View Full Version : RECAP: Bill Parcells Press Conference 8/29 w/audio
DBoys
08-29-2006, 10:34 AM
I will provide an audio recap
Here is the audio recap:
http://lb.dallascowboys.com/mp3/parcells_082906.mp3
RECAP By Grizz
Posted on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 12:15:40 PM EST
Wow, what a difference it makes when reporters don't waste all of our time with T.O. questions. We learned a lot more about the Cowboys today, and Parcells was very talkative and to the point because he didn't have to deal with the stupidity of yesterday. Maybe the press is finally learning something. Nah, I doubt it.
Doesn't look like Flozell will play Thursday, some concern about the Jax game.
Still wrestling with 3 or 4 spots. McQ will play Thursday, want to see him against Erasmus James. Surprised by his ability, physically he's the same as his brother. Took a chance on him in the 7th round. He is inexperienced, he had a couple of elementary things against the Saints go wrong. But he is improving, told him before the game you got our starting QB out here so pay attention.
Wrestling with the numbers on the offensive line. We talk everyday (Jerry, Stephen, Jeff and Parcells) about contingencies because teams are interested in our players. We are getting questions about our offensive line players.
A couple of them (offensive line) have improved significantly from last year. And McQ coming in was a surprise. He does have the ability and he can assimilate the information, it's just a question of being able to do it.
McQ this year vs. Petitti last year? This kid (McQ) has more overall ability than Petitti. Petitti is excellent on the mental side, only made 4 mental errors all last year. McQ doesn't have the experience that Petitti did coming out of college.
Polite is considered a utility player, that I would hope to get 15-18 plays on offense and the same amount on special teams. Polite is more helpful on game day because he is versatile. No, he hasn't made the roster yet. (Some reporter asked the very question I suggested yesterday, is he a FB or TE? Neither I guess, Parcells called him a utility player).
We are discussing keeping 5 tackles.
Suisham I think is practice squad eligible. Used to be only two season on the practice squad, but now it's three. Vandy kicked today, to my satisfaction. Hoping he can do FG's and would really like to see him kickoff against Minnesota. He kicked off 10-15 yesterday at 80-85%, according to the specail teams coach.
The o-line is more talented and more versatile. Colombo, Fabini and Petitti have played both tackles. Gurode can play G/C, Procter can play both guards. Kosier has played tackle before, I haven't asked him to do it yet. There was sentimnet to move McQ to guard early on, but I said this guy could eventually be your LT at some point in time, and that's a valuable commoditiy. I don't want to go overboard with him because it's early.
The WR positon is down on the list of trade needs. Some of the kids have come on pretty well.
In trades I'm looking at soft spots on the roster, how can we replace the position if the starter goes down. (NT possibly, maybe SS?)
Talked with Bill Belichick this summer and he said he used to get mad when I made him do all these thing in camp (referring to working the team extra hard), but he said he's going back to it. And he reminded me of some of the things we used to do. This has been a very tough camp, I've worked them hard.
I'm going to change my practice format, I'm going back to what I did 10 years ago. Right now I rotate my 2nd and 3rd groups, some guys I'm interested in seeing play down on the depth chart, I'm taking some time to see them. I'm ending that next week because they won't get the reps in practice so they will need to develop on the scout team.
I'm going back to working the team unit segments of practice longer and with less rotating.
Very happy with Colombo's progress. He's lifting weights now and it's showing up on the field. He's got some limitations, but he covers them up well. If he continues he can be serviceable.
Gurode has had his best camp, he's more mature, he's much more serious mentally on the job. He's showing some leadership. I blamed him for the time-out we took the other night after the long pass to Glenn. A long play breaks, you have to run 40-yards down field and get the play going. I told him it's his job to get all those fat down the field. So I spoke to him about doing that. He understands.
(So much for the Belichick/Parcells feud. They talk all the time on the phone. They ask each other questions about the teams, how they run practices, etc).
I told Terry Glenn he's a better player than he was 3 years ago. He's grown up, he knows how to train and he's very seriuous now, a professional. I don't know why we hit it off so well, but we did. I told Jerry when we I wanted to trade for him that he would be one of our best players. He's very competitive. That route he ran the other day for the TD, there aren't 10 guys in the league that can run that route like he did. The only time he has problems with his route is on the short ones, sometimes he cuts them too short. He knows exactly how to set up a CB on his routes. We used to laugh about the "she" comment together when everybody else was writing about it. I told him if he kept catching passes I was going to call him "Miss America". I don't know what I was doing when I said "she", it wasn't planned or anything.
Rector will keep wortking as a punter returner. I'm going to give Skyler some returns Thursday night, but Rector might get one too.
Crayton looked OK in practice, hoping he can play Thursday.
1fisher
08-29-2006, 10:35 AM
I will provide an audio recap
is it at 11:30 cst?
