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randy932
08-09-2006, 10:05 AM
I heard on the radio coming home this morning that Romo is starting this weekend in order to showcase Romo for the Jets' benefit. Seems that Parcells wants to trade Romo for Ramsey because Ramsey has more experience.
Admittedly, the source is somewhat dubious. It came from a Dallas radio station, 92.5. The person reporting this was a local sportscaster with the radio station named Jack "Lockerroom" Lindstrom. I am not trying to say that this is gospel truth, other than I DEFINITELY heard this report this a.m.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?

STSINAZ
08-09-2006, 10:07 AM
ramsey may be better than romo...i hope romo doesnt end up being better than ramsey!

dargonking999
08-09-2006, 10:08 AM
dude, what kind of sense is that. Why would we not want Romo to be better the Ramsey.


and no i havent heard it, and mostley likely its bogus, because by now it would be all over the internet.

dmq
08-09-2006, 10:09 AM
I still don't know why we didn't just trade him last year for the third or possibly a second that the Jets were offering. That was just plain stupid.

trickblue
08-09-2006, 10:09 AM
I heard on the radio coming home this morning that Romo is starting this weekend in order to showcase Romo for the Jets' benefit. Seems that Parcells wants to trade Romo for Ramsey because Ramsey has more experience.
Admittedly, the source is somewhat dubious. It came from a Dallas radio station, 92.5. The person reporting this was a local sportscaster with the radio station named Jack "Lockerroom" Lindstrom. I am not trying to say that this is gospel truth, other than I DEFINITELY heard this report this a.m.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Showcasing him for the Jets is merely speculation, but I do not doubt there is a two-fold reason for his playing time.

This is his contract year so Bill wants to see what he has. We very well may keep him, but if a team such as the Jets come calling again with the widely reported third rounder for him, well we would be nuts not to take that deal...

Personally I like Ramsey, and he grew up a Cowboy fan, but he needs alot of work after the old ball coach ruined him. I'm not sure he could be in the same room with Roy without breaking into a cold sweat...

BrAinPaiNt
08-09-2006, 10:09 AM
Have heard nothing of this rumor or even anything related to the idea of Romo for Ramsey.

I am NOT saying you did not hear this on the radio I have heard or read nothing of it anywhere else.

I think during the offseason there was a Rumor that the Jets may have been interested in Romo but I believe the cowboys front office shot that down saying it was not true.

Alexander
08-09-2006, 10:10 AM
I heard on the radio coming home this morning that Romo is starting this weekend in order to showcase Romo for the Jets' benefit. Seems that Parcells wants to trade Romo for Ramsey because Ramsey has more experience.
Admittedly, the source is somewhat dubious. It came from a Dallas radio station, 92.5. The person reporting this was a local sportscaster with the radio station named Jack "Lockerroom" Lindstrom. I am not trying to say that this is gospel truth, other than I DEFINITELY heard this report this a.m.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Strange.

What exactly has Ramsey shown that would be appealing? He takes about as many sacks as Bledsoe does.

dbair1967
08-09-2006, 10:10 AM
I still don't know why we didn't just trade him last year for the third or possibly a second that the Jets were offering. That was just plain stupid.

and that was never proven to be true, which might explain why it didnt happen

David

aikemirv
08-09-2006, 10:12 AM
You know it is funny really. People always want BP to be open and candid, and when he is they don't believe him.

BP told us exactly what he was doing with Romo and people still try to make their own theories up.

AbeBeta
08-09-2006, 10:12 AM
Why would the Jets want to trade a player that they only recently traded for?

Chocolate Lab
08-09-2006, 10:13 AM
A local tool named Brian Estridge was talking about this this yesteray afternoon, but they made it clear that it was completely speculation on his part and nothing that anyone had heard.

Still, I wonder if that could have been the source of the rumor.

Really, I don't get this whole "showcasing" thing. Maybe it happens in baseball when a team is way out of the race and wants to trade someone for future prospects. But if Romo plays and looks great, which would be the only time the Jets would want him, why wouldn't we just keep him?

I think it's obvious that Parcells loves the kid and is going to give him every chance to succeed.

superpunk
08-09-2006, 10:14 AM
Romo - with an expiring contract - is not exactly "trade worthy", I don't think.

Fernando Fernandez
08-09-2006, 10:16 AM
I heard on the radio coming home this morning that Romo is starting this weekend in order to showcase Romo for the Jets' benefit. Seems that Parcells wants to trade Romo for Ramsey because Ramsey has more experience.
Admittedly, the source is somewhat dubious. It came from a Dallas radio station, 92.5. The person reporting this was a local sportscaster with the radio station named Jack "Lockerroom" Lindstrom. I am not trying to say that this is gospel truth, other than I DEFINITELY heard this report this a.m.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Now THAT is a story if it happens.

I seriously doubt it though.

We got too much invested in Tony already.
He knows the system, plus I think he's our starting Qb in October.

And Chuck Fairbanks said on Tuesday about Romo: (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...y.780a154.html)"He can make all the throws. He just needs the repetitions. Can he play in this league? Damn right he can."

The Realist
08-09-2006, 10:21 AM
Who ever started this BS is a complete moron.

Ramsey was traded for a 6th.

We supposedly turned down a 3 for Romo from the Jets (I don't buy that).

Now wer'e going to trade Romo for Ramsey?

Do the math.

theogt
08-09-2006, 10:23 AM
Great thread.

randy932
08-09-2006, 10:24 AM
Well, I just posted what I heard and in my opinion, it might make sense. We KNOW that Ramsey can win games in this league, he has done it. We DON'T know if Romo can win games in this league. He has never done it. (All due respect to coach Fairbanks). We KNOW that Parcells likes to have proven commodities rather than young unknowns on the team. It just might have some legs, this story, I mean.

Hostile
08-09-2006, 10:26 AM
A local tool named Brian Estridge was talking about this this yesteray afternoon, but they made it clear that it was completely speculation on his part and nothing that anyone had heard.

Still, I wonder if that could have been the source of the rumor.

Really, I don't get this whole "showcasing" thing. Maybe it happens in baseball when a team is way out of the race and wants to trade someone for future prospects. But if Romo plays and looks great, which would be the only time the Jets would want him, why wouldn't we just keep him?

I think it's obvious that Parcells loves the kid and is going to give him every chance to succeed.Is it just me or does it seem like trade rumors with the Jets come up an awful lot and end up being bogus?

Last year, Romo for a 3rd rounder.

Draft time, Julius to the Jets.

Now, we're showcasing Romo for them.


I don't buy any of them personally. If we're showcasing him it is for the coaching staff to evaluate him with the 1st team minus TO.

Sometimes isn't the logical conclusion the one to draw?

Chocolate Lab
08-09-2006, 10:27 AM
Besides, I have a question... Has anyone really heard that Parcells likes Ramsey? I'm not saying he doesn't, but I've never read that. I may have seen it as an internet rumor, but I don't remember Parcells ever actually saying it.

Parcells is always talking about our young QBs not being "ruined" or "lost" by taking a beating too early in their careers... Seems like Ramsey is the perfect example of that.

dargonking999
08-09-2006, 10:28 AM
Well, I just posted what I heard and in my opinion, it might make sense. We KNOW that Ramsey can win games in this league, he has done it. We DON'T know if Romo can win games in this league. He has never done it. (All due respect to coach Fairbanks). We KNOW that Parcells likes to have proven commodities rather than young unknowns on the team. It just might have some legs, this story, I mean.

Ramesy can win games?

In games he started, he has posted an 8-11 record. Fellow 2002 first round quarterbacks David Carr (1st Overall) has an 18-42 record as a starter and Joey Harrington's (3rd Overall) is 18-38. Ramsey has never started consistently and the Redskins have been noted for deficiencies in pass protection, running offense (until 2004) and mediocre receivers. His 75.0 passer rating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Ramsey


Even Quincy Carter could do better please, i'd take my chacnes with ROmo

Doomsday101
08-09-2006, 10:32 AM
Ramesy can win games?

In games he started, he has posted an 8-11 record. Fellow 2002 first round quarterbacks David Carr (1st Overall) has an 18-42 record as a starter and Joey Harrington's (3rd Overall) is 18-38. Ramsey has never started consistently and the Redskins have been noted for deficiencies in pass protection, running offense (until 2004) and mediocre receivers. His 75.0 passer rating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Ramsey


Even Quincy Carter could do better please, i'd take my chacnes with ROmo

W/L is more about the team than just the QB. Ramsey is hitting 55.7% of his passes and has 34 TD to 29 ints. Not great numbers but clearly would be a better backup who can come in for a prolonged period of time and still give the team a good chance to win. Granted this is all rumor and until more info comes out this should be treated as nothing more than gossip

trickblue
08-09-2006, 10:33 AM
Even Quincy Carter could do better please, i'd take my chacnes with ROmo

Minus 10 points for bringing the Q in to this thread... :bang2:

Hostile
08-09-2006, 10:33 AM
Well, I just posted what I heard and in my opinion, it might make sense. We KNOW that Ramsey can win games in this league, he has done it. We DON'T know if Romo can win games in this league. He has never done it. (All due respect to coach Fairbanks). We KNOW that Parcells likes to have proven commodities rather than young unknowns on the team. It just might have some legs, this story, I mean.I don't think anyone is bagging on you for posting what you heard and others are validating that they heard similar.

Don't take doubt of the act happening as doubt of your credibility.

Jarv
08-09-2006, 10:33 AM
Who ever started this BS is a complete moron.

Ramsey was traded for a 6th.

We supposedly turned down a 3 for Romo from the Jets (I don't buy that).

Now wer'e going to trade Romo for Ramsey?

Do the math.

I think he went for a 6th because the Jets had leverage knowing the Skins had no interest in Ramsey. I liked Ramsey early in his career, which is funny because he is still young.

Last year on Extremeskins people went nuts on Joe Gibbs when he announced that Mark was gonna be the starter at QB over Ramsey. Now they have all but forgotten his name.

Interesting to see how he does with the Jets, fresh start may do him good.

All in all if Romo has a good session on Sat., then lets keep him. But I guess we should keep track of how Ramsey does also. Draft value tho, wasn't Ramsey a 1st rounder ? Romo an UDFA...Funny how things work out.

I like Tony (although I favor Henson in the long haul). I liked Jason Garrett to. Maybe Tony is more than that (Jason). I think he'll get more of a chance here with Bledsoe than Jason ever got with Troy. Troy was still young when Jason was here, Bledsoe is on his last legs...IMHO...


:starspin

Hostile
08-09-2006, 10:35 AM
Besides, I have a question... Has anyone really heard that Parcells likes Ramsey? I'm not saying he doesn't, but I've never read that. I may have seen it as an internet rumor, but I don't remember Parcells ever actually saying it.

Parcells is always talking about our young QBs not being "ruined" or "lost" by taking a beating too early in their careers... Seems like Ramsey is the perfect example of that.The only reason to bring in a vet would be because both our backups are inexperienced and to answer your question, no I don't recall him saying anything about Ramsey. Maybe after the game where we pounded him into the turf he gave him credit for toughness. Beyond that, all this is speculation.

InmanRoshi
08-09-2006, 10:35 AM
Ramsey has reportedly looked horrible in Jets training camp. Another example of how having a rifle arm really doesn't translate into moving the chains.

randy932
08-09-2006, 10:37 AM
That's 8 games more than Romo has won. Of course, it is also 11 games more than Romo has lost. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard this report that I heard this morning? I personally don't think that going either way would be that bad. I see how there may be a bigger upside to go after Ramsey, IF his confidence has not been destroyed. I just was surprised to hear this report this morning. I appreciate everyone's input to this discussion.

theebs
08-09-2006, 10:38 AM
92.5 kzps? The rock station....The zztop allman bros skynrd obsessed station?

Take it with a grain of salt. I havent heard this.

I have a question though why would we trade romo for ramsey when we probably could have worked something out for a 7th round pick, although intra division trading is almost never heard of.

trickblue
08-09-2006, 10:40 AM
Last year on Extremeskins people went nuts on Joe Gibbs when he announced that Mark was gonna be the starter at QB over Ramsey. Now they have all but forgotten his name.
Yeah... but remember... Skins fans defend the flavor of the day...

Remember the famous incident where Art made fun of Brandon Noble on our team only to tag him "Blocker Magnet" when the skins picked him up the next year?

The moral is to never trust a skins fan on talent eval. They were high on Ramsey until he was traded, then he became "not that good"... the same with Smoot and Champ...

They would defend Hitler if Snyder signed him...

Doomsday101
08-09-2006, 10:40 AM
Ramsey has reportedly looked horrible in Jets training camp. Another example of how having a rifle arm really doesn't translate into moving the chains.

I agree. I think what is taking place between a QB's ears is the most important thing a QB can have. Granted my ideal QB would be a guy with good height, strong arm, accuracy and the ability to move around but what takes place between their ears is the most important trait I can think of.

Alexander
08-09-2006, 10:41 AM
Ramsey has reportedly looked horrible in Jets training camp. Another example of how having a rifle arm really doesn't translate into moving the chains.

He has the pocket presence of Chad Hutchinson.

Sorry, we have been there and done that.

Besides, if we are blowing horns in practice to get our QBs to get rid of the ball quicker and Romo is the best, why would we trade him for a player who struggles to do that?

dargonking999
08-09-2006, 10:43 AM
Minus 10 points for bringing the Q in to this thread... :bang2:

well see wht happened was QC came to my house and he said that he was signing with the cowboys Sunday if Romo doesnt do good in Seattle, becase they need a guy who has won, and has some understanding of the offense.

:D:D:D:D

Doomsday101
08-09-2006, 10:45 AM
well see wht happened was QC came to my house and he said that he was signing with the cowboys Sunday if Romo doesnt do good in Seattle, becase they need a guy who has won, and has some understanding of the offense.

:D:D:D:D

Did he say that when he was passing the joint to you? :lmao2:

DLCassidy
08-09-2006, 10:48 AM
I find this story very hard to believe.

skicat1898
08-09-2006, 10:50 AM
Only reason Romo is being played is so the Cowboys can see if he is worth keeping and preseason is the only time you can do that when your team is a supposed contender.

When the regular season starts it will be Bledsoe til he bombs out or gets injured.

With Romo getting extended time in the preseason Henson is likely to also.... It is time for Romo to step up and earn a new contract or go bye bye by the end of the season.

Hostile
08-09-2006, 10:51 AM
Only reason Romo is being played is so the Cowboys can see if he is worth keeping and preseason is the only time you can do that when your team is a supposed contender.

When the regular season starts it will be Bledsoe til he bombs out or gets injured.

With Romo getting extended time in the preseason Henson is likely to also.... It is time for Romo to step up and earn a new contract or go bye bye by the end of the season.Maybe even after he bombs out, if he does.

Doomsday101
08-09-2006, 10:54 AM
Only reason Romo is being played is so the Cowboys can see if he is worth keeping and preseason is the only time you can do that when your team is a supposed contender.

When the regular season starts it will be Bledsoe til he bombs out or gets injured.

With Romo getting extended time in the preseason Henson is likely to also.... It is time for Romo to step up and earn a new contract or go bye bye by the end of the season.

I agree. Romo is getting a chance to show what he can do. If he shows he can do the job chances are he will get a contract extention if not then he could very well be moved out.

trickblue
08-09-2006, 10:55 AM
I agree. Romo is getting a chance to show what he can do. If he shows he can do the job chances are he will get a contract extention if not then he could very well be moved out.

It's just that simple.

The problem is that it doesn't satisfy the black helicopter crowd...

Doomsday101
08-09-2006, 10:56 AM
It's just that simple.

The problem is that it doesn't satisfy the black helicopter crowd...

Well you can't please everyone, so I stopped trying. :laugh1:

Angus
08-09-2006, 11:00 AM
Randy, where were you when you heard this? What city? . . . .

Forget it. I reread your post. It was a Dallas station.

Bob Sacamano
08-09-2006, 11:11 AM
doesn't make any sense, they had an opportunity to trade Romo already, and an opportunity to trade for Ramsey, sorry, I don't believe an ounce of this rumor cuz if the Cowboys wanted to get something for Romo, they already had the chance, as well as the chance to get Ramsey, and Ramsey isn't exactly lighting up Jet's TC, so I don't see the increased interest

InmanRoshi
08-09-2006, 11:14 AM
The preseason might decide whether or not they want to offer Romo a 3 year extension at the moment, but being released outright? I'm not seeing it. Not after he's reportedly had a good camp and the only other QB on the roster has reportedly been awfull.

Bob Sacamano
08-09-2006, 11:14 AM
Ramsey has reportedly looked horrible in Jets training camp. Another example of how having a rifle arm really doesn't translate into moving the chains.

exactly, so what would be the increased interest now when we already had a chance to trade for him, if we really liked him?

MONT17
08-09-2006, 11:20 AM
witten says Romo is the da man... I'll go with that!!! Hopefully what he does in practice can translate to games... the Cowboys luck on injury free QBs has to run out sooner than later!!!

Doomsday101
08-09-2006, 11:22 AM
The preseason might decide whether or not they want to offer Romo a 3 year extension at the moment, but being released outright? I'm not seeing it. Not after he's reportedly had a good camp and the only other QB on the roster has reportedly been awfull.

I would agree they would not release Romo outright if he does not do well in pre-season but they very well could after the season when his contract is up, I hope it does not come down to that. As for Henson I have not heard that he has been awful I have seen he has had ups and downs thus far.

Cbz40
08-09-2006, 11:25 AM
As many have already stated.....If we are indeed showcasing Romo it's for our own benefit. We need to evaluate his ability as a reliable backup to Bledsoe therefore giving credence whether or not we need to sign him to a new contract. ;)

ABQCOWBOY
08-09-2006, 11:27 AM
I would agree they would not release Romo outright if he does not do well in pre-season but they very well could after the season when his contract is up, I hope it does not come down to that. As for Henson I have not heard that he has been awful I have seen he has had ups and downs thus far.

I agree. I have not seen that Henson has been awful either. Bledsoe has been Bledsoe. Nothing more.

There is definatly a left wing deal going on here. These reports of demise on Henson's behalf are greatly exaturated.

Fla Cowpoke
08-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Well, since Henson had the best numbers in the scrimmage, it's clear he has passed Romo and possibly even Bledsoe, although Bledsoe would get the nod since he has "skins on the wall" with Big Bill.

As for the proposed trade, I am not sure if it is a third AND Ramsey or just one of the two. Romo clearly has the value of those two together, but maybe we should tell them we want a first, see if they will throw us the second as a counter.

the kid 05
08-09-2006, 02:44 PM
that would be commedy, even more so if we do trade for Pat and we picked up lavar during the off season and they all turned into all pro's then we could point and laugh and blame the eagles, and redskins for miss use :p: