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Shuttemdown41
08-03-2006, 07:43 PM
Courtesy of Grizz from bloggingtheboys.com

Thursday, Aug 2nd (2-4 PM practice)

Dallas Cowboys fans can come back in off the ledge. While I wouldn't classify the offense as a juggernaut in today's practice, they did show some signs of life and held their own against the defense.

Of course, the big news is that Terrell Owens didn't practice today, the result of a sore left hamstring. Also, Justin Beriault hasn't practiced in a few days and you've got to start wondering if his knee injury is not responding well. Andre Gurode worked with the first team at center and Jay Ratliff continues to start in place of Marcus Spears. Greg Ellis has basically taken over the SOLB on the 1st unit and Bobby Carpenter is still working at WILB with the 2nd team. Marc Colombo remains at RT, followed by Fabini then Petitti. Kevin Burnett and Al Singleton are the OLBers on the 2nd team and Pat Watkins is playing FS on the 2nd unit in place of Beriault.

The team ran through their customary start of practice with some half-speed formation drills, then ran sprints and stretched. After that they broke into position drills but it was different today. There was a lot of chatter among the players; shouts of "let's go" and "come on" could be heard all over the field and they were sprinting to their areas on the field. This leads me to believe that after yesterday's debacle Parcells had a talk with his team, telling them he needs them to focus on what they're doing and show some energy and passion. It's just speculation on my part but you could tell they were a little more active today.

During the position drills Paul Pasqualoni was giving Rocky Boiman the business on a "mirror" drill, telling him to "keep on his hip, I don't care how slow he's [Carpenter] moving or where he goes, you keep on his hip"! Kacy Rodgers, in a much more subdued tone, was telling Thomas Johnson to "show me a little more presence in that hole, I need you in that `A' gap" when they were hitting the blocking sled. I was praising Sam Hurd this morning but he dropped a ball in the WR drills. While all this was going on Vanderjagt and Suisham were trying to kick FG's from the side-line from about 20 yards out. Talk about a tough angle!

They broke off into RB/TE vs. LB/S coverage drills and WR/CB coverage drills. I watched a little bit of each. Over on the RB/TE vs. LB/S side the offense was almost always winning; Polite beat Davis, but Glymph had smothering coverage on someone (I couldn't see) and Bledsoe didn't even bother to throw the ball. Then MB3 beat Willie Pile, Tony Curtis beat Bradie James, Tyson Thompson beat M. Coleman, and Fasano took Shanle. Witten beat Glymph, Summers beat Watkins, JJ bested Roy and Hannam was the victor over Ellis.

I got bored watching the offense win all the time so I started watching the WR vs. CB battles. J.R Tolver made a great catch to win his battle, Rector beat N. Jones, Sam Hurd beat Reeves, but Newman deflected the ball away from Skyler Green. Miles Austin took care of Quincy Butler, then Crayton made a fantastic catch on a long ball beating tight coverage by A. Glenn. Anthony Henry smothered Copper, and Rector made a great move to beat Lenny Williams. Reeves had good coverage on Tolver, then Skyler beat Jones but it was bad pass so he didn't catch it. Sam Hurd used a sweet double-move to cook Butler, and Terry Glenn used a double-move to shake loose Terence Newman but it was another bad pass. Henry finished the drill by knocking the ball away from Miles.

They worked on kickoffs next and Vanderjagt was not involved again. Suisham had kicks to the 5-yd line, 2-yd line, and the 10-yd line. Fredrickson had kicks to the goal line, 2-yds deep and the 4-yd line. Next it was FG's and Vandy hit from short distance straight away but missed on an angle from short distance. He hit from medium range and hit from an angle at medium range. Suisham followed the exact same pattern.

