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Drew Henson era begins in Dallas

By Randy Galloway
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

Unable to resist the cheap-thrill temptation of an I-told-you-so ... See there. Running back is never ever a No. 1 priority, even when an NFL team obviously needs one.

Don't believe me, as millions, seemingly trillions, didn't.

But you will, of course, believe Big Bill, right?

And certainly, you do trust in Big Bill, right?

I repeat:

It is always about the quarterback.

Why is that so difficult to comprehend for so many, particularly around here?

But based on the Valley Ranch version of the NFL Draft over the weekend, put this in Jimster-size, 3-inch headlines:

The Drew Henson Era Has Officially Begun.

The arrival date is 2005.

But, at some point this season, Henson will begin warming up for his '05 headline act by taking over at quarterback.

Everything about this off-season, starting with the surprise arrival of Henson, has pointed the Cowboys toward a two-year plan.

Count me among the multitudes who didn't see that coming in January. But facts are facts.

Despite what Parcells said at the end of last season's 10-6 miracle, he has NOT flung himself into an exhaustive frenzy aimed at improving his team immediately.

If anything, Parcells is admitting the obvious. That 10-6 record was more about smoke-and-mirrors magic than it was establishing a firm foundation for next-season success.

And get this:

Jerry Jones, once a win-now fanatic, has become a reassuring voice of reason for Big Bill, urging him on in the build-it-slow, build-it-right philosophy.

Actually, the foundation season for the Parcells' regime will be this season, not last season.

Free agency should have told us that. The Cowboys have been so conservative, even the Bush-Cheney campaign looks liberal in comparison. "I held us back a little bit," Parcells said Saturday, talking about the docile approach to free agency. "It was the economics," he said, referring to a market that went bonkers.

Bill drew a laugh when he mentioned that in discussing free agency economics with Jones, saying "I didn't have to talk too hard."

Jerry, of course, has already had to endure life in self-inflicted salary cap hell. He's not eager to return.

But as the Cowboys mainly watched the free agency parade go by, they quickly changed course when it came to the pursuit of Henson.

Parcells and Jones drum-majored that parade.

They marched on Houston, the team holding the rights to Henson, worked out that trade, then, along with Stephen Jones, tripled-teamed Henson and his agent.

When it came to establishing a quarterback of the future, the Cowboys identified Henson as their man, then were aggressive in getting a complicated transaction done.

A bit of irony about Henson also surfaced Saturday, when Parcells and Jones surprised the rest of the NFL by trading out of the first round, despite having their pick of the entire running back class.

Buffalo made a trade offer that could not be refused, particularly by the Cowboys. A first-round draft pick in 2005 fits well for a team making the '05 season its focal point.

But the Bills were willing to do the deal because they wanted a quarterback of the future. J.P. Losman of Tulane was him, hence the desire to move up to No. 22 in the first round.

Remember, however, that Buffalo had been a major player in the Henson sweepstakes, and was regarded at one time as the team that would not be outbid for his services.

Reportedly, the Henson camp, which could have refused any trade Houston made, made it known privately that Henson wanted to sign with the Cowboys. That took the Bills out of the bidding, and also prompted their desire to land Losman, touching off the Saturday deal.

Without even having taken a snap, Henson has already made an impact at Valley Ranch.

Actually, the Cowboys also followed a 2005 script in making their critical first-day draft decisions.

Running back Julius Jones, taken with the first pick in the second round, is about immediate impact. If not, the Cowboys will be flogged for that choice. But when the other second-rounder, and the third-rounder, were both offensive linemen, that speaks to a future foundation, and addresses a most critical area for upgrade.

Whatever it takes to put the pieces in place for the Drew Henson Era, the Cowboys have done, and are doing, in this off-season.

And, of course, Henson is also an extended version of the new draft class, even if Parcells wasn't admitting it Saturday.

Saying "this is a talent acquisition business," Big Bill placed Henson as merely a player involved in that off-season process.

In truth, however, Henson now must be considered the centerpiece of all new acquisitions.

Which is the way it should be.

It's always about the quarterback.

New Cowboys

Dallas drafted five players Sunday and traded a seventh-round pick to Tampa Bay for NFL a third-year player.

Fourth round


Bruce Thornton, CB Georgia

Fifth round


Sean Ryan, TE Boston College

Seventh round


Nathan Jones, CB Rutgers
Patrick Crayton, WR NW Oklahoma St.
Jacques Reeves, CB Purdue

Trade


Darian Barnes, FB Hampton


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Randy Galloway's Galloway & Co. can be heard weekdays 3-6 p.m. on ESPN/103.3 FM. rgalloway@star-telegra.com





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© 2004 Star Telegram and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.dfw.com

[Woods]

Well, this is about 2005.

BP is getting the OL set, the TEs set, the FBs set, the type of WRs he wants, and hopefully he's hit on the RB.

Depending on how well J Jones plays, and how well Hunter and the DTs/DEs (i.e., Blade and Wiley) hold up, I'd guess that's the final piece of the puzzle in 2005.

[RatisBeast]

Pretty cool article. I have high hopes for Henson, as much of us do. Wow, so if it wasn't for henson we wouldn't have next year's first rounder ? :D WE can just consider Henson our first and Jones and Rogers our 2nd's :D

[Juke99]

OK...this is the first perspective that I have read that makes this weekend's performance more palatable....especially because I am a huge Henson supporter.

It also appears that Parcells is in it for the long haul, removing any fears that we'd mortgage the future for success today, which would add to his legend....and also give Jerry the quick confirmation he often requires about his football genius. And hats off to their brass, you know whats, because if these moves don't work out, the franchise is going to be a cellar dwellar for a long time.

Now that I've chilled a bit, what this all comes down to is the perspective on S Jackson. If he turns out to be a very good back and our selection in next years draft from Buffalo isn't a great one...the deal was a bust.

If Jackson turns out to be very good and our draft position next year is very good, AND we take a very good player at a need position, then it's an even swap.

But if Jackson turns out to be what some of us think he could...and Jones doesn't cut it, then it was a bust of a deal.

I suppose the most important thing is that it's a statement about the philosophy that's being employed. That said, it would be nice if Jerry sticks to a plan for more than one season. I guess we're going to see.

As I've said before, the most important thing about this draft is that Clayton was picked at 15, giving me some vindication for selecting him in our mock draft here. :D

[da_boyz_mk]

I say that wr might be a need next year with KJ and TG getting up there in age. i guess it all depends on how bryant performs this year.

