RECAP: JJT on Norm

[InmanRoshi]

Vandy has a proven record, but is anyone at the Ranch privately concerned?
The question would be better asked who thinks this isn’t a big deal. They all think its between his ears. There are grave concerns. They hope he isn’t just going through this because of the field goal he missed against Pittsburg. I’m no Steve Hoffman, but there is something to the effect that he is missing wide right. His kicks seem to flutter with no power behind them.

Will TO start?
I don’t think anyone knows. If he goes through a week of practice and completes them there is a good chance he will.

If Bledsoe gets hurt, who would the Cowboys call on to be a 3rd QB?
Parcells alluded to someone yesterday. Todd Archer and I have tried to narrow it down. We don’t think its Quincy. For now we don’t know, but we’re working on it.

See if the name Jay Fiedler comes up at all.
I think he has some shoulder problems and couldn’t even throw the ball in camp in Tampa so I crossed him off my list, but I’ll check on it for you.

Does it surprise you that Drew Henson hasn’t caught on with anyone?
Not really. I think he will eventually. Right now teams have their rosters set and are familiar with the guys they have. And where is the recent tape on him? People around the league wonder why he got released. I like the guy, but he didn’t play well in practice. He had some moments and flashes, but he didn’t play well.

When camp began, the #1 goal was to improve the OL. Has it improved any?
I don’t think you can say that right now. I still think they were where they were when they showed up. The question is, should you have gotten a tackle in the second round instead of a tight end when you already got Witten? Instead of rolling the dice on guys like Fabini and Colombo? Colombo has done some good things, but when Parcells talks about Colombo he says he’s a tough competitor and he fights you. Now compare that to McQuinstan .. he goes on and on about his ability. In other words, you can only expect so much from Colombo.

Is there any worry about Kosier?
They believe he’ll be an adequate player. But they are under no illusions that he's going to be the next Larry Allen.

Was letting LA go a mistake?
It is, in that they didn’t get a guy better than him. Even in his reduced state, Larry is still better than Kosier. Now, Kosier can some things that Larry can’t do like blocking in space and blocking down to the 2nd level.

[jay cee]

I've never considered myself to be a chicken little type of fan, but I am really worried about the O-line, and the kicker.

[CATCH17]

We don’t think its Quincy. For now we don’t know, but we’re working on it.

I think it will be Vinny, Tommie Maddox, and heres a wild card Ray Lucas.

[theogt]

Why do people take Parcells's words so literally and only use those words on their evaluations of players?

Watch the tape on Colombo from this preseason. The guy looked like a quality RT.

[EMMITTnROY]

Was letting LA go a mistake?
It is, in that they didn’t get a guy better than him. Even in his reduced state, Larry is still better than Kosier. Now, Kosier can some things that Larry can’t do like blocking in space and blocking down to the 2nd level.
still think that LA and Glover would have helped us this year.. those two guys being released were the only bummers to an incredible offseason.. i know, i know, LA is old and slow and Glover is too small for the 3-4, and cap space and contracts and bla bla.. but what are our two biggest concerns? O-Line and a backup NT.. hmmm.. LA is better than Kosier and Glover is just a wee bit better, Im guessing, than Jvonne Parker.. both will probably make the Pro Bowl this year with other teams.. and we still have cap room..

look don't get me wrong, i absolutely loved our offseason and think we are prime for a run, but i think these two guys would have helped us.. not only that, but i liked these guys a lot and i'd like to see LA win another one with the Boys and i'd like to so Glover win his first..

[InmanRoshi]

The OL will be improved, likely greatly improved, over last year because we ended the season with the worst set of offensive tackles in the NFL in Pettiti and Tucker. I wouldn't accuse you of hyperbole if you said it might be the worst tackle tandem in recent NFL memory. Those two couldn't even make an NFL team this year (unless you consider the Saints an NFL team). Now, will it be Superbowl caliber? That's another story. But to say its no better than last year's group is rather ridiculous. It looked vastly improved throughout the preseason by both naked eye obeservation and breaking it down play by play.

