IMHO - The real reason we are upset at cutting Petitti

[FLCowboyFan]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!

[THUMPER]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.

[Zaxor]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.

I'm right there with ya 100% friend

[AbeBeta]

Actually, I thought he was a young guy who could develop into what Fabini was in his prime.

But when a 2nd year guy gets totally blown away by a 7th round rookie with little experience, it makes you wonder whether he's "got it"

[FLCowboyFan]

we could not afford a repeat of last year at right tackle. I have definately in the camp of getting better however we did so. Time will tell if he will be great someday.

[theogt]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.I'm not sure we've been watchin the same player.

[dargonking999]

No the reason the cut hurt me, was cause i knew this kid had a chance to be a corner stone for out OL, regardless of what people were saying. but he's gonna be that another team sadly now

[Kilyin]

Someone should fire Parcells. Get Jerrah on the horn.

He keeps cutting these all-world talents. I mean, did Parcells watch the games last year and this preseason???! Pettiti is a superstar! I hear he once blocked Dwight Freeney in college! Surely that has to count for something. And what about Torrin Tucker? Doesn't he see the UPSIDE? Parcells is ruining any chance we had at a Superbowl and I'm personally infuriated about it all.

[AbeBeta]

No the reason the cut hurt me, was cause i knew this kid had a chance to be a corner stone for out OL, regardless of what people were saying. but he's gonna be that another team sadly now

Of course, had he shown that sort of talent in TC and pre-season, he'd still be here.

[Big Dakota]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!



Last great hope? For what?

[FLCowboyFan]

Big Dakota.....I was saying it WASN'T because he was our last great hope at RT.

[cowboy4eva]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent Agreed. Talent and work ethic are guys I prefer to keep. I figured it was down to he or Fabini and was hoping maybe BP could keep both, but Parcells clearly sees more potential in McQ and went with the vet for Rob.
In BP I trust.

[fortdick]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum.

Did you wake up today thinking."How can I be an a****** today? Rob did everything the organization asked of him. He started 16 games for us last year, played through injuries, etc. No one said he was starter calibur last year, but he gave his best. He didn't get much help during the second half of the season because Tucker needed everyone to help him get out of the way of DE's. All this to cover for Parcell's great choice in Rogers. Maybe, given time, he could have had the luxury of time to develop like McQ.

Rob worked hard and showed dedication. I would rather have have one of him then 10 Fabini's. Character is a rare commodity in professional sports these days. Rob has character. He may not be an all pro, but he will play somewhere. Parcell's scrrewed the pooch on this move!

Don't for a second believe that PittDawg had any influence on my take on Rob. Go spew your hatred somewhere else.

[theogt]

Did you wake up today thinking."How can I be an a****** today? Rob did everything the organization asked of him. He started 16 games for us last year, played through injuries, etc. No one said he was starter calibur last year, but he gave his best. He didn't get much help during the second half of the season because Tucker needed everyone to help him get out of the way of DE's. All this to cover for Parcell's great choice in Rogers. Maybe, given time, he could have had the luxury of time to develop like McQ.

Rob worked hard and showed dedication. I would rather have have one of him then 10 Fabini's. Character is a rare commodity in professional sports these days. Rob has character. He may not be an all pro, but he will play somewhere. Parcell's scrrewed the pooch on this move!

Don't for a second believe that PittDawg had any influence on my take on Rob. Go spew your hatred somewhere else.You do realize that McQ in his rookie year is better than Petitti in his second year right? And you do realize that Fabini completely outplayed Petitti in preseason right?

[Iago33]

I was hoping he would develop into a solid player. We also invested a year in him, so I was hoping that would pay off down the line. I was pulling for Rob before I knew his dad posted here.

[fortdick]

You do realize that McQ in his rookie year is better than Petitti in his second year right? And you do realize that Fabini completely outplayed Petitti in preseason right?

No, I don't realize McQ is better. I did not see that in the games I watched. McQ got beat like a rookie. Rob played steady. Fabini may have come along, but he was not all that and a six pack. I would rather have kept the youngster and worried about the future uinstead of Parcell's wanting to win it all this year so he can quit and go hang out at the racetrack.

:mad:

[theogt]

No, I don't realize McQ is better. I did not see that in the games I watched. McQ got beat like a rookie. Rob played steady. Fabini may have come along, but he was not all that and a six pack. I would rather have kept the youngster and worried about the future uinstead of Parcell's wanting to win it all this year so he can quit and go hang out at the racetrack.