[wileedog]

If Jackson turns out to be very good and our draft position next year is very good, AND we take a very good player at a need position, then it's an even swap.

But if Jackson turns out to be what some of us think he could...and Jones doesn't cut it, then it was a bust of a deal.

:D

I think there's more to it in evaluating the deal.

First off, we're going to have a hard time evaluating Jackson for a couple of years as he will be playing behind Faulk, and Martz has forgotten what the word "handoff" means anyway.

Second, I think its more about J.Jones performance than about Jacksons. Whatever your opinion on Jones, I think its safe to assume he's an upgrade - and probably a significant one - to T-Ham. He doesn't need to be Emmitt Jr., just starting quality. And with better line play this year he'll have his chance to be that.

If Jones comes in and fills that void, than I think the trade is a good one, no matter where we get Buffalo's pick. Plus trades are about playing the odds, and on the surface it looks to me that even in this "anything can happen" league Buffalo probably won't win a lot of games this year.

Lastly, we have heard from several sources now that BP wasn't going to select Jackson anyway, that K. Jones was his top pick (which is actually surprising to me, I didn't think he was Bill's kind of runner). I personally don't think K. Jones was great value at #22, and it doesn't sound like Bill did either. Even if the Buffalo trade offer didn't come in, I don't think we would have picked a RB with that pick.

The key though is Julius Jones. If he can carry the ball 20-25 times a game and keep a YPC of around 4, than I personally think this deal is worth it whatever Jackson (or K. Jones) turns out to be. IMO the odds of J.Jones doing that are much greater than the odds of Steven Jackson turning into LaDainian Tomlinson, and that's what draft trades are about - playing the odds.

[chicago JK]

Isn't it interesting that the Bills decided against pursuing Drew Henson this year because the price was too high. Instead they gave up a future 1 for a qb that probably has more questions than Henson. I like Donahoe but I seriously question this move.

[Hollywood Henderson]

Now the plan becomes clear for most of us...
I thought it was good all along, we need to finish our Oline first & foremost, although J.Jones was the first pick...

Its not sexy but VERY smart.

Lehr, Dino, Walters are not starters, although Dino could at C, he is no G...
So now we have depth & quality...WE got bigger & better and thats what we needed on the Oline!

Hopefully Johnson can be the guy at C and everything else will fall into place...

Still not sure whats up with Allen, but at least not were not held back by him limping off the field again...

I doubt the Bills make it to 500 ball this year so we will be well placed to get some real weapons next year and in FA too!

[Mr Cowboy]

If Galloway is accurate in his observations, then the obvious next move is to draft Mike Williams if there is a supplemental draft.

Keyshawn and Glenn are getting up there in age, and will not likely be a part of the "championship teams" that Parcells is building.

I am not to high on Williams, but it would make sense to draft him and start preparing him for the 2005 run...

[DanteEXT]

If Galloway is accurate in his observations, then the obvious next move is to draft Mike Williams if there is a supplemental draft.

Keyshawn and Glenn are getting up there in age, and will not likely be a part of the "championship teams" that Parcells is building.

I am not to high on Williams, but it would make sense to draft him and start preparing him for the 2005 run...

The addittion of Glenn last year and Wiley and Johnson this year does not tell me this team is saying "screw winning today, we'll win tomorrow!" at all. That's why I'm skeptical Henson plays this year if Bill feels like QC, Hutch, Romo or any other QB that MAY be added give us a better chance to win now.

[dallen]

The addittion of Glenn last year and Wiley and Johnson this year does not tell me this team is saying "screw winning today, we'll win tomorrow!" at all. That's why I'm skeptical Henson plays this year if Bill feels like QC, Hutch, Romo or any other QB that MAY be added give us a better chance to win now.


We're building for the future while trying to win today. Just look at NE the past few years if you want to know what BP and JJ are thinking.

[LoneStar22]

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Drew Henson era begins in Dallas

By Randy Galloway
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

Unable to resist the cheap-thrill temptation of an I-told-you-so ... See there. Running back is never ever a No. 1 priority, even when an NFL team obviously needs one.

Don't believe me, as millions, seemingly trillions, didn't.

But you will, of course, believe Big Bill, right?

And certainly, you do trust in Big Bill, right?

I repeat:

It is always about the quarterback.

Why is that so difficult to comprehend for so many, particularly around here?

But based on the Valley Ranch version of the NFL Draft over the weekend, put this in Jimster-size, 3-inch headlines:

The Drew Henson Era Has Officially Begun.

The arrival date is 2005.

But, at some point this season, Henson will begin warming up for his '05 headline act by taking over at quarterback.

Everything about this off-season, starting with the surprise arrival of Henson, has pointed the Cowboys toward a two-year plan.

Count me among the multitudes who didn't see that coming in January. But facts are facts.

Despite what Parcells said at the end of last season's 10-6 miracle, he has NOT flung himself into an exhaustive frenzy aimed at improving his team immediately.

If anything, Parcells is admitting the obvious. That 10-6 record was more about smoke-and-mirrors magic than it was establishing a firm foundation for next-season success.

And get this:

Jerry Jones, once a win-now fanatic, has become a reassuring voice of reason for Big Bill, urging him on in the build-it-slow, build-it-right philosophy.

Actually, the foundation season for the Parcells' regime will be this season, not last season.

Free agency should have told us that. The Cowboys have been so conservative, even the Bush-Cheney campaign looks liberal in comparison. "I held us back a little bit," Parcells said Saturday, talking about the docile approach to free agency. "It was the economics," he said, referring to a market that went bonkers.

Bill drew a laugh when he mentioned that in discussing free agency economics with Jones, saying "I didn't have to talk too hard."

Jerry, of course, has already had to endure life in self-inflicted salary cap hell. He's not eager to return.

But as the Cowboys mainly watched the free agency parade go by, they quickly changed course when it came to the pursuit of Henson.

Parcells and Jones drum-majored that parade.

They marched on Houston, the team holding the rights to Henson, worked out that trade, then, along with Stephen Jones, tripled-teamed Henson and his agent.

When it came to establishing a quarterback of the future, the Cowboys identified Henson as their man, then were aggressive in getting a complicated transaction done.

