OAK vs. PHI (HoF) Game Thread.

[StevenOtero]

http://www.profootballhof.com/assets/default/2006_Game_Page_Oak_Phil.jpg

You know the drill.

Mods can you lock this thread until game time?

[Tio]

when is it starting?

[CactusCowboy]

Who cares?????

[cowboysfan31]

Game starts at 7pm CT on NBC I do believe.

[superpunk]

I'm looking forward to watching Mr Mediocrity attempt to exist without a #1 receiver in a tough NFC. tonight, is that first step.

Go Raidasssssssssss!

[lane]

mcnabb back to pass ............it hits the ground 3 yards in front of the receiver..

mcnabb back to pass..............it's 5 yards over what's his names head out of bounds.

mcnabb back to pass ...............takes off running ..

[superpunk]

mcnabb back to pass ............it hits the ground 3 yards in front of the receiver..

mcnabb back to pass..............it's 5 yards over what's his names head out of bounds.

mcnabb back to pass ...............takes off running ..

Damn#!@#!

The game started!

[AtlCB]

mcnabb back to pass ............it hits the ground 3 yards in front of the receiver..

mcnabb back to pass..............it's 5 yards over what's his names head out of bounds.

mcnabb back to pass ...............takes off running ..

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Anybody remember the Bang Cartoon McNabb Simulator?

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

:iggles: :iggles: :iggles:

[Duane]

mcnabb back to pass ............it hits the ground 3 yards in front of the receiver..

mcnabb back to pass..............it's 5 yards over what's his names head out of bounds.

mcnabb back to pass ...............takes off running ..
:lmao:

[cowboyeric8]

I'll watch just to see if they interview Troy on the sidelines. But other than that, I could care less.

[5Stars]

What the over/under that McChoke pucks his guts out in this game? :eek:

:star:

[Juke99]

What the over/under that McChoke pucks his guts out in this game? :eek:

:star:


Well, if he pucks maybe the Flyers should sign him. :D

[5Stars]

Well, if he pucks maybe the Flyers should sign him. :D

:laugh2: Can he skate? He did in the SuperBowl...!

:star:

[StevenOtero]

Who cares?????

We have put up game threads for less.

[5Stars]

We have put up game threads for less.


True...but the Eagles are worse then less! :)

:star:

[Cowboys&Caps]

first action of the year and randy moss is on my fantasy team i guess i'll watch the first qtr or so

[Crown Royal]

I like how everyone has magically forgotten how formidable the Eagles were before TO. And that was against teams other than the pathetic east, too.:rolleyes:

[TheSkaven]

I'll watch just to see if they interview Troy on the sidelines. But other than that, I could care less.To each his own. Football is football, and this is the first pre-season game of the year. I will at least watch the first quarter.

[5Stars]

To each his own. Football is football, and this is the first pre-season game of the year. I will at least watch the first quarter.

I will too...I mean, all REAL football fans will at least watch the first qtr!

I'm curious...to see football...it's the Hall of Fame game...

:star:

[BlueStar22]

i'm sure Terrell is sitting somewhere with him Donovan McNabb voodoo doll right about now.

[Da Hammer]

what a surprise a flag against Oakland, some things never change

[Hostile]

Hmm. I thought Darren Howard was washed up. Go figure.

[dargonking999]

wow, the raiders still suck

[Cbz40]

Glory beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......finally some football to watch. :D

[Da Hammer]

while i dont root for injuries, i hope McFlabb comes out of this game banged up

[Letemburn]

Hank Baskett, i liked the guy in college, always thought he had a good shot in the pros. Now i hope he doesnt turn out to be anything special lol. Didnt know he was on the Eagles.

[dargonking999]

does mcnabb look like he sick?

[sacase]

Eagles look pretty good so far.

[kilz]

Philly's O-Line looks sick.

[dargonking999]

my god, the raiders just absoulty suck, they cant stop a dang thing

[Hostile]

The Eagles look back to me so far. Great blocking up front. I tell you this team isn't dead yet. They could surprise a lot of people.

[Crown Royal]

Hmm. I thought Darren Howard was washed up. Go figure.

HAHAHA - I came into this thread to make that same point.


Also - I really, really hope that the Raider's defense just sucks. I'll say it a million times more after this - the memory seems to have faded from some people - McNabb was a good QB pre-Owens.

[Crown Royal]

The Eagles look back to me so far. Great blocking up front. I tell you this team isn't dead yet. They could surprise a lot of people.

I think the Eagles are still better than the Giants.

[Bungarian]

They better have Troy in the booth.

[BlueStar22]

Philly looks good. Their offensive line is performing well. That or the Raiduhhhhhs just suck.

[dargonking999]

im in firm belif that the raiders just really suck, Eagles arent that good

[Hostile]

Philly looks good. Their offensive line is performing well. That or the Raiduhhhhhs just suck.I think their OL looked damned good that series. They had 2 yards pushes every snap.

[dargonking999]

They better have Troy in the booth.

why???