DBoys
08-29-2006, 10:37 AM
is it at 11:30 cst?
Yep....
WoodysGirl
08-29-2006, 10:38 AM
Yep....why start a thread an hour before it starts?
1fisher
08-29-2006, 10:38 AM
thank eeee
BrAinPaiNt
08-29-2006, 10:40 AM
why start a thread an hour before it starts?
I am curious on this one as well.
superpunk
08-29-2006, 10:49 AM
why start a thread an hour before it starts?
Time zone confusion.
Silly DC.com. Like anyone cares what time something starts in the Central Time zone....:p:
AbeBeta
08-29-2006, 11:15 AM
Time zone confusion.
Silly DC.com. Like anyone cares what time something starts in the Central Time zone....:p:
There is a Central time zone? How quaint.
stealth
08-29-2006, 11:22 AM
lo,l they got all fancy look at them with the split screen view, very cosmopolitan
awww it went away!And there are like 2 reporters there today.
KingTuna
08-29-2006, 11:25 AM
Think we'll hear about a trade for a new WR??
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:35 AM
Ward cut. Frederickson too. Missed the other names (sounded like 4 total).
superpunk
08-29-2006, 11:36 AM
Great stuff about McQuistan. Nice surprise in camp. Even said that he would play him week 1 if he thought he was the best option. The improvement is marked and steady.
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:36 AM
The press corps are much more subdued today. Maybe they got the hint.
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:37 AM
Bill pointing out that all fines are negotiated in the CBA. (In answer to the "it's a drop in the bucket" meme from the media.)
davey999
08-29-2006, 11:37 AM
Great stuff about McQuistan. Nice surprise in camp. Even said that he would play him week 1 if he thought he was the best option. The improvement is marked and steady.
This can't be good news.
superpunk
08-29-2006, 11:38 AM
This can't be good news.
IT was hypothetical. He said it's not going to happen, as it stands right now, but he seems to have alot of confidence in McQ's ability.
EMMITTnROY
08-29-2006, 11:40 AM
This can't be good news.
if Pat McQ is starting in Jacksonville because Flozell Adams is still out, this place is gonna get like the ending of "Trading Places"
if you've seen "Trading Places" that should be funny.. and you are cool..
TX_Yid
08-29-2006, 11:41 AM
finally found the live PC :)
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:41 AM
How do the kickers factor into your thought process on who to keep?
Depends on who you take to the game. You want to avoid having to cut a player that you know can play for you to keep a player only because it's a dire situation.
superpunk
08-29-2006, 11:41 AM
just a replay of yesterdays PC at the moment right? when does todays start?
its on now.
joseephuss
08-29-2006, 11:42 AM
if Pat McQ is starting in Jacksonville because Flozell Adams is still out, this place is gonna get like the ending of "Trading Places"
if you've seen "Trading Places" that should be funny.. and you are cool..
Or they are trading away Flozell. :laugh2:
superpunk
08-29-2006, 11:43 AM
Or they are trading away Flozell. :laugh2:
Board explodes....:explode:
superpunk
08-29-2006, 11:44 AM
Vandy's been kicking yesterday and today, to Bill's satisfaction. Doesn't want to risk him much against MIN.
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:46 AM
It's actually kind of a boring PC. (Thank heavens!)
TX_Yid
08-29-2006, 11:47 AM
was that Petitti that he was saying could eventually be the starting LT (in the future)?
davey999
08-29-2006, 11:48 AM
was that Petitti that he was saying could eventually be the starting LT (in the future)?
No. McQuistan. Unbeliveable. Bill's in love with the guy.
TX_Yid
08-29-2006, 11:49 AM
No. McQuistan. Unbeliveable. Bill's in love with the guy.
well if Bill thinks so then I'm willing to go along with him!
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:49 AM
In reference to teams calling you, what would trigger a trade? Is it position, like WR?
No. Actually encouraged by our WRs now, so a new WR is down the list of our needs.
I'm in the contingency mode now. I pretty much know where we're going, barring injury. Now I'm trying to figure what could happen. What happens if the top player in each position goes down, what are our weakest areas for backup--soft spots. There are a couple of those above the WR spot.
There isn't a team in the league that doesn't have an across the board strong team. Everyone has soft spots. So on our team, the positions that I think are solid are more the ones I'm thinking.
EMMITTnROY
08-29-2006, 11:50 AM
No. McQuistan. Unbeliveable. Bill's in love with the guy.
But wait!! I thought that Parcells couldn't draft offensive lineman!! :rolleyes:
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:51 AM
Oh! Interesting--listen up LaTuna:
"I sat down with Bill Belichick this summer & talked about the things I used to do." (He means in reference to personnel decisions.) He told me he used to get mad at me but now he does them too.