A bit of irony about Henson also surfaced Saturday, when Parcells and Jones surprised the rest of the NFL by trading out of the first round, despite having their pick of the entire running back class.

Buffalo made a trade offer that could not be refused, particularly by the Cowboys. A first-round draft pick in 2005 fits well for a team making the '05 season its focal point.

But the Bills were willing to do the deal because they wanted a quarterback of the future. J.P. Losman of Tulane was him, hence the desire to move up to No. 22 in the first round.

Remember, however, that Buffalo had been a major player in the Henson sweepstakes, and was regarded at one time as the team that would not be outbid for his services.

Reportedly, the Henson camp, which could have refused any trade Houston made, made it known privately that Henson wanted to sign with the Cowboys. That took the Bills out of the bidding, and also prompted their desire to land Losman, touching off the Saturday deal.

Without even having taken a snap, Henson has already made an impact at Valley Ranch.

Actually, the Cowboys also followed a 2005 script in making their critical first-day draft decisions.

Running back Julius Jones, taken with the first pick in the second round, is about immediate impact. If not, the Cowboys will be flogged for that choice. But when the other second-rounder, and the third-rounder, were both offensive linemen, that speaks to a future foundation, and addresses a most critical area for upgrade.

Whatever it takes to put the pieces in place for the Drew Henson Era, the Cowboys have done, and are doing, in this off-season.

And, of course, Henson is also an extended version of the new draft class, even if Parcells wasn't admitting it Saturday.

Saying "this is a talent acquisition business," Big Bill placed Henson as merely a player involved in that off-season process.

In truth, however, Henson now must be considered the centerpiece of all new acquisitions.

Which is the way it should be.

It's always about the quarterback.

New Cowboys

Dallas drafted five players Sunday and traded a seventh-round pick to Tampa Bay for NFL a third-year player.

Fourth round


Bruce Thornton, CB Georgia

Fifth round


Sean Ryan, TE Boston College

Seventh round


Nathan Jones, CB Rutgers
Patrick Crayton, WR NW Oklahoma St.
Jacques Reeves, CB Purdue

Trade


Darian Barnes, FB Hampton


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Randy Galloway's Galloway & Co. can be heard weekdays 3-6 p.m. on ESPN/103.3 FM. rgalloway@star-telegra.com





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© 2004 Star Telegram and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.dfw.com


IMO Randy Galloway is wierdo freak and an idiot, I can't stand to listen to him, I turn the radio off when he is on. Not a bone of reality in his crainium.

[RCowboyFan]

Isn't it interesting that the Bills decided against pursuing Drew Henson this year because the price was too high. Instead they gave up a future 1 for a qb that probably has more questions than Henson. I like Donahoe but I seriously question this move.


If you read the article, its not Bills who pulled out of the trade for Henson. Its that Henson wanted to come to Dallas that made them back off. I think its pretty much Henson's decision also that made other teams interested in him backing off.

I think Rams were highly interested in trading for Henson. Henson interest in Dallas is the thing that turned the tide on Dallas favor completely, from what I read.

[wileedog]

If you read the article, its not Bills who pulled out of the trade for Henson. Its that Henson wanted to come to Dallas that made them back off. I think its pretty much Henson's decision also that made other teams interested in him backing off.

I think Rams were highly interested in trading for Henson. Henson interest in Dallas is the thing that turned the tide on Dallas favor completely, from what I read.


I've read the same, and FWIW Henson did a similar thing in baseball with the Yankees. He flat out told the league that if he couldn't play for NY, he would go play football.

Turns out he couldn't play baseball in NY - or anywhere else for that matter - but the point is Henson has shown he is definately picky about what uniform he puts on.

[LaTunaNostra]

The addittion of Glenn last year and Wiley and Johnson this year does not tell me this team is saying "screw winning today, we'll win tomorrow!" at all. That's why I'm skeptical Henson plays this year if Bill feels like QC, Hutch, Romo or any other QB that MAY be added give us a better chance to win now.

Yes. I think Galloway (who, amusingly, stopped sniping at Tuna once Henson was brought in), is correct about a two year plan.

But Parcells won't sacrifice anything for some vision of the future. How many time last year did he exhort his team to try to take advantage of its fortunate crcumstances? How many times say "you can be a much better team in the future, and never get back to this chance we have now?" How many times make a "seize the moment" speech?

So those dismayed with the apparent putting off a SB run, take heart.

What you've got is the best of both worlds with Tuna. Assiduous planning for the future, and an expedient nature that lets no chance fly by. Hence the bringing in of Wiley and Key to ensure a good vet-youngster mix.

Parcells will take advantage of EVERY opportunity that represents itself this year. And will do his darndest to win every game. He knows no other way.

[MikeD17]

Ok and what if Dallas goes 11-5 this year , goes to the NFC Champions Game and QC puts up Pro bowl type numbers, does henson still start in 2005?

Just Say it happens ....

[Charles]

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Drew Henson era begins in Dallas

By Randy Galloway
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

Unable to resist the cheap-thrill temptation of an I-told-you-so ... See there. Running back is never ever a No. 1 priority, even when an NFL team obviously needs one.

Don't believe me, as millions, seemingly trillions, didn't.

But you will, of course, believe Big Bill, right?

And certainly, you do trust in Big Bill, right?

I repeat:

It is always about the quarterback.

Why is that so difficult to comprehend for so many, particularly around here?

But based on the Valley Ranch version of the NFL Draft over the weekend, put this in Jimster-size, 3-inch headlines:

The Drew Henson Era Has Officially Begun.

The arrival date is 2005.

But, at some point this season, Henson will begin warming up for his '05 headline act by taking over at quarterback.

Everything about this off-season, starting with the surprise arrival of Henson, has pointed the Cowboys toward a two-year plan.

Count me among the multitudes who didn't see that coming in January. But facts are facts.

Despite what Parcells said at the end of last season's 10-6 miracle, he has NOT flung himself into an exhaustive frenzy aimed at improving his team immediately.

If anything, Parcells is admitting the obvious. That 10-6 record was more about smoke-and-mirrors magic than it was establishing a firm foundation for next-season success.

And get this:

Jerry Jones, once a win-now fanatic, has become a reassuring voice of reason for Big Bill, urging him on in the build-it-slow, build-it-right philosophy.

Actually, the foundation season for the Parcells' regime will be this season, not last season.