The team gathered for some 7-on-7 work while the OL/DL battles were going at the other end. Even though I love watching the OL/DL drills the players were blocking my view so I settled for the 7-on-7. Bledsoe went first and had his first pass to Witten broken up by Bradie James. He then hit Copper on a short crossing pattern, dumped one off to Tyson Thompson with Roy in coverage and hit Crayton on a short pass. Romo hit Glenn on a quick-out, dumped one off to Demtrius Summers, threw the next one away out-of-bounds and hit Polite in front of Carpenter. Henson hit Hannam on an out pattern, hit Glenn who was wide-open in the middle of the field, connected with Austin on an out pattern and then threw the last one out-of-bounds as Summers was covered in the flats.

Then it was on to some 11-on-11 and Bledsoe came out first. He hit Fasano who was wide-open in the flats, dumped to JJ in the middle of the field, then handed off to JJ on a run up the middle that was minimally successful. I missed his next play and some of Romo's plays because I was getting the news about Owens sore left hammy.

Once I was back watching, Romo handed off to MB3 up the middle but went nowhere, then threw a 15-yarder to Copper on the side-line. He hit Rector on a nice pass and catch, then MB3 showed some nifty moves in traffic on a middle-run to pick up good yards. Thompson finished the series up with a run that was OK.

Henson threw a good pass to Tolver but he dropped it, then ran a bootleg that resulted in a nice gain for Sean Ryan on the catch. They ran a sweep to Thompson and Petitti got out front and destroyed poor Nate Jones and they got some good yardage. But the refs called a penalty. That's right, during the practice they had 6 refs out there calling penalties, making rulings on catches and out-of-bounds plays and the like. Anyway, on the next play Tolver made a catch over the middle, Henson hit Polite who was wide-open in the flats, and Kincaide ran through a huge hole in the middle opened up by Tarullo and Procter. On the last play, Henson threw a long bomb and laid it out there perfectly to Sam Hurd, who had beaten his man, but he let the ball drop through his hands as the crowd groaned.

But, as you can see, the offense actually did pretty well compared to yesterday. We didn't hear too much out of Tuna today, either.

After the water break they ran some 7-on-7 in the redzone. Bledsoe threw what should've been an INT to Henry, but Henry dropped the ball and had to do push-ups on the side-line after the series was over. Fasano made a great one-handed catch during the series and Roy broke up a bullet pass to Witten. Romo's series held little of interest except for a Crayton drop and Henson had a poor series, but did give Glenn a chance to catch a TD on a fade-stop pattern, but Glenn couldn't pull it in.

Next they ran 11-on-11 against the nickel and other pass defenses. Bledsoe hit Crayton who beat Newman, then Henry stripped the ball away from Crayton on the next play. On Romo's series he threw an INT on a diving catch by Marcus Coleman, which naturally cause the defense to whoop and holler. Kenyon Coleman almost sacked Romo and Chris Canty batted the pass down on Romo's last play. Henson hit Skyler on a crossing pattern but had Tolver drop a pass that admittedly would've been a tough catch.

After working on punts with the object being to down the ball as close to the goal line as possible, the finished practice doing 11-on-11 in the redzone. Bledsoe ran a sweep with JJ, had Henry break up a pass to Copper, had one blocked at the line, handed off to JJ again then hit Terry Glenn on a diving catch in the endzone for a TD. This of course set off a celebration on the offense. On Romo's first play he gunned a TD to Tony Curtis, then MB3 ran a sweep that Carpenter shut down, threw an incomplete pass, then Kenyon Coleman busted through the line and stuffed an MB3 run. He finished the series by hitting Polite for a TD off of play-action. Henson ran a draw to Thompson for not much, had to scramble out-of-bounds, then had a bad exchange with the running back leading to a fumble that Abraham Elam recovered. He hit Crayton for a TD on a great catch, then overthrew Crayton on the fade.