And I can't wait to meet this offensive tackle we bypassed in the second round who was going to step right in to the starting position at RT and excell for the next 10 years. I've heard so much about him.

[superpunk]

Wouldn't it be something if Quincy came back. lol...

Didn;t Parcells say a developmental prospect, tho?

[Doomsday101]

Wouldn't it be something if Quincy came back. lol...

Didn;t Parcells say a developmental prospect, tho?

Just what we need. 1 hot head in TO and 1 pot head in Carter. :lmao:

[speedkilz88]

The OL will be improved, likely greatly improved, over last year because we ended the season with the worst set of offensive tackles in the NFL in Pettiti and Tucker. I wouldn't accuse you of hyperbole if you said it might be the worst tackle tandem in recent NFL memory. Those two couldn't even make an NFL team this year (unless you consider the Saints an NFL team). Now, will it be Superbowl caliber? That's another story. But to say its no better than last year's group is rather ridiculous. It looked vastly improved throughout the preseason by both naked eye obeservation and breaking it down play by play.

And I can't wait to meet this offensive tackle we bypassed in the second round who was going to step right in to the starting position at RT and excell for the next 10 years. I've heard so much about him.And run blocking looks to be their problem, and that has more to do with scheme and execution than it does brute power. It hasn't helped that teams like Minnesota used 9 man fronts in the preseason when TO wasn't in there.

[Idgit]

Is there any worry about Kosier?
They believe he’ll be an adequate player. But they are under no illusions that he's going to be the next Larry Allen.

Was letting LA go a mistake?
It is, in that they didn’t get a guy better than him. Even in his reduced state, Larry is still better than Kosier. Now, Kosier can some things that Larry can’t do like blocking in space and blocking down to the 2nd level.

Oh, just blocking in space and getting to the second level. Is that all?

[stasheroo]

The OL will be improved, likely greatly improved, over last year because we ended the season with the worst set of offensive tackles in the NFL in Pettiti and Tucker. I wouldn't accuse you of hyperbole if you said it might be the worst tackle tandem in recent NFL memory. Those two couldn't even make an NFL team this year (unless you consider the Saints an NFL team). Now, will it be Superbowl caliber? That's another story. But to say its no better than last year's group is rather ridiculous. It looked vastly improved throughout the preseason by both naked eye obeservation and breaking it down play by play.


This team was a contender last season with a merely average offensive line. This line can at the very least be that.

This line gave up what? - 3 sacks the entire preseason? And that was without their starting LT for a vast majority of the time!

And people can sure talk about vanilla schemes and they'd be right, but the same can be said for Dallas' underwhelming running game. I think there are more athletic, trap-and-pull plays in the playbook not used yet.

And I think Allen is gone because he was a round peg in a square hole - he no longer fit what the Cowboys now want to do.

The offensive line will now be able to pull and screen to both sides of the field given the athleticism of Kosier and Rivera which will keep defenses honest.

[dmq]

The OL will be improved, likely greatly improved, over last year because we ended the season with the worst set of offensive tackles in the NFL in Pettiti and Tucker. I wouldn't accuse you of hyperbole if you said it might be the worst tackle tandem in recent NFL memory. Those two couldn't even make an NFL team this year (unless you consider the Saints an NFL team). Now, will it be Superbowl caliber? That's another story. But to say its no better than last year's group is rather ridiculous. It looked vastly improved throughout the preseason by both naked eye obeservation and breaking it down play by play.

And I can't wait to meet this offensive tackle we bypassed in the second round who was going to step right in to the starting position at RT and excell for the next 10 years. I've heard so much about him.

I agree. This line is way ahead of where we were last year during the year. It must count for something that Pettiti was much stronger this summer and not injured, but still fell to third on the depth chart at RT. I certainly don't wan't McQ starting this year, but it sounds like he will be a heck of alot better than Tucker was as Flo's backup. Gurode or Johnson should 2006 should be better than Johnson- Gurode of 2005. Kosier is still a bit of an unknown, but it seems like he fits in much better in our scheme than LA. We are gonna sweep alot this year. LA just couldn't do that.

