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BigDFan5
08-15-2006, 07:27 PM
<H3 id=a036494>"Scout swap"


Our Todd Archer reports that Scott Pioli, the New England Patriots' vice president of player personnel was in Oxnard today as part of "scout swap" - a cooperative effort between the Cowboys and Pats. Cowboys chief scout Jeff Ireland was in Patriots' camp.
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AbeBeta
08-15-2006, 07:34 PM
Scout swap? Maybe. Could be that GMs/Owners are just being nice and letting the Pioli baby see her grandpa.

BigDFan5
08-15-2006, 07:37 PM
Scout swap? Maybe. Could be that GMs/Owners are just being nice and letting the Pioli baby see her grandpa.

:laugh2: Considering our scouts were at Pats camp, and Parcells mentioned a scout swap I doubt it. maybe it was a combo of the 2 ;)

Gryphon
08-15-2006, 07:51 PM
FYI: Patriot WRs

Berlin, Eddie WR 5'11'' 194 01/14/1978 6 Northern Iowa
Brown, Troy WR 5'10'' 196 07/2/1971 14 Marshall
Caldwell, Reche WR 6'00" 215 03/28/1979 5 Florida
Childress, Brandon WR 5'10" 185 03/31/1982 1 Ohio State
Davis, Erik WR 6'0" 186 02/21/1984 0 Vanderbilt
Henry, Keron WR 6'2" 222 08/20/1982 1 Connecticut
Jackson, Chad WR 6'1" 205 03/6/1985 0 Florida
Kight, Kelvin WR 6'0" 213 07/2/1982 1 Florida
Musinski, Rich WR 6'0" 200 10/12/1980 1 William & Mary
Shelton, Matt WR 6'0" 175 04/1/1982 0 Notre Dame
Stone, John WR 5'10" 182 07/7/1979 2 Wake Forest

Dawgs0916
08-15-2006, 07:57 PM
Where is Bethel Johnson in that group?

TruBlueCowboy
08-15-2006, 07:59 PM
Oh hell, it's going down!! Tony Romo for Tom Brady!! I knew it!! ;)

Gryphon
08-15-2006, 08:00 PM
He is not listed on NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/teams/rosters/NE

masomenos
08-15-2006, 08:04 PM
He is on the Saints noew I believe.

Hiero
08-15-2006, 08:06 PM
only one I can think of thats possible is reche caldwell. no way we trade for Branch.

Gryphon
08-15-2006, 08:07 PM
He is on the Saints noew I believe.

Correct:

Johnson, Bethel WR 5'11'' 200 02/11/1979 4 Texas A&M

He is a Saint.

Angus
08-15-2006, 08:13 PM
Maybe Ireland is scouting nose tackles, not wide receivers there. The latter can come from somewhere else.

Chocolate Lab
08-15-2006, 08:16 PM
Never really thoght of it before, but is Troy Brown still a big part of their team? I know he tested the FA market and didn't get much attention before going back to the Pats. He's old now... Would the Pats part with him? He is an old Parcells fave and could return punts...

tomson75
08-15-2006, 08:16 PM
only one I can think of thats possible is reche caldwell. no way we trade for Branch.

Alexander posted something to that affect earlier today.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=968646&postcount=21

or rather Typhus.

ghst187
08-15-2006, 08:18 PM
Oh hell, it's going down!! Tony Romo for Tom Brady!! I knew it!! ;)

nope, they want Bledsoe back...
Bledsoe for Branch with Romo taking over as our starter...:laugh2:

CrazyCowboy
08-15-2006, 08:25 PM
I like this one: Jackson, Chad WR 6'1" 205 03/6/1985 0 Florida

junk
08-15-2006, 08:32 PM
I'd think OL if a trade with NE was in the works.

RockyMountainFan
08-15-2006, 08:39 PM
I'd think OL if a trade with NE was in the works.

Lets dummy this down.

Forget getting a WR from Pats - they have nothing there.

