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TruBlueCowboy
08-05-2006, 06:51 PM
I'm guessing that our own Bill Parcells will introduce Curtis Martin when he's inducted. Those two have some serious man love going on. Martin followed him to the Jets, and then there's that story about the trophy.

Michael Irvin probably owes it to his wife after she's stuck with him through all that. (Yes, cheapshot, I know) It would be cool though to see him pick Jimmy Johnson, the man who brought him through college and the pros.

Emmitt Smith? Emmitt seems like a family guy. I bet pops, his wife, or someone close in the family is going to represent him.

Deion Sanders? Not much of a team guy, can't think of anyone having a big influence on him. Maybe his preacher or whoever turned him to God?

Larry Allen? Really shy and reserved fella. I think Larry is one of the players who might pick Jerry Jones, but I'm sure he'll find an influence from his high school or college days. Probably someone who made him noticeable to the NFL in that little college he played for.

Jerry Jones? There's a small chance he might go to the HOF because of all the changes he has brought. I'm guessing Stephen Jones is the man. Possibly his old lady.

Charles Haley? I know his daughter was really sick and didn't have much of a chance to get through. If she made it, I'm guessing she might be his introduction.

t.o.boys81
08-05-2006, 06:54 PM
Really good predictions. Wouldn't it be cool if Emmitt brought in Irvin, or vice versa. I know it probobly won't happen, but they were really good friends. I think you're right about those two, though.

TruBlueCowboy
08-05-2006, 06:56 PM
Really good predictions. Wouldn't it be cool if Emmitt brought in Irvin, or vice versa. I know it probobly won't happen, but they were really good friends. I think you're right about those two, though.

You're right, that's one thing I should have mentioned. I think there's a great chance either one will introduce the other. Michael Irvin and Jimmy Johnson were the only ex-Cowboys at Emmitt Smith's roast and I know him and Mike are real close. Emmitt was at Irvin's movie premiere and other events. Even though they all say they're boys with Aikman, you can tell Irvin and Emmitt have a tight bond.

Boyzmamacita
08-05-2006, 07:00 PM
I understand that Emmitt is pretty close to Walter Payton's son. He might get him for his introduction. That would make quite a statement.

Gameover
08-05-2006, 07:12 PM
Michael Irvin - Jimmy Johnson

Larry Allen - Jerry Jones

AbeBeta
08-05-2006, 07:14 PM
Irvin isn't getting in so he won't need to be introduced.

WilmingtonHeel
08-05-2006, 07:14 PM
Irvin - Troy
Emmitt- Michael
LA- Hudson Hauck
Deion- Bobby Bowden

TruBlueCowboy
08-05-2006, 07:18 PM
Irvin isn't getting in so he won't need to be introduced. :shoot2:

RiggoForever
08-05-2006, 07:22 PM
I'm guessing that our own Bill Parcells will introduce Curtis Martin when he's inducted. Those two have some serious man love going on. Martin followed him to the Jets, and then there's that story about the trophy.

Michael Irvin probably owes it to his wife after she's stuck with him through all that. (Yes, cheapshot, I know) It would be cool though to see him pick Jimmy Johnson, the man who brought him through college and the pros.

Emmitt Smith? Emmitt seems like a family guy. I bet pops, his wife, or someone close in the family is going to represent him.

Deion Sanders? Not much of a team guy, can't think of anyone having a big influence on him. Maybe his preacher or whoever turned him to God?

Larry Allen? Really shy and reserved fella. I think Larry is one of the players who might pick Jerry Jones, but I'm sure he'll find an influence from his high school or college days. Probably someone who made him noticeable to the NFL in that little college he played for.

Jerry Jones? There's a small chance he might go to the HOF because of all the changes he has brought. I'm guessing Stephen Jones is the man. Possibly his old lady.

Charles Haley? I know his daughter was really sick and didn't have much of a chance to get through. If she made it, I'm guessing she might be his introduction.

I bet Deion Sanders would have MC Hammer introduce him.

AbeBeta
08-05-2006, 08:00 PM
:shoot2:

is there a smilie for "living in fantasy land?"