[ZeroClub]

JJT's observation about Parcells' praise for Columbo is interesting. And makes sense too. Parcells doesn't go on and on about Columbo's ability ....

[AdamJT13]

Not that preseason means much, but we allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL during the preseason despite attempting the eighth-most passes. If our line was going to be a sieve like it was for the final 10 games last season, you'd think it would have shown up at some point already. Our opponents weren't playing any more vanilla on defense than anyone else's opponents.

[stasheroo]

And again - that was without our starting left tackle for a large portion of preseason!

[InmanRoshi]

JJT's observation about Parcells' praise for Columbo is interesting. And makes sense too. Parcells doesn't go on and on about Columbo's ability ....

Its true that Colombo probably doesn't have a lot of athletic ability, but the strength and toughness part shouldn't be dismissed so quickly by JJT. There are a lot of good RT's in the league in that mold. Jon Runyan is a classic example, as was Big E after his injury.

[Zimmy Lives]

Its true that Colombo probably doesn't have a lot of athletic ability, but the strength and toughness part shouldn't be dismissed so quickly by JJT. There are a lot of good RT's in the league in that mold. Jon Runyan is a classic example, as was Big E after his injury.

Tui wasn't exactly a decathlete either. He was just a tough SOB.

[Maikeru-sama]

I think the name on Parcells' emergency red phone if Bledsoe were to go down would be Vinny Testeverde.

I think Carter has been out of football too long.

- Mike G.

[dmq]

Columbo has been looking better as preseason has gone along. No reason to believe that trend won't continue.

[Clove]

Just what we need. 1 hot head in TO and 1 pot head in Carter. :lmao::bow:

[Deep_Freeze]

I agree. This line is way ahead of where we were last year during the year. It must count for something that Pettiti was much stronger this summer and not injured, but still fell to third on the depth chart at RT. I certainly don't wan't McQ starting this year, but it sounds like he will be a heck of alot better than Tucker was as Flo's backup. Gurode or Johnson should 2006 should be better than Johnson- Gurode of 2005. Kosier is still a bit of an unknown, but it seems like he fits in much better in our scheme than LA. We are gonna sweep alot this year. LA just couldn't do that.

Yeah, Pettiti allowed the most sacks in the league last year, and Tucker was right behind him in second. Not hard to improve upon being that bad, lol.

I believe we have improved, but our opposition has also improved their teams. To really be better, we need a pretty big jump just to keep up with others. If we have made that big jump is the question before us, and we will only know that after a few games.

[fanfromvirginia]

Not that preseason means much, but we allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL during the preseason despite attempting the eighth-most passes. If our line was going to be a sieve like it was for the final 10 games last season, you'd think it would have shown up at some point already. Our opponents weren't playing any more vanilla on defense than anyone else's opponents.
Yeah, I think that the pass blocking will be much better. If so, then the worst-case scenario becomes one in which we do a lot of setting up the run via the pass rather than the opposite. It doesn't have to be great to be better than last year and with our D, we're not reliant on a world-class offense.

[WilmingtonHeel]

I noticed the comments about our former QB. Just didn't do it in practice for all the agendas people played about his release it's right there laid out in front of some who doubted this

[CowboysFaninDC]

the only comment that didn't make sense is getting a tackle instead of a TE in the second. if you are planning on going to the 2 TE formation excluesively then you need to reliable TEs to make it work. otherwise its all for naught and you better stay conventional.

[stasheroo]

Does it seem as if Parcells is a lot happier with the Cowboys' running game than many of us fans are?

I'm wondering if there's something he knows in this regard that us fans don't.

Something about the preseason schemes or playcalling perhaps?

[peplaw06]

JJT's observation about Parcells' praise for Columbo is interesting. And makes sense too. Parcells doesn't go on and on about Columbo's ability ....