Free agency should have told us that. The Cowboys have been so conservative, even the Bush-Cheney campaign looks liberal in comparison. "I held us back a little bit," Parcells said Saturday, talking about the docile approach to free agency. "It was the economics," he said, referring to a market that went bonkers.

Bill drew a laugh when he mentioned that in discussing free agency economics with Jones, saying "I didn't have to talk too hard."

Jerry, of course, has already had to endure life in self-inflicted salary cap hell. He's not eager to return.

But as the Cowboys mainly watched the free agency parade go by, they quickly changed course when it came to the pursuit of Henson.

Parcells and Jones drum-majored that parade.

They marched on Houston, the team holding the rights to Henson, worked out that trade, then, along with Stephen Jones, tripled-teamed Henson and his agent.

When it came to establishing a quarterback of the future, the Cowboys identified Henson as their man, then were aggressive in getting a complicated transaction done.

A bit of irony about Henson also surfaced Saturday, when Parcells and Jones surprised the rest of the NFL by trading out of the first round, despite having their pick of the entire running back class.

Buffalo made a trade offer that could not be refused, particularly by the Cowboys. A first-round draft pick in 2005 fits well for a team making the '05 season its focal point.

But the Bills were willing to do the deal because they wanted a quarterback of the future. J.P. Losman of Tulane was him, hence the desire to move up to No. 22 in the first round.

Remember, however, that Buffalo had been a major player in the Henson sweepstakes, and was regarded at one time as the team that would not be outbid for his services.

Reportedly, the Henson camp, which could have refused any trade Houston made, made it known privately that Henson wanted to sign with the Cowboys. That took the Bills out of the bidding, and also prompted their desire to land Losman, touching off the Saturday deal.

Without even having taken a snap, Henson has already made an impact at Valley Ranch.

Actually, the Cowboys also followed a 2005 script in making their critical first-day draft decisions.

Running back Julius Jones, taken with the first pick in the second round, is about immediate impact. If not, the Cowboys will be flogged for that choice. But when the other second-rounder, and the third-rounder, were both offensive linemen, that speaks to a future foundation, and addresses a most critical area for upgrade.

Whatever it takes to put the pieces in place for the Drew Henson Era, the Cowboys have done, and are doing, in this off-season.

And, of course, Henson is also an extended version of the new draft class, even if Parcells wasn't admitting it Saturday.

Saying "this is a talent acquisition business," Big Bill placed Henson as merely a player involved in that off-season process.

In truth, however, Henson now must be considered the centerpiece of all new acquisitions.

Which is the way it should be.

It's always about the quarterback.

New Cowboys

Dallas drafted five players Sunday and traded a seventh-round pick to Tampa Bay for NFL a third-year player.

Fourth round


Bruce Thornton, CB Georgia

Fifth round


Sean Ryan, TE Boston College

Seventh round


Nathan Jones, CB Rutgers
Patrick Crayton, WR NW Oklahoma St.
Jacques Reeves, CB Purdue

Trade


Darian Barnes, FB Hampton


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Randy Galloway's Galloway & Co. can be heard weekdays 3-6 p.m. on ESPN/103.3 FM. rgalloway@star-telegra.com





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© 2004 Star Telegram and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.dfw.com

When did Henson prove he could play in the NFL?

Would Parcells build a team around a player that hasn't even proven he can play effectivley,through injury etc.

This artilce is a perfect example of person or fan interpretating what is done or not done, said or not said to suite their opinion. It not surprising that many posters would whole heartedly agree. We are the same fans who bashed Carter for mentioning his desire to play or be given the same learning curve that Troy or Favre got, but quickly design Jpegs with Henson side by side Troy and Staubach before he even takes a meaningful snap.

Randy Galloway has made a living writing these kind of columns. They sell papers. The reasoning isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

[LaTunaNostra]

Ok and what if Dallas goes 11-5 this year , goes to the NFC Champions Game and QC puts up Pro bowl type numbers, does henson still start in 2005?

Just Say it happens ....

Geez, Mike, who knows?

Parcells has ALWAYS practiced loyalty to the players who produced for him.

Pro Bowl numbers and Championship Game are major production. My guess would be if Q accomplished all that, Henson would sit another year, and if Q produced to anything like that level in the next year, Henson would be traded.

We see decisions made in favor of "franchise" QBs, like the one in Cincy to replace Kitna with Palmer next year. But Kitna had a good year statistically, and an 8-8 season. He didn't have an exceptional year, which is what you are hypothesizing for Q.

Henson, however, was acquired because the belief is Q CANNOT produce to that level. I hope he proves otherwise, but am sure not willing to bet on it.

[Cowgal]

Ok and what if Dallas goes 11-5 this year , goes to the NFC Champions Game and QC puts up Pro bowl type numbers, does henson still start in 2005?

Just Say it happens ....


IF QC does that, then he earns the right to keep playing. Especially if it is obvious the Q is making things happen and is not just driving the bus. Trust me, as a die-hard fan, I'd love to see that happen. (Of course, in your scenario, it sounds like we lose the NFC Championshio Game :( ) But I honestly don't think QC has it in him to be more than average.

[TheHustler]

OK...this is the first perspective that I have read that makes this weekend's performance more palatable....especially because I am a huge Henson supporter.

It also appears that Parcells is in it for the long haul, removing any fears that we'd mortgage the future for success today, which would add to his legend....and also give Jerry the quick confirmation he often requires about his football genius. And hats off to their brass, you know whats, because if these moves don't work out, the franchise is going to be a cellar dwellar for a long time.

Now that I've chilled a bit, what this all comes down to is the perspective on S Jackson. If he turns out to be a very good back and our selection in next years draft from Buffalo isn't a great one...the deal was a bust.

If Jackson turns out to be very good and our draft position next year is very good, AND we take a very good player at a need position, then it's an even swap.

But if Jackson turns out to be what some of us think he could...and Jones doesn't cut it, then it was a bust of a deal.

I suppose the most important thing is that it's a statement about the philosophy that's being employed. That said, it would be nice if Jerry sticks to a plan for more than one season. I guess we're going to see.

As I've said before, the most important thing about this draft is that Clayton was picked at 15, giving me some vindication for selecting him in our mock draft here. :D

not true. K Jones was higher on the Dallas draft board that S Jackson, if we were to take a back, it would have been KJ, Dallas wanted no part of Jackson.