:mad:It's hard to judge because typically Petitti was playing against worse talent. By Bill's account though, McQ was ahead of Petitti in the depth chart.

As far as youth goes...we've got two young tackles with high potential. There's absolutely no need to talk about lack of youth at tackle.

[fortdick]

It's hard to judge because typically Petitti was playing against worse talent. By Bill's account though, McQ was ahead of Petitti in the depth chart.

As far as youth goes...we've got two young tackles with high potential. There's absolutely no need to talk about lack of youth at tackle.

:rolleyes:

[theogt]

:rolleyes::cool:

[jackrussell]

have one of him then 10 Fabini's

Sounds like an order in a New York deli.:)

[Big Dakota]

Big Dakota.....I was saying it WASN'T because he was our last great hope at RT.

Oh i see. Wasn't sure what you were trying to say. For me, i've seen a lot of good players come and go since i was 7 in 1970. IMHO it's ust part of pro sports. It's kinda tough for some who really develope a rooting interest.

[Iago33]

I think it's interesting that people are anointing McQuistan as much better than Pettiti already. As others have said, if forced into starting 16 games, McQ would probably struggle just as much as Pettiti did last year.

[EGG]

I agree with some of what was said,,, certainly Rob's Dad being a poster here made the cut more personal, but what really hurts is Pettiti represented a potential "hit" amongst a long, ugly list of "misses" with our offensive line. Excluding Flozell Adams, free agents and draftees alike have been a total disaster,,, even the few choices that are on the team now are disappointing underachievers, barely serviceable.

Pettiti's potential to become a rare, Cowboy OL success story is now gone and he officially gets added to a long and tedious list of Cowboy OL failures. Will it ever end!! :mad:

there, that's my bit-o-sunshine for the day! :cool:

[dallasfaniac]

The reason I am disappointed in the loss of Pettiti is because he is in his second season, started 16 games and has a higher chance of getting better. Fabini, meanwhile, can only get worse as he ages. How many of the older players we bring in play for a year and then are gone? Fabini won't be here next year, heck he may not be here come next Sunday.

[Chief]

Sounds like an order in a New York deli.:)

:laugh2:

Sounds like Parcells' order.

Give me 10 Fabinis with extra sauce, and hold the Pettiti.

[CowboysFaninDC]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.

pettiti is a nice kid who worked very hard. he will latch on to another team. he will never be great becuase he simply doesn't have the quick feet to be a good tackle. at some point in his career he may be moved to guard spot and he may florish there but he won't ever be a great talent. I bet the house on it.

with all due respect to his dad. life is harsh sometimes.

[DLCassidy]

I think most of us would have been disapointed in some way whether Rob's dad posted here or not. Rob had a compelling story- late round pick, loses a ton of weight, makes the team and ends up starting all 16 games. Then same kid works hard to improve his strength and we all had high hopes for him. That's why.

At the same time, BP knows he has to balance the needs of the present and the future. With Columbo and McQuistan showing promise, BP felt he could evaluate Petitti vs. Fabini as a "who can help me win this year" situation. IMO this was a close call and I think BP was truly undecided about this until the very end. Only time will tell whether it was the right call. As Cowboys fans 1st we have to hope he's right. That doesn't mean we don't wish Rob the best because he showed us he's a hard worker and a gamer.

[Paniolo22]

What a ridiculous thread. Whether or not his dad posts here or not is totally irrelevant. The reason most of us are disappointed is because when you invest 16 starts in someone, you expect improvment, especially in a young player. I'm disappointed that he couldn't translate his off season improvement into on the field improvement. I appreciate the insight that Pittdawg gave us, but such is life when you're son is making hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Ashwynn]

Petteti's cut is just business. Would you rather us carry him and have a weaker spot then we should. Fan favorites are tough. But bottom line is, he was not better then someone else that took his job. I dont likethe cut, I was pulling for Petteti, but I would not want the boys to be dragged down by his inconsisent play and subpar performances.

We are a better team without him,

Look at the cuts Parcells has made. From Ross to Henson, I cant argues with many of them, very few of them are still playing in the NFL now they dont have a star on, maybe that should tell you to trust Parcells. The ones that are playing are back ups, with the only exception being AB. Hes a solid player, nothing special, but he would be the one that got away, not Carter, Henson or Petteti. Dont lose sleep over the insignificant stuff, when Parcells starts cutting Ware, Roy, Tnew, Jones, Canty, Spears and Romo, then you can whine about it, but so long as Parcells is cutting dead weight and replacing it with more production (no matter how slight) hes doing his job.