Well Colombo was a first round talent when he was drafted. McQ was a 7th rounder. You expect the talent to be there with a 1st rounder. May be the reason for not so much praise. I think the fact our starting RT for 16 games from last year was cut for Colombo and Fabini means we are more talented at that position.

[kartr]

Just what we need. 1 hot head in TO and 1 pot head in Carter. :lmao:

Quincy = playoff qb, Bledsoe = weakest link in Buffalo, that's why he's here.
That's so funny, it hurts,especially around playoff time.

[kartr]

I think the name on Parcells' emergency red phone if Bledsoe were to go down would be Vinny Testeverde.

I think Carter has been out of football too long.

- Mike G.

I disagree Mick, Vinny's body can't take the pounding anymore. Carter has only missed one year of football in the last 8 years and with 4 years of NFL football, it wouldn't take him nearly as long to develop as a Henson type. In two months tops, he would be ready to start if necessary,plus he already knows our system.

[Hiero]

I kinda wish we had gotten an OT in the 2nd too, but I think Trueblood and McNeil were taken befoer our pick

[Doomsday101]

Quincy = playoff qb, Bledsoe = weakest link in Buffalo, that's why he's here.
That's so funny, it hurts,especially around playoff time.

Get off his jock for once in your life. NO ONE IN THE NFL wants Carter your the only one who is constantly going on and on about how great he is, the guy played like crud and lead Dallas no wheres he was on a team that went to the playoffs but we sure as heck did not make it with his play we made it in spite of the fact that he constantly threw more ints and TD passes. You can have him no one else NFL or CFL wants anything to do with that idiot. Go get clue!!!

[kartr]

Does it seem as if Parcells is a lot happier with the Cowboys' running game than many of us fans are?

I'm wondering if there's something he knows in this regard that us fans don't.

Something about the preseason schemes or playcalling perhaps?

He's happier because the line is better potentially and Jones and Barber have 1 more year of experience.

[Hiero]

Quincy = playoff qb, Bledsoe = weakest link in Buffalo, that's why he's here.
That's so funny, it hurts,especially around playoff time.
ya because we all know how well the Bills franchise is being run. I'd love to have Losman as the starter. :rolleyes: they are likely to get the #1 pick that franchise is being run into the ground

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I think the name on Parcells' emergency red phone if Bledsoe were to go down would be Vinny Testeverde.

I think Carter has been out of football too long.

- Mike G.

You don't consider the 20 passes he threw in CFL training camp to be worth anything ;)

[ZeroClub]

I'm excited that Parcells is excited about McQuistan.

It is nice to have something more than carefully worded guarded optimism that a particular player won't be a liability.

[tyke1doe]

Isn't it a little too late worrying about Vandershank?

It's not like we didn't know about his propensity to miss kicks in tight ball games, despite his "legendary" accuracy.

[tyke1doe]

I'm excited that Parcells is excited about McQuistan.

It is nice to have something more than carefully worded guarded optimism that a particular player won't be a liability.

As a matter of curiosity, did Parcells have glowing words about Pettiti last year?

[baj1dallas]

JJT's observation about Parcells' praise for Columbo is interesting. And makes sense too. Parcells doesn't go on and on about Columbo's ability ....


Parcells doesn't go on and on about any of his starters.

[ZeroClub]

As a matter of curiosity, did Parcells have glowing words about Pettiti last year?Not so much. There were compliments about tenacity and lack of mental mistakes - but nothing on the order of what McQuistan got this year.

[Waffle]

Isn't it a little too late worrying about Vandershank?

It's not like we didn't know about his propensity to miss kicks in tight ball games, despite his "legendary" accuracy.

Too bad the hash marks in the NFL aren't painted wide like they are in college ball. All we'd have to do is make a play to the far left side and that should be enough for Vandy to shank it right through the uprights.