[Roughneck]

Philly looks good. Their offensive line is performing well. That or the Raiduhhhhhs just suck.Offensive line doesn't explain Westbrook breaking tackles on every running play. Oakland's Run Defense suuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

[Cbz40]

I was impressed......:eek: :D

[dargonking999]

Offensive line doesn't explain Westbrook breaking tackles on every running play. Oakland's Run Defense suuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

or explans him fallng down and getting up and stumbing another 10 yards,

[Crown Royal]

There is little doubt that the Raiders suck.

But there is also no good reason that the Eagles won't be at least as good as they were in 2003. Their line is probably better, they are back to being a completely high character team (no more TO or Corey Simon).

Their trenches are stacked.

And McNabb is healthy.

How this team gets written off just because all the rest of us are better is beyond me.

[Crown Royal]

Oh yeah - Reid collects lineman like Tuna collects TEs.

I kinda wish we would do that. Maybe we will now, since our skill positions are OK.

[maloy]

The Eagles look back to me so far. Great blocking up front. I tell you this team isn't dead yet. They could surprise a lot of people.

How can a team look "back" after one series of a preseason game?
Well we know who will overreact one way or another after the cowboys first series.

[Hostile]

Raiders 13-35 since losing the Super Bowl to Tampa, tied with the 49ers for worst record in the NFL in that time span.

Sucks to live in the Bay area huh?

[Crown Royal]

How can a team look "back" after one series of a preseason game?
Well we know who will overreact one way or another after the cowboys first series.

The Cowboys OLine can't look that crisp for one day in TC. If they can do the first series in preseason that way, I'm buying tickets to the SuperBowl in August.

[BlueStar22]

To think Robert Gallery was the first pick overall.

[dargonking999]

nah, it doesnt kind of suck, its absolutley horrid

[Hostile]

How can a team look "back" after one series of a preseason game?
Well we know who will overreact one way or another after the cowboys first series.LOL

I just got accused of over reacting.

That's a first.

[Cochese]

Robert Gallery with a textbook lookout block.

Please calm down folks and repeat after me...

"The Eagles Still Suck."

[Crown Royal]

A big LOL to whoever the Raider's RT is.

There is no shame in Kearse beating you with his speed or moves.

But when he just flat bull rushes you, lift some weights son!:lmao2::lmao:

[Hostile]

To think Robert Gallery was the first pick overall.No he wasn't. 2nd overall behind Eli Manning in 2004.

[BlueStar22]

Retire Warren Sapp.

[Roughneck]

......and Donnie is alread out.

[Crown Royal]

On a side note (and Maddens just took the words out of my mouth) - great pickup by Philly on Garcia. Great match. Very good insurance in case McNabb gets injured again.

[BlueStar22]

No he wasn't. 2nd overall behind Eli Manning in 2004.
It's still bad.

[sacase]

Ok what's the point in celebrating when they got an 11 yard gain.

[Hostile]

That pass was ugly.

[sacase]

Lord Garcia sucked on that pass, threw it in teh dirt like 15 yards in front of the receiver.

[Crown Royal]

It's still bad.

The offensive line takes longer to develop than any position in football - including QB.

[Hostile]

Ok what's the point in celebrating when they got an 11 yard gain.Exactly. Brayden (sp?) did his job not something spectacular.

[BlueStar22]

Ok what's the point in celebrating when they got an 11 yard gain.
same as my favorite player on our own team, Roy Williams, when he celebrates after punishing a receiver even though they make the catch for the first down.:laugh2:

[dargonking999]

is this like the most stupid commericial ever?(the one with Peyton aagainst the TItians for direct TV)

[Crown Royal]

:laugh1::laugh1::laugh2::laugh2::bow::bow:

I love DirectTV's commercials for their Sunday Ticket or ppv.

[Crown Royal]

Exactly. Brayden (sp?) did his job not something spectacular.

I had flashbacks of 'What do voluntary mean.'

[BlueStar22]

The offensive line takes longer to develop than any position in football - including QB.
Then I guess we're in major trouble.

[sacase]

same as my favorite player on our own team, Roy Williams, when he celebrates after punishing a receiver even though they make the catch for the first down.:laugh2:

Yeah...but....but...but that's different....he blew somebody up......:laugh2:

[Crown Royal]

Nice blocking Raider OL

[dargonking999]

same as my favorite player on our own team, Roy Williams, when he celebrates after punishing a receiver even though they make the catch for the first down.:laugh2:

there's a differnce when you make a big punishing hit on defense and celebrate, then a little 11 yard gain on offense. Usually big hits on D help engerzie the D. and 11 yard gain really dosent do much unless it was spectacular

[BlueStar22]

LaMont Jordan must not have had many carries so far in camp.

[Crown Royal]

Then I guess we're in major trouble.

LOL - where have you been?:D

[BlueStar22]

:laugh2: Yeah...but....but...but that's different....he blew somebody up......:laugh2:

[Roughneck]

Aaron Brooks being Aaron Brooks.