That was it. But the offense was much crisper today and gave the defense all it could handle. Parcells wasn't interested in having another day like yesterday and the players responded. Tomorrow's a two-a-day so you get two reports for the price of one.

theogt
08-03-2006, 07:45 PM
I love these. It's like Christmas every day.

burmafrd
08-03-2006, 07:48 PM
Good to hear. THANKS.

big dog cowboy
08-03-2006, 07:50 PM
Also, Justin Beriault hasn't practiced in a few days and you've got to start wondering if his knee injury is not responding well.
Or maybe he is still feeling the after affects of a concussion?????

Quit trying to read something into nothing. Find out the truth then let us know the real story.

big dog cowboy
08-03-2006, 07:53 PM
Dallas Cowboys fans can come back in off the ledge. While I wouldn't classify the offense as a juggernaut in today's practice, they did show some signs of life and held their own against the defense.

But the offense was much crisper today and gave the defense all it could handle. Parcells wasn't interested in having another day like yesterday and the players responded.
That is good news. I don't expect our O to put up 31-34 points each game but it would be nice if we didn't have to rely on the D winning all our games for us.

proline
08-03-2006, 08:00 PM
I take it Mroz was nowhere to be seen today?

dmq
08-03-2006, 08:02 PM
I really think our offense ran better w/o TO because our QBs just don't have the timing down on him. That is just gonna take time.

Grizz
08-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Or maybe he is still feeling the after affects of a concussion?????

Quit trying to read something into nothing. Find out the truth then let us know the real story.
Perhaps you missed this quote by Parcells the other day:

Parcells said he's also concerned about Beriault's right knee, which underwent microfracture and osteotomy surgery last September to repair torn medial and lateral meniscus.
But you could be right, I was just making a speculation. No harm, no foul.

As to the question about Mroz, you are correct, I didn't see him run a single play today.

stealth
08-03-2006, 08:13 PM
i may be the only polite fan but I love me some lousaka

WoodysGirl
08-03-2006, 08:19 PM
i may be the only polite fan but I love me some lousakaActually that's been Hostile's boy from day one. It's that former FB in him.

So you're not alone.

diehard2294
08-03-2006, 08:22 PM
not sure where he is getting this from, Ellis comes in for Singelton on passing downs, gurode has been with the first group since tuesdays practice

CowboyManDan
08-03-2006, 08:23 PM
Great post, thanks.

Sounds like Henson's progressing. I liked that one stretch there where: "Henson hit Hannam on an out pattern, hit Glenn who was wide-open in the middle of the field, connected with Austin on an out pattern and then threw the last one out-of-bounds as Summers was covered in the flats."

Better yet, it sounds like all 3 QBs were solid in the goal line situation.

Surprised Carpenter is playing WILB. Think this is just to give Ellis more reps? But Carp probably needs the reps just as bad, so I'm guessing they're serious about Ellis at OLB, at least in pass rushing situations.

America's Team
08-03-2006, 08:40 PM
nice job, 2 a days are good for us but for the players they arent so enjoyable

Gibby!
08-03-2006, 09:28 PM
I take it Mroz was nowhere to be seen today?

The Dallas Morning News
• For the Yalies out there, it appears the end is nearing for undrafted rookie QB Jeff Mroz. For the first time in camp, he was not in the seven-on-seven or team drills rotation.

http://www.cowboys.beloblog.com/

Kittymama
08-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Great read! I'll admit, I was one of those--not on the ledge, but starting to think about opening the window--so I'm happy to hear the offense may be improving. I wasn't going to start really panicking until next week or so, but was ready to unlatch the window!

Grizz--your blog is the best! WAAAYYY better than any of the "professional" writers are doing.

BlueStar22
08-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Roy broke up a bullet pass to Witten. WHO said Roy can't cover?

dargonking999
08-03-2006, 09:49 PM
WHO said Roy can't cover?


WEll during his first few years he couldnt.

Now that he has some good coaching, he can.

We can re-hash all day long, Roy coulndt cover, he was a LB in a Saftey's body, but with the re-tooling of Parcells, this guys skills is just being seen.

Cochese
08-03-2006, 09:58 PM
WEll during his first few years he couldnt.

Now that he has some good coaching, he can.

We can re-hash all day long, Roy coulndt cover, he was a LB in a Saftey's body, but with the re-tooling of Parcells, this guys skills is just being seen.
Of course, this IS only training camp, as well as being only a 7 on 7 drill, in the red zone.

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 10:00 PM
Of course, this IS only training camp, as well as being only a 7 on 7 drill, in the red zone.

Lighten up man, don't be Donnie

Cochese
08-03-2006, 10:03 PM
Lighten up man, don't be Donnie

Im not trying to be, just making a point that its not exactly Santana Moss on a fly route. Hopefully that aspect of his game continues to improve this season.

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 10:05 PM
Im not trying to be, just making a point that its not exactly Santana Moss on a fly route. Hopefully that aspect of his game continues to improve this season.

Worry about Aaron Glenn then

Cowboy Bebop
08-03-2006, 11:02 PM
Lighten up man, don't be Donnie

Don't get sandy because he made a disparaging remark about your boyfriend.

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:03 PM
Don't get sandy because he made a disparaging remark about your boyfriend.

Wow, you're funny :rolleyes:

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:07 PM
looks like Henson did quite nice today

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:11 PM
looks like Henson did quite nice today

I agree, he finally figured out that the laces are there for a reason

Cowboy Bebop
08-03-2006, 11:13 PM
Wow, you're funny :rolleyes:

Yah I guess it doesn't have the same ring that "Donnie " does eh? Alliteration = automatically funny.

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:20 PM
I agree, he finally figured out that the laces are there for a reason

yeah, he could be throwing another pick *COUGH* Romo *COUGH*

what is that? 4 in 2 days?

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:22 PM
yeah, he could be throwing another pick *COUGH* Romo *COUGH*

what is that? 4 in 2 days?

Bledsoe threw what, 3? 4?

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:25 PM
Bledsoe threw what, 3? 4?

we don't have to worry about Bledsoe, we've seen him in action, ROmo's supposed to be the answer w/o ever playing a down

MOXIE! :lmao2:

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:26 PM
Yah I guess it doesn't have the same ring that "Donnie " does eh? Alliteration = automatically funny.

Alliteration is always funny. If it wasnt, Will Farrell would be out of a job

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:27 PM
we don't have to worry about Bledsoe, we've seen him in action, ROmo's supposed to be the answer w/o ever playing a down

MOXIE! :lmao2:

Laugh all you want, but Henson is nothing more than an afterthought at this point. It is longer a debate between Henson and Romo for backup, but between Bledsoe and Romo for QB in 2007.

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:28 PM
Laugh all you want, but Henson is nothing more than an afterthought at this point. It is longer a debate between Henson and Romo for backup, but between Bledsoe and Romo for QB in 2007.

I'm relieved, Henson's future is safe

all I needed was to see you say the contrary...

Manster68
08-03-2006, 11:29 PM
Great post, thanks.

Sounds like Henson's progressing. I liked that one stretch there where: "Henson hit Hannam on an out pattern, hit Glenn who was wide-open in the middle of the field, connected with Austin on an out pattern and then threw the last one out-of-bounds as Summers was covered in the flats."

Better yet, it sounds like all 3 QBs were solid in the goal line situation.

Surprised Carpenter is playing WILB. Think this is just to give Ellis more reps? But Carp probably needs the reps just as bad, so I'm guessing they're serious about Ellis at OLB, at least in pass rushing situations.

Really?

I tought Carpenter would be a natural inside backer in the Harry Carson mode.

You know, big, strong, fast, instinctive...

It looks to me like Carpenter, Burnett, James, and Ayodele are all capable of playing any of the four linebacker positions.

I'll take that diversity any day.

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:31 PM
I'm relieved, Henson's future is safe

all I needed was to see you say the contrary...

I don't really care. I said from last year's camp on that Henson would never even be ahead of Romo again on the Dallas depth chart, let alone our starter. All those who said Henson would be our backup no doubt this year will look mighty foolish around this time next month.