[NoDak Cowboy]

OK...this is the first perspective that I have read that makes this weekend's performance more palatable....especially because I am a huge Henson supporter.

It also appears that Parcells is in it for the long haul, removing any fears that we'd mortgage the future for success today, which would add to his legend....and also give Jerry the quick confirmation he often requires about his football genius. And hats off to their brass, you know whats, because if these moves don't work out, the franchise is going to be a cellar dwellar for a long time.

Now that I've chilled a bit, what this all comes down to is the perspective on S Jackson. If he turns out to be a very good back and our selection in next years draft from Buffalo isn't a great one...the deal was a bust.

If Jackson turns out to be very good and our draft position next year is very good, AND we take a very good player at a need position, then it's an even swap.

But if Jackson turns out to be what some of us think he could...and Jones doesn't cut it, then it was a bust of a deal.

I suppose the most important thing is that it's a statement about the philosophy that's being employed. That said, it would be nice if Jerry sticks to a plan for more than one season. I guess we're going to see.

As I've said before, the most important thing about this draft is that Clayton was picked at 15, giving me some vindication for selecting him in our mock draft here. :D
*In my best James Earl Jones/Darth Vader voice*

Juke Skywalker........come to the dark side, and together we'll rule the galaxy.....

;)

[Mavs Man]

It seems funny to me that Randy Galloway liked Saturday's draft-day trade, considering how he reacted initially to the Hershel Walker trade.

[Sarge]

I say that wr might be a need next year with KJ and TG getting up there in age. i guess it all depends on how bryant performs this year.

I think no matter how AB plays this year - WR is a position of need next year given the age of KJ and TG.

[NoDak Cowboy]

I think no matter how AB plays this year - WR is a position of need next year given the age of KJ and TG.
I agree, Sarge. AB may or may not turn out to be the stud we hoped for when drafted. I'm still leaning towards him turining out well.

But KJ and TG only have 2-3 years left, tops in my opinion. Next year we need to get their repacement in and get him ready.

[Mike 1967]

OK...this is the first perspective that I have read that makes this weekend's performance more palatable....especially because I am a huge Henson supporter.

It also appears that Parcells is in it for the long haul, removing any fears that we'd mortgage the future for success today, which would add to his legend....and also give Jerry the quick confirmation he often requires about his football genius. And hats off to their brass, you know whats, because if these moves don't work out, the franchise is going to be a cellar dwellar for a long time.

Now that I've chilled a bit, what this all comes down to is the perspective on S Jackson. If he turns out to be a very good back and our selection in next years draft from Buffalo isn't a great one...the deal was a bust.

If Jackson turns out to be very good and our draft position next year is very good, AND we take a very good player at a need position, then it's an even swap.

But if Jackson turns out to be what some of us think he could...and Jones doesn't cut it, then it was a bust of a deal.

I suppose the most important thing is that it's a statement about the philosophy that's being employed. That said, it would be nice if Jerry sticks to a plan for more than one season. I guess we're going to see.

As I've said before, the most important thing about this draft is that Clayton was picked at 15, giving me some vindication for selecting him in our mock draft here. :D

You forgot to throw in a very important variable.....Julius Jones. If JJ turns into a very good back this year...and we get a very good pick next year....then this was a steal.

[Sarge]

I agree, Sarge. AB may or may not turn out to be the stud we hoped for when drafted. I'm still leaning towards him turining out well.

But KJ and TG only have 2-3 years left, tops in my opinion. Next year we need to get their repacement in and get him ready.

I'm a big AB fan as well and was very disappointed in his play last year.

Yep - either way - we are looking to upgrade at WR next yr.

[Mike 1967]

When did Henson prove he could play in the NFL?

Would Parcells build a team around a player that hasn't even proven he can play effectivley,through injury etc.

This artilce is a perfect example of person or fan interpretating what is done or not done, said or not said to suite their opinion. It not surprising that many posters would whole heartedly agree. We are the same fans who bashed Carter for mentioning his desire to play or be given the same learning curve that Troy or Favre got, but quickly design Jpegs with Henson side by side Troy and Staubach before he even takes a meaningful snap.

Randy Galloway has made a living writing these kind of columns. They sell papers. The reasoning isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Based on your handle....I'm not surprised by your response. :rolleyes:

You are refusing to see the obvious.

[Mike 1967]

Ok and what if Dallas goes 11-5 this year , goes to the NFC Champions Game and QC puts up Pro bowl type numbers, does henson still start in 2005?

Just Say it happens ....

If Quincy is the reason behind this...then he is the starter.

Problem is...Quincy has never shown any level of consistency. He is the offensive player of the week one week....and the following 4 weeks he is making bad decisions and missing wide open receivers.

Quincy is not consistent enough to be a starting QB in this league. He has difficulty dealing with the pressure IMHO....and the pressure this year will be higher than ever.

[Sarge]

If Quincy is the reason behind this...then he is the starter.

Problem is...Quincy has never shown any level of consistency. He is the offensive player of the week one week....and the following 4 weeks he is making bad decisions and missing wide open receivers.

Quincy is not consistent enough to be a starting QB in this league. He has difficulty dealing with the pressure IMHO....and the pressure this year will be higher than ever.


I see ya got your old name back.

;)

[Charles]

Based on your handle....I'm not surprised by your response. :rolleyes:

You are refusing to see the obvious.
Please explain. What is the obvious?

I think we should get past the one line answer. It's easy to use my handle as a crutch for your opinion, but quite frankly I don't think you have any Factual information that can support your opinion. Please amuse me. :D

[Charles]

Problem is...Quincy has never shown any level of consistency. He is the offensive player of the week one week....and the following 4 weeks he is making bad decisions and missing wide open receivers.

Quincy is not consistent enough to be a starting QB in this league. He has difficulty dealing with the pressure IMHO....and the pressure this year will be higher than ever.
Amazing!!! You have just characterized every NFL QB prospect t going through the learning curve of becoming a good NFL QB.

I don't seem to recall Carter having problems handling the pressure that comes with Quaterbacking under Parcells. The pressure gets higher every year. The only constant is that Carter has started every Season opener since he was thrown into the pressure.

Jerry Jones has gone on National TV and stated un-equivocally that Carter is going into the same offensive system for the 1st time in his NFL career. Some of us made the same statement and explained how it would affect a QB progression.

