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Mr Cowboy
09-10-2006, 08:10 PM
someone called in and suggested that it's time for Bledsoe to take a sit, and Norm just lost it and tole the caller to get the hell off and to get off of Beldsoe...........it was funny!

Hostile
09-10-2006, 08:11 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.

bbgun
09-10-2006, 08:12 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.

But not next Sunday. But if Bled blows against the Skins, Romo will have two weeks to prepare for Game 3.

Mr Cowboy
09-10-2006, 08:13 PM
Yeah.....but that's what happens when we lose a tough one like today.

BigDFan5
09-10-2006, 08:13 PM
But not next Sunday. But if Bled blows against the Skins, Romo will have two weeks to prepare for Game 3.

If Bledsoe comes out next week and throws 3 picks again I may be inclined to agree. But the ones calling for Bledsoes head after 1 game are ridiculous IMO

Rack Bauer
09-10-2006, 08:14 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.


Wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Bledsoe is only effective when he has time to throw. If our OL's performance today is any indication, he won't be getting any time to throw this year. Therefore, if that OL continues to struggle, we KNOW he won't be effective.


At least Romo is an UNknown. I like Bledsoe, but he just isn't any good when he has pressure. He's below average when he has pressure. He should of thrown 5 ints today. I'm guessing Romo might have done a bit better cuz at least he can move a little bit.

big dog cowboy
09-10-2006, 08:14 PM
But not next Sunday. But if Bled blows against the Skins, Romo will have two weeks to prepare for Game 3.
Agreed.

Little Jr
09-10-2006, 08:15 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.


Afraid of what? Romo starting. If Bledsoe continues to play like he did today it cant get much worst.

Gaede
09-10-2006, 08:16 PM
If Bledsoe comes out next week and throws 3 picks again I may be inclined to agree. But the ones calling for Bledsoes head after 1 game are ridiculous IMO

well put. Bledsoe sucked completely today, but it was only one week. If it becomes a week to week thing, then yeah, he should sit. But everyone has off weeks, and its only fair to give him, in the very least, one more shot

tyke1doe
09-10-2006, 08:21 PM
I was joking when I called for Romo.

My serious opinion is you give Bledsoe this year.

If we are out of contention before the end of the year, you put Romo in, or if he has a very serious funk the first month of the season, insert Romo.

Bledsoe isn't going to get any better at QB. He's likely learned all he has learned at this point.

If he can't get it done with this present team/talent, it aint gonna happen.

This should be his last year as starting Qb of the Dallas Cowboys.

Dale
09-10-2006, 08:22 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.

Today's loss confirmed my worst fear, though. It took just one game to have a controversy -- at least among the fans -- hang over this team's head.

After sitting through a painful loss like today, where the quarterback throws three dumb interceptions, my heart says it's time to bench the QB. The blood gets pumping and you just can't stand these mental errors and you want to see a change.

I know that's probably not the best decision on most levels, especially after one week. My brain is certainly slapping my heart around saying, "C'mon."

But I am now scared -- and maybe it's just the frustration of this loss circling over head -- that this is just the beginning of these types of performances.

He looked so great to start the game. I believe Tru Blue Cowboy said this, but something happened. The rain is a plausible excuse, but it sure seemed like something physically happened to him with all the stretching he was doing.

I want to believe this was a one-time thing and we'll look against the Redskins like we looked the first quarter today. Here's hoping.

JonJon
09-10-2006, 08:24 PM
Wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Bledsoe is only effective when he has time to throw. If our OL's performance today is any indication, he won't be getting any time to throw this year. Therefore, if that OL continues to struggle, we KNOW he won't be effective.


At least Romo is an UNknown. I like Bledsoe, but he just isn't any good when he has pressure. He's below average when he has pressure. He should of thrown 5 ints today. I'm guessing Romo might have done a bit better cuz at least he can move a little bit.

Again I aree with you 100%. I was all for Bledsoe, but it was painfully clear today that he just cannot do well under pressure. He gets anxious, panics, and makes bad decisions. If we do make the playoffs, history as proven that he will collapse under pressure and we will lose by his mistakes. Sorry, but it is T-Mo time.

bbgun
09-10-2006, 08:28 PM
Don't worry: people will be screaming for Bled when Romo throws three picks.

joseephuss
09-10-2006, 08:29 PM
Wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Bledsoe is only effective when he has time to throw. If our OL's performance today is any indication, he won't be getting any time to throw this year. Therefore, if that OL continues to struggle, we KNOW he won't be effective.


At least Romo is an UNknown. I like Bledsoe, but he just isn't any good when he has pressure. He's below average when he has pressure. He should of thrown 5 ints today. I'm guessing Romo might have done a bit better cuz at least he can move a little bit.

Some of his worst throws came when he had time. He had a bad game. The offensive line didn't play a good game, but didn't play an all out bad game either. At least relative to what I saw last season.

tyke1doe
09-10-2006, 08:32 PM
Don't worry: people will be screaming for Bled when Romo throws three picks.

I won't.

I'd rather we learn with Romo than go with a Bledsoe, who should know not to do this after 14 years in the NFL.

Rack Bauer
09-10-2006, 08:32 PM
Some of his worst throws came when he had time. He had a bad game. The offensive line didn't play a good game, but didn't play an all out bad game either. At least relative to what I saw last season.


Whoa whoa whoa whoa... I never said he had anything BUT a bad game.


He had a horrible game, but let's not act like pressure had nothing to do with it.

Pressure on previous plays can effect how a QB does even on a play where he has no pressure.

That said, I wanted Romo in there for the simple fact that at least he can avoid the rush.

gbrittain
09-10-2006, 08:33 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.

I have not problem admitting that whatever little and I do mean little confidence I had in Bledsoe is totally gone.

I do truly believe he will bounce back have some good games, but I firmly believe when it counts most he will deliver another performance like this.

I just do not know how else to put it, but I am sick of the Bledsoe experiment. I would be amazed and gladly eat crow, but I will guarantee you that Bledsoe will never lift a Lombardi trophy.

He can not get us to the promised land.

BTW I have no confidence in Romo either. He is an unknown commodity, but as long as Bledsoe is around that is all he will ever be.

Bob Sacamano
09-10-2006, 08:33 PM
Romo will be making the same mistakes as Bledsoe did today, guaranteed, not all our WRs are going to be turning around to him open like in preseason

Rack Bauer
09-10-2006, 08:36 PM
Romo will be making the same mistakes as Bledsoe did today, guaranteed, not all our WRs are going to be turning around to him open like in preseason


I disagree. He'll make SOME of the mistakes Bledsoe made, and some others Bledsoe didn't make, but he won't make all the same mistakes.

And at least Romo could buy himself a little time, which with our OL, it's a necessity at this point.

bbgun
09-10-2006, 08:36 PM
Bled should not lose his job just because the guys in front of him aren't doing theirs. That would be a gross injustice. Bench a lineman, not Bled.

RealCowboyfan
09-10-2006, 08:39 PM
I believe Bledsoe should start diffently if we want to lose. I love Bledsoe skills, he sure know how to throw interceptions and get sacked alot.

Everybody knows he's going to Terry Glenn. Tony Romo should've started the season off. He has more mobility than Bledsoe. Tony Romo is a improvisor.

gbrittain
09-10-2006, 08:40 PM
Bled should not lose his job just because the guys in front of him aren't doing theirs. That would be a gross injustice. Bench a lineman, not Bled.