[starfrombirth]

Oh, just blocking in space and getting to the second level. Is that all?
:laugh2:

[FLcowboy]

still think that LA and Glover would have helped us this year.. those two guys being released were the only bummers to an incredible offseason.. i know, i know, LA is old and slow and Glover is too small for the 3-4, and cap space and contracts and bla bla.. but what are our two biggest concerns? O-Line and a backup NT.. hmmm.. LA is better than Kosier and Glover is just a wee bit better, Im guessing, than Jvonne Parker.. both will probably make the Pro Bowl this year with other teams.. and we still have cap room..

look don't get me wrong, i absolutely loved our offseason and think we are prime for a run, but i think these two guys would have helped us.. not only that, but i liked these guys a lot and i'd like to see LA win another one with the Boys and i'd like to so Glover win his first..

You haven't taken into consideration the salaries Larry Allen and LeRoi Glover were to earn this year. Given the expectations of each, and the possibility of signing a big FA for big bucks, cap room needed to be created before the FA period began.

Playing General Manager is fun, but you have to represent both the owner and the coach, not just the coach.

[Doomsday101]

You haven't taken into consideration the salaries Larry Allen and LeRoi Glover were to earn this year. Given the expectations of each, and the possibility of signing a big FA for big bucks, cap room needed to be created before the FA period began.

Playing General Manager is fun, but you have to represent both the owner and the coach, not just the coach.

I agree. In the meantime Dallas was able to get guys like RW,Witten and Romo signed to extentions does Dallas do that if we are forced to payout over 8 million for Allen? I like Larry and loved watching him in Dallas for all these years but it was time for Dallas to be smart with the salary cap something we were not very wise about in the past.

[5Stars]

I noticed the comments about our former QB. Just didn't do it in practice for all the agendas people played about his release it's right there laid out in front of some who doubted this

Can anyone translate this to me...I'm serious...I have no freaking clue what this poster is saying! :huh:

:star:

[Maikeru-sama]

I disagree Mick, Vinny's body can't take the pounding anymore. Carter has only missed one year of football in the last 8 years and with 4 years of NFL football, it wouldn't take him nearly as long to develop as a Henson type. In two months tops, he would be ready to start if necessary,plus he already knows our system.

Well, I think Bill Parcells would really have to think about Quincy's mental state if he were to give him a ring.

I just think he would audible to Testeverde before Carter, not because he is better, but because they have more history and he knows what he is going to get with Vinny (which isnt that much).

But no question Quincy would be a nice addition, if he was still in football, had his head straight and available.

- Mike G.

[dbair1967]

Quincy = playoff qb, Bledsoe = weakest link in Buffalo, that's why he's here.
That's so funny, it hurts,especially around playoff time.

you know whats even more funny? That 32 teams still dont want that POS Carter on their team...hell now even all the teams in Canada dont want that loser after he got run from there too...

isnt it WAY past time to quit with the dead horse beating?

David

[EveryoneElse]

Quincy = playoff qb, Bledsoe = weakest link in Buffalo, .


Pretty sad that Quincy is a playoff QB that should be in his prime right now, yet is out of the NFL and can' get a job. :rolleyes:

Playoff QB....pfffft.

[CrazyCowboy]

I believe T.O. will start.......he is our franchise

[TruBlueCowboy]

If Bledsoe gets hurt, who would the Cowboys call on to be a 3rd QB?
Parcells alluded to someone yesterday. Todd Archer and I have tried to narrow it down. We don’t think its Quincy. For now we don’t know, but we’re working on it.


An ex-Miami quarterback who some say is already receiving social security would be my guess. ;)

[TruBlueCowboy]

Wouldn't it be something if Quincy came back. lol...

Didn;t Parcells say a developmental prospect, tho?

Wouldn't that be Baker then?

[5Stars]

I believe T.O. will start.......he is our franchise

No...T.O. is part of a team...he needs the Cowboys just as much as they need him...he's not the franchise.

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[silver]

I think it will be Vinny, Tommie Maddox, and heres a wild card Ray Lucas.
I think it's the kid at practice squad. no way we bring vinny back.

[silver]

i doubt quincy would pass the prerequesite drug test.