Cochese
08-03-2006, 11:34 PM
I don't really care. I said from last year's camp on that Henson would never even be ahead of Romo again on the Dallas depth chart, let alone our starter. All those who said Henson would be our backup no doubt this year will look mighty foolish around this time next month.

Come on dude, he had like the second best QB rating in NFLE playing with a bunch of scrubs. Its not like his completion percentage was 10 points lower than someone named Gibran.

:lmao2:

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:34 PM
All those who said Henson would be our backup no doubt this year will look mighty foolish around this time next month.

I know I won't be looking foolish, cuz unlike them, and you, I dont' like foot in my mouth, doesn't taste very good, so I hold off on predicting unknowns

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:35 PM
Come on dude, he had like the second best QB rating in NFLE playing with a bunch of scrubs. Its not like his completion percentage was 10 points lower than someone named Gibran.

:lmao2:

I know, did you see that fade route he threw over Ahkmed Ackbad Al-Jahzir St. Louis, the best corner in all of Europe? That was really something else :rolleyes:

The30YardSlant
08-03-2006, 11:36 PM
I know I won't be looking foolish, cuz unlike them, and you, I dont' like foot in my mouth, doesn't taste very good, so I hold off on predicting unknowns

I just predicted the obvious

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:37 PM
I just predicted the obvious

well in your case, the obvious is very oblivious, and wrong

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:37 PM
Come on dude, he had like the second best QB rating in NFLE playing with a bunch of scrubs. Its not like his completion percentage was 10 points lower than someone named Gibran.

:lmao2:

wait, who's thrown more picks in TC?

Cochese
08-03-2006, 11:39 PM
wait, who's thrown more picks in TC?

Right, 9 practices into training camp and you are keeping track of INT's allready? Stunning, really.

KD
08-03-2006, 11:42 PM
Seriously Shuttemdown41 , thank u so much.

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:43 PM
Right, 9 practices into training camp and you are keeping track of INT's allready? Stunning, really.

I'm not keeping track, they just jump out at me, it's not like Romo has the skills to do nothing except drive the bus, yet he can hardly do that in TC

Romo, you can't make plays, give it up man, you aint Favre

Cochese
08-03-2006, 11:45 PM
I'm not keeping track, they just jump out at me, it's not like Romo has the skills to do nothing except drive the bus, yet he can hardly do that in TC

Romo, you can't make plays, give it up man, you aint Favre

And Henson isnt even Hutch yet, whats your point?

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:45 PM
And Henson isnt even Hutch yet, whats your point?

this is going on year 3 for Henson w/ BP, I'd say he's well past Hutch

and my point is Romo won't be a starting QB unless he learns how to play to his limitations

Cochese
08-03-2006, 11:47 PM
this is going on year 3 for Henson w/ BP, I'd say he's well past Hutch

Hutch has atleast finished games in the NFL before, but Im not trying to act like he isnt a sack of crap of player.

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:49 PM
Hutch has atleast finished games in the NFL before, but Im not trying to act like he isnt a sack of crap of player.

:jerk:

we'll see when Romo is meddling around somewhere as a backup while Henson is still a Cowboy

Cochese
08-03-2006, 11:49 PM
:jerk:

we'll see when Romo is meddling around somewhere as a backup while Henson is still a Cowboy

You keep thinking that. Another former baseball player, another future fry cook.

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:50 PM
You keep thinking that. Another former baseball player, another future fry cook.

let's see, hmm, Henson? 6 years remaining on his deal, ROmo? 1

do the math

Cochese
08-03-2006, 11:53 PM
1. Drew Bledsoe
2. Tony Romo





3. Drew Henson



Do the math.

Bob Sacamano
08-03-2006, 11:54 PM
1. Drew Bledsoe
2. Tony Romo





3. Drew Henson



Do the math.

oh, we already have the depth chart set? and who are you again?