Give me a break. Bledsoe looked awful. His performance can not be blamed on the OL.

LaTunaNostra
09-10-2006, 08:41 PM
Today's loss confirmed my worst fear, though. It took just one game to have a controversy -- at least among the fans -- hang over this team's head.


Dale, it was 'just one game' but it was not a mediocre performance, or even a bad one; it was a truly abysmal one. And the protection was over all nothing as cheeselike as it was last year.

Drew could 'bounce back' for next week's game, he's done so often enough. But there was something qualitatively different about his slowness today - and I know I don't feel that way just because I came fresh from watching Carson Palmer (sigh!) .

His movements looked arthritic on occasion, and he pushed some throws like his elbows were locked. Mentally, you could almost hear him processing..and he still locked on receivers. There's a difference between lack of speed and flat out decrepitness, and what Drew looked today, was just plain OLD.

Then, the accuracy, or lack thereof. That was shocking. Not even a vicinity passer, and on throws where he wasn't touched. Even on bad days, Drew usually has a strong long ball, and zip on the passes that require it.

I've seen plenty of Bledsoe "off days" and this one was different. I also noticed how thin his face was, as tho he had been sick this week and lost some weight. He just struck me as sort of 'infirm'.

And Bill as 'senile'.:D

But seriously, he appeared weakened in some way , like a lifetime of sacks had all of a sudden caught up with him.

After a day like this one, any team's fans would be concerned. Hopefully, there is a physical explanation for the brittle looking performance - like osteoporosis.

Rack Bauer
09-10-2006, 08:41 PM
I know it's not all Bledsoe's fault, but if the backup QB has the mobility to offset our sorry OLs inability to block, and that gives us a better chance to win, then I'm all for it.

neosapien23
09-10-2006, 08:41 PM
Bled should not lose his job just because the guys in front of him aren't doing theirs. That would be a gross injustice. Bench a lineman, not Bled.

Bledsoe was the one who played horrible today, not the Oline. While I don't want him on the bench yet, if he has two more bad games like this in a row, the Tony Romo project should begin.

Bob Sacamano
09-10-2006, 08:42 PM
And at least Romo could buy himself a little time, which with our OL, it's a necessity at this point.

I agree with that, but I guarantee you Romo will be making more questionable throws than Bledsoe will, and although Bledsoe looks like he can't read a blitz, Romo will struggle w/ it just because he's inexperienced, if we start Romo, the season is lost IMO so I hope it doesn't go that route

Rack Bauer
09-10-2006, 08:42 PM
Bledsoe was the one who played horrible today, not the Oline. While I don't want him on the bench yet, if he has two more bad games like this in a row, the Tony Romo project should begin.


The OL played horribly too. There's no denying that. They both sucked.

JonJon
09-10-2006, 08:44 PM
Sorry, but Bledsoe was making poor decisions even when the line gave him time. If you watched closely, you would have seen that Beldsoe was in panic mode for the entire second half, regardless of pressure. The O-line held up well against a very good defensive line, and also considering how many times Jax blitzed. Bledsoe left guys open all day and underthrew almost every deep pass. Glenn's and JJ's long receptions should have gone for six but they both had to slow down and let the ball come to them.

Can't hang this one on the line, my friend. It's time for T-Mo.

neosapien23
09-10-2006, 08:44 PM
The OL played horribly too. There's no denying that. They both sucked.

Not as bad. They opened up running lanes up until the point that the defense knew Bledsoe's timimg was off. Once he started missing wide open receivers, the were alot more blitz packages.

Rack Bauer
09-10-2006, 08:44 PM
I agree with that, but I guarantee you Romo will be making more questionable throws than Bledsoe will, and although Bledsoe looks like he can't read a blitz, Romo will struggle w/ it just because he's inexperienced, if we start Romo, the season is lost IMO so I hope it doesn't go that route


The season is not lost if we start Romo. If we start Romo, it's cuz BP is trying to SAVE the season. You and I (and everyone else) knows BP wouldn't "throw in the towel" to get a QB some experience. If he were to make the change (he won't) it would be because the thinks Bledsoe has "lost it" and that Romo gives us the best chance to win.

bbgun
09-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Bledsoe was the one who played horrible today, not the Oline. While I don't want him on the bench yet, if he has two more bad games like this in a row, the Tony Romo project should begin.

Baloney. Flo was a human turnstile at left tackle (not to mention the penalties), and Columbo was responsible for the inside bullrush that caused Bled's pick before the half. Then there was the lack of a running game after JJ's TD. Bled was bad, but he had a lot of company in that regard.

Maikeru-sama
09-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Some of his worst throws came when he had time. He had a bad game. The offensive line didn't play a good game, but didn't play an all out bad game either. At least relative to what I saw last season.

Yep, as painfull as it is...I am rewatching the game now.

ZeroClub
09-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Today's loss confirmed my worst fear, though. It took just one game to have a controversy -- at least among the fans -- hang over this team's head.

After sitting through a painful loss like today, where the quarterback throws three dumb interceptions, my heart says it's time to bench the QB. The blood gets pumping and you just can't stand these mental errors and you want to see a change.

I know that's probably not the best decision on most levels, especially after one week. My brain is certainly slapping my heart around saying, "C'mon."

But I am now scared -- and maybe it's just the frustration of this loss circling over head -- that this is just the beginning of these types of performances.

He looked so great to start the game. I believe Tru Blue Cowboy said this, but something happened. The rain is a plausible excuse, but it sure seemed like something physically happened to him with all the stretching he was doing.

I want to believe this was a one-time thing and we'll look against the Redskins like we looked the first quarter today. Here's hoping.
I expect one or two boneheaded plays out of Bledsoe per game and a few sacks due to immobility.

He had significant problems with his accuracy today, and that surprised me.

Today, not only were his characteristic weaknesses evident, but also, he wasn't very good at the things he's usually good at.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Today's loss confirmed my worst fear, though. It took just one game to have a controversy -- at least among the fans -- hang over this team's head.There shouldn't be a controversy though. The option is a guy who has not even played a meaningful down. What message does this send the netire team if Bledsoe is benched from 1 bad game?

After sitting through a painful loss like today, where the quarterback throws three dumb interceptions, my heart says it's time to bench the QB. The blood gets pumping and you just can't stand these mental errors and you want to see a change. Let me tell you the biggest problem with switching QBs this soon is though. People dislike Parcells' conservative play calling. You think he's conservative now, watch when he's got to go with a QB who has no skins on the wall.

I know that's probably not the best decision on most levels, especially after one week. My brain is certainly slapping my heart around saying, "C'mon."Losses hit all of us. Usually right in the nads. It's one game.

But I am now scared -- and maybe it's just the frustration of this loss circling over head -- that this is just the beginning of these types of performances. I knew we could lose this game. I also thought we could win it. I am not going to fear until we can't beat division foes.

He looked so great to start the game. I believe Tru Blue Cowboy said this, but something happened. The rain is a plausible excuse, but it sure seemed like something physically happened to him with all the stretching he was doing. On that I agree. If he was hurt, play Romo. I don't think that is sending a message.

I want to believe this was a one-time thing and we'll look against the Redskins like we looked the first quarter today. Here's hoping.Here, here.

PacoReloaded
09-10-2006, 08:52 PM
I won't.