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:51 AM
Made this camp a tough camp. Wanted to toughen up a lot of positions (defense, TEs).
davey999
08-29-2006, 11:52 AM
But wait!! I thought that Parcells couldn't draft offensive lineman!! :rolleyes:
Not in the 1st three rounds at least. :laugh2:
Draegerman
08-29-2006, 11:55 AM
Stated that he's happy with Columbo's progress too.
LowTech
08-29-2006, 11:57 AM
get those big butts moving :laugh2:
stealth
08-29-2006, 11:57 AM
hahahaha he told gurode he needed to get the other fat ***es down the field
TX_Yid
08-29-2006, 11:58 AM
Gurode told to "Get those other fat arses up to the line of scrimmage" on long pass completions :laugh1: :lmao2: :lmao:
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:58 AM
Worried about the defense not having had enough work. Going to be hot in JAX & they just haven't had a lot of work. Smaller number of them playing too.
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 11:59 AM
Talking about Belichick again--said he's talked to him 4 or 5 times in the past month. "He's a guy I think a lot of."
zrinkill
08-29-2006, 12:00 PM
I thought they hated each other :rolleyes: :lmao:
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 12:00 PM
Does Todd Archer have a neck at all? They just showed a shot of him.
Draegerman
08-29-2006, 12:01 PM
Gurode told to "Get those other fat arses up to the line of scrimmage" on long pass completions :laugh1: :lmao2: :lmao:
I loved how he tied it into how Gurode wasn't "The Last of the Mohicans" getting down there, but that he did hold him responsible for getting the rest of the offensive linemen back into position.
Hilarious!:lmao2:
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 12:01 PM
I thought they hated each other :rolleyes: :lmao:
That's why it's interesting. There used to be quite a feud going on. Nice to hear they've reconciled.
zrinkill
08-29-2006, 12:02 PM
I dont think there was ever a fued .... I think it was more Mediot nonsense.
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 12:02 PM
Now a long discussion of Terry Glenn. You can definitely tell Bill loves the guy.
Worried about the defense not having had enough work. Going to be hot in JAX & they just haven't had a lot of work. Smaller number of them playing too.
Nothing a little pickle juice can't cure !
http://www.goldenpicklejuice.com/
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 12:04 PM
I dont think there was ever a fued .... I think it was more Mediot nonsense.
Well, there definitely was a period where it was pretty strained between them. Also, the two books recently written about Belichick--with Belichick's assistance--had some pretty nasty things to say about Parcells. So there was a history. He also had fallen out with Charlie Weis, but that appears to have smoothed over too. I guess they've all mellowed with age.
Draegerman
08-29-2006, 12:04 PM
Without a doubt, this is one of the most informative press conferences to date. Kudos to the media for finally asking the "right questions".
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 12:06 PM
Still talking about Terry. Now on the "she" incident. Said they laughed about it even back when he said it, & that they've joked about it over time. It's taken on a life of its own now. Has other players he still calls by their nicknames. (You really can tell how fond he is of Terry.)
Also talking about how hard he works out.
TX_Yid
08-29-2006, 12:07 PM
Without a doubt, this is one of the most informative press conferences to date. Kudos to the media for finally asking the "right questions".
no kidding.. some gems in there!
zrinkill
08-29-2006, 12:07 PM
Mrs America! :lmao:
Now they will have to change it to Mrs Americas Team!
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 12:07 PM
Without a doubt, this is one of the most informative press conferences to date. Kudos to the media for finally asking the "right questions".
Yes definitely! Isn't it nice when they're looking for information & not to be combative?
Interesting that Jen Engel wasn't there today (or at least wasn't asking questions).
zrinkill
08-29-2006, 12:08 PM
Kudos to the media for finally asking the "right questions".
Here Here! That is what I am talking about ...... I guess they actually looked at that poll on DMN ....
CATCH17
08-29-2006, 12:09 PM
The Miss America line was hillarious.
You can tell BP thinks Terry is truly one of the best in the entire league.
And we stole him from Green Bay for a 6th !
lspain1
08-29-2006, 12:10 PM
So what's up with Flozell?
if Pat McQ is starting in Jacksonville because Flozell Adams is still out, this place is gonna get like the ending of "Trading Places"
if you've seen "Trading Places" that should be funny.. and you are cool..
You mean like this?
Hostile: "Looking good, Reality!"
Reality: "Feeling good, Hostile!"
...as they lay on a beach?
Hmmm...not sure I'm following your logic there, EMMITnROY.
Without a doubt, this is one of the most informative press conferences to date. Kudos to the media for finally asking the "right questions".
I would agree with that. One of the most enjoyable pc, learning about the rest of the team. Big Bill and Little Bill talking about things involving each others teams, very telling. He made reference about he asked more questions than little Bill.
zrinkill
08-29-2006, 12:11 PM
The Miss America line was hillarious.
You can tell BP thinks Terry is truly one of the best in the entire league.