[percyhoward]

Not that preseason means much, but we allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL during the preseason despite attempting the eighth-most passes. If our line was going to be a sieve like it was for the final 10 games last season, you'd think it would have shown up at some point already. Our opponents weren't playing any more vanilla on defense than anyone else's opponents.
We gave up an average of less than a sack per game against defenses that averaged more than 2 sacks per game against their other opponents.

But...I don't think either Seattle or Minny was playing all their starters on the line.

[AdamJT13]

We gave up an average of less than a sack per game against defenses that averaged more than 2 sacks per game against their other opponents.

But...I don't think either Seattle or Minny was playing all their starters on the line.

Minnesota played all four of its starters. Seattle played two of its four starters. But that wouldn't have made much of a difference -- Seattle's starters were in for only 12 pass plays. And lots of other teams sat out starters for parts of the preseason, too.

[junk]

Well, I think Bill Parcells would really have to think about Quincy's mental state if he were to give him a ring.

I just think he would audible to Testeverde before Carter, not because he is better, but because they have more history and he knows what he is going to get with Vinny (which isnt that much).

But no question Quincy would be a nice addition, if he was still in football, had his head straight and available.

- Mike G.

Quincy and Vinny basically put up identical numbers in Dallas.

I'd take the geezer. At least he seems to be mentally stable.

Still haven't figured where this Quincy has talent line of thought is coming from.

[Fernando Fernandez]

i doubt quincy would pass the prerequesite drug test.
some would say carp has passed the test several times already.

[percyhoward]

Minnesota played all four of its starters.
I'll take your word for it cuz I'm sure you're right. I was going by the fact that neither Udeze or E. Williams had a stat. With so many tackles being made in our backfield, I figured they'd have at least one.

[big dog cowboy]

Was letting LA go a mistake?
It is, in that they didn’t get a guy better than him. Even in his reduced state, Larry is still better than Kosier. Now, Kosier can some things that Larry can’t do like blocking in space and blocking down to the 2nd level.
Some people just can't acept that we turned the page for a reason.

[Smith22]

I'll take your word for it cuz I'm sure you're right. I was going by the fact that neither Udeze or E. Williams had a stat. With so many tackles being made in our backfield, I figured they'd have at least one.

Udeze is the one who hit Bledoe's arm on the INT I believe.

[Maikeru-sama]

Quincy and Vinny basically put up identical numbers in Dallas.

I'd take the geezer. At least he seems to be mentally stable.

Still haven't figured where this Quincy has talent line of thought is coming from.

Yeah..im pretty sure you just repeated what I said. Oh as far as "Quincy has talent line of thought", if that is directed at me, yeah, I think the guy did have a little ability and probably could have been a pretty good back up or maybe even a starter in a limited role in this league if he head had been screwed on straight.

That's me though.

- Mike G.

[Heisenberg]

i doubt quincy would pass the prerequesite drug test.

He wouldn't. Friend of mine works for the security company that works for the Las Colinas area which is where QC's house is. Just the other night they were called out to QC's place and he was sitting naked in his convertable Mercedes. When they attempted to talk to him, he became irate and started throwing things. Then went back into his house and started throwing things there as well. He doesn't sound very well right now.

[Doomsday101]

He wouldn't. Friend of mine works for the security company that works for the Las Colinas area which is where QC's house is. Just the other night they were called out to QC's place and he was sitting naked in his convertable Mercedes. When they attempted to talk to him, he became irate and started throwing things. Then went back into his house and started throwing things there as well. He doesn't sound very well right now.

Let me guess he missed the target he was throwing at and it reminded people duck hunting season is right around the corner. :lmao2:

[Deep_Freeze]

He wouldn't. Friend of mine works for the security company that works for the Las Colinas area which is where QC's house is. Just the other night they were called out to QC's place and he was sitting naked in his convertable Mercedes. When they attempted to talk to him, he became irate and started throwing things. Then went back into his house and started throwing things there as well. He doesn't sound very well right now.

Sounds like he is really going through some issues right now, hopefully we can all understand and have a little sympathy for the man that did his best to help us while he was here. Don't kick a man while he is down. He sounds real unhappy with himself right now, I hope he can find some peace and happiness in his life.