I'd rather we learn with Romo than go with a Bledsoe, who should know not to do this after 14 years in the NFL.Ding, ding, ding.

We have a winner.

:bow:

I'd much rather go through the growing pains with a Qb who might actually have a future than one who has none.

RealCowboyfan
09-10-2006, 08:52 PM
The season is not lost if we start Romo. If we start Romo, it's cuz BP is trying to SAVE the season. You and I (and everyone else) knows BP wouldn't "throw in the towel" to get a QB some experience. If he were to make the change (he won't) it would be because the thinks Bledsoe has "lost it" and that Romo gives us the best chance to win.


AND I MUST CONFIRM. ROMO GIVES COWBOYS the best chance of winning, cause of his mobility.

Bob Sacamano
09-10-2006, 08:53 PM
has Romo even seen an NFL blitz?

Angus
09-10-2006, 08:53 PM
He found the guts to start Watkins. Maybe there is hope.

gbrittain
09-10-2006, 08:54 PM
There shouldn't be a controversy though. The option is a guy who has not even played a meaningful down. What message does this send the netire team if Bledsoe is benched from 1 bad game?

Let me tell you the biggest problem with switching QBs this soon is though. People dislike Parcells' conservative play calling. You think he's conservative now, watch when he's got to go with a QB who has no skins on the wall.

Losses hit all of us. Usually right in the nads. It's one game.

I knew we could lose this game. I also thought we could win it. I am not going to fear until we can't beat division foes.

On that I agree. If he was hurt, play Romo. I don't think that is sending a message.

Here, here.

Hos,

Let me ask you something. Do you think Dallas is capable of winning a Super Bowl with Bledsoe at QB?

I am asking this question with the assumption that Dallas has somewhere between an average to good defense, but not a dominating one.

I have no preconceived notion that Romo is better than Bledsoe. I do think we need to find out what Romo is made of sooner than later.

Otherwise we just go into next season with the exact same worry you have today and that means another year of Bledsoe. I do not think I can take Bledsoe any more.

I am positive I am venting a little, but I am pretty sure that Bledsoe will never hold a Lombardi trophy as well. The latter is all I really care about.

DipChit
09-10-2006, 08:55 PM
All of this collective trying to "will" Bledsoe to the bench due to crappy play and hopelessness ought to be re-directed to him tweaking an ankle or something. Because *thats* the only way you're going to see Romo any time soon.

Pretty shocking actually, especially considering our less than stellar o-line the last few years, that for 3 years in a row now the backup QB has never been forced into action.

Bach
09-10-2006, 08:55 PM
There shouldn't be a controversy though. The option is a guy who has not even played a meaningful down. What message does this send the netire team if Bledsoe is benched from 1 bad game?


I dont' think you need worry. BP wouldn't replace him with Romo even if we are 5-10 going into the final game.
"Don't want to lose the player, ok."

harkm
09-10-2006, 08:55 PM
has Romo even seen an NFL blitz?

There is such a thing as video tape.

Bob Sacamano
09-10-2006, 08:56 PM
He found the guts to start Watkins. Maybe there is hope.

and yet Watkins didn't impact this game whatsoever, while the QB has many chances to lose it for you, I doubt it

Bob Sacamano
09-10-2006, 08:57 PM
There is such a thing as video tape.

I think that's a little different than actually experiencing it

Maikeru-sama
09-10-2006, 08:57 PM
He found the guts to start Watkins. Maybe there is hope.


Starting a rookie at FS and starting an individual who hasnt taken a snap in the NFL at QB is apples and oranges.

I just have to beleive Romo would struggle mightily if he were named the starter.

Also, if the move was made this early, I think that it would send the wrong message.

Just saying...be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.

- Mike G.

harkm
09-10-2006, 08:59 PM
I think that's a little different than actually experiencing it

So he hasn't practiced against an all out blitz before? It is a wonder any young quarterbacks have every played in this league as none of them had actually played against the blitz.

ZeroClub
09-10-2006, 09:02 PM
Let me tell you the biggest problem with switching QBs this soon is though. People dislike Parcells' conservative play calling. You think he's conservative now, watch when he's got to go with a QB who has no skins on the wall.That's a problem.

The other huge problem is that you've cut Bledsoe off at the knees.

Once you sit Bledsoe (for anything other than injury) and start Romo, it is exceedingly difficult to bring Bledsoe back (if Romo stinks or gets hurt) after you've told Bledsoe and Bledsoe's teammates that you don't believe in him anymore.

(It happened to Danny White once and he was never the same.)

It is almost like cutting Bledsoe. You are basically saying that he's not going to be your starter any more. It is a huge decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 09:06 PM
Hos,

Let me ask you something. Do you think Dallas is capable of winning a Super Bowl with Bledsoe at QB? I truthfully don't know. I do think he gives us a better opportunity than Romo though.

I am asking this question with the assumption that Dallas has somewhere between an average to good defense, but not a dominating one.I think 1 game is too soon to figure on this. We were on the road at a team that one 12 games last year. It's not like we rolled over for the Packers or Texans.

I have no preconceived notion that Romo is better than Bledsoe. I do think we need to find out what Romo is made of sooner than later.The problem is we've needed to know for the last 3 years. Now is not the time to experiment.

Otherwise we just go into next season with the exact same worry you have today and that means another year of Bledsoe. I do not think I can take Bledsoe any more.I think you'd better get used to it. The Dallas-FW media is going to call for Romo and Tuna is going to plant his feet in the sand and not be moved.

Book it.

I am positive I am venting a little, but I am pretty sure that Bledsoe will never hold a Lombardi trophy as well. The latter is all I really care about.He may not and I've been saying that for 2 years now.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 09:07 PM
That's a problem.

The other huge problem is that you've cut Bledsoe off at the knees.

Once you sit Bledsoe (for anything other than injury) and start Romo, it is exceedingly difficult to bring Bledsoe back (if Romo stinks or gets hurt) after you've told Bledsoe and Bledsoe's teammates that you don't believe in him anymore.

(It happened to Danny White once and he was never the same.)

It is almost like cutting Bledsoe. You are basically saying that he's not going to be your starter any more. It is a huge decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly.I agree 100% and we have no other options.

Bob Sacamano
09-10-2006, 09:08 PM
So he hasn't practiced against an all out blitz before? It is a wonder any young quarterbacks have every played in this league as none of them had actually played against the blitz.

my point is young QBs who haven't seen an NFL blitz, are less apt to respond favorably to it, and yet you think that young QB is the key to turning a season around?!!

CantonBound08
09-10-2006, 09:09 PM
So he hasn't practiced against an all out blitz before? It is a wonder any young quarterbacks have every played in this league as none of them had actually played against the blitz.
I'm sure he has practiced against the blitz, but we know that we do not scheme in the pre-season, and I'm quite confident that most other teams don't either. He hasn't had the experience that Bledsoe has, but if Bledsoe strings a couple of performances together like the one today I would not be surprised to see him play. Someone mentioned after the bye week if Bledsoe struggles...that sounds about right. However, if Romo does get playing time I am guessing there will be plenty of bad to go with the good. (I really don't think Bill will bench Bledsoe)

gbrittain
09-10-2006, 09:11 PM
I truthfully don't know. I do think he gives us a better opportunity than Romo though.

I think 1 game is too soon to figure on this. We were on the road at a team that one 12 games last year. It's not like we rolled over for the Packers or Texans.