The kid has really showed something this preseason ....
If nothing else signing T.O. may have turned Terry into a monster ....
Or he is just trying to earn the trust Bill and Jerry showed him this offseason with that big raise..... nice to see a player earn their money for once.
1fisher
08-29-2006, 12:13 PM
notice how someone at the end of the PC asked about # 81 and didn't reference him by name?:laugh2:
The kid has really showed something this preseason ....
If nothing else signing T.O. may have turned Terry into a monster ....
Or he is just trying to earn the trust Bill and Jerry showed him this offseason with that big raise..... nice to see a player earn their money for once.
Or care after they got a raise.
TX_Yid
08-29-2006, 12:17 PM
notice how someone at the end of the PC asked about # 81 and didn't reference him by name?:laugh2:
I thought he asked about Pat Watkins? maybe that was the next question. I tend to lose focus on who they are talking about.. probably because I'm working so hard as I'm listening :)
Draegerman
08-29-2006, 12:20 PM
Still talking about Terry. Now on the "she" incident. Said they laughed about it even back when he said it, & that they've joked about it over time. It's taken on a life of its own now. Has other players he still calls by their nicknames. (You really can tell how fond he is of Terry.)
Also talking about how hard he works out.
I sent Mosley an email asking him to get Parcells to consider referring to Terrell as "She-rrell". ;)
austintodallas
08-29-2006, 12:32 PM
The Miss America line was hillarious.
You can tell BP thinks Terry is truly one of the best in the entire league.I'd still like to know what Parcells was ripping him a new one over at training camp a couple weeks ago.
Sam I Am
08-29-2006, 12:37 PM
WHERE IS MY RECAP!!! :) I was at lunch and missed it!
I would like to know about the "soft spots" can what player would get traded to fill those spots.
justbob
08-29-2006, 12:41 PM
You mean like this?
Hostile: "Looking good, Reality!"
Reality: "Feeling good, Hostile!"
...as they lay on a beach?
Hmmm...not sure I'm following your logic there, EMMITnROY.
I was thinking more like the total panic:laugh2: on the trading floor
EMMITTnROY
08-29-2006, 12:44 PM
You mean like this?
Hostile: "Looking good, Reality!"
Reality: "Feeling good, Hostile!"
...as they lay on a beach?
Hmmm...not sure I'm following your logic there, EMMITnROY.
haha!! that actually made me laugh out loud.. :lmao: kudos to you, especially for knowing the movie so well..
and yes, justbob, i was definitely talking about the total panic and pandemonium on the trading floor of the wall street war room.. anytime i think of lots of people freaking out, that is the picture that pops up into my head..
Kittymama
08-29-2006, 12:47 PM
Hopefully this is ok. This is Grizz's recap from his blog http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/:
By Grizz
Posted on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 12:15:40 PM EST
Wow, what a difference it makes when reporters don't waste all of our time with T.O. questions. We learned a lot more about the Cowboys today, and Parcells was very talkative and to the point because he didn't have to deal with the stupidity of yesterday. Maybe the press is finally learning something. Nah, I doubt it.
Doesn't look like Flozell will play Thursday, some concern about the Jax game.
Still wrestling with 3 or 4 spots. McQ will play Thursday, want to see him against Erasmus James. Surprised by his ability, physically he's the same as his brother. Took a chance on him in the 7th round. He is inexperienced, he had a couple of elementary things against the Saints go wrong. But he is improving, told him before the game you got our starting QB out here so pay attention.
Wrestling with the numbers on the offensive line. We talk everyday (Jerry, Stephen, Jeff and Parcells) about contingencies because teams are interested in our players. We are getting questions about our offensive line players.
A couple of them (offensive line) have improved significantly from last year. And McQ coming in was a surprise. He does have the ability and he can assimilate the information, it's just a question of being able to do it.
McQ this year vs. Petitti last year? This kid (McQ) has more overall ability than Petitti. Petitti is excellent on the mental side, only made 4 mental errors all last year. McQ doesn't have the experience that Petitti did coming out of college.
Polite is considered a utility player, that I would hope to get 15-18 plays on offense and the same amount on special teams. Polite is more helpful on game day because he is versatile. No, he hasn't made the roster yet. (Some reporter asked the very question I suggested yesterday, is he a FB or TE? Neither I guess, Parcells called him a utility player).
We are discussing keeping 5 tackles.
Suisham I think is practice squad eligible. Used to be only two season on the practice squad, but now it's three. Vandy kicked today, to my satisfaction. Hoping he can do FG's and would really like to see him kickoff against Minnesota. He kicked off 10-15 yesterday at 80-85%, according to the specail teams coach.