[MrMom]

Holy ****, who expected such an uproar from such a fringe talent? He doesn't have the physical tools to be a player in this league.

It was obvious to any who watched his play last year and in this pre-season.

[jackrussell]

:laugh2:

Sounds like Parcells' order.

Give me 10 Fabinis with extra sauce, and hold the Pettiti.

Last year Parcells pigged out on the Fujitas.:)

[Zimmy Lives]

Last year Parcells pigged out on the Fujitas.:)

How did he serve up the Fujitas? DinnerWARE?

[Chuck 54]

I guess I'm the Big Bad Wolf because while I was rooting for him, I was glad to see him cut....It seemed painfully obvious to me that he can't pass protect very well, and I don't think he'll start for any team. The reason I like the cut is because it tells me that our personel on the OL has improved enough that the two guys who finished last season starting on our OL couldn't even make it as backups this year.

No disrespect to Pettitti or anyone who liked him personally, but to me that's a great thing.

[FLcowboy]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.

Thumper, I agree with you. I didn't know who Pittdawg was until late in the season. I wantged Petitti to stick because aI thought he did a great jub under the circumstances last year. He never missed a play even though he was injured part of the time. Yeah, he gave up some sacks. It's tough changing from left tackle to right tackle and then competing on the NFL level.

I'm convinced that the reason they kept Fabini was not because of his experience, but because of the signing bonus. I don't know what Petitti was scheduled to earn, but I'm sure it helped offset the signing bonus given to Fabini.

Here's hoping Rob catches on with another team real soon.

[tomson75]

I guess I'm the Big Bad Wolf because while I was rooting for him, I was glad to see him cut....It seemed painfully obvious to me that he can't pass protect very well, and I don't think he'll start for any team. The reason I like the cut is because it tells me that our personel on the OL has improved enough that the two guys who finished last season starting on our OL couldn't even make it as backups this year.

No disrespect to Pettitti or anyone who liked him personally, but to me that's a great thing.


Spot on.

[Yeagermeister]

Me personally I'm not upset as much as disappointed. I think Rob has a lot of upside. As a rookie he came in hurt had and had to switch positions and did an ok job. It had nothing to do with his father posting here.

[Trip]

If Petitti were looked at based on where he was drafted last season, and the improvement he has made since becoming pro and the dedication he showed in the offseason, he would have been kept.

Some lower round draft choices get the luxury of spending a season on the practice squad or the bottom of the depth chart, but Petitti had to start 16 games and the bar was immediately raised for him. He still has a chance to become a good player, as do many other lower round draft choices that have played one season in the NFL.

The expectations for him were too high. What happened to Parcells theory about players "getting it" in the third season? To draft a player where Petitti was selected and expect him to become a serviceable starter this soon is unrealistic.

And to give up on him this fast and keep Fabini over Petitti at this stage of his career is short sighted.

[neosapien23]

Nothing against Pettitti, but Parcells saw much more from McQuistan. Parcells would not have made this cut is he didn't think it was in the Cowboys best intrest. You guys keep forgetting that Pettitt gave up alot of sacks last year. How can you rag on Quincy Carter, Testerverde, Hambrick, Tucker, Hunter, etc....These guys played no worse than Pettitt and yet I don't hear anyone morning their loss. I was hoping Dallas would upgrade the tacke position in the offseason by drafting some Olinemen. They didn't draft anyone in the first or second, but McQuistan, Fabini, and Colombo have proven to be upgrades. Pettitt is a good worker and he gave his all, but I am a much bigger Cowboy fan than Pettitti fan. Dallas getting better is the important thing here.

[X-Dawg]

500 posts on this guy? Lets calm down - we cut an overmatched tweener not Herb Scott...

[Trip]

Nothing against Pettitti, but Parcells saw much more from McQuistan. Parcells would not have made this cut is he didn't think it was in the Cowboys best intrest. You guys keep forgetting that Pettitt gave up alot of sacks last year. How can you rag on Quincy Carter, Testerverde, Hambrick, Tucker, Hunter, etc....These guys played no worse than Pettitt and yet I don't hear anyone morning their loss. I was hoping Dallas would upgrade the tacke position in the offseason by drafting some Olinemen. They didn't draft anyone in the first or second, but McQuistan, Fabini, and Colombo have proven to be upgrades. Pettitt is a good worker and he gave his all, but I am a much bigger Cowboy fan than Pettitti fan. Dallas getting better is the important thing here.