[5Stars]

He sounds real unhappy with himself right now, I hope he can find some peace and happiness in his life.

Sitting in his car naked makes him unhappy now? :eek: OK?

I think QC even went as far as saying that if he did some interviews that he wanted to be naked in front of the female reporters or he would not be interviewed!

Yeah, that's unhappy now...:rolleyes:


It's freaking nuts! Like way crazy...not unhappy!

:star:

[Deep_Freeze]

Sitting in his car naked makes him unhappy now? :eek: OK?

I think QC even went as far as saying that if he did some interviews that he wanted to be naked in front of the female reporters or he would not be interviewed!

Yeah, that's unhappy now...:rolleyes:


It's freaking nuts! Like way crazy...not unhappy!

:star:

Don't be so quick to call people crazy. There is a huge stigma with mental illnesses, and people just call them nuts or crazy. It is an illness like any other illness. He seems to need help, and I hope he isn't too stubborn to seek assistance.

[5Stars]

Don't be so quick to call people crazy. There is a huge stigma with mental illnesses, and people just call them nuts or crazy. It is an illness like any other illness. He seems to need help, and I hope he isn't too stubborn to seek assistance.

You are so right, however...is it mental illness?

I understand the difference between mental illness and dope addicts...one does cause the other, yet, the only one that can change is the mental person...if he wants too! Apparently Crankcase does not want any help...

The retarted child that does not know any better I can understand and have sympathy for...a drug user that know his problem is drugs...nope!

And, the only reason I brought this thread to the top was for my good buddie, kartr...we be friends....puff, puff, puff...

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[Deep_Freeze]

You are so right, however...is it mental illness?

I understand the difference between mental illness and dope addicts...one does cause the other, yet, the only one that can change is the mental person...if he wants too! Apparently Crankcase does not want any help...

The retarted child that does not know any better I can understand and have sympathy for...a drug user that know his problem is drugs...nope!

And, the only reason I brought this thread to the top was for my good buddie, kartr...we be friends....puff, puff, puff...

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Cool, like you say, addiction is alot different than mental illness. Alot of people don't use drugs cause they like them, it maybe part of the addiction loving the high feeling or they maybe unsatisfied with a portion of their life, so they use whatever drug to hide from their problems.

This is why I brought this issue up with Q. You know it is killing the guy to not be in the league, and that is an added problem that he has had since he left. I mean, he was probably on something while here, so it is nothing new, but he probably feels his life is going downhill. He had issues before, now they are even worse.

Now, mental illness is hard to determine unless you are around them alot. I brought it up cause of his situation, it might be an issue right now, maybe depression, who knows. Only the people close to him would know if he is bipolar or whatever else.

As with anything though, that person has to make the choice, and I was just hoping Q will get help whether his issue is just addiction, or a deeper mental illness.

[5Stars]

Cool, like you say, addiction is alot different than mental illness. Alot of people don't use drugs cause they like them, it maybe part of the addiction loving the high feeling or they maybe unsatisfied with a portion of their life, so they use whatever drug to hide from their problems.

This is why I brought this issue up with Q. You know it is killing the guy to not be in the league, and that is an added problem that he has had since he left. I mean, he was probably on something while here, so it is nothing new, but he probably feels his life is going downhill. He had issues before, now they are even worse.

Now, mental illness is hard to determine unless you are around them alot. I brought it up cause of his situation, it might be an issue right now, maybe depression, who knows. Only the people close to him would know if he is bipolar or whatever else.

As with anything though, that person has to make the choice, and I was just hoping Q will get help whether his issue is just addiction, or a deeper mental illness.

He will...it might take time...life is tough, and causes issues that are hard to deal with, but, learning right from worng is the first step for anyone....it just takes faith and it will work it self out...one way or the other.

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Admitting you have a problem is the first step- and he refuses to take that step. So nuts to him. Don't waste time feeling sorry for him- he has made his choices and that is the reason he is where he is.