The o-line is more talented and more versatile. Colombo, Fabini and Petitti have played both tackles. Gurode can play G/C, Procter can play both guards. Kosier has played tackle before, I haven't asked him to do it yet. There was sentimnet to move McQ to guard early on, but I said this guy could eventually be your LT at some point in time, and that's a valuable commoditiy. I don't want to go overboard with him because it's early.
The WR positon is down on the list of trade needs. Some of the kids have come on pretty well.
In trades I'm looking at soft spots on the roster, how can we replace the position if the starter goes down. (NT possibly, maybe SS?)
Talked with Bill Belichick this summer and he said he used to get mad when I made him do all these thing in camp (referring to working the team extra hard), but he said he's going back to it. And he reminded me of some of the things we used to do. This has been a very tough camp, I've worked them hard.
I'm going to change my practice format, I'm going back to what I did 10 years ago. Right now I rotate my 2nd and 3rd groups, some guys I'm interested in seeing play down on the depth chart, I'm taking some time to see them. I'm ending that next week because they won't get the reps in practice so they will need to develop on the scout team.
I'm going back to working the team unit segments of practice longer and with less rotating.
Very happy with Colombo's progress. He's lifting weights now and it's showing up on the field. He's got some limitations, but he covers them up well. If he continues he can be serviceable.
Gurode has had his best camp, he's more mature, he's much more serious mentally on the job. He's showing some leadership. I blamed him for the time-out we took the other night after the long pass to Glenn. A long play breaks, you have to run 40-yards down field and get the play going. I told him it's his job to get all those fat down the field. So I spoke to him about doing that. He understands.
(So much for the Belichick/Parcells feud. They talk all the time on the phone. They ask each other questions about the teams, how they run practices, etc).
I told Terry Glenn he's a better player than he was 3 years ago. He's grown up, he knows how to train and he's very seriuous now, a professional. I don't know why we hit it off so well, but we did. I told Jerry when we I wanted to trade for him that he would be one of our best players. He's very competitive. That route he ran the other day for the TD, there aren't 10 guys in the league that can run that route like he did. The only time he has problems with his route is on the short ones, sometimes he cuts them too short. He knows exactly how to set up a CB on his routes. We used to laugh about the "she" comment together when everybody else was writing about it. I told him if he kept catching passes I was going to call him "Miss America". I don't know what I was doing when I said "she", it wasn't planned or anything.
Rector will keep wortking as a punter returner. I'm going to give Skyler some returns Thursday night, but Rector might get one too.
Crayton looked OK in practice, hoping he can play Thursday.
haha!! that actually made me laugh out loud.. :lmao: kudos to you, especially for knowing the movie so well..
Thank you. I pride myself on my vast repository of worthless knowledge. I did, however, quote the END of the movie. I think the part you were referring to is the 'climax'.
;)
Charles
08-29-2006, 12:55 PM
Gurode has had his best camp, he's more mature, he's much more serious mentally on the job. He's showing some leadership. I blamed him for the time-out we took the other night after the long pass to Glenn. A long play breaks, you have to run 40-yards down field and get the play going. I told him it's his job to get all those fat down the field. So I spoke to him about doing that. He understands.
Wait a minute coach, make sure Al Johnson also gets the memo. You know we play 4-3 defensive fronts this season!!!
1fisher
08-29-2006, 12:58 PM
I thought he asked about Pat Watkins? maybe that was the next question. I tend to lose focus on who they are talking about.. probably because I'm working so hard as I'm listening :)
someone may have asked about watkins.... but this was at the very end when he was getting up to walk out.... The guy must have been scared to say TO's name!:laugh2:
Angus
08-29-2006, 01:00 PM
Thanks to everyone who contributed to the thread. Thanks!!
EMMITTnROY
08-29-2006, 01:02 PM
Thank you. I pride myself on my vast repository of worthless knowledge. I did, however, quote the END of the movie. I think the part you were referring to is the 'climax'.
;)
haha, yes indeed.. which is why you had me laughing.. :)
DBoys
08-29-2006, 01:10 PM
Here is the audio recap:
http://lb.dallascowboys.com/mp3/parcells_082906.mp3
I got tied up on a fews things and couldnt do it.
fanfromvirginia
08-29-2006, 01:12 PM
So Parcells just flat-out said McQ is more talented than Pettiti? Me thinks BP has decided to Mind-F Pettiti this year and see what happens...
Chocolate Lab
08-29-2006, 01:14 PM
So Parcells just flat-out said McQ is more talented than Pettiti? Me thinks BP has decided to Mind-F Pettiti this year and see what happens...