I think the point some of us are making is that the Cowboys ARE NOT better in the long run with Fabini over Petitti. They're barely better in the short run, if at all.

[CoCo]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!

Nope.

I hate to lose him because we still have many more question marks than answers along our OL and Pettiti was a "potential" solution.

On top of that I would have really liked to get some compensation for him.

I think its cool that his dad posted here and that many were very respectful of his presence in the way we too would want to be treated. But that's not the reason cutting Rob bums me out.

[neosapien23]

I think the point some of us are making is that the Cowboys ARE NOT better in the long run with Fabini over Petitti. They're barely better in the short run, if at all.

I think Pettitt will could become a good starter in the future (maybe at guard). However, Fabini is a much better player than Pettitti. He can play both spots at a decent level. Pettitti cannot. Lets not get it twisted. If Parcells felt the way you felt, Fabini would have been cut. He has already proven that a SB does not make you safe (Boiman). Lets look back at this decision in a few years. Rember how mad people were when Dallas lost Ross, AB, and Hunter? Ross is done, Hunter is most likely working at Wal Mart, and AB was let go by a reciever hungry team. Pettitti is an unkown, Fabini is an established veteran.

[Trip]

I think Pettitt will could become a good starter in the future (maybe at guard). However, Fabini is a much better player than Pettitti. He can play both spots at a decent level. Pettitti cannot. Lets not get it twisted. If Parcells felt the way you felt, Fabini would have been cut. He has already proven that a SB does not make you safe (Boiman). Lets look back at this decision in a few years. Rember how mad people were when Dallas lost Ross, AB, and Hunter? Ross is done, Hunter is most likely working at Wal Mart, and AB was let go by a reciever hungry team. Pettitti is an unkown, Fabini is an established veteran.

If Fabini gets on the field for any extended period of time, I think you'll see he's not "much better" than Petitti. He's a little better, maybe, and he's at the end of his career and more of an injury risk.

[kTXe]

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[Boy's fan in Giant land]

If Petitti were looked at based on where he was drafted last season, and the improvement he has made since becoming pro and the dedication he showed in the offseason, he would have been kept.

Some lower round draft choices get the luxury of spending a season on the practice squad or the bottom of the depth chart, but Petitti had to start 16 games and the bar was immediately raised for him. He still has a chance to become a good player, as do many other lower round draft choices that have played one season in the NFL.

The expectations for him were too high. What happened to Parcells theory about players "getting it" in the third season? To draft a player where Petitti was selected and expect him to become a serviceable starter this soon is unrealistic.

And to give up on him this fast and keep Fabini over Petitti at this stage of his career is short sighted.

I agree with most of your assessement. Been a BP supporter since the get go, and while I don't think he's infallible, I DO think we have to trust his judgement on this. I, for one, hated to see Rob get cut - I was really pulling for the kid - but we have to look at the positive side of this. There is so much talent on our squad right now that this had to be one of those really tough decisions. I mean, the 1st 5 or 6 we're relatively easy, but after that, Jeez, they've all got great upside. Who the heck do we cut?

This is an indication of just how good we could be this year.

[Juljonesfan]

Its all about upgrading our team and 53.

When last years starters are replaced and we have more proven talent in Fabini and a better prospect in McQ you move on.

Columbo won the starting job straight up.

Lets move on.

[Hiero]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!
yes that is why. :lmao:

[silver]

it bother's me that we let a young talent walk while we keep an old player on the downside of his carreer. i had the same exact feeling when we let ron stone walk and kept nate newton for one more year. same story different year. at least nate had earned brownie points with the fans after winning 3 rings. what has fabini done for us. :insane:
fabini will be out of the league in one or two years and petitti will be the saints left tackle for a decade.

[kTXe]

fabini will be out of the league in one or two years and petitti will be the saints left tackle for a decade.
If so, they will have quite a few top 5 picks in the next 10 years.

Almighty, some of you have taken delusional to levels never before seen.

[theogt]

it bother's me that we let a young talent walk while we keep an old player on the downside of his carreer. i had the same exact feeling when we let ron stone walk and kept nate newton for one more year. same story different year. at least nate had earned brownie points with the fans after winning 3 rings. what has fabini done for us. :insane:
fabini will be out of the league in one or two years and petitti will be the saints left tackle for a decade.For the thousandth time: We have two young tackles (Colombo and McQ) so there is no reason to be upset about letting young "talent" go. Note the quotation marks because there are plenty that don't believe that Petitti has much potential as a starter in this league.

It's simply a value decision. A quality backup right now is more valuable than the third best young tackle on the team. If you just watch the games and watch Fabini play you'll notice that the guy is pretty darn good.

[bbgun]

Who says we're upset? The New Jersey guys?

[TwoDeep3]

I read alot here but post little.

I think the anchor poster is absolutely dead on about this.

I see this board and others rail upon players who fail.

Pettiti failed last year in a big way.

His father reads here and posts, thus he gets a pass.

That is not an indictment of this board. That is the way us fans are. We form a kinship with players and their glaring weaknesses are over looked.

There was a guy who was a quarterback that we tried making into a runningbac a few yearss ago. Woody somebody.

He didn't have it, but fans demanded that we were not giving him a solid try.

We converted him to DB and he still showed he lacked what it took.

When he was cut, the clamouring was intense about that being a mistake. It wasnot.

Pettiti may end up having a nice career as a back-up somewhere. But his rookie season showed he did not have the sped nor footwork to play tackle.

They moved on. As they should have.

[Hiero]

fans all the time develop bonds with certain players. I think a lot of us saw Petitti as a good backup and a guy who hada future on the team because of the experience he had last year. it happens all the time with players, and rob is the only one who has had his dad post here, so what kind of lame conspiracy do we have for all those other players?

[REDVOLUTION]

I am not gonna bad mouth Pettitti... he was a Cowboy so I was pulling for him.... it was difficult to watch him watch as defenders blew by him uncontested many times... I HOPE he turns into a great OLman...

[TwoDeep3]

His nuts would have been toasted by mid season had his father not posted here.

He gave up more sacks than "Holding #75" Phil Pozderac.

The only thing that saved Pozderac from being proclaimed as Satan was no internet for fans to huddle around and converse.

Fans latch onto the underdogs. Beriault was another that caused people to pause when he was cut. The next Bill Bates. Even the Frenchman wrote an article about it, tear in eye.

There is no conspiracy theory here.

Just the fact that were Pettiti's dad not part of this board, his name would have been Ryan Leaf by mid season.

[2233boys]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!
You hit the nail on the head as to why folks are upset about the cut.

As an aside, it doesn't bother me one bit. He wasn't even an average OT last year, he was down right terrible. Ultimatly Pettitti didn't preform up to the same level as Colombo, McQuiston or Fabini and was cut.

[trueblue1687]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.

You're joking right?? he had HORRIBLE footwork and leverage. He lost so much weight last year (obese in senoir bowl) that he was weaker than tuesdays dishwater. In fairness to him, he should not have been thrown into a starting role, but obviously it was a have to case unless you wanted to pay the has-been Ross Verba 5 times what he was worth.

[Dale]

His nuts would have been toasted by mid season had his father not posted here.

He gave up more sacks than "Holding #75" Phil Pozderac.

The only thing that saved Pozderac from being proclaimed as Satan was no internet for fans to huddle around and converse.

Fans latch onto the underdogs. Beriault was another that caused people to pause when he was cut. The next Bill Bates. Even the Frenchman wrote an article about it, tear in eye.

There is no conspiracy theory here.

Just the fact that were Pettiti's dad not part of this board, his name would have been Ryan Leaf by mid season.

I agree in some ways.

Rob was an easy guy to root for. That's the bottom line.

He had the "Jersey" ties to Parcells that made Parcells' public comments about him fun to read. Being a seventh round pick turned starter also made him easy to root for. Plus, the dedication he showed by losing all that weight made him a good story. Not to mention his father posting. As you said, it was as if we all instantly "knew" Rob just because of his father's presence here.

Hell, lest we forget he was filling in at a MAJOR hole and we all desperately wanted him to be the guy after the Jacob Rogers fiasco.

And, frankly, after that Rogers fiasco it was nice to have a tough guy come in seemingly willing to do anything.

As for him being so bad, I don't know that I agree there. He wasn't great, but being a seventh rounder you knew there'd be some struggles. I seem to recall a stretch where he did really well, though he did hit that rookie wall and began to struggle for the rest of the year. But there were times that people were asking if we got a major steal in that guy early on.

[Bob Sacamano]

Who says we're upset? The New Jersey guys?

:laugh1:

even though I hate most things you say, you're good for a line or 2 ;)

[WoodysGirl]

I read alot here but post little.

I think the anchor poster is absolutely dead on about this.

I see this board and others rail upon players who fail.

Pettiti failed last year in a big way.

His father reads here and posts, thus he gets a pass. I have to disagree. Because you aren't here on a daily basis, you don't see it. But based on quite a few threads and posts, I have to disagree that he's gotten a pass on this board. And I'm sure if I wanted to, I could dig for all the threads and posts lamabasting Petitti.

Some may feel that the mods may be overly zealous in their attempts to maintain a level of respect for someone whom we considered an "insider." But I'm sure you understand that being an admin on a board who has it's own "insider." Because based on my few observations of that board, when criticism is reaped upon that "insider," I see some of the staff come out of the woodwork. So it's really not just a Zone thing.


That is not an indictment of this board. That is the way us fans are. We form a kinship with players and their glaring weaknesses are over looked.

There was a guy who was a quarterback that we tried making into a runningbac a few yearss ago. Woody somebody.

He didn't have it, but fans demanded that we were not giving him a solid try.

We converted him to DB and he still showed he lacked what it took.

When he was cut, the clamouring was intense about that being a mistake. It wasnot.

Pettiti may end up having a nice career as a back-up somewhere. But his rookie season showed he did not have the sped nor footwork to play tackle.

They moved on. As they should have.This part I do agree with however. We, as fans, all get attached to various players. My username is a testament to that. So while some may feel the need to defend Petitti due to his Pops posting here, I'm sure there are quite a few others who genuinely rooted for him to succeed in Dallas. Simply because his success would only help Dallas. As it is, he's not. As I say to all former players cut by Dallas, "Good luck to him."

[bbgun]

:laugh1:

even though I hate most things you say, you're good for a line or 2 ;)

Backhanded compliment of the day. I'll take what I can get.

[Juke99]

A nickel says that if Pettitti wasn't forced into the starting line up because there were no viable options at the tackle position last year, he'd still be on the team and he'd develop into a solid guy for years.

Many of you might not have had the pleasure of watching Fabini play for the Jets.

I live in NY.

I'd rather see Pettitti.

[InmanRoshi]

Personally, I haven't been this distraught since the release of Javier Collins.

[junk]

Personally, I haven't been this distraught since the release of Javier Collins.

:laugh2:

[FLCowboyFan]

I just want to make sure that I point out that I didn't take any swipes at the guy. I simply stated my opinion that I believed that his dad posting here made (at least me) 'us' bond with the guy. I don't think he was awlful or anything like that. I would have loved to see him stay with the team and become one heck of a great player. This cut has been harder for me because I felt like I knew the player more than the others based on postings on here. I am a reader that has been around for a long time (on the old board as well) and I just don't post as often as many others. But I'm on here everyday reading all of the opinions of you guys. I didn't mean to cause such a negative response!

[TwoDeep3]

I have to disagree. Because you aren't here on a daily basis, you don't see it. "

I read here as much, if not more than the board I admin for. I know the content of the threads here and the prevalent thinking.

I'm sorry to disagree, but were it not for his dad, his on-field play would have been his undoing here.

This isn't about boards. It's about the choice made by his father - if that really was his father - to post here.

Thus he becomes a fan favorite, because of a connection.

And humans have issues with being real about people they are conncted with who are in the limelight.

That isn't slinging mud.

As Ray Charles would say, "It is what it is, baby."

Rob is a semi-talented player who will remain on the fringe of this league. He will make a living, and if her watches his money, and parlays his fifteen minutes of fame into an after sports gig, he will do well.

But this is not a "Rudy" story because the hero of this tale doesn't pack the gear.

I see no difference betwen Pettiti and any other player cut by this team. I can only deal with the ones on the roster.
That is why I am a fan of the team.

Seinfeld was right. It is about laundry.

And more to the point, when Emmitt became a Cardinal, he was the enemy to me.

I celebrate him now that he is retired. But Roy Dub popping him in that game was our guys whipping their guys.

So Pettiti is a footnote in a Cowboy trivia book and no more to me.

Therefore I see little reason to celebrate his departure with anything but, "Oh well."