The problem is we've needed to know for the last 3 years. Now is not the time to experiment.

I think you'd better get used to it. The Dallas-FW media is going to call for Romo and Tuna is going to plant his feet in the sand and not be moved.

Book it.

He may not and I've been saying that for 2 years now.

I know you have. You are one of the posters who understand the value of the QB position.

One thing is for sure, in order to break away from Bledsoe it is going to have to be painful. We are not going to have a sure thing waiting in the wings.

DIAF
09-10-2006, 09:12 PM
AND I MUST CONFIRM. ROMO GIVES COWBOYS the best chance of winning, cause of his mobility.

Well, phew, im glad for that! Quick, call BP and JJ and let them know!

joseephuss
09-10-2006, 09:13 PM
That's a problem.

The other huge problem is that you've cut Bledsoe off at the knees.

Once you sit Bledsoe (for anything other than injury) and start Romo, it is exceedingly difficult to bring Bledsoe back (if Romo stinks or gets hurt) after you've told Bledsoe and Bledsoe's teammates that you don't believe in him anymore.

(It happened to Danny White once and he was never the same.)

It is almost like cutting Bledsoe. You are basically saying that he's not going to be your starter any more. It is a huge decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly.

I agree with what you were saying, but I slightly disagree about Danny White.

Danny bounced back with a good year in 1985. He was on his way to his best season in 1986 until he broke his wrist. That is what essentially ended his career.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 09:14 PM
I know you have. You are one of the posters who understand the value of the QB position.

One thing is for sure, in order to break away from Bledsoe it is going to have to be painful. We are not going to have a sure thing waiting in the wings.2007 Draft man. That's our only real option now if you want my opinion.

gbrittain
09-10-2006, 09:15 PM
2007 Draft man. That's our only real option now if you want my opinion.

And if BP is coach we would not see that rookie for a minimum of two years. This year plus two more of Bledsoe would probably literally drive me insane. :p:

harkm
09-10-2006, 09:16 PM
my point is young QBs who haven't seen an NFL blitz, are less apt to respond favorably to it, and yet you think that young QB is the key to turning a season around?!!

Maybe not turning the season around but certainly building for the future with a quarterback that can escape the rush and throw on the run.Remember, the defense can actually rest when the offense stays on the field. Romo is better than Bledsoe right now imo. The only problem I have with Romo is his redzone offense which will improve with experience.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 09:24 PM
And if BP is coach we would not see that rookie for a minimum of two years. This year plus two more of Bledsoe would probably literally drive me insane. :p:Going to be honest with you gb, our biggest problem is that Parcells is resting on his Hall of Fame resume' instead of trying to actually win. A young hungry Head Coach would do better with this team than Parcells will.

Let me explain before the raving lunatics bang their drums.

This defense does not blitz, even though blitzing works and we have guys who can do it. Why not? Because Parcells believes the blitz leads to big offensive plays. The truth is blitzing also leads to offenses being uncomfortable and making mistakes.

This offense plays to win close games. This offense is not a close games offense. It needs to be more wide open. It isn't going to be. Parcells is too conservative. He's playing late 80's game plans and not what works now.

Offensively and defensively we are too predictable and we don't have the personnel to play that way. To play that way you need a John Riggins who never fumbles and never goes backwards.

It is terrible game planning and it is once again going to cost us. We played last year like we had Adam Vinatieri to bail us out when the game was on the line. We added offensive pieces and played the same way? With Vanderjagt at home in his living room no less.

Dumb.

joseephuss
09-10-2006, 09:26 PM
Going to be honest with you gb, our biggest problem is that Parcells is resting on his Hall of Fame resume' instead of trying to actually win. A young hungry head Coach would do better with this team than parcelsl will.

Let me explain before the raving lunatics bang their drums.

This defense does not blitz, even though blitzing works and we have guys who can do it. Why not? Because Parcells believes the blitz leads to big offensive plays. The truth is blitzing also leads to offenses being uncomfortable and making mistakes.

This offense plays to win close games. This offense is not a close games offense. It needs to be more wide open. It isn't going to be. Parcells is too conservative. He's playing late 80's game plans and not what works now.

Offensively and defensively we are too predictable and we don't have the personnel to play that way. To play that way you need a John Riggins who never fumbles and never goes backwards.

It is terrible game planning and it is once again going to cost us. We played last year like we had Adam Vinatieri to bail us out when the game was on the line. We added offensive pieces and played the same way? With Vanderjagt at home in his living room no less.

Dumb.


Yes. My sentiments exactly.

big dog cowboy
09-10-2006, 09:26 PM
Going to be honest with you gb, our biggest problem is that Parcells is resting on his Hall of Fame resume' instead of trying to actually win. A young hungry head Coach would do better with this team than parcelsl will.

Let me explain before the raving lunatics bang their drums.

This defense does not blitz, even though blitzing works and we have guys who can do it. Why not? Because Parcells believes the blitz leads to big offensive plays. The truth is blitzing also leads to offenses being uncomfortable and making mistakes.

This offense plays to win close games. This offense is not a close games offense. It needs to be more wide open. It isn't going to be. Parcells is too conservative. He's playing late 80's game plans and not what works now.

Offensively and defensively we are too predictable and we don't have the personnel to play that way. To play that way you need a John Riggins who never fumbles and never goes backwards.

It is terrible game planning and it is once again going to cost us. We played last year like we had Adam Vinatieri to bail us out when the game was on the line. We added offensive pieces and played the same way? With Vanderjagt at home in his living room no less.

Dumb.
I agree with every word. Someone forward this to BP. I would love to hear his reaction to this.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 09:29 PM
I agree with every word. Someone forward this to BP. I would love to hear his reaction to this.I would too, but not the reactions of everyone laughing at me when Mr. One Liner avoided the questions. Hell I'd laugh too, but really it's not that funny any more. He needs to shut up and coach like he's never coached before. If he can't all his great personnel moves (yes, I called them great without being facetious) are for naught.

dguinta1
09-10-2006, 09:29 PM
Though can' have it both ways people. Everyone complained when we had coaches that had no winning resumes or for that matter any resume. Or do you want an established coach that has done it all and is still here in the NFL cause he knows nothing else.
Rome wasn' built in a day and neither is it reasonable to think Parcell' Cowboys would be too. Who knows, perhaps the Boys needed more work then initially thought when BP took over.

joseephuss
09-10-2006, 09:32 PM
Though can' have it both ways people. Everyone complained when we had coaches that had no winning resumes or for that matter any resume. Or do you want an established coach that has done it all and is still here in the NFL cause he knows nothing else.
Rome wasn' built in a day and neither is it reasonable to think Parcell' Cowboys would be too. Who knows, perhaps the Boys needed more work then initially thought when BP took over.

Well everyone knew the offensive line needed work. That has been obvious for years. It is dissapointing that it is not fixed. It is an offensive line with only two players from pre-Parcells days on the roster.

Bach
09-10-2006, 09:33 PM
Rome wasn' built in a day and neither is it reasonable to think Parcell' Cowboys would be too. Who knows, perhaps the Boys needed more work then initially thought when BP took over.

This is BP's fourth year. How much more time do we need?

wileedog
09-10-2006, 09:34 PM
has Romo even seen an NFL blitz?