:laugh2:

[Hostile]

Will they review that INT?

[sacase]

Ok I don't think the Eagles are good, I think the Raiders just plain suck.

[BlueStar22]

Reggie's wife is so pretty.

[dargonking999]

no lol

[Crown Royal]

Winston Justice looks raw.

But I am reminded why I wanted him. Blasted Eagles.:bang2::banghead:

[BlueStar22]

Ok I don't think the Eagles are good, I think the Raiders just plain suck.
I tend to agree.

[dargonking999]

Reggie's wife is so pretty.

and Reggie Frowns at you from a far

[Hostile]

Jeff Garthia, being Jeff Garthia.

[dargonking999]

well, Jeff is back to just what he was at detriot

[Da Hammer]

while the Eagles will be much improved this coming season, they are facing the Raiders and they really really suck.

[bbgun]

Philly has a real OL.

[Crown Royal]

What a poor pass on good coverage. It came a second too late. Plus, his WR fell.

[dargonking999]

reallly really suck

:D:D:D

[Hostile]

Reggie's wife is so pretty.She seems even prettier on the inside than the outside. Very rare. He was a blessed man.

[Crown Royal]

Philly has a real OL.

True story. They have some amazing footwork.:o:

[dargonking999]

Philly has a real OL.

nah i think the Raiders have a failed DL, there all overrated (yes Sapp to)

[da_boyz_mk]

Winston Justice looks raw.

But I am reminded why I wanted him. Blasted Eagles.:bang2::banghead:

hey crown.... i know what you meant but i think i would have put in a different way:laugh2:

[Hostile]

Philly has a real OL.Careful, we're over reacting.

:grin:

[Crown Royal]

hey crown.... i know what you meant but i think i would have put in a different way:laugh2:

No no - I meant it that way. There was this one night where I met him in a night club....and then the Eagles called him back to practice.












...










(NOT true story).:eek:

[Crown Royal]

I know it's the eagles....but I like the look of that movie. It's a good story. I wasn't around then, but I have a lot of respect for that team and for Dick Vermeil in general.

[dargonking999]

yea ok CR, whatever you wanna tell us

Cause i remember seeing you two walk out of that club,.....but hey, i wont say where you went :D:D:D

[Crown Royal]

yea ok CR, whatever you wanna tell us

Cause i remember seeing you two walk out of that club,.....but hey, i wont say where you went :D:D:D

...


What happens in South Dallas stays in South Dallas.:o:

[dargonking999]

of course, :D

[Crown Royal]

I get the feeling that Art Shell is going to be relying heavily on LaMont Jordan this year.

[dargonking999]

wow nice catch

[Crown Royal]

AMAZING catch on POOR PASS BLOCKING.

Brooks is going to feel right at home in Oakland. The Saints wouldn't block for him.

Now the Raiders feel like following suit. Good lord.

[BlueStar22]

She seems even prettier on the inside than the outside. Very rare. He was a blessed man.
I agree. He was truly blessed and so was/is she.

[dargonking999]

Actaully the Saints at least gave him a chance, The raiders are beyong putrid. This is why i have hope for the Cowboys. We cant be worse the raiders

[BlueStar22]

wow nice catch
yeah, it was Wittenesque.:laugh2:

[dargonking999]

yeah, it was Wittenesque.:laugh2:

nah it was more of umm somebody lower the witten :D :D:D, Witten is like 3 levels over anyone else

[Crown Royal]

Actaully the Saints at least gave him a chance, The raiders are beyong putrid. This is why i have hope for the Cowboys. We cant be worse the raiders

I think Gallery will be OK...but their interior is abysmal.

Don't get me wrong - Johnson is a genius at attacking you in the 0-4 gaps, but they are just plain getting pushed backward.

[dargonking999]

there getting beat really badly, thats all i have to say lol

[Crown Royal]

Has Hank Fraley gained weight?!?! Good lord, he looks like the Stay-Puffed Marshmallow man.

[dargonking999]

My god, this guys remind me of the cheifs last year

[Crown Royal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The young Ryan looks like a gay redneck version of his dad!

[sacase]

That was a BS call.

[Crown Royal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The young Ryan looks like a gay redneck version of his dad!

Not that there's anything wrong with that.:cool:

[dargonking999]

god, i still hate Hollywood for the WTC movie

Courge of Consipiracy, jeez, what a girly movie.

[dargonking999]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.:cool:


not only did this guy not just edit his post, but he actaully quote himself. Someone ban him.:laugh2: :D

[StevenOtero]

Way too soon for a WTC movie. Especially when you try to gloryize it.

[StevenOtero]

Good ol' Raider arm tackling.

[cowboysfan31]

Looks like they've moved Darnell Bing to an OLB now.

[Crown Royal]

not only did this guy not just edit his post, but he actaully quote himself. Someone ban him.:laugh2: :D

I have long maintained that some day I will be banned...but when I do, it will be for actions so unspeakable that I will top the annals of noteable CZ.com banned members.

I will forever be remembered.

[dargonking999]

hey otero have you learned, the Raiders are in firm belfi thats the best way to takle

[StevenOtero]

Looks like they've moved Darnell Bing to an OLB now.

Sure did.

[dargonking999]

I have long maintained that some day I will be banned...but when I do, it will be for actions so unspeakable that I will top the annals of noteable CZ.com banned members.

I will forever be remembered.

nah you'll be forgotten about two days later, i'll out do you :D

[sacase]

good kick.

[Crown Royal]

Holy Healthy Akers Batman.

[StevenOtero]

hey otero have you learned, the Raiders are in firm belfi thats the best way to takle

:lmao:

Yay Troy in tha booth. Maybe he'll have neg. comments for JJ or bledsoe. lol

I love him as a Dallas Cowboy, but when he is on Fox commentating. I'd rather hear their B team.

[TheSport78]

too bad akers couldn't do that last year...week 10 in particular

[da_boyz_mk]

too bad akers couldn't do that last year...week 10 in particular

i feel your pain too

[Crown Royal]

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::l augh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::bow::bow::bow:

Cell phone crime deterrent!!!

[da_boyz_mk]

man what i wouldn't give to see troy throw an out route to irvin just one more time

[Crown Royal]

I get goosebumps from the Troy stuff. I still get teary on the rare occasions his retirement speach is replayed.

Is it true that he considered a comeback when Parcells returned to the team?

[Crown Royal]

Huggy Bear Spawn!

[Da Hammer]

Way too soon for a WTC movie. Especially when you try to gloryize it.
i agree that its too soon for a WTC movie. and i certainly wont pay to see the movie. its just wrong that they are gonna make $$$ out of a tragic event that affected a lot of peoples lifes forever. sure they'll probably donate part of the money to charity or something but the actors and the people making the movie will still get their cut of the dough. plus why do we need a movie, we all saw what happened to the trade centers and we saw how it destroyed peoples families and changed the mentality that we are completely safe here in the U.S. its unnecessary

[dargonking999]

I get goosebumps from the Troy stuff. I still get teary on the rare occasions his retirement speach is replayed.

Is it true that he considered a comeback when Parcells returned to the team?

Wish he would have. I was once a Qc Fan, but Aikman would have been a heaven send for that team. and We might have scored a TD in that playoff game

[Crown Royal]

Where is Marques Tuiasosopo? Is he off the Raiders?

[da_boyz_mk]

i agree that its too soon for a WTC movie. and i certainly wont pay to see the movie. its just wrong that they are gonna make $$$ out of a tragic event that affected a lot of peoples lifes forever. sure they'll probably donate part of the money to charity or something but the actors and the people making the movie will still get their cut of the dough. plus why do we need a movie, we all saw what happened to the trade centers and we saw how it destroyed peoples families and changed the mentality that we are completely safe here in the U.S. its unnecessary

very well said..i agree completely

[dargonking999]

i agree that its too soon for a WTC movie. and i certainly wont pay to see the movie. its just wrong that they are gonna make $$$ out of a tragic event that affected a lot of peoples lifes forever. sure they'll probably donate part of the money to charity or something but the actors and the people making the movie will still get their cut of the dough. plus why do we need a movie, we all saw what happened to the trade centers and we saw how it destroyed peoples families and changed the mentality that we are completely safe here in the U.S. its unnecessary

not to mention put the most stupidest and pointless war since we jumped headfirst into the vietnam war. Makes me wonder if we will ever learn to keep to our dang selves

[Crown Royal]

not to mention put the most stupidest and pointless war since we jumped headfirst into the vietnam war. Makes me wonder if we will ever learn to keep to our dang selves
thepoliticalzone.com

(Also - there is something ironic about that statement, and then saying 'the most stupidest') :-D

[Da Hammer]

not to mention put the most stupidest and pointless war since we jumped headfirst into the vietnam war. Makes me wonder if we will ever learn to keep to our dang selves
yea i agree with that

[dargonking999]

thepoliticalzone.com

(Also - there is something ironic about that statement, and then saying 'the most stupidest') :-D

i know i just had to get that out

(consider it being a bottle of anger that gets opened everytime i think about that man and his freaking war on terriosm, that still hasnt ended 5 years later(

[dargonking999]

Terrel Owens Survial Society.

Those two QB's need to get on already and stop talking to the reporters, they already have a room together

[Da Hammer]

yea lets get back to football, i just wanted to get off my chest what i thought about them making a WTC movie

[da_boyz_mk]

i can't believe i'm actually watching a football game..off-season is just too friggin long

[Kchunda]

They mentioned the XFL! I totally forgot about that awful awful thing. . .

[da_boyz_mk]

have they interviewed rayfield wright yet?

[Hostile]

Nice play by the kdis.

[Crown Royal]

I'm kind of impressed by this here Andrew Walter. Who is he and where did he come from? His vision is good for a young guy.