[rw54]

I would have liked to see Rob get his full three years before we made a decision on his ability. I think this could be Parcells doing for Payton what Jimmy did for Dave when he traded him Barry Minter and Vinson Smith for John Roper. Saints are second in line on waiver claims.

[TwoDeep3]

As a well known alcohol fan once stated in another parallel universe.......

Where are the tears for Torrin Tucker?

It simply is the brush with fame that causes the genuflecting around here.

[2233boys]

Riddle me this....


We're all Cowboys fans, right?....I mean, you're not as much of a fan as I am, but we all root for the team first and foremost, no?

Okay....then why would any Cowboys fan want to see a player we just released, in an area where our roster needs players, do well with another team?

Wouldn't that mean you are hoping the Cowboys made a personnel mistake and have retarded their success in the process?

Wouldn't you hope that Cowboys made the right decision and this move will benefit, not hurt, the team?

What's the priority here? Is it about the Cowboys or individual players?


Personally, I never bashed Petitti last year. I gave him the free pass he deserved considering his circumstance. I also gave him a chance this pre-season. Had we kept him around, I'd have hoped he would develop into something serviceable down the road.

Because, in that circumstance, he was a Cowboy.

But now that he's no longer with us, not only do I hope he never plays another game in the National Football League, but I also wouldn't be against him getting Lyme Disease.

I can't fathom any Cowboys fan feeling differently.

Yet I see an alleged Cowboys fan forum, three times the size of this one, collectively crossing their fingers that the Cowboys made a personnel mistake.

Cowboys fans....wishing the Cowboys harm.

Somebody splain that to me.

From an anonymous poster at a nationally recognized site.

I got to say this guy knows what he is talking about...:bow:

[Double Trouble]

From an anonymous poster at a nationally recognized site.

I got to say this guy knows what he is talking about...:bow:This dude really knows what it's all about.

[wileedog]

A nickel says that if Pettitti wasn't forced into the starting line up because there were no viable options at the tackle position last year, he'd still be on the team and he'd develop into a solid guy for years.

Many of you might not have had the pleasure of watching Fabini play for the Jets.

I live in NY.

I'd rather see Pettitti.

No, but I had the pleasure of watching Rob give up the most sacks in the league last year.

I understand all the reasons why, but I also understand that despite the offseason work he was still letting 3rd teamers get to Romo the other night.

I like Rob and his work ethic and I wish him well, and even moreso respect Pittdawg for exposing himself to the savage criticism that the anonymous internet brings, but bottom line I didn't see or hear anything in this preseason that clearly pointed to Rob improving from last year, other than his conditioning.

I gather that is what Bill was thinking when he pushed for his release.

Fabini isn't bound for Hawaii, but what he has done in this league to date is probably a pipe dream for what Rob will ever do.

If we were a 5-11 still rebuilding team maybe you hold on to ROb and pray for further development. BUt as a team which just signed TO in an obvious "do it now" push, you have to keep the proven vet.

I will say I agree whoeheartedly with the OP, for better or worse. If Rob's dad had never posted here Pettitti would be just as villfied as Tucker. I don't see how anyone can deny that.

[K-DOGG]

Petitte sucks and that is why he got cut! If he had gotten any better, the Boys would have kept him as a long term project. McQuistian is just a better option and has yet to be totally used and abused like Petitte was in 16 games last season. Now with Petitte and Torrin Tucker off this roster, the Boys coaches and management will sleep better at night!:star:

[Seven]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.

Saved me some typing. Thanks!

[dallasfan31]

i am not at all nothing great glad he gone.

[theogt]

i am not at all nothing great glad he gone.:(:(:(

[SuspectCorner]

:(:(:(
whew... i thought it was just me.:huh:

[InmanRoshi]

I think Pettiti would still be here if he just showed some sign improvement. Yes, he was thrown to the wolves way too early. Still, he showed no sign of improvement as the season went on. If anything he got worse. Significantly worse. The final game of the season against Leonard Little was maybe one of the worst displays of offensive line play I've seen in a long time, and that's saying something for this franchise lately. Then he comes into camp this year with a lot of momentum behind him after a strong offseason. He was Mister July. People are drinking the Kool Aid by the pitcher. The Cowboys gave him every opportunity to claim the starting RT spot. He started off camp working with the 1st string unit at that position. Four weeks later he's worked himself down to 3rd string left tackle, and he's getting beaten badly by Minnesota's scrubs.