Honestly, Bledsoe played today like a guy who had never seen one. He had bad happy feet and seemed to have trouble pulling the trigger. If I watched that game and you told me he was a rookie I wouldn't have been surprised.

I'm not advocating throwing ROmo in there, and maybe today was just a hangover from the shot to the head the Drew took against Minny, but *IF* this continues I fail to see the downside.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 09:35 PM
Though can' have it both ways people. Everyone complained when we had coaches that had no winning resumes or for that matter any resume. Or do you want an established coach that has done it all and is still here in the NFL cause he knows nothing else.
Rome wasn' built in a day and neither is it reasonable to think Parcell' Cowboys would be too. Who knows, perhaps the Boys needed more work then initially thought when BP took over.Parcells has built a good team. There's no denying that. The previous coaches couldn't do that and they weren't hungry either. That's the difference. I said, a hungry young coach could win with THIS team. Parcells may or may not. It depends on how much he can let go of the reins on both sides of the ball and trust the team. I'm not sure he can do that. I really have my doubts. 4 years of this is why.

dguinta1
09-10-2006, 09:38 PM
This is BP's fourth year. How much more time do we need?

True true, so what the hell is the problem here for Dallas!? I know such a general question but seems so tough to get a pin point answer to the Cowboys woes. Though I honestly see improvement in this Cowboys team and it' good to know Bill is working his butt off to get a win. As Madden just said, it' the first game of the season and sloppy mistakes are going to be made. Though I assume that really good teams are able to over come those, ie, Patriots, etc.

big dog cowboy
09-10-2006, 09:41 PM
I would too, but not the reactions of everyone laughing at me when Mr. One Liner avoided the questions. Hell I'd laugh too, but really it's not that funny any more. He needs to shut up and coach like he's never coached before. If he can't all his great personnel moves (yes, I called them great without being facetious) are for naught.
If Bill Belichick was our HC..........

gbrittain
09-10-2006, 09:42 PM
Going to be honest with you gb, our biggest problem is that Parcells is resting on his Hall of Fame resume' instead of trying to actually win. A young hungry Head Coach would do better with this team than Parcells will.

Let me explain before the raving lunatics bang their drums.

This defense does not blitz, even though blitzing works and we have guys who can do it. Why not? Because Parcells believes the blitz leads to big offensive plays. The truth is blitzing also leads to offenses being uncomfortable and making mistakes.

This offense plays to win close games. This offense is not a close games offense. It needs to be more wide open. It isn't going to be. Parcells is too conservative. He's playing late 80's game plans and not what works now.

Offensively and defensively we are too predictable and we don't have the personnel to play that way. To play that way you need a John Riggins who never fumbles and never goes backwards.

It is terrible game planning and it is once again going to cost us. We played last year like we had Adam Vinatieri to bail us out when the game was on the line. We added offensive pieces and played the same way? With Vanderjagt at home in his living room no less.

Dumb.

I could not agree with you more. I posted earlier that the style of play BP has installed would make Jimmy Johnson puke.

We do not attack or go for the jugular ever. We are a bend dont break team on both offense and defense. It is disgusting.

There is no reason Dallas could not attack on both D and O with the personel we have. Instead we just try to hang around until the very end and hope that we are the lucky team at the end when the clock strikes 00:00.

ZeroClub
09-10-2006, 10:02 PM
I don't think playcalling was a major problem for the offense. The Cowboys threw the ball plenty. Most often to open receivers. Lack of execution was the far bigger problem.

Kangaroo
09-10-2006, 10:13 PM
If Bledsoe comes out next week and throws 3 picks again I may be inclined to agree. But the ones calling for Bledsoes head after 1 game are ridiculous IMO

How about us that called for his head the day he was signed.:puke:

Thats right I had this to say about his signing :puke:

Little Jr
09-10-2006, 10:24 PM
I don't think playcalling was a major problem for the offense. The Cowboys threw the ball plenty. Most often to open receivers. Lack of execution was the far bigger problem.


Play calling wasnt all of it but a lot of it. We threw the ball 33 times. 13 of them were with 7 min left in the game when we was down by 7. 6 of the 13 was the last 3 min when we were down by 14. So with around 7 min left in the game we had thrown the ball 20 times and ran the ball 21. The running the ball 21 times might be +or- 1. I looked it up earlier and cant remember but it's close enough.

jimmy40
09-10-2006, 10:28 PM
That's a problem.

The other huge problem is that you've cut Bledsoe off at the knees.

Once you sit Bledsoe (for anything other than injury) and start Romo, it is exceedingly difficult to bring Bledsoe back (if Romo stinks or gets hurt) after you've told Bledsoe and Bledsoe's teammates that you don't believe in him anymore.

(It happened to Danny White once and he was never the same.)

It is almost like cutting Bledsoe. You are basically saying that he's not going to be your starter any more. It is a huge decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly.
Didn't Danny White break his wrist or something that caused him to not be the same?

wileedog
09-10-2006, 10:29 PM
I posted earlier that the style of play BP has installed would make Jimmy Johnson puke.

Jimmy's style was a smashing success in Miami when he no longer had an all-world O-line and RB.

jimmy40
09-10-2006, 10:32 PM
I agree with what you were saying, but I slightly disagree about Danny White.

Danny bounced back with a good year in 1985. He was on his way to his best season in 1986 until he broke his wrist. That is what essentially ended his career.Thought that was the case.

StanleySpadowski
09-10-2006, 10:42 PM
If Bledsoe comes out next week and throws 3 picks again I may be inclined to agree. But the ones calling for Bledsoes head after 1 game are ridiculous IMO

Not ridiculous is you were calling for his head before he even played 1 game for Dallas.;)

wileedog
09-10-2006, 10:47 PM
Not ridiculous is you were calling for his head before he even played 1 game for Dallas.;)

I'm not calling for his head, but I am scratching mine.

The pressure just wasn't that bad today, and that's usually what does Drew in. He made some horrible reads and throws today, sometimes under no real duress unlike last year.

If he does this again against the Skins next week I will be surprised, but I also may consider if there is room on the "knee-jerk Romo bandwagon", because today just sucked, and I don't see how a lesser experienced guy could be much worse.

Joe a Cowboys fan
09-10-2006, 10:53 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.

An honest look at our alternative in a game situation. Doubt it. Bill yanked Henson last year and put Drew back in. Do you really thing Romo will ever get that much of a chance short an an injury to Drew? Doubt it Hoss.

Drew's best contribution this year is that I will remember him for geting us to a top five first round pick if he plays out the season. That and some high picks for geting some offensive linemen. With such high expectations at least I can watch every game knowing there is a hope something good will come out of this season.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 11:00 PM
An honest look at our alternative in a game situation. Doubt it. Bill yanked Henson last year and put Drew back in. Do you really thing Romo will ever get that much of a chance short an an injury to Drew? Doubt it Hoss.

Drew's best contribution this year is that I will remember him for geting us to a top five first round pick if he plays out the season. That and some high picks for geting some offensive linemen. With such high expectations at least I can watch every game knowing there is a hope something good will come out of this season.Henson never got yanked last year. He did in 2004 but that was to put Vinny back in not Bledsoe.

Rush 2112
09-10-2006, 11:04 PM
Bledsoe just had one bad game?

2005.....2nd in sacks, INT's and fumbles.

NE and Buffalo were in a hurry to get rid of him.

At a certain point, a few more games like this and he is the proverbial "progress stopper".