Or maybe McQ really is simply more talented. Which IMO is obvious. :)
Rack Bauer
08-29-2006, 01:15 PM
Or maybe McQ really is simply more talented. Which IMO is obvious. :)
:hammer:
theogt
08-29-2006, 01:18 PM
We are discussing keeping 5 tackles.:crossed:
CrazyCowboy
08-29-2006, 01:19 PM
nice recap....better then the T.O. news all the time
fanfromvirginia
08-29-2006, 01:21 PM
Or maybe McQ really is simply more talented. Which IMO is obvious. :)
Yeah, that's the other possibility. It just seems that Pettiti's fall and McQ's rise have been simultaneous and exceptionally rapid. And as much as I like McQ, I do feel sorry for what is happening to Pettiti.
fanfromvirginia
08-29-2006, 01:23 PM
What was that bull**** VanderJ was saying about kicking 65 out of 71 FGs yesterday? Was he drunk? Or was that just another false reporting (don't remember where I read it)?
theogt
08-29-2006, 01:24 PM
What was that bull**** VanderJ was saying about kicking 65 out of 71 FGs yesterday? Was he drunk? Or was that just another false reporting (don't remember where I read it)?It was reported in two separate papers so my guess is he was drunk.
Chocolate Lab
08-29-2006, 01:24 PM
Yeah, that's the other possibility. It just seems that Pettiti's fall and McQ's rise have been simultaneous and exceptionally rapid. And as much as I like McQ, I do feel sorry for what is happening to Pettiti.
I don't think it's really a question of Petitti "falling", because I'm sure that by being in better shape he's a better player than he was last year. It's just that we have more options this year, and a couple of them are ahead of him.
It's not a bad thing for Rob; it's a good thing for the rest of the team.
Death Star
08-29-2006, 01:24 PM
So Parcells just flat-out said McQ is more talented than Pettiti? Me thinks BP has decided to Mind-F Pettiti this year and see what happens...
He said that McQ was better physically but that Pettiti was very good mentally, having just 4 mental errors throughout the entire '05 season. So It sounded more like an honest assesment of each player's pros and cons than Pettiti getting tossed under the bus.
EMMITTnROY
08-29-2006, 01:25 PM
Yeah, that's the other possibility. It just seems that Pettiti's fall and McQ's rise have been simultaneous and exceptionally rapid. And as much as I like McQ, I do feel sorry for what is happening to Pettiti.
eh.. Parcells likes Pettiti, and he has improved lots.. and if Flozell or Colombo goes down, Petitti will be filling in, not McQ.. McQ is a project with a lot of potential and upside.. McQ is rising, but I dont think that means that Pettiti is falling.. hey, these two guys might be our bookends on the line for a long time.. we shall see..
EMMITTnROY
08-29-2006, 01:27 PM
It was reported in two separate papers so my guess is he was drunk.
if so, maybe we should get him a six pack of Miller Lite before each game.. 66 of 71 is pretty dang good..
maybe that was Cundiff's problem all along! God knows no store clerk in their right mind would sell him any alcohol, they can get thrown in jail for selling beer to a 14 year old..
Hostile
08-29-2006, 01:27 PM
Wrestling with the numbers on the offensive line. We talk everyday (Jerry, Stephen, Jeff and Parcells) about contingencies because teams are interested in our players. We are getting questions about our offensive line players.I'm worried sick about the offensive line, they're fielding trade questions.
:eek:
WoodysGirl
08-29-2006, 01:27 PM
Yeah, that's the other possibility. It just seems that Pettiti's fall and McQ's rise have been simultaneous and exceptionally rapid. And as much as I like McQ, I do feel sorry for what is happening to Pettiti.What's to feel sorry for?
He'll still be on the roster. He's getting valuable experience at two important positions on the line. As the #3 tackle, he'll be active on game day, which is almost as important as being on the roster.
He simply got beat out by another player. It happens all the time. Doesn't make him a bad player, just means that the other player was better.
Anyone think Rob may be on the trading block ?
I would only do it if we got more than what we paid. What was he a 6th or 7th ?
What does a starting OT get in a trade these days ? 2nd or 3rd ?
theogt
08-29-2006, 01:28 PM
if so, maybe we should get him a six pack of Miller Lite before each game.. 66 of 71 is pretty dang good..
maybe that was Cundiff's problem all along! God knows no store clerk in their right mind would sell him any alcohol, they can get thrown in jail for selling beer to a 14 year old..I've always thought my work product was better after a few.
superpunk
08-29-2006, 01:30 PM
I'm worried sick about the offensive line, they're fielding trade questions.
:eek:
Bizarre, isn't it?
But they've pass-blocked exceptionally well thus far. Run blocking has been spotty, but decent. It doesn't seem possible that in a few weaks this could go from being a panic position on the team, to a position where depth is expendable, but maybe it is?
noshame
08-29-2006, 01:36 PM
Good Heavens, can we wait till the games start counting before we annoint the OL tradable? LOL
I think for now I'll stick with "we may be in trouble":eek:
EMMITTnROY
08-29-2006, 01:43 PM
i am actually feeling pretty good about the o-line.. i think it will be just fine.. here is the way i look at it, it's really simple:
Last Year/This Year:
Torrin Tucker/Flozell Adams - HUGE improvement, even if Flo isn't 100%
Larry Allen/Kyle Kosier - i'll give this a push.. Larry is still better, but Kosier is more flexible at this point in his career
Al Johnson/Andre Gurode - slight improvement.. sounds like Gurode is the starter, even going against 4-3 defenses, because he is much improved..