I've detailed in previous threads why I didn't think 88 would get to the hall. Most prominently, it is because he has some borderline HoF numbers. If you are borderline, you can't afford to have off the field stuff causing folks to be biased against you.

And don't say

a) "but Art Monk has weak numbers" - the worst WR in the hall doesn't set the standard. Yes, Monk probably shouldn't be there -- since he shouldn't be there voters don't see him as the standard.

b) "but the hall is about on the field performance" -- here, in the real world, some voters are going to, consciously or unconciously, take that stuff into account.

I hope I'm wrong -- I'd love to see Irvin make it -- I'm just not going to be surprised if he doesn't.

DallasEast
08-05-2006, 08:13 PM
is there a smilie for "living in fantasy land?"

I've detailed in previous threads why I didn't think 88 would get to the hall. Most prominently, it is because he has some borderline HoF numbers. If you are borderline, you can't afford to have off the field stuff causing folks to be biased against you.WTH?

G Rec YDS Y/R TD
Lynn Swann 115 336 5462 16.3 51 <--Hall of Famer
Michael Irvin 159 750 11904 15.9 65
Cowboy bias, which Selectors may attempt to justify by using the same argument you're making about Irvin's off the field problems, is the only reason why Irvin wasn't on the stage today sitting behind Aikman and Wright during their induction speeches.

tecolote
08-05-2006, 08:23 PM
I always thought if there was one player that would pick Jerry it would be Irvin (he will make it), he always stood by him trough thick and thin, I also remember he rode with him in the ambulance after the neck injury that ended his career.

I really hope that one of the three (88,22,73) picks Jerry, because you can say what you want about him, but you cannot say he wasn´t loyal to his players (almost to a fault).

EMMITTnROY
08-05-2006, 09:32 PM
i was thinking about this earlier caue I was trying to think of who would introduce Emmitt.. good thread..

by the way, Moose was also at Emmitt's roast.. its true, Mike and Emmitt have always been very very tight, you can tell.. but you can tell that Emmitt is also very very close to Moose.. but the original poster was right about Emmitt being a family guy.. I could see him picking Irvin, Moose, or someone from his family..

it would be cool to see him pick Moose.. have the guy that lead blocked for him for so many years lead the way for him one more time..

Cochese
08-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Whenever Irvin finally gets in, I cant see anyone but Troy introducing him. It will be one the best non game related Cowboys event of all time. I cant wait.

TruBlueCowboy
08-05-2006, 09:41 PM
i was thinking about this earlier caue I was trying to think of who would introduce Emmitt.. good thread..

by the way, Moose was also at Emmitt's roast.. its true, Mike and Emmitt have always been very very tight, you can tell.. but you can tell that Emmitt is also very very close to Moose.. but the original poster was right about Emmitt being a family guy.. I could see him picking Irvin, Moose, or someone from his family..

it would be cool to see him pick Moose.. have the guy that lead blocked for him for so many years lead the way for him one more time..

Still to this day, one of the greatest moments in Cowboys history, watching Emmitt break that record, and then hug Moose and cry on his shoulder for more than a minute while the fans yelled MOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE. Goosebumps I tell ya.

Cochese
08-05-2006, 09:43 PM
Still to this day, one of the greatest moments in Cowboys history, watching Emmitt break that record, and then hug Moose and cry on his shoulder for more than a minute while the fans yelled MOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE. Goosebumps I tell ya.
This is why i insist that JJ needs to build a massive Cowboys Hall Of Fame with the new stadium, where people like Moose can be immortalized for a future generation when es like the Pro Football HOF will never give a damn about the efforts or loyality of Moose.

big dog cowboy
08-05-2006, 09:59 PM
Irvin isn't getting in so he won't need to be introduced.
Are you kidding me? :mad:

Cochese
08-05-2006, 10:03 PM
The only way that Irvin doesnt get in is if the NFL HOF commitee turn into the morality police. #88 is every bit a hall of fame player as #8 and #22.

AbeBeta
08-05-2006, 10:08 PM
WTH?