Pats are going 4-3 this year for those keeping score at home

We are deep at LB - Ellis and Singleton are the 4-3 guys we are shopping under the radar.....Shanle/Coleman was for the naive smoke screen.....Parcells is funny like that.

Pats may have some Oline depth we could be interested in.

Chocolate Lab
08-15-2006, 08:43 PM
Lets dummy this down.

Forget getting a WR from Pats - they have nothing there.

Pats are going 4-3 this year for those keeping score at home

We are deep at LB - Ellis and Singleton are the 4-3 guys we are shopping under the radar.....Shanle/Coleman was for the naive smoke screen.....Parcells is funny like that.

Pats may have some Oline depth we could be interested in.
But look here... Do you see anything?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nwe/depthchart

BigDFan5
08-15-2006, 08:46 PM
But look here... Do you see anything?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nwe/depthchart

I like Kaczur and Britt

Chocolate Lab
08-15-2006, 08:50 PM
I like Kaczur and Britt
I'm thinking we need an interior guy more than a tackle, though... But maybe not...

Hiero
08-15-2006, 08:53 PM
I like this one: Jackson, Chad WR 6'1" 205 03/6/1985 0 Florida
No way are they trading a guy they just barely drafted. I dont see that and I doubt they'd do it for shanle and or coleman anyways.

Alexander posted something to that affect earlier today.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=968646&postcount=21

or rather Typhus.
caldwell is the only one that really makes sense so doesnt surprise me.

bbgun
08-15-2006, 09:09 PM
Peterman should be watching this very carefully.

junk
08-15-2006, 09:26 PM
Lets dummy this down.

Forget getting a WR from Pats - they have nothing there.

Pats are going 4-3 this year for those keeping score at home

We are deep at LB - Ellis and Singleton are the 4-3 guys we are shopping under the radar.....Shanle/Coleman was for the naive smoke screen.....Parcells is funny like that.

Pats may have some Oline depth we could be interested in.

How about if I dummy it down?

If they are shopping Ellis and Singleton, who plays strongside OLB?

Uh, Boiman? Glymph? Carpenter is playing inside now. If they really planned on him contributing out there, they'd be getting him reps out there.

RockyMountainFan? I would have suspected you'd be from a different region of the country.

The Answer
08-15-2006, 09:30 PM
<H3 id=a036494>"Scout swap"


Our Todd Archer reports that Scott Pioli, the New England Patriots' vice president of player personnel was in Oxnard today as part of "scout swap" - a cooperative effort between the Cowboys and Pats. Cowboys chief scout Jeff Ireland was in Patriots' camp.
Posted by Rob Stroope (rstroope@dallasnews.com) http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/standing/icons/email.gif (rstroope@dallasnews.com) at 7:15 PM (http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2006/08/scout_swap.html) (E-mail this entry) (http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2006/08/scout_swap.html) | Comments (0) (http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2006/08/scout_swap.html#comments)

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For anybody that doubt's The Answer's expertise and credibility....he first broke this story last night after he had a conversation with one of his inside sources in the patriots scouting department.

~The Answer

Unforgiven
08-15-2006, 09:36 PM
Maybe Ireland is scouting nose tackles, not wide receivers there. The latter can come from somewhere else.


No chance, the Patriots are really struggling in the middle of their -line in the preseason. They are actually looking to shore up their D-line.

Clove
08-15-2006, 09:46 PM
For anybody that doubt's The Answer's expertise and credibility....he first broke this story last night after he had a conversation with one of his inside sources in the patriots scouting department.

~The AnswerYou are truly entertaining. And yes you did say that last night.
P.S. I still don't like Shanle.:)

KingTuna
08-15-2006, 10:12 PM
Never really thoght of it before, but is Troy Brown still a big part of their team? I know he tested the FA market and didn't get much attention before going back to the Pats. He's old now... Would the Pats part with him? He is an old Parcells fave and could return punts...