Where there is smoke................

chinch
09-10-2006, 11:11 PM
norm sounds like a dope based on threads here (thankfully i'm in the NY market and don't have access to the local writers/reporters/talkies).

that said, another ABYSMAL (play worse than a rookie) game by Bledsoe with a bye-week following and you'd have to be blind to miss the smoke signals of HE'S BENCHED.

It's annoying that Tuna will get on TO all camp, sit Vanderjerk (for a putz who missed a gimme) 'cause he's shown nothing but then fails to demote a QB who looked LOST IN SPACE. The game film is going to be scary because to the avg fan his decision making process and throws were as BAD as i've seens since the pre-Tuna Joe Pisarcik.

JackMagist
09-10-2006, 11:20 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.I'm assuming that by 'what they want' you mean Romo starting. If Bledsoe continues to play the way he did today I fail to see how that could possibly be a bad thing.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 11:22 PM
I'm assuming that by 'what they want' you mean Romo starting. If Bledsoe continues to play the way he did today I fail to see how that could possibly be a bad thing.I've already said why. If people think Parcells is too conservative now, imagine when/if Romo comes in. The guy is Linus and his blankie is his veteran QBs from years past.

wileedog
09-10-2006, 11:24 PM
I've already said why. If people think parcells is too conservative now, imagine when/if Romo comes in. The guy is Linus and his blankie is his veteran QBs from years past.

THere's nothing wrong with conservative if it wins.

Pittsburgh has Roth, and they certainly aint running the Run-N-Shoot over there.

Verdict
09-10-2006, 11:27 PM
The Cowboys looked like they were going to run away with this game early. We were simply dominating the Jags. I caught myself thinking wow....we will be up 17 to zip at the end of the first qtr. Bledsoe looked sharp. The defense looked sharp. Everything was going our way.

All of a sudden the tide seemed to change. I am wondering if we were not as well conditioned, or acclimated as the jags. Our whole team seemed to just crater.

As for Bledsoe ... I am of the option that he didn't just crater for no reason. I don't think he was just having a bad day. Something changed on a dime with him today. He looked good, crisp, sharp...then horrible. It is almost like his whole mental process just started failing him. Kinda like when a diabetic's blood sugar gets out of whack, or a person has his bell rung, or gets heat exhaustion. I am wondering if the hit he suffered to the head in the preseason is having anything to do with how he tanked today.

I am not making excuses for Bledsoe, but the Bledsoe we saw in the first two or three series is not the same guy we saw for the rest of the game. I realize Bledsoe is prone to making boneheaded decisions from time to time, but today was different. I think something went way wrong with him.

Little Jr
09-10-2006, 11:29 PM
I'll say this. I do not think Bledsoe should be benched after one game. If he comes out with a poor showing next week I'll be the 1st to say he should be benched in favor of Romo. If this happens there will be a few members on this board that will eat some crow that doesnt believe Romo could do it.

Hostile
09-10-2006, 11:44 PM
THere's nothing wrong with conservative if it wins.

Pittsburgh has Roth, and they certainly aint running the Run-N-Shoot over there.Is it winning here? Does Pitt have weapons like Glenn, Owens, Witten, and Jones?

Is their defense conservative?

Sorry, I don't see the similarities or the sense of it here at all.

JackMagist
09-10-2006, 11:56 PM
I've already said why. If people think parcells is too conservative now, imagine when/if Romo comes in. The guy is Linus and his blankie is his veteran QBs from years past.I think that Romo's ability to make plays under pressure so far outshines Bledsoe that it will not matter that the calls are more conservative. We would still get better service out of him than out of Bledsoe because Romo will make things happen.

In truth I'm still of a mind to think that we should stick with Bledsoe for another week. But we cannot win with him performing at the level he did most of the day today. If he stinks it up next week like he did this week I will be fully on the Romo bandwagon screaming for Bledsoe's head. For now I'm at the point that if we made the change I'd be cool with it but if we don't I'm not going to panic yet.

StanleySpadowski
09-11-2006, 06:19 AM
THere's nothing wrong with conservative if it wins.

Pittsburgh has Roth, and they certainly aint running the Run-N-Shoot over there.

Pittsburgh runs a very innovative offense. Just because they run the ball a lot doesn't mean they're conservative. Perhaps you forgot that a WR pass (and some generous officiating) won them the Super Bowl last year.

CrazyCowboy
09-11-2006, 06:35 AM
someone called in and suggested that it's time for Bledsoe to take a sit, and Norm just lost it and tole the caller to get the hell off and to get off of Beldsoe...........it was funny!

Keep us fans straight Norm! :laugh2:

Cowboy Bill Watts
09-11-2006, 06:43 AM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.


hostile, i'm not really a chicken little. bledsoe is a veteran QB who lost a tough road game. he knows how to adjust and what to do at this point.

however, his QB rating in game one was 45.8.

too many 45.8's, and he is gone. quincy carter did better than that.

4lifecowboy
09-11-2006, 07:25 AM
The Cowboys looked like they were going to run away with this game early. We were simply dominating the Jags. I caught myself thinking wow....we will be up 17 to zip at the end of the first qtr. Bledsoe looked sharp. The defense looked sharp. Everything was going our way.

All of a sudden the tide seemed to change. I am wondering if we were not as well conditioned, or acclimated as the jags. Our whole team seemed to just crater.

As for Bledsoe ... I am of the option that he didn't just crater for no reason. I don't think he was just having a bad day. Something changed on a dime with him today. He looked good, crisp, sharp...then horrible. It is almost like his whole mental process just started failing him. Kinda like when a diabetic's blood sugar gets out of whack, or a person has his bell rung, or gets heat exhaustion. I am wondering if the hit he suffered to the head in the preseason is having anything to do with how he tanked today.

I am not making excuses for Bledsoe, but the Bledsoe we saw in the first two or three series is not the same guy we saw for the rest of the game. I realize Bledsoe is prone to making boneheaded decisions from time to time, but today was different. I think something went way wrong with him.

That's what I noticed too, but like I was saying to my brother in law when they showed Bledsoe throwing on the sideline something is wrong with him. The thing that teed me off was if you know something is wrong why not concede that, he pushed it because he doesn't want Romo to see the field and spark a QB contraversey, but if we would have said is back was stiff(which IMO is what was wrong) he wouldn't be facing the scrutiny of the fans today.

noshame
09-11-2006, 07:28 AM
His back was stiff, but he clearly did not see the defender underneath on his second int.

That has been an ongoing issue.

Bach
09-11-2006, 07:48 AM
Bledsoe is not a clutch QB. He's not going to elevate the rest of the team around him. He'll make some plays and look good at times, but you can always count on him making bad decisions.
In order for us to be successful with him, he has to have plenty of time, a dry football and a great supporting cast. Our OL is average at best and if our defense doesn't step it up then we're going to struggle again.

Zaxor
09-11-2006, 08:36 AM
Dale, it was 'just one game' but it was not a mediocre performance, or even a bad one; it was a truly abysmal one. And the protection was over all nothing as cheeselike as it was last year.

Drew could 'bounce back' for next week's game, he's done so often enough. But there was something qualitatively different about his slowness today - and I know I don't feel that way just because I came fresh from watching Carson Palmer (sigh!) .

