Louis?
stasheroo
08-03-2006, 01:35 PM
exactly, didn't he have like 11 stops vs. St. Louis?
NFL.com shows 10 Total Tackles with 9 solo.
Either way, not too shabby......
Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 01:36 PM
NFL.com shows 10 Total Tackles with 9 solo.
Either way, not too shabby......
true, but I'll play Devil's Advocate for a moment, Shanle had 10 stops against Nawlins a couple of years ago, so...
:D
Yeagermeister
08-03-2006, 01:53 PM
Shanle is 10 feet tall and shoots fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his arse.
:storm:
AbeBeta
08-03-2006, 03:04 PM
NFL.com shows 10 Total Tackles with 9 solo.
Either way, not too shabby......
Can ya say "garbage time"?
stasheroo
08-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Can ya say "garbage time"?
Can you say "damed if ya do, damed if ya don't?"
AbeBeta
08-03-2006, 03:13 PM
Can you say "damed if ya do, damed if ya don't?"
Hey, at least he was actually giving some effort in that game. Unlike Allen, Gurode, Tucker, etc.
stasheroo
08-03-2006, 03:22 PM
Hey, at least he was actually giving some effort in that game. Unlike Allen, Gurode, Tucker, etc.
Exactly!
Then why call it garbage time?
MONT17
08-03-2006, 03:47 PM
I am SCOTT SHANLE... Wallace.... William... SCOTT WALLACE... WALLACE WILLIAM... I AM WILLIAM SCOTT!!
CUT!!!!
KingTuna
08-03-2006, 04:36 PM
I've heard NOTHING about him at all..I am very hopeful that he will be an impact player that we stole!!
Rockytop6
08-03-2006, 07:34 PM
It's funny, I was making my 53 man roster prediction last night as I was going to bed.. Cause I'm a nerd and I do things like that before I go to bed.. Anyways, I was predicting the linebackers we would keep, and I thought the exact same thing.. I know the "for sures":
Ware, Ayodele, James, Carpenter, Burnett, Boiman
and I figure we will keep eight of them.. so here are the ones we have left that have a shot:
Singleton, Shanle, Fowler, Parham, Hoyte, Glymph
Of these guys, I think that Singleton will make it because of his experience and because the fact that he is very solid.. Bill knows what he is getting.. Of the rest of the guys, the one that is making the most noise in training camp is actually Glymph from what I've read, so I ended up putting him down in my roster prediction.. I would have thought it woulda been Parham or Hoyte.. honestly, though, it's early, and any of those guys have about the same chance as the other I think..
I wouldn't be surprised if BP kept 9 this season. I too have heard more about Glymph than any of the other UDFAs. Whoever is best is who I want. I would really like for one or two FA lbs to make the team. When they do it is like having another draft pick.
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