I could see that happening!

Teague31
08-15-2006, 10:29 PM
Vela's blog says that NE is looking hard at inside linebackers since Bruschi broke his wrist- thinks Shanle and Fowler will get looked at hard.

JackMagist
08-15-2006, 11:07 PM
For anybody that doubt's The Answer's expertise and credibility....he first broke this story last night after he had a conversation with one of his inside sources in the patriots scouting department.

~The AnswerI see you've hit the achieves of the old Nors posts to get your material. Even going so far as to take up his claims that he had inside sources with the Pats. You need an original shtick. :rolleyes:

Alexander
08-15-2006, 11:11 PM
I like Kaczur and Britt

Kaczur is on the PUP. I doubt we are going there to watch him.

big dog cowboy
08-15-2006, 11:15 PM
I like this one: Jackson, Chad WR 6'1" 205 03/6/1985 0 Florida
I wanted him also. No way we stand a chance of ever getting him now.

JonJon
08-15-2006, 11:26 PM
Chad Jackson for Terrance Cooper, straight up.

:mchammer:

Qwickdraw
08-16-2006, 02:05 AM
Reche Caldwell is currently their best and lead receiver. (with Branch holding out of course)

No way they part with him.

I could definitely see Troy Brown.
Definitely.

Screw The Hall
08-16-2006, 04:11 AM
Where is Bethel Johnson in that group?


The Pats traded traded him to the Saints before training camp for Johnathan Sullivan.

BrAinPaiNt
08-16-2006, 07:14 AM
For anybody that doubt's The Answer's expertise and credibility....he first broke this story last night after he had a conversation with one of his inside sources in the patriots scouting department.

~The Answer


Oddly enough I got it here...

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60495&highlight=scout

RockyMountainFan
08-16-2006, 07:48 PM
I see you've hit the achieves of the old Nors posts to get your material. Even going so far as to take up his claims that he had inside sources with the Pats. You need an original shtick. :rolleyes:

The answer is a weak Nors wanna be(fake). Nors was original and ahead of curve.

Gorin is the likely trade target it appears.

junk
08-16-2006, 08:20 PM
The answer is a weak Nors wanna be(fake). Nors was original and ahead of curve.

Gorin is the likely trade target it appears.

You have kind of small post history here, but you seem to know Nors pretty well.....interesting.

Hiero
08-16-2006, 08:22 PM
You have kind of small post history here, but you seem to know Nors pretty well.....interesting.
nors was banned well before july 06 if i remember right.

siegbach
08-16-2006, 08:30 PM
i thought i would add this to the post.it is from an article on yahoo i saw today.


Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/dal/)
Dallas has had a rash of injuries at the top of their wide receiver depth chart with Terrell Owens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3664/) (hamstring), Terry Glenn (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3515/) (feet) and Patrick Crayton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6975/) (ankle) all hampered by leg injuries over the past two weeks. Glenn and Crayton played in the team's preseason opener, which is where Crayton got injured, following an early touchdown catch. He has improved greatly over the past two years, solidifying himself among the team's top 3-4 receivers.
Undrafted rookies Sam Hurd and Jamaica Rector (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7584/) will gain extended reps the rest of the preseason, but expect the Cowboys to check the waiver wire following the first round of cuts. In addition, there’s a possibility of shipping linebackers Kevin Burnett (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7218/) or Scott Shanle (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6587/) to acquire either a wide receiver or offensive lineman.
On the defensive side of the ball, converted defensive end Junior Glymph (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7099/), who recorded a pair of sacks against Seattle in the preseason game, has taken full advantage of the playing time missed by both Rocky Boiman (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6019/) (thumb) and Bobby Carpenter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7767/) (knee)

RockyMountainFan
08-18-2006, 06:05 PM
Burnett on the Block?
Thats news

RiggoForever
08-19-2006, 09:59 AM
nors was banned well before july 06 if i remember right.

Why was he banned?