His movements looked arthritic on occasion, and he pushed some throws like his elbows were locked. Mentally, you could almost hear him processing..and he still locked on receivers. There's a difference between lack of speed and flat out decrepitness, and what Drew looked today, was just plain OLD.

Then, the accuracy, or lack thereof. That was shocking. Not even a vicinity passer, and on throws where he wasn't touched. Even on bad days, Drew usually has a strong long ball, and zip on the passes that require it.

I've seen plenty of Bledsoe "off days" and this one was different. I also noticed how thin his face was, as tho he had been sick this week and lost some weight. He just struck me as sort of 'infirm'.

And Bill as 'senile'.:D

But seriously, he appeared weakened in some way , like a lifetime of sacks had all of a sudden caught up with him.

After a day like this one, any team's fans would be concerned. Hopefully, there is a physical explanation for the brittle looking performance - like osteoporosis.

Beautiful I couldn't say it any better... plain and simple something was wrong with Bledsoe more so than normal

Zaxor
09-11-2006, 08:37 AM
The season is not lost if we start Romo. If we start Romo, it's cuz BP is trying to SAVE the season. You and I (and everyone else) knows BP wouldn't "throw in the towel" to get a QB some experience. If he were to make the change (he won't) it would be because the thinks Bledsoe has "lost it" and that Romo gives us the best chance to win.

Agreed

Hostile
09-11-2006, 08:38 AM
Bledsoe is not a clutch QB. He's not going to elevate the rest of the team around him. He'll make some plays and look good at times, but you can always count on him making bad decisions.
In order for us to be successful with him, he has to have plenty of time, a dry football and a great supporting cast. Our OL is average at best and if our defense doesn't step it up then we're going to struggle again.I agree with this. It is why I do not place him in the elite category and never have. Is Romo clutch? I think that is yet to be determined and those assuring me of it already, have the wagon in front of the oxen. I don't see it as dissing him to say I want to see evidence before I annoint. I want to see him play. Same thing I've been saying for 3 years.

Doomsday101
09-11-2006, 08:39 AM
Yeah.....but that's what happens when we lose a tough one like today.

Any game that Dallas loses this season expect that. I make no excuses for Bledsoe play yesterday he was off the mark but I don't see Dallas benching Bledsoe because of yesterdays game

Zaxor
09-11-2006, 08:41 AM
There shouldn't be a controversy though. The option is a guy who has not even played a meaningful down. What message does this send the netire team if Bledsoe is benched from 1 bad game?

Let me tell you the biggest problem with switching QBs this soon is though. People dislike Parcells' conservative play calling. You think he's conservative now, watch when he's got to go with a QB who has no skins on the wall.

Losses hit all of us. Usually right in the nads. It's one game.

I knew we could lose this game. I also thought we could win it. I am not going to fear until we can't beat division foes.

On that I agree. If he was hurt, play Romo. I don't think that is sending a message.

Here, here.

Hos didn't he let Bledsoe the rookie air it out?

Hostile
09-11-2006, 08:41 AM
hostile, i'm not really a chicken little. bledsoe is a veteran QB who lost a tough road game. he knows how to adjust and what to do at this point.

however, his QB rating in game one was 45.8.

too many 45.8's, and he is gone. quincy carter did better than that.I'm not excusing his lack of performance CBW. He was awful. No sugar coating it.

We have 2 QBs on this team and someone most of us have never seen play on the Practice Squad. He hasn't played at all at this level. Not even in pre season.

The backup has no time in the saddle of a meaningful game. Translation, for the last 3 years we've fiddled while Rome burned. We're still not learning from the mistake of no one ready to take over for Aikman.

Hostile
09-11-2006, 08:43 AM
Hos didn't he let Bledsoe the rookie air it out?Yes, what does that have to do with the way he has handled Henson, Hutch, Carter, and Romo?

"You could lose the player."

Ring any bells?

Meanwhile other coaches aren't afraid to do what he did then and let their young QBs face live fire.

Sam I Am
09-11-2006, 08:51 AM
But not next Sunday. But if Bled blows against the Skins, Romo will have two weeks to prepare for Game 3.

No kidding. If Bledsoe plays like that again. Parcells has no option but to prepare Romo.

Dave_in-NC
09-11-2006, 08:53 AM
Yes, what does that have to do with the way he has handled Henson, Hutch, Carter, and Romo?

"You could lose the player."

Ring any bells?

Meanwhile other coaches aren't afraid to do what he did then and let their young QBs face live fire.

Three of four of those guys are out of football. Parcells hasn't had any one to throw in the fire, nor have we been in a position to get any one. We were pre- Parcells and that list is what we got.

Zaxor
09-11-2006, 08:56 AM
Yes, what does that have to do with the way he has handled Henson, Hutch, Carter, and Romo?

"You could lose the player."

Ring any bells?

Meanwhile other coaches aren't afraid to do what he did then and let their young QBs face live fire.

LOL I think the "You could lose the player" thing was strickly for Henson...

If Romo performs well Bill will give him more rope if he doesn't perform well Bill will tighten the reins atleast that is how it looks to me

lspain1
09-11-2006, 08:58 AM
No kidding. If Bledsoe plays like that again. Parcells has no option but to prepare Romo.

Bledsoe was VERY bad yesterday and has to accept a pretty big share of the blame for the loss. I hate to admit it, but I think you are correct. We are approaching a fork in the road. It's up to Bledsoe which fork we take.

Chocolate Lab
09-11-2006, 09:06 AM
I know this has turned into a Bledsoe thread, but on the subject of Norm on the postgame show, he and the other guy (afternoon Ticket guy, can't remember his name) made me really miss Wally Lynn and Drew Pearson. I do like Norm in most cases because his heart is in the right place and he tries for serious analysis, but he and his sidekick argued and bickered with almost every caller and spent way too much time on unimportant details of the game rather than the real issues that caused us to lose. That's fine for a three-hour sports talk show on Tuesday, but not immediate postgame discussion. They also got several details of the game wrong and didn't know the rules at times.

Overall it felt to me like a regional presentation (comparing Roy Williams to Hank Blalock when tons of Cowboys fans have no idea who Hank Blalock is) not suitable for a national audience like that of America's Team.

DLCassidy
09-11-2006, 09:24 AM
The Cowboys looked like they were going to run away with this game early. We were simply dominating the Jags. I caught myself thinking wow....we will be up 17 to zip at the end of the first qtr. Bledsoe looked sharp. The defense looked sharp. Everything was going our way.

All of a sudden the tide seemed to change. I am wondering if we were not as well conditioned, or acclimated as the jags. Our whole team seemed to just crater.

As for Bledsoe ... I am of the option that he didn't just crater for no reason. I don't think he was just having a bad day. Something changed on a dime with him today. He looked good, crisp, sharp...then horrible. It is almost like his whole mental process just started failing him. Kinda like when a diabetic's blood sugar gets out of whack, or a person has his bell rung, or gets heat exhaustion. I am wondering if the hit he suffered to the head in the preseason is having anything to do with how he tanked today.

I am not making excuses for Bledsoe, but the Bledsoe we saw in the first two or three series is not the same guy we saw for the rest of the game. I realize Bledsoe is prone to making boneheaded decisions from time to time, but today was different. I think something went way wrong with him.

You may have something there.

Hostile
09-11-2006, 09:25 AM
LOL I think the "You could lose the player" thing was strickly for Henson...