[Hostile]

have they interviewed rayfield wright yet?No, not yet.

[Hostile]

I'm kind of impressed by this here Andrew Walter. Who is he and where did he come from? His vision is good for a young guy.Raiders 3rd round pick out of ASU in 2005.

[Crown Royal]

Raiders 3rd round pick out of ASU in 2005.

Is that the guy who had the shoulder injury, but was red hot the season before? If so, I think that might turn out to be a nice pick for them.

[ChldsPlay]

we all saw what happened to the trade centers and we saw how it destroyed peoples families and changed the mentality that we are completely safe here in the U.S. its unnecessary


I think it's long overdue. If it's done right, it's a good thing. A lot of people seem to have forgotten all that stuff you mentioned before. Way too many.

[Crown Royal]

That was a bad sack for him. Being 6'6" and however stout you are, you need to be strong anout to not allow a swipe to bring you down.

[Hostile]

I've enjoyed Madden and Michaels tonight. Even Madden's rambles have been enjoyable. Either I really missed football or I'm mellowing.

[Crown Royal]

I've enjoyed Madden and Michaels tonight. Even Madden's rambles have been enjoyable. Either I really missed football or I'm mellowing.

They are OK. I think we'll miss them when we have to suffer through Theeeeeesman and Co on Monday Nights.

I am queasy. The magic that you old timers have had since the Cosell years has been tainted.:(

[Crown Royal]

Chris Collinsworth, though I hate to agree with him, is right. The Eagles will be hungry to prove their reign isn't yet over. They are going to be ice cold.

Note - just because I think the Eagles are still going to be good, I don't want that to come off as saying I don't think we, or the other Beast teams, can compete. I'm just saying they aren't going to lose every Beast game again this year.

[Crown Royal]

Does John Madden color his eyebrows? No way does that occur naturally.

[Hostile]

They are OK. I think we'll miss them when we have to suffer through Theeeeeesman and Co on Monday Nights.

I am queasy. The magic that you old timers have had since the Cosell years has been tainted.:(The best part about tonight is that Bob Costas is back in the NFL. I consider him one of the very best ever.

[ghst187]

i agree that its too soon for a WTC movie. and i certainly wont pay to see the movie. its just wrong that they are gonna make $$$ out of a tragic event that affected a lot of peoples lifes forever. sure they'll probably donate part of the money to charity or something but the actors and the people making the movie will still get their cut of the dough. plus why do we need a movie, we all saw what happened to the trade centers and we saw how it destroyed peoples families and changed the mentality that we are completely safe here in the U.S. its unnecessary

:hammer:
although I don't think its necessarily "too soon" I just think that it should never be made. Isn't it nicholas cage? gross, he's horrible anyway.
Its almost as if people try to glamourize the fact that we got blown up.
I hope the movie flops horribly and loses millions. I won't see it. I don't get the feeling that most people care to see it either. Hasn't America lived it ever since? Do we need to watch it in a theater too?

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that Hollywood ran out of good ideas about a decade ago. I can't believe they are remaking movies that were remade not that long ago....Superman, Spiderman, Batman...
get some fresh ideas guys. The worst part is that the remakes usually aren't as good as the original anyway. Makes it almost blasphemous. New Star Wars were flat out embarrassing and a horrible insult to the originals.

So we were talking about the Eagles and Raidaahs. So how's Philly's tecmo bowl offense looking? Play 1: screen pass to Westbrook Play 2: Short middle pass to LJ Smith Play 3: Mcnubb acts like he can't find anyone downfield and tucks the ball and runs Play 4: Mcnubb throws the ball either in the dirt or out of bounds (or to Roy Williams)
Extra play: Screen pass to Westbrook to the other side

[Crown Royal]

The best part about tonight is that Bob Costas is back in the NFL. I consider him one of the very best ever.

I remember really enjoying NBC football before Fox sort of took over for them as the elite.

I still like Fox the best, especially the Troy/Horn duo, but this lineup for NBC looks like it'll work out well.


(cept collinsworth)

[lane]

Chris Collinsworth, though I hate to agree with him, is right. The Eagles will be hungry to prove their reign isn't yet over. They are going to be ice cold.

Note - just because I think the Eagles are still going to be good, I don't want that to come off as saying I don't think we, or the other Beast teams, can compete. I'm just saying they aren't going to lose every Beast game again this year.

you sound like an eagles fan.

[Kchunda]

When Collinsworth was doing Fox not that long ago, I didn't really mind him. What was the general problem most people had with him?

P.S. I will hit the mute button every time Joey Thessman opens his mouth.

[Crown Royal]

you sound like an eagles fan.

I'm just honest.;)

[Crown Royal]

When Collinsworth was doing Fox not that long ago, I didn't really mind him. What was the general problem most people had with him?

P.S. I will hit the mute button every time Joey Thessman opens his mouth.