Funny how things turn. A chat room "excuse" becomes an organization reason for expected success. :eek:

[Sarge]

Amazing!!! You have just characterized every NFL QB prospect t going through the learning curve of becoming a good NFL QB.

I don't seem to recall Carter having problems handling the pressure that comes with Quaterbacking under Parcells. The pressure gets higher every year. The only constant is that Carter has started every Season opener since he was thrown into the pressure.

Jerry Jones has gone on National TV and stated un-equivocally that Carter is going into the same offensive system for the 1st time in his NFL career. Some of us made the same statement and explained how it would affect a QB progression.

Funny how things turn. A chat room "excuse" becomes an organization reason for expected success. :eek:


Are you Quincy Carter?

No really.

[Charles]

Are you Quincy Carter?

No really.

NO...........................














Am Batman!!!!!!! :eek:

[Mike 1967]

Amazing!!! You have just characterized every NFL QB prospect t going through the learning curve of becoming a good NFL QB.

I don't seem to recall Carter having problems handling the pressure that comes with Quaterbacking under Parcells. The pressure gets higher every year. The only constant is that Carter has started every Season opener since he was thrown into the pressure.

Jerry Jones has gone on National TV and stated un-equivocally that Carter is going into the same offensive system for the 1st time in his NFL career. Some of us made the same statement and explained how it would affect a QB progression.

Funny how things turn. A chat room "excuse" becomes an organization reason for expected success. :eek:


No, I have just characterized Quincy Carter.

I suppose it is just a coincidence that the Cowboys keep looking for QC's replacement.

That does not fit the characterization of every other NFL QB prospect that has been groomed for the starting position. The standard mode of operation is to bring in a veteran to back them up....not continue to search for a young replacement. :eek:

[Double Trouble]

No, I have just characterized Quincy Carter.

I suppose it is just a coincidence that the Cowboys keep looking for QC's replacement.

That does not fit the characterization of every other NFL QB prospect that has been groomed for the starting position. The standard mode of operation is to bring in a veteran to back them up....not continue to search for a young replacement. :eek:
Exactly, Mike. Anyone who read the JJT article on how they got Henson can't rationally take it as anything but a huge no confidence vote on Q.

[jswalker1981]

I say that wr might be a need next year with KJ and TG getting up there in age. i guess it all depends on how bryant performs this year.

I was thinking the same thing. We need Antonio to mature this year, and start performing the way he was his rookie year. I think we need to look at our roster, and see what we have set for the future.

QB: Henson
RB: J. Jones
WR: Bryant
FB: Anderson, Martin?
TE: Witten
T: Adams, Rogers
G: Gurode, Peterman
C: Johnson

DE: Ellis, Wiley
DT: Glover, Blade
LB: Nuygen, Coakley?, James?
CB: Newman, Hunter?
S: Williams, Woodson?

I can see maybe linebacker, another corner, and safety being concerns next year, as in we can need to get upgrades. Not that those positions are severe weaknesses, but that some of the players are getting up in age.

[Charles]

No, I have just characterized Quincy Carter.
Well Quincy Carter is in good company, because most of the successful QBs in the NFL showed flashes and played inconsistently in the early stages of their career. I would expect you to realize this, but I am not surprised you don't. There is a reason most QBs don't become consistently good for 3-4 years. You convineintly do not give Carter the same learning curve, because you have the innate ability to determine which QBs have what it takes to get over the hump. Franchise QBs are developed, they are not DRAFTED. Franchise Qbs earn the RIGHT regardless of draft status, they are not ANNOINTED

I suppose it is just a coincidence that the Cowboys keep looking for QC's replacement.
It also no coincidence that Carter is still the starting QB. Henson is an option should Carter fail. Chad Hutchinson is an option too, so was Leaf, so is Romo. The facts are of the group only Carter is a Play-off starting QB, is a 2 time player of the week, has 33 game experience and has .498 winning Pct. The facts show that none of the so called replacements are on the same level YET.

Henson still has to prove he can play in the NFL. I am not hating Henson. Players have to earn the right. Troy and Staubach were not annointed. They batttled in out in camp.

That does not fit the characterization of every other NFL QB prospect that has been groomed for the starting position. The standard mode of operation is to bring in a veteran to back them up....not continue to search for a young replacement. :eek:

QBs are not groomed. This isn't some dog show. Players earn the right. I don't seem to recall Jimmy Johnson grooming Troy by bringing in a veteran before he proved he could lead the team. Infact Walsh and Troy were in a heated battle. Roger wasn't handed the job. Brady wasn't groomed. he took the job when Bledsoe was injured. Montana wasn't groomed. Players earn the right on the field.

In the salary cap NFL franchises have no choice but to play their 1st Rd. QBs because of the unbelievable cap dollars. They bring in cap friendly veterans to assist and push the QBs. They are put in a position to succeed, because of their abilities and potential.

Just because the Cowboys are not following the standard of "operation"utilised by teams locked into high cap No.s with their highly drafted QBs doesn't mean they don't think Carter has a chance. The so called "grooming" illusion is a by product of the salary cap Era. Players are annointed because they are drafted in the 1st Rd.

Grooming doesn't apply in the field. Qbs earn the right. They are not groomed.

[Mike 1967]

Please explain. What is the obvious?

I think we should get past the one line answer. It's easy to use my handle as a crutch for your opinion, but quite frankly I don't think you have any Factual information that can support your opinion. Please amuse me. :D

Ho humm....ok....here are the facts concerning your attention to Quincy Carter

As of 4/27/4 @ 5:30PM Central Standard Time......You have made exactly 20 posts on this forum.

Of those 20 posts.....12 of them were either your defense of QC or your attack of potential replacements of QC or attacks on those who made have made QB predictions that were negative to QC

Another post was a draft analysis which started with a break down of QC's stellar abilities.

That's 13 out of 20.....65%

I think you need help.

The first thought that came to my mind was......what the heck is Qcard going to discuss if Quincy ever gets traded and/or cut.

[Mike 1967]

Well Quincy Carter is in good company, because most of the successful QBs in the NFL showed flashes and played inconsistently in the early stages of their career. I would expect you to realize this, but I am not surprised you don't. There is a reason most QBs don't become consistently good for 3-4 years. You convineintly do not give Carter the same learning curve, because you have the innate ability to determine which QBs have what it takes to get over the hump. Franchise QBs are developed, they are not DRAFTED. Franchise Qbs earn the RIGHT regardless of draft status, they are not ANNOINTED

It also no coincidence that Carter is still the starting QB. Henson is an option should Carter fail. Chad Hutchinson is an option too, so was Leaf, so is Romo. The facts are of the group only Carter is a Play-off starting QB, is a 2 time player of the week, has 33 game experience and has .498 winning Pct. The facts show that none of the so called replacements are on the same level YET.

Henson still has to prove he can play in the NFL. I am not hating Henson. Players have to earn the right. Troy and Staubach were not annointed. They batttled in out in camp.


QBs are not groomed. This isn't some dog show. Players earn the right. I don't seem to recall Jimmy Johnson grooming Troy by bringing in a veteran before he proved he could lead the team. Infact Walsh and Troy were in a heated battle. Roger wasn't handed the job. Brady wasn't groomed. he took the job when Bledsoe was injured. Montana wasn't groomed. Players earn the right on the field.

In the salary cap NFL franchises have no choice but to play their 1st Rd. QBs because of the unbelievable cap dollars. They bring in cap friendly veterans to assist and push the QBs. They are put in a position to succeed, because of their abilities and potential.

Just because the Cowboys are not following the standard of "operation"utilised by teams locked into high cap No.s with their highly drafted QBs doesn't mean they don't think Carter has a chance. The so called "grooming" illusion is a by product of the salary cap Era. Players are annointed because they are drafted in the 1st Rd.

Grooming doesn't apply in the field. Qbs earn the right. They are not groomed.

Make that 14 out of 21 :D

[Charles]

Ho humm....ok....here are the facts concerning your attention to Quincy Carter

As of 4/27/4 @ 5:30PM Central Standard Time......You have made exactly 20 posts on this forum.

Of those 20 posts.....12 of them were either your defense of QC or your attack of potential replacements of QC or attacks on those who made have made QB predictions that were negative to QC

Another post was a draft analysis which started with a break down of QC's stellar abilities.

That's 13 out of 20.....65%

I think you need help.

The first thought that came to my mind was......what the heck is Qcard going to discuss if Quincy ever gets traded and/or cut.

I am not surprised. The only response you have to my post in regards to "grooming franchise Qbs" is the percentage of Quincy posts I have made.

When you are ready to get back to the topic and defend your dumb opinion let me know. I look forward to more dumb opinions like grooming QBs.

Please remind us - Who was the veteran QB brought in whilst Jimmy Johnson was "grooming Troy?

[Mike 1967]

I am not surprised. The only response you have to my post in regards to "grooming franchise Qbs" is the percentage of Quincy posts I have made. [/b]

Umm.....your confused about which of your posts I was responding to. I was not responding to your post on grooming.... to be honest...I could not get past the first 2 sentences of that diatribe. It all seemed so familiar :rolleyes:

Below is the quote I was responding to.

I think we should get past the one line answer. It's easy to use my handle as a crutch for your opinion, but quite frankly I don't think you have any Factual information that can support your opinion. Please amuse me [/b]

I provided factual information, besides your handle, to support why I was not surprised by your apologist support of Quincy. It is clear that your our passionately entrenched in your position....regardless of the fact that Dallas continue's to attempt to look for Quincy's replacement :D

[Sarge]

I think we should get past the one line answer. It's easy to use my handle as a crutch for your opinion, but quite frankly I don't think you have any Factual information that can support your opinion. Please amuse me

I provided factual information, besided your handle, to support why I was not surprised by your apologist support of Quincy :D[/QUOTE]




Thanks for your dumb opinion Mike.

;)

[Mike 1967]

[/QUOTE]


Thanks for your dumb opinion Mike.

;)[/QUOTE]

No problem.. I'm here to amuse ;)

[dmq]

This whole situation with Drew is not the same as the Hutch decision. I think Parcells knew much more about Drew before he came here than JJ knew about Hutch. Either way, both situations should tell you a little about what they know about Carter. He can't read defenses and he can't find the open receiver.

[Charles]

Umm.....your confused about which of your posts I was responding to. I was not responding to your post on grooming.... to be honest...I could not get past the first 2 sentences of that diatribe. It all seemed so familiar

Of course you couldn't get past the 1st 2 sentences. The truth always hurts. Your opinion about grooming QBs was borderline juvenile. I gave examples like Troy etc. Your only come back is to label me a Carter apologist. You can't go down the path of debating the points.

Below is the quote I was responding to.



I provided factual information, besides your handle, to support why I was not surprised by your apologist support of Quincy. It is clear that your our passionately entrenched in your position....regardless of the fact that Dallas continue's to attempt to look for Quincy's replacement



Therein lies you problem. You are providing factual information to support a theory or idea that does not exist.

Carter hasn't earned anything yet. There isn't a QB to replace. Carter, Henson , Chad and Romo are all options in the Cowboys pusuit of finding a SuperBowl winning QB.

The Cowboys continue to pursue every possible resource to find a "Franchise QB". Carter hasn't earned anything. He like every other successful QB is trying to earn the right. So is Chad in Europe. Henson is another option should others fail. he is not being "groomed". He is being given the chance like Carter, Chad and Romo.

The only constant is Quincy has gone alot further in proving himself so far than any other option. Please amuse Mike. I doubt you can debate the issue at hand. Oneliners and handle lines are your best come back

[kidcrook]

I saw in an earlier post that QBs were being brought in to replace Carter. I don't think that is the case. These QBs, Carter included, have been brought in since 2001 to replace Aikman.

Aikman was the last firmly entreached starter so he is the QB that the Cowboys have been dying to replace.

During this search for young talent, Carter has been the one that has performed the "best". Comparatively.

[Mike 1967]

Carter hasn't earned anything yet. There isn't a QB to replace. Carter, Henson , Chad and Romo are all options in the Cowboys pusuit of finding a SuperBowl winning QB.

The Cowboys continue to pursue every possible resource to find a "Franchise QB". Carter hasn't earned anything. He like every other successful QB is trying to earn the right. So is Chad in Europe. Henson is another option should others fail. he is not being "groomed". He is being given the chance like Carter, Chad and Romo.

The only constant is Quincy has gone alot further in proving himself so far than any other option.

I must admit, I am positively surprised by your post above. I couldn't agree more with your assesment (as outlined above) of the situation.