Marco Rivera/Marco Rivera - big improvement.. sounds like he is completely healed and doing much better than he did last year after back surgery..
Rob Pettiti/Marc Colombo - big improvement.. Pettiti showed a lot of heart last year, but he just got pushed around.. Colombo looks like he has beat an improved Pettiti and proven vet Fabini out, which is very telling about Colombo's ability..
overall, our line is gonna be much improved.. oh yeah, we also have 2 tight ends every down to help out.. oh yeah, we also have TO and Terry Glenn giving defenses more pause to blitz all the time..
Hostile
08-29-2006, 01:44 PM
Good Heavens, can we wait till the games start counting before we annoint the OL tradable? LOL
I think for now I'll stick with "we may be in trouble":eek:I'm with noshame.
Unless someone offers us a deal we can't pass up, let's enjoy OL depth if we actually have some.
theogt
08-29-2006, 01:47 PM
i am actually feeling pretty good about the o-line.. i think it will be just fine.. here is the way i look at it, it's really simple:
Last Year/This Year:
Torrin Tucker/Flozell Adams - HUGE improvement, even if Flo isn't 100%
Larry Allen/Kyle Kosier - i'll give this a push.. Larry is still better, but Kosier is more flexible at this point in his career
Al Johnson/Andre Gurode - slight improvement.. sounds like Gurode is the starter, even going against 4-3 defenses, because he is much improved..
Marco Rivera/Marco Rivera - big improvement.. sounds like he is completely healed and doing much better than he did last year after back surgery..
Rob Pettiti/Marc Colombo - big improvement.. Pettiti showed a lot of heart last year, but he just got pushed around.. Colombo looks like he has beat an improved Pettiti and proven vet Fabini out, which is very telling about Colombo's ability..
overall, our line is gonna be much improved.. oh yeah, we also have 2 tight ends every down to help out.. oh yeah, we also have TO and Terry Glenn giving defenses more pause to blitz all the time..I'd also add that Jason Witten is looking much better at run blocking. Against San Francisco he had some "highlight reel" blocks.
baj1dallas
08-29-2006, 02:35 PM
I'm with noshame.
Unless someone offers us a deal we can't pass up, let's enjoy OL depth if we actually have some.
Well what good does Petiti do you on the bench all season when somebody is willing to offer you a 2nd or 3rd round pick? OTOH both Colombo and Flozell are injury risks (at least this year) so I don't want to get rid of him either.
The Realist
08-29-2006, 02:38 PM
Well what good does Petiti do you on the bench all season when somebody is willing to offer you a 2nd or 3rd round pick? OTOH both Colombo and Flozell are injury risks (at least this year) so I don't want to get rid of him either.
:lmao: :lmao2: :lmao: :lmao2:
BigDFan5
08-29-2006, 02:57 PM
I'm worried sick about the offensive line, they're fielding trade questions.
:eek:
That was my thought as well Hos. Alot of Cowboys fans want to dump the whole group, and other teams want to trade for some lol
superpunk
08-29-2006, 03:00 PM
That was my thought as well Hos. Alot of Cowboys fans want to dump the whole group, and other teams want to trade for some lol
I think it's more encouraging than anything.
WoodysGirl
08-29-2006, 03:00 PM
Belichick and Parcells together again!
Bill Parcells and his former defensive coordinator, Bill Belichick, have apparently put aside their differences and become pals again. Parcells said today that he's been using Belichick as a "sounding board" and has made changes to his practice approach based on those conversations.
In case you've forgotten, these two had a major falling out in 2000, when Parcells handed the Jets' head coaching job to his understudy. Belichick bolted for New England and said less-than-flattering things about Parcells in a book.
Here are more highlights from today's Parcells news conference:
• Parcells continued to praise the work of rookie left tackle Pat McQuistan, who may end up starting if Flozell Adams can't go in Jacksonville. Adams will not play against the Vikings on Thursday. Parcells wants to see how McQuistan performs against Vikings defensive end Erasmus James.
The Cowboys thought about playing McQuistan at guard before training camp. They actually focused on his brother, Paul, in the draft because he had more experience. Paul is now starting at guard for the Raiders.
"We didn't really know the ability he had," Parcells said of Pat.
Asked to compare McQuistan to Petitti at this time last year, Parcells said that Petitti had a better understanding of the game but McQuistan had more athletic ability.
Petitti will probably begin the season as the swing tackle, meaning he'll back up Adams and the starter at right tackle.