G Rec YDS Y/R TD
Lynn Swann 115 336 5462 16.3 51 <--Hall of Famer
Michael Irvin 159 750 11904 15.9 65
Cowboy bias, which Selectors may attempt to justify by using the same argument you're making about Irvin's off the field problems, is the only reason why Irvin wasn't on the stage today sitting behind Aikman and Wright during their induction speeches.

did you miss my point about not comparing against the WORST guys in the Hall? That isn't where the bar gets set.

any borderline player who has off-the-field issues is going to get the same treatment -- this is not cowboy bias

AbeBeta
08-05-2006, 10:10 PM
Are you kidding me? :mad:

no. he's a borderline case.

I don't want it to be true but it is.

The30YardSlant
08-05-2006, 10:10 PM
Troy will probably introduce Irvin, and Emmit should be introduced by Mark Stepnoski, Larry Allen, and Erick Williams

The30YardSlant
08-05-2006, 10:11 PM
Just think how many Cowboys will go in in the next few years...

Irvin
Deion
Emmitt
LA
Maybe Darren Woodson

AbeBeta
08-05-2006, 10:13 PM
Just think how many Cowboys will go in in the next few years...

Irvin
Deion
Emmitt
LA
Maybe Darren Woodson

Irvin is debatable.

Woodson is obviously not going to get in.

Emmitt and Deion are 1st ballot.

Larry should be a first ballot but may need to wait a few years to undo the damage he is doing to his legacy by trying to continue to play.

Cochese
08-05-2006, 10:16 PM
Irvin is debatable.

Woodson is obviously not going to get in.

Emmitt and Deion are 1st ballot.

Larry should be a first ballot but may need to wait a few years to undo the damage he is doing to his legacy by trying to continue to play.

If you want to get technical about it, Emmitt did the same thing LA is doing. It doesnt dimish what they did in the prime of their careers.

AbeBeta
08-05-2006, 10:18 PM
If you want to get technical about it, Emmitt did the same thing LA is doing. It doesnt dimish what they did in the prime of their careers.

yeah, but Emmitt has the rushing title behind him - there are no stats for o-linemen -- although I agree that Emmitt should have retired earlier.

TruBlueCowboy
08-05-2006, 10:20 PM
yeah, but Emmitt has the rushing title behind him - there are no stats for o-linemen -- although I agree that Emmitt should have retired earlier.

Give me a break on the "players playing past their prime" argument. If the man still has heart, and someone is still willing to pay him, let it be. One day, you'll get old too.

big dog cowboy
08-05-2006, 10:22 PM
no. he's a borderline case.

I don't want it to be true but it is.
When he suffered his career ending injury he was top 10 all time in receptions and yards and had 3 super bowl rings. Any WR with that track record deserves to be in regardless of which team he plays for. Irvin is a lock to get in within the next couple of years.

Cochese
08-05-2006, 10:24 PM
Give me a break on the "players playing past their prime" argument. If the man still has heart, and someone is still willing to pay him, let it be. One day, you'll get old too.

I agree, and I still think LA has something left to give in the right offense. He might be the strongest lineman of all time, I would say he still has a great year in store.

TruBlueCowboy
08-05-2006, 10:25 PM
When he suffered his career ending injury he was top 10 all time in receptions and yards and had 3 super bowl rings. Any WR with that track record deserves to be in regardless of which team he plays for. Irvin is a lock to get in within the next couple of years.

Fantasy football has ruined our sport. :(

I swear. If Irvin had played just 3 more years, these stat geeks wouldn't be able to keep him out no matter how many criminal charges he faced.