If Romo performs well Bill will give him more rope if he doesn't perform well Bill will tighten the reins atleast that is how it looks to meMy point is, and remains, we aren't getting the chances to see Romo and now if he throws him out there he will do exactly that. Tighten the reins on a team that needs to be turned loose.

wileedog
09-11-2006, 09:30 AM
My point is, and remains, we aren't getting the chances to see Romo and now if he throws him out there he will do exactly that. Tighten the reins on a team that needs to be turned loose.

If Bledsoe continues to play like he did today Bill will (rightfully) not be turning anything loose. If anything he will scale back further to limit Bledsoe's mistakes.

Not saying that Drew will continue to stink, but *if* he does then I would rather see a "tighter" game plan with good execution than the cluster we witnessed yesterday.

You are right that we haven't seen Romo in a real game, but based on what we have seen at the very least I don't think he misses that pass to a wide open TO at the end of the first Q, and that changes the entire complexion of the game.

Hostile
09-11-2006, 09:55 AM
If Bledsoe continues to play like he did today Bill will (rightfully) not be turning anything loose. If anything he will scale back further to limit Bledsoe's mistakes.

Not saying that Drew will continue to stink, but *if* he does then I would rather see a "tighter" game plan with good execution than the cluster we witnessed yesterday.

You are right that we haven't seen Romo in a real game, but based on what we have seen at the very least I don't think he misses that pass to a wide open TO at the end of the first Q, and that changes the entire complexion of the game.I hope you're right. Right now, that's all I have is hope. There's no tangible evidence that we're okay at QB, and I repeat what I've said for 3 weeks now. He still hasn't signed a new deal and we could lose him.

CaptainAmerica
09-11-2006, 10:03 AM
I hope you're right. Right now, that's all I have is hope. There's no tangible evidence that we're okay at QB, and I repeat what I've said for 3 weeks now. He still hasn't signed a new deal and we could lose him.


I've been lurking on this thread and I feel the same way Hos feels about Romo. However, I also believe we know exactly what we are getting with Bledsoe and it's 9-7, 10-6 at best. This much is for sure, we aren't making plane reservations for Miami in February. The scouting report on Bledsoe is the same as it was when we destroyed him and the Bills a few years ago. That's not changing and he's not going to improve, if anything he will continue to decline.

Romo may not be the future, but at some point we have to play a young QB and see if he can play or if we need to make a move for another young QB whether it be by trade or the draft.

We've been talking about this since Vinny was here and we are stuck in the same situation we were then.

kartr
09-11-2006, 10:58 AM
Again I aree with you 100%. I was all for Bledsoe, but it was painfully clear today that he just cannot do well under pressure. He gets anxious, panics, and makes bad decisions. If we do make the playoffs, history as proven that he will collapse under pressure and we will lose by his mistakes. Sorry, but it is T-Mo time.

My point exactly, it's not about one bad game, it's that he plays poorly against quality defenses, which is what you face in the playoffs. What's the point of going 10-6 this year or better when even with 14 years of experience he'll always play poorly in the playoffs. Romo, with zero experience and little talent is not the answer either. We need to bring in a veteran qb and start teaching him our offense so that he can take over if Bledsoe completely tanks or we get to the playoffs and only have Bledsoe as a real option.

kartr
09-11-2006, 11:12 AM
Some of his worst throws came when he had time. He had a bad game. The offensive line didn't play a good game, but didn't play an all out bad game either. At least relative to what I saw last season.

You're absolutely right and the same was true in last years' Seattle and Denver and Oakland games. He had time when he made those poor throws and poor decisions and that's why I've said all along that he lost four games last year. Even in the first Washington game, he threw to the wrong receiver.

Maikeru-sama
09-11-2006, 11:14 AM
My point exactly, it's not about one bad game, it's that he plays poorly against quality defenses, which is what you face in the playoffs. What's the point of going 10-6 this year or better when even with 14 years of experience he'll always play poorly in the playoffs. Romo, with zero experience and little talent is not the answer either. We need to bring in a veteran qb and start teaching him our offense so that he can take over if Bledsoe completely tanks or we get to the playoffs and only have Bledsoe as a real option.

Name me a veteran laying around that is going to be better than Bledsoe. I would much rather start Tony Romo, if we were going to make a change at Quarterback.

Bringing in old Veterans is certainly not the answer.

kartr
09-11-2006, 11:15 AM
I have not problem admitting that whatever little and I do mean little confidence I had in Bledsoe is totally gone.

I do truly believe he will bounce back have some good games, but I firmly believe when it counts most he will deliver another performance like this.

I just do not know how else to put it, but I am sick of the Bledsoe experiment. I would be amazed and gladly eat crow, but I will guarantee you that Bledsoe will never lift a Lombardi trophy.

He can not get us to the promised land.

BTW I have no confidence in Romo either. He is an unknown commodity, but as long as Bledsoe is around that is all he will ever be.

You know, we got some pressure on Leftwich too and he's not very mobile and doesn't have nearly the experience that Bledsoe has nor any receivers as good as Terry or TO, yet he still made plays.

jazzcat22
09-11-2006, 12:06 PM
Today's loss confirmed my worst fear, though. It took just one game to have a controversy -- at least among the fans -- hang over this team's head.

After sitting through a painful loss like today, where the quarterback throws three dumb interceptions, my heart says it's time to bench the QB. The blood gets pumping and you just can't stand these mental errors and you want to see a change.

I know that's probably not the best decision on most levels, especially after one week. My brain is certainly slapping my heart around saying, "C'mon."

But I am now scared -- and maybe it's just the frustration of this loss circling over head -- that this is just the beginning of these types of performances.

He looked so great to start the game. I believe Tru Blue Cowboy said this, but something happened. The rain is a plausible excuse, but it sure seemed like something physically happened to him with all the stretching he was doing.

I want to believe this was a one-time thing and we'll look against the Redskins like we looked the first quarter today. Here's hoping.

I believe the Romo lover's would start a controversey even on 1 INT. I disagree that it was 3 dumb INT's. I say it was 2, the other was just a very good defensive play, even though Bledsoe should compensated for it, but it's hard to do sometimes when you need to decide quick.

Bledsoe usually throws a decent wet ball. He played in a lot of rain in the Northwest. So it was more of an injury related thing than the rain. Any and all QB's have a bad game now and then, let's hope that's what it was. I remember games where Aikman looked horrible, throwing 4 INT's. I don't remember any QB head lynching parties by the fans then.

adbutcher
09-11-2006, 12:21 PM
I'm actually afraid some fans are going to get what they want at some point.
:hammer: I hope I am wrong but if we got to depend on Romo then our season is over.

CanadianCowboysFan
09-11-2006, 12:22 PM
If Bledsoe comes out next week and throws 3 picks again I may be inclined to agree. But the ones calling for Bledsoes head after 1 game are ridiculous IMO

No less ridiculous than those calling for Romo after the first preseason game.

Hostile
09-11-2006, 12:28 PM
No less ridiculous than those calling for Romo after the first preseason game.I think they are the same group overall.

Rush 2112
09-11-2006, 12:30 PM
Bledsoe just had one bad game?

2005.....2nd in sacks, INT's and fumbles.

NE and Buffalo were in a hurry to get rid of him.

At a certain point, a few more games like this and he is the proverbial "progress stopper".

Where there is smoke................

I stand corrected first in fumbles and fumles lost with 17 and 8.

Second in sacks and Int's.