• Parcells said center Andre Gurode has taken on more of a leadership role. The departure of Gurode's best friend, Torrin Tucker, might have been the best thing that could have happened to him.
• Parcells said he's thinking about the possibility of keeping five offensive tackles. Veteran Jason Fabini may be the odd man out if he doesn't keep that many.
• Mike Vanderjagt has kicked in the past two practices, and Parcells wants to have him to handle at least one kickoff against the Vikings.
Asked how he did on kickoffs in practice, Parcells joked, "He got a couple to midfield."
• Parcells said there's a chance you'll see third-string quarterback Matt Baker on Thursday. The Cowboys may end up placing Baker on the practice squad and begin the season with two quarterbacks.
• With the rise of Jamaica Rector and return of Patrick Crayton, Parcells said adding another wide receiver is no longer a top priority.
• Parcells said there were four or five roster spots still up for grabs heading into Thursday's game.
• Parcells called wide receiver Terry Glenn "one of the best guys in football." He said there aren't 10 other receivers in the game who could have run the route that Glenn ran on his touchdown catch Saturday.
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LaTunaNostra
08-29-2006, 03:08 PM
Oh! Interesting--listen up LaTuna:
"I sat down with Bill Belichick this summer & talked about the things I used to do." (He means in reference to personnel decisions.) He told me he used to get mad at me but now he does them too.
Yeah well, Parcells isn't the reason I hate Mumbles. ;)
LaTunaNostra
08-29-2006, 03:18 PM
I'd still like to know what Parcells was ripping him a new one over at training camp a couple weeks ago.
Austin2D, CaliCowboy was there and witnessed it, he told me Bill most certainly did NOT rip T a new one over not practicing, and did not drop F bombs on him like the press reported. CaliCowboy said it was a very quiet conversation.
I don't know why I am so stupid as to believe anything the press reports.
To the poster who mentioned it is nice seeing a player play hard AFTER he signs a contract...I think Terry would play hard regardless..he certainly has since he's been here.
But there is a five milion dollar roster bonus in that contract, due next year. Gotta believe that's a little extra incentive.
NFL Live just featured the part of Bill's pc where he talked about Terry - they used it to launch into a TO discussion, sigh.
Grizz, awesome summary - so much great stuff to mull over today. KM, good work, too!
Thanks!~!!
LaTunaNostra
08-29-2006, 03:27 PM
He said that McQ was better physically but that Pettiti was very good mentally, having just 4 mental errors throughout the entire '05 season. So It sounded more like an honest assesment of each player's pros and cons than Pettiti getting tossed under the bus.
Sorry for the three consecutive posts, but I missed this today.
It sounds like McQ is something very special. He has all the tools, the range, the size, the ability to play in space that you want in an elite LT. It is a miracle he fell into our laps. Or good scouting. He may even be, dare I say it, in the Gallery mode physically.
McQ is what Tucker was hoped to be..enormous physical potential, combining size, strength, agility and smarts. We fooled around with Tucker for a long time, hoping it would all add up.
We really lucked out with McQ....only two years of college ball, that means we don't even understand what his potential is.
None of this is a knock on Rob. It's just that McQ is being represented (by Bill) as something very special - elite LT material.
trueblue1687
08-29-2006, 04:06 PM
I for one am thrilled with what I consider one of the deepest O-lines we've had in years. If other teams are calling with trade questions...there's obviously something there that is apparent to other talent evaluators. I can envision keeping all of the OL help on the final roster, then working a trade or two later...that would be smart if you could survive elsewhere on the roster. I can't see many if any OL surviving to the practice squad. I think Proctor, McQ are probably the only ones eligible.
Bob Sacamano
08-29-2006, 04:19 PM
There was sentimnet to move McQ to guard early on, but I said this guy could eventually be your LT at some point in time
future LT anyone?
and it looks like Gurode's mental problems may be a thing of the past, that's good, cuz the ability is huge
diehard2294
08-29-2006, 04:33 PM
I hope Gurode carries this momentum into the season, I watched him on tape the other night and he looks quicker and stronger. It's great to see lineman pull without falling down for a change:D
Charles
08-29-2006, 04:36 PM
future LT anyone?
and it looks like Gurode's mental problems may be a thing of the past, that's good, cuz the ability is huge
Warming up to Gurode huh!!!.
Almost made me let you slide on our bet. I'll be sad to see John Lennon's face gone for the month of September:p:
p.s. Summer is overrated........The Fall rocks atleast diehard football fans think so :p:
JonJon
08-29-2006, 05:47 PM
Whuaaaaaa? No entire segment dedicted to Parcells vs TO and his fabulous scheme devised to undermind Parcells? What is the media thinking?
Aikmaniac
08-29-2006, 09:48 PM
By how Bill answered questions today, you can see how players that buy what he's selling will do whatever it takes to please him. I'd play for a coach like him anyday.
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