The Calm Before the Storm

[ringmaster]

Everybody knows that the first preseason game is this Saturday, so if we lose this game which it won't really matter watch how many fans "throw in the towel" saying how the Cowboys, going to suck this year.

Fans, who are expecting to see an explosion from the Boys, won't see it because they won't show much of anything during the preseason as some fans know.

If the O-line give up three sacks to the Seahawks, then we're doomed if the D-line can't get a good pass rush then we're doomed if the defense give up a big run or two then we're doomed just watch how these type of fans react to these preseason games.

The countdown starts Saturday, win, or lose.

[shnagy]

When this happens, just remind everyone about the first preseason game against the Cardinals last year.

[ringmaster]

When this happens, just remind everyone about the first preseason game against the Cardinals last year. Good thinking we all know how they reacted to that one when the Cards, beat us only to hand them a good arse whooping in the reg. season.

Good point.

I remember the 1992 Cowboys, went 0-4 in the preseason, if I'm correct if not please correct me.

I bet most fans was saying how bad they were going to suck then but we all know how that season turned out.

Not only fans, but the media as well.

When they're 0-4 in the preseason, the media will say they're going to suck but if the go 4-0, then they will be successful.

I also remember the Colts, went 0-4 in the preseason last season and nearly challenged that 70s Dolphin team undefeated season in the reg.

[Doomsday101]

Everybody knows that the first preseason game is this Saturday, so if we lose this game which it won't really matter watch how many fans "throw in the towel" saying how the Cowboys, going to suck this year.

Fans, who are expecting to see an explosion from the Boys, won't see it because they won't show much of anything during the preseason as some fans know.

If the O-line give up three sacks to the Seahawks, then we're doomed if the D-line can't get a good pass rush then we're doomed if the defense give up a big run or two then we're doomed just watch how these type of fans react to these preseason games.

The countdown starts Saturday, win, or lose.

I'm not overly concerned about winning or losing any pre-season game. I do hope to see the 1st unit play well and see some individuals standouts. I understand that your not going to see teams show much and teams to do not make adjustments within a pre-season game. However your right we will have some who will go over board win or lose

[BigDFan5]

This has already started, some people arent waiting for the first preseason game

[ravidubey]

When this happens, just remind everyone about the first preseason game against the Cardinals last year.

3rd and 50, anyone?

[TheKey]

:laugh1: :lmao2: 3rd and 50, anyone?

[SA_Gunslinger]

anybody who puts a lot of weight on anything that happens in pre-season football, just doesn't know football.

vanilla defense.

vanilla offense.

no gameplanning....yadda yadda.
it's about player observations.

[shnagy]

3rd and 50, anyone?
:lmao2: I remember how terrible we looked, but almost forgot about that.

[joseephuss]

anybody who puts a lot of weight on anything that happens in pre-season football, just doesn't know football.

vanilla defense.

vanilla offense.

no gameplanning....yadda yadda.
it's about player observations.

Parcells runs a vanilla offense and vanilla defense in the regular season as well. :)

[Kittymama]

I know we lost last year's first preseason game. Haven't we, in most preseasons? Preseason games mean little. Enjoy them as a chance to see the lower round guys & the ones who are likely to get cut.

Now, the 3rd preseason game will be more indicative, since it's really a final tune-up.

[Doomsday101]

anybody who puts a lot of weight on anything that happens in pre-season football, just doesn't know football.

vanilla defense.

vanilla offense.

no gameplanning....yadda yadda.
it's about player observations.

Exactly. Now where that starts to change is with the 3rd pre-season games when teams will use it more as a dress rehearsal for the season opener. We will see teams playing the 1st string for about half the game and you really want to see them do well in that game. Last pre-season is a lot like the 1st where starters see a little action and you get them out of their to avoid injuries leading into week 1

[Yakuza Rich]

I'll almost guarantee that we won't score an offensive TD in this game. Hey, we haven't in the first preseason game in the Parcells era.

If there's one thing Parcells has shown me, it's that he goes extremely vanilla in the first 2 games, to the point where he doesn't blitz, doesn't show his blitz protection schemes, etc. He goes very, very basic until the 3rd game where he shows a little more, but not much.

People forget the Cowboys were awful in preseason in the Landry era. Like Landry, Parcells wants his players to work on the fundamentals and focus on executing instead of scheming.

I generally like this matchup though. Gives them a chance to play the defending NFC champs, who utilize a West Coast offense. Unlike last year against the Cardinals, they don't have to worry about the opposing team blitzing almost every down and using 3 WR sets on offense all of the time.

Rich...............

[ringmaster]

Parcells runs a vanilla offense and vanilla defense in the regular season as well. :) No kidding.

If we all know Parcells, we know that he play to the weakness of the other team.

Does the first Philly game ring a bell don't you think that maybe they knew that TG, would be a problem for Litto Shepard, that game.

What I'm saying is that Parcells, can be aggressive when he wants to be.

It just depends on the other team's weakness be it offense, or defense.

[braw]

Parcells runs a vanilla offense and vanilla defense in the regular season as well. :)


BP plays to the strength of his team, trying not to expose the teams weakness. Just like when Ware was beating everyone last TC, BP said that once someone knows his weakness he would be handled by Adams.

[Yakuza Rich]

anybody who puts a lot of weight on anything that happens in pre-season football, just doesn't know football.

vanilla defense.

vanilla offense.

no gameplanning....yadda yadda.
it's about player observations.

The only things I look out for are blown assignments, poor technique, penalties, and tackling. Even still, that doesn't mean a whole lot...but if you can excel at those in preseason it's a decent sign that the team is well coached and learning well.


Rich.........

[1fisher]

you can bet the chicken little's will be out in full force

[ringmaster]

I'm not overly concerned about winning or losing any pre-season game. I do hope to see the 1st unit play well and see some individuals standouts. I understand that your not going to see teams show much and teams to do not make adjustments within a pre-season game. However your right we will have some who will go over board win or lose No doubt they will it just in most fans nature to go overboard.

But I must give credit where credit is due you guys are much better than those on the FWST forum some them will want to smack in the face for their over rationalizing of a meaningless preseason game.

[ringmaster]

The only things I look out for are blown assignments, poor technique, penalties, and tackling. Even still, that doesn't mean a whole lot...but if you can excel at those in preseason it's a decent sign that the team is well coached and learning well.


Rich......... That is very true but most teams are very sloppy in the first preseason game anyway no matter whose coaching them.

[shnagy]

Honestly, I used to look at every Cowboys game as life or death, no matter preseason or not. Just recently have I learned to have patience with a team. So, I'm going to watch the game vs. Seattle, sit back with an ice cold brewskie, and enjoy it, because it is football. Win, lose, or draw, football season is back.

[SA_Gunslinger]

The only things I look out for are blown assignments, poor technique, penalties, and tackling. Even still, that doesn't mean a whole lot...but if you can excel at those in preseason it's a decent sign that the team is well coached and learning well.




exactly right...there are SOME things to look for. but the scoreboard isn't neccessarily one of them.

although, it is nice to develop a winning attitude early on, it's not essential.

i agree about the 3rd pre-season game too....that is the game you wanna see productivity.

[bbgun]

Everybody knows that the first preseason game is this Saturday, so if we lose this game which it won't really matter watch how many fans "throw in the towel" saying how the Cowboys, going to suck this year.

Fans, who are expecting to see an explosion from the Boys, won't see it because they won't show much of anything during the preseason as some fans know.

If the O-line give up three sacks to the Seahawks, then we're doomed if the D-line can't get a good pass rush then we're doomed if the defense give up a big run or two then we're doomed just watch how these type of fans react to these preseason games.

The countdown starts Saturday, win, or lose.

Is this your idea of a stupid pre-emptive strike? Please don't tell me or anyone else how to react to a game. If a player does well, they'll be praised. If not, they'll be criticized. Were you preaching restaint when Ware had a big pre-season game in Seattle last year? I doubt it.

[SupermanXx]

3rd and 50, anyone?

I was seriously going insane and dropping my beer when that happened

damn, can't wait for the season to start

[ringmaster]

BP plays to the strength of his team, trying not to expose the teams weakness. Just like when Ware was beating everyone last TC, BP said that once someone knows his weakness he would be handled by Adams. Good thinking here remember how most of those same fans annoited Ware, as the next Charles Haley, but once the reg. season started DeMarcus, had his hits and misses as regarding to sacks but he fizzled for a couple of games they stabbed him right in the back when they saw Merriman, get 10 sacks, in a LB heavy San Diego 3-4, and made the Pro Bowl, and it wasn't until week 16 when Ware, started to really come into his own when he sacked Jake Delhomme 3 times and sacked Rams QB, Jamie Martin once to come to the total of 8 sacks.


Even then it wasn't enough for those fans they were still whinning over how we didn't draft Merriman.

If the Cowboys, would've drafted Merriman, and San Diego, took Ware you can bet your bottom dollar Ware, would've been in the Pro Bowl and those same fans would've been crying about the Cowboys, not drafting Ware guaranteed.

Ware, led all rookie LBs, in QB pressures with 19 had Ware, led his play took over and not thinking too much he would've easily blew Merriman, out of the water in the sack dept he could've easily had more than 8 sacks.

[ringmaster]

Is this your idea of a stupid pre-emptive strike? Please don't tell me or anyone else how to react to a game. If a player does well, they'll be praised. If not, they'll be criticized. Were you preaching restaint when Ware had a big pre-season game in Seattle last year? I doubt it. I don't have time for your negative insight grandpa.

Actually I didn't and I for one knew Ware, would struggle in the reg. season doesn't all rookies.

You're a minority buddy and once you blow a gasket after this weekend's game then I will put you on the ignore.

BTW, your sig tells it all grumpy.

[SupermanXx]

I don't have time for your negative insight grandpa.

:laugh2: "grandpa"...

[ringmaster]

:laugh2: "grandpa"... That one is funny isn't it.

[superpunk]

hilarious.

[bbgun]

I don't have time for your negative insight grandpa.

I'd put you over my knee, but that would no doubt turn you on.

Actually I didn't and I for one knew Ware, would struggle in the reg. season doesn't all rookies.

Suuuuure you did.

You're a minority buddy and once you blow a gasket after this weekend's game then I will put you on the ignore.

No need to watch the game, folks. Ringmaster-baiter has pronounced that "all is well" is Cowboy Land no matter the outcome. And don't you dare utter a discouraging word!

BTW, your sig tells it all grumpy.

You're right. I should substitute a bouquet of flowers and change my handle to something more positive and uplifting, like say "Hostile."

[SupermanXx]

That one is funny isn't it.

not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but yeah, it was funny you

disregard the last word of the last sentence if you weren't being sarcastic. hahah

[Cbz40]

Keep it nice gentlemen or I'll show you how grumpy this grandpa can be. ;)

[Yakuza Rich]

3rd and 50, anyone?

Best quote after that game came from Chuck Fairbanks on whether he had ever seen a team go 3rd and 50 before.

"Once"


"Tonight."


Rich........

[ringmaster]

I'd put you over my knee, but that would no doubt turn you on.



Suuuuure you did.



No need to watch the game, folks. Ringmaster-baiter has pronounced that "all is well" is Cowboy Land no matter the outcome. And don't you dare utter a discouraging word!



You're right. I should substitute a bouquet of flowers and change my handle to something more positive and uplifting, like say "Hostile." I guess you'll like that wouldn't you sick freak.

[ringmaster]

not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but yeah, it was funny you

disregard the last word of the last sentence if you weren't being sarcastic. hahah No I wasn't being sarcastic I meant every word of it.

[ringmaster]

Keep it nice gentlemen or I'll show you how grumpy this grandpa can be. ;) It was a healthy thread until "Cap Gun" messed it up.

He's the one being disrespectful he's having these sick twisted fantasies about putting me over his knee and doing God knows what.

Straighten him out please Sir.