CowboyMike
08-05-2006, 11:00 PM
Michael Irvin - Jimmy Johnson
Emmitt Smith - The Moose
Larry Allen - I'm not sure...
Bill Parcells - Suggestions? If he wins a bowl with the boys.... Dare I say Jerry Jones?
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Drew Bledsoe - Bill Parcells
Roy Williams - Darren Woodson
Jason Witten - Dan Campbell/Bill Parcells
Terrence Newman - Bill Parcells/Roy Williams

Cochese
08-05-2006, 11:04 PM
Parcells is a sure fire HOF'er. I could see his speech being given by one of his 'guys' like maybe Simms, or Richie Anderson, or even the Vinterception.

t.o.boys81
08-05-2006, 11:06 PM
Michael Irvin - Jimmy Johnson
Emmitt Smith - The Moose
Larry Allen - I'm not sure...
Bill Parcells - Suggestions? If he wins a bowl with the boys.... Dare I say Jerry Jones?
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Don't kill me.
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Drew Bledsoe - Bill Parcells
Roy Williams - Darren Woodson
Jason Witten - Dan Campbell/Bill Parcells
Terrence Newman - Bill Parcells/Roy Williams

I really like your assumptions about the current Cowboys, like Roy, Witten, and T-New. That's real interesting. And by the way, Irvin is getting into the Hall. There's no debate there.

t.o.boys81
08-05-2006, 11:07 PM
Parcells is a sure fire HOF'er. I could see his speech being given by one of his 'guys' like maybe Simms, or Richie Anderson, or even the Vinterception.

I really like your idea of a Cowboy Hall of Fame in their new stadium. That would be great immortalizing the greatest Cowboys of all time. Especially those that have been screwed by the biased voting commitee.

Cochese
08-05-2006, 11:10 PM
I really like your idea of a Cowboy Hall of Fame in their new stadium. That would be great immortalizing the greatest Cowboys of all time. Especially those that have been screwed by the biased voting commitee.

Thats what I am saying. We have so many players that have done so much for this team that wont ever be recognized by anyone other than Cowboy fans. People like Moose and Bill Bates thats why I think JJ should build some huge facilty that rivals the NFL Hall of Fame for people that have put outstanding service into our organization. Fans would pay to see it, people would love to see it.

t.o.boys81
08-05-2006, 11:12 PM
Thats what I am saying. We have so many players that have done so much for this team that wont ever be recognized by anyone other than Cowboy fans. People like Moose and Bill Bates thats why I think JJ should build some huge facilty that rivals the NFL Hall of Fame for people that have put outstanding service into our organization. Fans would pay to see it, people would love to see it.

Players like Harvey Martin, Cliff Harris, Drew Pearson, Bob Hayes, Bill Bates, ect. All those player who have been screwed by the HoF committee.

Cochese
08-05-2006, 11:14 PM
Players like Harvey Martin, Cliff Harris, Drew Pearson, Bob Hayes, Bill Bates, ect. All those player who have been screwed by the HoF committee.

I completely agree, a Cowboy HOF would go over like gangbusters and give players that were loyal to us their proper immortilizations.

Crown Royal
08-06-2006, 12:45 AM
Players like Harvey Martin, Cliff Harris, Drew Pearson, Bob Hayes, Bill Bates, ect. All those player who have been screwed by the HoF committee.

Bill Bates never will, nor should he ever, sniff the HoF.

felix360
08-06-2006, 01:25 AM
im thinking the MOOSE will into Emmit, he was his lead blocker all those years

AbeBeta
08-06-2006, 11:50 AM
Give me a break on the "players playing past their prime" argument. If the man still has heart, and someone is still willing to pay him, let it be. One day, you'll get old too.

God forbid someone gives an honest evaluation of how voters might react.

jazzcat22
08-06-2006, 12:09 PM
Players usually have apast coach, or someone that influenced their lives in some way. I really doubt if any one has their wife introduce them. Yes, maybe a child as in case of Haley. Yes, Emmitt may pick Walter's son. We know he won't use Steve Spurrier :laugh2:


Deion Sanders? Not much of a team guy, can't think of anyone having a big influence on him. Maybe his preacher or whoever turned him to God?



Maybe Deion will just use GOD himself. :lmao2:

ZeroClub
08-06-2006, 12:27 PM
Jimmy Johnson has got to be in the running to introduce M. Irvin. He coached Irvin at U Miami and in Dallas.

Thinking about how Al Davis has introduced so many Hall of Famers - I wonder which Cowboy might be the most likely to ask Jerry for an introduction?

Deion, maybe?