Bob Sacamano
08-04-2006, 12:00 AM
disclaimer: sorry to the rest of you guys, I dont' usually get into these pointless debates, just it's late and HH31 started in on me with yet another idiotic comment, which I think is his trademark, and JustSaynotoTO had to jump in because he's mad that Henson can play 2 sports while he can't play any

again, sorry

Cochese
08-04-2006, 12:04 AM
disclaimer: sorry to the rest of you guys, I dont' usually get into these pointless debates, just it's late and HH31 started in on me with yet another idiotic comment, which I think is his trademark, and JustSaynotoTO had to jump in because he's mad that Henson can play 2 sports while he can't play any

again, sorry

Hey, if you want to call Henson flunking out of baseball and barely playing football as playing two sports, then so be it.

cwalk
08-04-2006, 02:28 AM
Thanks Man That Was Great!!!!!

CrazyCowboy
08-04-2006, 06:20 AM
Keep those great reports coming....wish I was there this year!

tunahelper
08-04-2006, 07:08 AM
Great stuff shuttemdown41!
I am in need of info...

The30YardSlant
08-04-2006, 09:44 AM
let's see, hmm, Henson? 6 years remaining on his deal, ROmo? 1

do the math

And guess who Dallas is in contract negotiations with? :rolleyes:

Vintage
08-04-2006, 09:46 AM
Quincy Carter > Hutchinson, Romo, Henson

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

You know..for a whole "new" element.

skicat1898
08-04-2006, 10:13 AM
Are you jhalp formally from the demised FWST board? Your dislike of Henson sounds very familiar.

Henson, like it or not has looked the best so far out of all 4 QBs, especially the past 3 practices. Romo is getting the closer look because it is his contract year,,, they are not in negotiations with Romo at this time but likely will be at some point during the season IF he proves worthy. They could just as easy see what the market bares for him at the end of the season and make a better offer if they feel he is worth it.

Henson has this year plus 4 more on his current contract, no need to rush him, that is why most of the attention is on Romo at this point. And if Romo doesn't pick it up a bit, he is going to miss out on his chance.

skicat1898
08-04-2006, 10:16 AM
Quincy, a washed up druggie that can't land a job is better than Hutch, Romo and Henson??? Not likely. I'll give you him being better than Hutch, but Romo and Henson are both still in the NFL and still Cowboys.

Vintage
08-04-2006, 10:17 AM
Quincy, a washed up druggie that can't land a job is better than Hutch, Romo and Henson??? Not likely. I'll give you him being better than Hutch, but Romo and Henson are both still in the NFL and still Cowboys.

Quincy lead us to the playoffs. Quincy was a winner. He had moxie. He had the arm strength and mobility to move and throw on the run.

Henson has done jack. Same for Romo.


(4 more pages, EASY)

skicat1898
08-04-2006, 10:21 AM
Quincy rode the coat tails of the #1 rated defense that year. Granted, he did make some plays, showed some flashes of greatness, but in the end his inconsistant talent and love of the illeagal herb did him in. I don't hate the guy, he just isn't a NFL QB.

burmafrd
08-04-2006, 10:21 AM
you copied that from kartr. PLAGIARISM!!!!

Vintage
08-04-2006, 10:25 AM
Quincy rode the coat tails of the #1 rated defense that year. Granted, he did make some plays, showed some flashes of greatness, but in the end his inconsistant talent and love of the illeagal herb did him in. I don't hate the guy, he just isn't a NFL QB.

If inconsistant = making the playoffs, I want an inconsistant QB ALL THE TIME !!!111!11!

Furthermore, QC was a gamer. Not the prettiest Qb....but he won. He was a winner. His playoff victories speak for themselves.

WoodysGirl
08-04-2006, 10:28 AM
Quincy Carter > Hutchinson, Romo, Henson

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

You know..for a whole "new" element.Now I hate you. :mad:

WoodysGirl
08-04-2006, 10:29 AM
Quincy lead us to the playoffs. Quincy was a winner. He had moxie. He had the arm strength and mobility to move and throw on the run.

Henson has done jack. Same for Romo.


(4 more pages, EASY)I really, really hate you now. :mad:

Vintage
08-04-2006, 10:29 AM
Now I hate you. :mad:

Bah.

Haters want to hate, then its there loss....

You're just jealous because you aren't behind the Pwat movement. :p:

Let me help you....

Pwat > Woodson

OMGWTHBBG??!?!?!?!?!?

skicat1898
08-04-2006, 10:30 AM
Not gonna argue with you about a QB not good enough to make a CFL team...... Don't idolize a man who does drugs and fathers illigetimate children which he doesn't support, it makes your values and morals look bad. Football is just a kids game played by men, life is more important and Quincy doesn't even have the talent to succeed in that, I hope he gets the help he needs.

Vintage
08-04-2006, 10:31 AM
Not gonna argue with you about a QB not good enough to make a CFL team...... Don't idolize a man who does drugs and fathers illigetimate children which he doesn't support, it makes your values and morals look bad. Football is just a kids game played by men, life is more important and Quincy doesn't even have the talent to succeed in that, I hope he gets the help he needs.

We shouldn't idolize or support Irvin and what he did for our team then?

Does that make our Super Bowls with him tainted?

This time, I am being serious....

skicat1898
08-04-2006, 10:34 AM
I don't idolize Irvin, but I do acknowledge his talent on the field. I view him as a future HOF'er that deserves to be there based on what he did on the field. I in no way endorse what he has done off the field.

Vintage
08-04-2006, 10:37 AM
I don't idolize Irvin, but I do acknowledge his talent on the field. I view him as a future HOF'er that deserves to be there based on what he did on the field. I in no way endorse what he has done off the field.

And did I say I idolize QC in any way, which was what you were alluding to in the "he does drugs and has illegitimate children" post of yours?

Which was why I was curious about your opinion on Irvin.

WoodysGirl
08-04-2006, 10:39 AM
Bah.

Haters want to hate, then its there loss....

You're just jealous because you aren't behind the Pwat movement. :p:

Let me help you....

Pwat > Woodson

OMGWTHBBG??!?!?!?!?!?

Outside of the wack nickname, you lose all credibility with that statement. Got no reason to take anything you say seriously now. :p:

It's Spiderman 4ever baby.

~stepping back and taking a sip of haterade~:cool:

Cowboy Bebop
08-04-2006, 11:09 AM
disclaimer: sorry to the rest of you guys, I dont' usually get into these pointless debates, just it's late and HH31 started in on me with yet another idiotic comment, which I think is his trademark, and JustSaynotoTO had to jump in because he's mad that Henson can play 2 sports while he can't play any

again, sorry

That's bs, all you do is get in to pointless debates.

Wimbo
08-04-2006, 11:57 AM
Ok, trying to pull this thread back on topic...

What about Ware? I didn't see him mentioned in that report. Also, in this situation, does Ware take part in the 7 on 7 drills, or the OL vs DL drills?

CowboysFaninDC
08-04-2006, 12:10 PM
Quincy lead us to the playoffs. Quincy was a winner. He had moxie. He had the arm strength and mobility to move and throw on the run.

Henson has done jack. Same for Romo.


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he also liked to light it up, would you put your entire franchise's future in the hands of someone who would light it up? can you trust that he will be there? can you trust he will remember the play in the huddle? reliability counts in today's NFL. he couldn't be counted on. if he was any good, the Jets and many others would hang on to him. There is no wonder that he is not playing any longer and he is not being given a chance. and don't fool yourself into thinking he lead us to playoffs, the #1 defense, a soft schedule also helped.

Cochese
08-04-2006, 12:19 PM
Quincy is/was and will always be a piece of crap, but right now his 2003 season is the stuff of Drew Hensons wildest wet dreams.