A key part of being a developmental project is showing some development. The biggest jump in player's development should be between his first and second year. A developmental player's arrow shouldn't be pointed down in his second training camp. Stagnant maybe, but not down. That's showing that maybe you just don't have that much to work with. Maybe if you're Robert Gallery you get the benefit of the doubt, but guys drafted with the 209th pick need to show something. If Jay Ratliff would have had a stinker camp, he probably would have found himself on the outs too. Its just business.

[Qwickdraw]

I'm glad he got cut.

[Trip]

A nickel says that if Pettitti wasn't forced into the starting line up because there were no viable options at the tackle position last year, he'd still be on the team and he'd develop into a solid guy for years.

Many of you might not have had the pleasure of watching Fabini play for the Jets.

I live in NY.

I'd rather see Pettitti.

I saw Fabini quite a bit in NY as well, and a little this preseason and I didn't see much difference between the two.

I'm glad there's a few of you that see the same thing, I was starting to wonder if I missed something with this guy (not really).

65% (maybe more) of this board is in for a major disappointment if Fabini has to start 16 games.

I'm a Cowboys fan, I'll root for Fabini every play he's in, but my expectations for him won't be much more than they were for a lower 6th round rookie starting last year.

"He won't give up 10 sacks playing backwards."

Maybe he's real good playing backwards but playing frontwards he ain't worth a flip anymore.

[InmanRoshi]

In 8 years in the league Fabini has never allowed double digit sacks. He also has never committed double digit penalties in a season.

Petitti did BOTH in the same year.

[marsbennett]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.
This whole topic is an embarassment. Which Cowboy highlight gave you the feeling he would be great? This whole crying over this cut is the nuttiest and most childish behavior I've witnessed. Petitti's performance as starting tackle is the absolute worst in recent memory....hell, I can't think of anyone and I'm a Cowboy's fan since 1974. And mean streak? You kidding me? How's this highlight film of a mean/nasty/well balanced/footworking/leverage machine?

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In case you don't recall, this is where Fabini's superior was pleading for ****ing help.


I can't believe some of the crap I'm reading. Get over it.

[marsbennett]

Did you wake up today thinking."How can I be an a****** today? Rob did everything the organization asked of him. He started 16 games for us last year, played through injuries, etc. No one said he was starter calibur last year, but he gave his best. He didn't get much help during the second half of the season because Tucker needed everyone to help him get out of the way of DE's. All this to cover for Parcell's great choice in Rogers. Maybe, given time, he could have had the luxury of time to develop like McQ.

Rob worked hard and showed dedication. I would rather have have one of him then 10 Fabini's. Character is a rare commodity in professional sports these days. Rob has character. He may not be an all pro, but he will play somewhere. Parcell's scrrewed the pooch on this move!

Don't for a second believe that PittDawg had any influence on my take on Rob. Go spew your hatred somewhere else.
You are the empitome of football genius.

[conner01]

for me it's more about the respect he earned last year. he was not a nfl ot but got threw into the fire and fought hard. he did'nt have forst round talent or anything but he did his best to compete and i respect that. has nothing to do with his dad as i've never conversed with him.but i will say mcq shows much more potential to me

[Hostile]

I have to disagree. Because you aren't here on a daily basis, you don't see it. But based on quite a few threads and posts, I have to disagree that he's gotten a pass on this board. And I'm sure if I wanted to, I could dig for all the threads and posts lamabasting Petitti.

Some may feel that the mods may be overly zealous in their attempts to maintain a level of respect for someone whom we considered an "insider." But I'm sure you understand that being an admin on a board who has it's own "insider." Because based on my few observations of that board, when criticism is reaped upon that "insider," I see some of the staff come out of the woodwork. So it's really not just a Zone thing.Isn't that the truth? Posters here apparently aren't allowed to dislike him or where his inside info is posted.

We get accused of having a quick trigger, yet other boards ban people for a lot less. Post a dig here, get banned there.

[marsbennett]

In 8 years in the league Fabini has never allowed double digit sacks. He also has never committed double digit penalties in a season.

Petitti did BOTH in the same year.

Watch it! You'll be confusing the masses with facts and reality, in fact, forcing people to use their heads instead of their 'I think I know an inside guy's daddy' infantile man-love mentality.

Frankly, I've never seen any reaction so uninformed in my entire life. Next, some maroon will call for BP to resign over the Petitti decision.