I just think he is so cynical. Honestly, he's a lot like a message board type guy - his only contributions in the booth is to try to get in one liners and make a joke about a specific play. His commentary just never seemed too insightful to me.

I guess he didn't annoy me so much as he just seemed to take up airspace.

[lane]

I'm just honest.;)

exactly..........a honest eagles fan.

[Crown Royal]

exactly..........a honest eagles fan.

Why do I sound like an Eagles fan? Because I don't think they're going to roll over and go back to the dregs of the division, where they resided pre-Reid/McNabb?

Don't get me wrong - I hope they do. But one season of losing their reign doesn't mean they are going to give up and rebuild. This team still has talent, coaching and management in their favor.

[sacase]

LOL everyone got hurt

[Hostile]

Nice hit!!!

I love this stuff. Hope they are okay.

[Crown Royal]

Nice hit!!!

I love this stuff. Hope they are okay.

Man I can't believe we've gone 6 months without that.

[lane]

Why do I sound like an Eagles fan? Because I don't think they're going to roll over and go back to the dregs of the division, where they resided pre-Reid/McNabb?

Don't get me wrong - I hope they do. But one season of losing their reign doesn't mean they are going to give up and rebuild. This team still has talent, coaching and management in their favor.

the eagles have as much chance of going to the playoffs as i do of winning the lottery ........

eleventy billion to one.

[Kchunda]

I just think he is so cynical. Honestly, he's a lot like a message board type guy - his only contributions in the booth is to try to get in one liners and make a joke about a specific play. His commentary just never seemed too insightful to me.

I guess he didn't annoy me so much as he just seemed to take up airspace.

Ah. . . the memories are rushing back

(whoa that hit was tough! All 3 guys got a little more than they probably should have in the 1st preseason game)

. . . I remember him making fun of Campo's Cowboys almost non-stop. Hurt to hear it at the time, especially after an afternoon of beer and losing against wonderful teams like Detroit.

Will have to pay attention to see if he still is in possession of that ability to needle me.

[Hostile]

Man I can't believe we've gone 6 months without that.Celibacy sucks.

[Crown Royal]

the eagles have as much chance of going to the playoffs as i do of winning the lottery ........

eleventy billion to one.

As far as I am concerned, the NFC East is wide open. Each team will be able to compete with each other. I think each team, at this point, has a one in four chance of going.

[lane]

As far as I am concerned, the NFC East is wide open. Each team will be able to compete with each other. I think each team, at this point, has a one in four chance of going.

the giants will be a threat.

[lane]

injuries are the key to any team being successful.........

if they have talent.

[Kchunda]

WOW what a crappy throw by TuTu

[StevenOtero]

lol tutu.

[StevenOtero]

Oh great throw by Chang. :lmao:

[The30YardSlant]

Celibacy sucks.

Amen... :(

[Cowboy Junkie]

Amen... :(


Who got hurt for Philly ...i left the room for a few mins

[Hostile]

Who got hurt for Philly ...i left the room for a few minsBruce Perry. It didn't look horrible, but I'm glad they're taking precautions. Hope he's all right.

[Cowboy Junkie]

Bruce Perry. It didn't look horrible, but I'm glad they're taking precautions. Hope he's all right.

Thanx , Hos

[txlonghorn14]

both oakland and philly looked boring and terrible at the same time tonight. i know its only pre-season, but i could only bring myself to watch the first half of the game. i hate both these teams, i had a hard time following.....

[Phoenix-Talon]

I like how everyone has magically forgotten how formidable the Eagles were before TO. And that was against teams other than the pathetic east, too.:rolleyes:

That's an interesting observation CR. Also know that no amount of bad-mouthing on any MB, or on any franchise, can take away from a team's talents. The Eagles will be contenders in 2006 ...

[Phoenix-Talon]

both oakland and philly looked boring and terrible at the same time tonight. i know its only pre-season, but i could only bring myself to watch the first half of the game. i hate both these teams, i had a hard time following.....

Interesting observations tx...especially since this was the first opportunity to watch a game since February. Ok, let's say that 3-quaters of the game was boring. Did you miss the 1st quarter when the Raiders 1st team went up against th Eagles 1st team?

[dmq]

Interesting observations tx...especially since this was the first opportunity to watch a game since February. Ok, let's say that 3-quaters of the game was boring. Did you miss the 1st quarter when the Raiders 1st team went up against th Eagles 1st team?

Honestly,
Nothing the Eagles did tonight scared me. It was a series of short outs and runs followed by a heap load of missed tackles and slow to react defense. Honestly, I give props to the Eagles for making a bad team look bad. However, I think I remember (maybe it was the first preseason game) of the TO era and I believed the Eagles went to TO on a crossing route deep. I can't remember the exact play but I thought to myself, "Oh my God, I think we are in trouble!". I never got that feeling at all last night. I got the feeling that if Newman was guarding Brown, it would have been broken up. Or we would have gotten pressure on Mcnabb. The Raiders look to be a team in the basement. I wouldn't read too much into this.

[RW Hitman]

McNabb and co. done after one series?
Who wants to bet that is all for public relations and has everything to do with TO in some way.
I mean come on... now they can say "See we are awesome without TO."

:laugh1:

[Phoenix-Talon]

I wouldn't read too much into this.

Not a very fair accessment dmq. Why? Because you're not giving any credit to the Raiders, and you're saying that a team that has a decent QB in Aaron Brooks, ...with a wide receiver the likes of Randy Moss and Jerry Porter, ...and a running back Like Lamont Jordan is basement contender.

Secondly your assessment is based on a biased perception of an Eagles 1st Team that played "less" than one-quarter!

Come on dmq ...how about hatIng realistically!

[Doomsday101]

Last night may have been just a pre-season game but anyone writing Philly off I think is making a mistake. I expect this to be a 4 team race

[Secondary2None3141]

Not a very fair accessment dmq. Why? Because you're not giving any credit to the Raiders, and you're saying that a team that has a decent QB in Aaron Brooks, ...with a wide receiver the likes of Randy Moss and Jerry Porter, ...and a running back Like Lamont Jordan is basement contender.

Secondly your assessment is based on a biased perception of an Eagles 1st Team that played "less" than one-quarter!

Come on dmq ...how about hatIng realistically!

Aaron Brooks quarterbacked a basement team last year, and Lamont Jordon, Randy Moss, and Joey Porter also played on a basement team last year.

So it seems calling the Raiders a basement team is a pretty fair assessment.

[Phoenix-Talon]

Last night may have been just a pre-season game but anyone writing Philly off I think is making a mistake. I expect this to be a 4 team race

That's music coming from you Dd101. I appreciate the gesture. We're not trying to say we back (yet) ...but we just want to regain the respect to be considered NFC-East contenders.

I think they will compete at NFC-East level standards this year.

[Doomsday101]

That's music coming from you Dd101. I appreciate the gesture. We're not trying to say we back (yet) ...but we just want to regain the respect to be considered NFC-East contenders.

I think they will compete at NFC-East level standards this year.

I can't stand the eagles my least favorite team in the NFL but I also realize this team has some talented players and coaches and was winning even before TO set foot in Philly. To think they will just roll over and die is not reality. I think they are a team that feels they have a lot to prove and I expect to see them fighting tooth and nail for the NFC East.

[Phoenix-Talon]

Aaron Brooks quarterbacked a basement team last year, and Lamont Jordon, Randy Moss, and Joey Porter also played on a basement team last year.

So it seems calling the Raiders a basement team is a pretty fair assessment.

Slow down, aren't you putting the cart before the horse? This is only a preseason game and you're calling the Raiders a basement team without giving them an opportunity of proving that they are an improved team.

That game could very well have been called the rookie bowl under other circumstances. Don't let your hatred for the Eagles block the certainty that yesterday's game is no where near representative of the Eagles worth nor the Raiders.

Neither the Philadelphia Eagles nor the Dallas Cowboys have the privilege of playing the Oakland Raiders in the Regular season anyway!

Before I finish this post, I'd like to draw your attention toward the 1st team defensive squad ...Howard showed his versatility on the opening drive. From the defensive tackle spot in the nickel formation, Howard got great push on the line and tackled Oakland running back LaMont Jordan in the backfield for a one-yard loss. On the Raiders' second drive, it was Howard from the tackle spot again and defensive end Jevon Kearse from the edge who helped setup a third-down sack for defensive end Trent Cole.


"It's all about push," said Cole. "If you get the push, then someone's going to be there. Last year, I had to play the whole game. This year (with Howard), I can come in 100, no 110 percent off the edge. It's just speed, all out speed and technique."
The Eagles have shown they have the tools to play physical, downhill defense. The pieces are in place to attack and force miscues to allow one of the deepest secondaries in the league to prey. It may have been only a few plays, but it sets the tone. And to think, this is without first-round draft pick defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley in the lineup ...

[txlonghorn14]

lets face it, the hall of fame game is never that exciting. especially with the completely washed up raiders and the eagles who won't really amount to much of anything anytime soon.

[Phoenix-Talon]

lets face it, the hall of fame game is never that exciting. especially with the completely washed up raiders and the eagles who won't really amount to much of anything anytime soon.

We'll see how your team does against Seattle this Saturday.:D

[dargonking999]

We'll see how your team does against Seattle this Saturday.:D

probably no worse than it doesn every year under parcells in the firs pre-season game

a losing cause with little to no points.

[Phoenix-Talon]

Aaron Brooks quarterbacked a basement team last year, and Lamont Jordon, Randy Moss, and Joey Porter also played on a basement team last year.

So it seems calling the Raiders a basement team is a pretty fair assessment.

No disrespect, but people who live in glass houses ...

Listen, basement teams of yesterday make Superbowl Champs tomorrow! Let me break this down for you nice and easy for our two fandoms ...

That said ...

Cowboys: 9-7 (one team away from the basement in 2005; why?).

Here's your preseason ...with the opponent team's record in 2005 highlighted...

New Orleans (3-13) basement Team in 2005

San Francisco (4-12) basement team in 2005

Minnesota (9-6) respectable standing in 2005

Eagles: 6-10 (basement team in 2005; no excuses)

Here's our preseason ...with the opponent team's record in 2005 highlighted...

Oakland (4-12) basement team in 2005

Cleveland (6-10) basement team in 2005

Ravens (6-10) basement team in 2005

Pittsburgh (11-5) Superbowl Champs in 2005!

New York Jets (4-12) basement team in 2005

NOTE: The Cowboys play only 3 preseason games versus the Eagles 5 games. two-thirds of your preseason games are with "basement" teams versus our playing the Superbowl champs.

The Cowboys play this Saturday (win or lose, Bill Parcells gets to look at some rookies, and make some decisions about the roster). While a win is nice, it won't come at the expense of not taking a look across his team to weed-out players who aren't "the real deal." Keep this in your back pocket ...Bill Parcells does not want to take any unnecessary chances and get any 1st team player injured during any preseason game.

It's No big deal if you lose to all 3 teams you play ...this is the fact finding part of the season ...in other words, it's Bill's time!

So get rid of the basement drama, and Hope your players remain healthy for when the regular season starts!

[Waffle]

Here's our preseason ...with the opponent team's record in 2005 highlighted...

Oakland (4-12) basement team in 2005

Cleveland (6-10) basement team in 2005

Ravens (6-10) basement team in 2005

Pittsburgh (11-5) Superbowl Champs in 2005!

New York Jets (4-12) basement team in 2005

NOTE: The Cowboys play only 3 preseason games versus the Eagles 5 games. two-thirds of your preseason games are with "basement" teams versus our playing the Superbowl champs.

While I'm not interested in getting in your debate, Dallas plays FOUR Pre-Season games, with the first one against Super Bowl participant and defending NFC Champion Seattle this Saturday.

[Phoenix-Talon]

While I'm not interested in getting in your debate, Dallas plays FOUR Pre-Season games, with the first one against Super Bowl participant and defending NFC Champion Seattle this Saturday.

Sure you're right ...and I knew that, but the whole point of the post was generated toward "basement teams" (that were singled out by another poster), and the importance (or insignificance) of these pre-season games.

[Waffle]

Sure you're right ...and I knew that, but the whole point of the post was generated toward "basement teams" (that were singled out by another poster), and the importance (or insignificance) of these pre-season games.

I'm not sure you really did, P-T. To be honest, I don't even know what your point was with your post. I'm was simply pointing out that you said 2/3rds of Dallas' pre-season games were against so-called "basement teams" and by leaving off Seattle, your figure is incorrect and should be changed to 1/2 of Dallas' pre-season games are against these "basement teams."

That's all.

[5Stars]

Phonetic-Talon, why don't you save yourself some typing, and just use any of your posts from years past? They say about the same thing every year, and every year...same result...your team still has nothing to show for all of your bragging...!

Next time you want to post something, just go to the archives, find any post of yours, copy and paste, then do whatever it is that loser Eagle fans do...

Just some advice....save the stroking, it's not going to help...

:star:

[Phoenix-Talon]

your figure is incorrect and should be changed to 1/2 of Dallas' pre-season games are against these "basement teams."
That's all.

Ok ...http://www.bongoflashers.net/images_products/Dallas-Cowboys.gif :)

[Phoenix-Talon]

Phonetic-Talon, why don't you save yourself some typing, and just use any of your posts from years past? They say about the same thing every year, and every year...same result...your team still has nothing to show for all of your bragging...!

Next time you want to post something, just go to the archives, find any post of yours, copy and paste, then do whatever it is that loser Eagle fans do...

Just some advice....save the stroking, it's not going to help...

Hold on ... (long pause) ...had to drink my usual glass of water before I read your dry posts. ;)

Now what are you saying? No, can't do that ...I'd get banned for sure if I did that!:o:

[dmq]

Not a very fair accessment dmq. Why? Because you're not giving any credit to the Raiders, and you're saying that a team that has a decent QB in Aaron Brooks, ...with a wide receiver the likes of Randy Moss and Jerry Porter, ...and a running back Like Lamont Jordan is basement contender.

Secondly your assessment is based on a biased perception of an Eagles 1st Team that played "less" than one-quarter!

Come on dmq ...how about hatIng realistically!

I am not saying Oakland doesn't have very good skill players, but you have to admit that if Oakland could just tackle or react, they wouldn't have made it look so easy for the Eagles. I never said the line play wasn't dominant by the Eagles also. My whole point was that when I saw TO catch passes in the preseason w/ the Eagles, I knew we were gonna have trouble stopping him. I don't have that same fear with Reggie Brown. In the game even Madden said the Oakland run tackling was poor. Oakland may end up being a 8-8 team. I just think they will be in the running for the Brady Quinn sweepstakes.