I would add that I believe that the organization, as a whole, has a higher expectation of Henson capabilities at this point. But your are absolutely correct when you state that Quincy has gone a lot farther in proving his abilities.

But I would also add that the organization is not completely happy with Carters proven abilities. They obviously want better. Wether that will be an improved Carter, Henson, Romo.....or some uknown candidate is yet to be seen.

So Henson would be 1 of the 3 out of (Henson, Hutch and Romo) who has also not proven himself to be inadequate for the job expectations. Some might even argue that Romo falls into that category.


My opinion at this point is that Carter will not be the one standing behind the Center with the Star on his helmet at the end of this process. I base my opinion on what I have seen from Carter and the leadership of this organization the last 3 years. But it is just an opinion.

And at the end of the day...my main concern is winning....not having a correct opinion. If Carter is the man that can get the job done....then trust me....I will be very happy when the job gets done.


Is that enough words for ya :D

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

It's the over the top post that get me from people. Quincy cannot find open recievers. And cannot read Defenses on and on.

When you guys make comments like that. It's fringe B.S the kid had 3000 + yards
And while I know he has to cut down on the impulse ints. he did have 17 Td's he read something at Least 17 Times.

Quincy needs to improve that's a given. Some of you guys hate him, you have since he came from his moms womb, That too is a given. But you are never going to get what you want, a day when you can make mindless post bashing him and no one responds. If that's what you want go to the we hate Quincy Chat room I sure they exist.

Quincy is God

Is no more or less Silly Than saying He cannot find recievers
When Stats say he has already.

As usual the truth is in the middle

[Hostile]

That's a great article. Galloway is right on the money.

[Mike 1967]

It's the over the top post that get me from people. Quincy cannot find open recievers. And cannot read Defenses on and on.

When you guys make comments like that. It's fringe B.S the kid had 3000 + yards
And while I know he has to cut down on the impulse ints. he did have 17 Td's he read something at Least 17 Times.

Quincy needs to improve that's a given. Some of you guys hate him, you have since he came from his moms womb, That too is a given. But you are never going to get what you want, a day when you can make mindless post bashing him and no one responds. If that's what you want go to the we hate Quincy Chat room I sure they exist.

Quincy is God

Is no more or less Silly Than saying He cannot find recievers
When Stats say he has already.

As usual the truth is in the middle

I don't hate Quincy. I'm just an impatient fan who wants better QB performance. I was spoiled by Aikman and Staubach.

If that is Quincy....then great......if not ..... then great.....bottom line is better qb play than we have had the last 3 years.

If we agree that the QB play of the last 3 years needs improvement....then we agree. All we can do from that point is postulate about what may happen in the future.

All I am demanding happens, as a fan, is that we get improved QB performance. Don't care if it's your mother out there behind center....so long as there is consistent execution.

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't hate Quincy. I'm just an impatient fan who wants better QB performance. I was spoiled by Aikman and Staubach.

If that is Quincy....then great......if not ..... then great.....bottom line is better qb play than we have had the last 3 years.

If we agree that the QB play of the last 3 years needs improvement....then we agree. All we can do from that point is postulate about what may happen in the future.

All I am demanding happens, as a fan, is that we get improved QB performance. Don't care if it's your mother out there behind center....so long as there is consistent execution.


Danny White was 3X the QB Q-card is.

[Mike 1967]

I don't seem to recall Jimmy Johnson grooming Troy by bringing in a veteran before he proved he could lead the team. Infact Walsh and Troy were in a heated battle.

Would you agree that Aikman in his 2nd and 3rd year was a better QB than Carter in his 2nd and 3rd year ?

I understand that Aikman was surrounded by a better cast and a more stable offensive system.....so this will basically be opinion.

[Mike 1967]

Danny White was 3X the QB Q-card is.

For the record...I was not a big fan of Danny White :)

[Charles]

Would you agree that Aikman in his 2nd and 3rd year was a better QB than Carter in his 2nd and 3rd year ?

I understand that Aikman was surrounded by a better cast and a more stable offensive system.....so this will basically be opinion.
Troy was definately better in his 3rd year. He made the ProBowl.

They both played poorly in their 2nd year.

[SMCowboy]

Anyone who thinks that Bill Parcells will just GIVE the job to Drew Henson next year, is completely out of their mind. NOONE, and I repeast NOONE will EVER be given anything while Bill Parcell's is the HC.

And anyone who thinks that Bill Parcells will hing the future of the Dallas Cowboys on 1 player, expecially when that one player has not taken a snap in 3 years, is beyond help even.

We went after Drew Henson so hard, because we realize that we had a chance to get a QB that WOULD have gone in the first round this year, had noone traded for him, and had he not signed a contract, for a 3rd round DP next year. Anytime you have a chance to get a player that talented, that cheap, you have to be intrested. This had nothing to do with if they think Quincy can be the answer at QB, this is about not stopping until we find a franchise QB. If anouther extremely talented QB like Henson and Hutchinson is avaible next year, you can count on us atleast looking VERY hard at him also, expecially if he comes as very cheap. And we will keep looking at more options at QB, until one of them finally steps up, and becomes a "franchise" QB.

[SMCowboy]

I saw in an earlier post that QBs were being brought in to replace Carter. I don't think that is the case. These QBs, Carter included, have been brought in since 2001 to replace Aikman.

Aikman was the last firmly entreached starter so he is the QB that the Cowboys have been dying to replace.

During this search for young talent, Carter has been the one that has performed the "best". Comparatively.


Exactly. We will KEEP bringing in talented young QB, until one of them setups up and becomes a "franchise QB".


Even after we drafted Troy Aikman with the #1 pick in the draft, we also turned around and took Steve Walsh in the supplemntal draft. Was that because they already didn't think Aikman could be a "franchise" QB? He!! no, that was because, as is the case this time. Jerry Jones will not rest until someone steps up and becomes the franchise QB. If we have a chance to bring in anouther extremely talented young QB next year, you can count on us being one of the teams beating down his door also.

[jdnalls]

If Galloway is accurate in his observations, then the obvious next move is to draft Mike Williams if there is a supplemental draft.

Keyshawn and Glenn are getting up there in age, and will not likely be a part of the "championship teams" that Parcells is building.

I am not to high on Williams, but it would make sense to draft him and start preparing him for the 2005 run...
Hey, I would absolutely love to have Mike Williams if we could land him in the supplemental draft. It would be like an early Christmas present. :cool: