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MichaelWinicki
09-11-2006, 08:43 PM
I sit here watching the Monday night game between the Vikings and Skins and it suddenly strikes me how much different Brad Johnson is as a QB compared to Drew Bledsoe.

Arm strenght? No comparison. Drew has the stronger arm. But I have seen Johnson throw a couple long passes tonight that didn't have Bledsoe's velocity but were relatively accurate... which brings me to...

Accuracy. I was surprised by the graphic that Johnson holds the record for the most consecutive seasons of at least a 60% completion percentage or higher. Watching the guy it's apparent why this is so. He does a terrific job of putting the ball where it needs to be. Accuracy has never been a Bledsoe strength-- and that was before the debacle this past Sunday.

Touch-- honestly I think this is Johnson's big strength he "knows" how much to put on a pass which seems to makes his balls much more catchable thus driving up that completion percentage. Bledsoe's touch on short passes is in my opinion just awful.

Mechanics-- Watching Johnson setup and release the ball you wouldn't think the guy was 36. He still moves pretty well and releases the ball quickly.

Movement within the pocket. Brad Johnson doesn't have "happy feet". He moved smoothly left and right to avoid pressure. Bledsoe moving smoothly? I've yet to see it.

All in all I wonder if we signed the best free-agent QB during the winter of '05.

Chocolate Lab
09-11-2006, 08:46 PM
Oh yeah, Johnson is amazing with his knowledge of the game and awareness. He almost *always* reads the defense properly and throws it to the right man. He's really something, IMO.

I definitely would have taken for us when Tampa let him go, but I thought he might be getting too old... But the guy doesn't seem to age.

ka0tik
09-11-2006, 08:47 PM
Refresh my memory plz. wut other QB was out there?

Clove
09-11-2006, 08:47 PM
I sit here watching the Monday night game between the Vikings and Skins and it suddenly strikes me how much different Brad Johnson is as a QB compared to Drew Bledsoe.

Arm strenght? No comparison. Drew has the stronger arm. But I have seen Johnson throw a couple long passes tonight that didn't have Bledsoe's velocity but were relatively accurate... which brings me to...

Accuracy. I was surprised by the graphic that Johnson holds the record for the most consecutive seasons of at least a 60% completion percentage or higher. Watching the guy it's apparent why this is so. He does a terrific job of putting the ball where it needs to be. Accuracy has never been a Bledsoe strength-- and that was before the debacle this past Sunday.

Touch-- honestly I think this is Johnson's big strength he "knows" how much to put on a pass which seems to makes his balls much more catchable thus driving up that completion percentage. Bledsoe's touch on short passes is in my opinion just awful.

Mechanics-- Watching Johnson setup and release the ball you wouldn't think the guy was 36. He still moves pretty well and releases the ball quickly.

Movement within the pocket. Brad Johnson doesn't have "happy feet". He moved smoothly left and right to avoid pressure. Bledsoe moving smoothly? I've yet to see it.

All in all I wonder if we signed the best free-agent QB during the winter of '05.Accuracy is the key - Romo has this big time....not that I'm insinuating anything.. ;)

MichaelWinicki
09-11-2006, 08:48 PM
Refresh my memory plz. wut other QB was out there?

Ahhhh... Brad Johnson?

MichaelWinicki
09-11-2006, 08:49 PM
Accuracy is the key - Romo has this big time....not that I'm insinuating anything.. ;)

I agree. To me accuracy is far more important than arm strength.

WoodysGirl
09-11-2006, 08:51 PM
Johnson's a solid-enuff QB. I wouldn't have been TOO unhappy had the 'boys signed him. But man he's thrown some floaters into triple coverage that was questionable...especially when he's had to go deep. There's been some plays in this game where I thought DBs w/better hands would have INT'd them.

He's the quintessential West Coast QB.

Dale
09-11-2006, 08:52 PM
I agree. To me accuracy is far more important than arm strength.

It's funny because I ALWAYS look at Johnson as an underrated player. In fact, I actually felt since late last season that Minnesota should start Johnson over Culpepper after the way he led that team after taking over.

Yet, whenever his name is mentioned, it is I that underrates him -- despite my feeling that every one else does the same.

ka0tik
09-11-2006, 08:52 PM
Ahhhh... Brad Johnson?

Other than him...:laugh2:

BlueStar22
09-11-2006, 08:53 PM
He is the poster boy for the Bus-Driver. He makes smart decisions, doesn't turn it over, and is efficient with the ball. Bill has wanted a bus driver but no guy he has had here possessed any of those 3 qualities.

Tripod
09-11-2006, 08:54 PM
I agree. To me accuracy is far more important than arm strength.
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Johnson is 14 - 29 that's under 50% completion rate. Aren't we overstating things here a bit?

Clove
09-11-2006, 08:55 PM
Someone on the post game show of the INDY Gints game last night, asked one of Peytons receivers about how Peyton throws, and he said he throws a catchable ball.

This means that he doesn't have a bunch of fire on the ball... Arm strength is a bit overrated.

BlueStar22
09-11-2006, 08:56 PM
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Johnson is 14 - 29 that's under 50% completion rate. Aren't we overstating things here a bit?
How many has he just made the smart move and just thrown away? At least 3 or 4.

Clove
09-11-2006, 08:57 PM
He is the poster boy for the Bus-Driver. He makes smart decisions, doesn't turn it over, and is efficient with the ball. Bill has wanted a bus driver but no guy he has had here possessed any of those 3 qualities.Parcells was too busy trying to hunt down all of his old players to notice anyone else.

MichaelWinicki
09-11-2006, 08:57 PM
How many has he just made the smart move and just thrown away? At least 3 or 4.


Then you have that Vikings' wideout that has dropped what 2 or 3 balls including a sure TD?

Hostile
09-11-2006, 08:59 PM
Now he's a bus driver.

Tripod
09-11-2006, 09:00 PM
I stand corrected. The guys a Pro Bowler.

BlueStar22
09-11-2006, 09:00 PM
Now he's a bus driver.
It's not a bad thing when you have someone that's good at it. Hell he was one when he won the SB in Tampa.

Hostile
09-11-2006, 09:01 PM
It's not a bad thing when you have someone that's good at it. Hell he was one when he won the SB in Tampa.I still don't want one and never will.

Crown Royal
09-11-2006, 09:05 PM
Brad Johnson has been one of my favorite QBs for years, one of the more underrated guys in the league.

You don't built a franchise around him, but you can build a franchise with him. He's a very good player.

Tripod
09-11-2006, 09:07 PM
By the way MW how can Johnson be the Anti-Bledsoe? That's your moniker.

MichaelWinicki
09-11-2006, 09:09 PM
By the way MW how can Johnson be the Anti-Bledsoe? That's your moniker.


:D

My goal is to rid the country of all over-rated football players... hey it's job security. ;)

wileedog
09-11-2006, 09:12 PM
Now he's a bus driver.

In the dictionary, there is a picture of Brad Johnson next to bus driver.

I don't mean that in a bad way, he is the ultimate in manage the game, take the safe play, make a throw when he needs to.

I know some consdier it a bad word around here, but with the right team I'd take him.Its just that kind of league now.

Hostile
09-11-2006, 09:13 PM
In the dictionary, there is a picture of Brad Johnson next to bus driver.

I don't mean that in a bad way, he is the ultimate in manage the game, take the safe play, make a throw when he needs to.

I know some consdier it a bad word around here, but with the right team I'd take him.Its just that kind of league now.I don't mean it in a bad way either. I just don't want one except as a backup.

JMead
09-11-2006, 09:25 PM
I don't mean it in a bad way either. I just don't want one except as a backup.

While Brad Johnson is solid and probably one of the more underrated QBs in the league... He has had his fair share of bad games aswell.

I swear some of you guys never watched football before or have a very very very selective memory.

wileedog
09-11-2006, 09:29 PM
While Brad Johnson is solid and probably one of the more underrated QBs in the league... He has had his fair share of bad games aswell.

I swear some of you guys never watched football before or have a very very very selective memory.

Cripes, every QB has bad games. What's your point?

Fact is Johnson is more than servicable, and in general he takes care of the football, and won't lose games. Even comes up with the occasional winner. He is the penultimate bus driver.

On the right team, where the defense and running game is solid he can win a SB for you, because he manages the game well. That's all anyone is saying.

Get off the high horse.

lspain1
09-11-2006, 09:29 PM
I don't know about the 'bus driver' image. Earlier tonight a skin caught him by the right arm on a pass rush. Johnson switched the ball to his left hand and threw it to the crossing route...on the money. The receiver dropped it but the play was so heads up it was amazing. Our guy didn't have that kind of awareness this weekend. Maybe he should have tried it left handed.:p:

TruBlueCowboy
09-11-2006, 09:31 PM
Simple fact is if Brad Johnson had been our QB yesteday, it probably would have been a win. :bang2:

It wasn't just Bledsoe but me thinks Johnson could have nailed that gimme TD to TO that would have put us up 17-0 and in the driver's seat.

Cbz40
09-11-2006, 09:38 PM
Simple fact is if Brad Johnson had been our QB yesteday, it probably would have been a win. :bang2:

It wasn't just Bledsoe but me thinks Johnson could have nailed that gimme TD to TO that would have put us up 17-0 and in the driver's seat.


Me thinks so too. ;)

Da Hammer
09-11-2006, 09:42 PM
Just plain and simple, Johnson knows what he has to do to win the game. He wont give you huge numbers but at the end of the day he will give you a great chance of winning the game

SuspectCorner
09-11-2006, 09:49 PM
johnson was tough on 3rd down. but he got away with a few tonight. they all do.

and some days more than others.

sunday was the worst i've seen bledsoe play as a cowboy. but, unless he has some injury i'm unaware of, he'll prolly have a fine game next week.

junk
09-11-2006, 09:50 PM
It's funny because I ALWAYS look at Johnson as an underrated player. In fact, I actually felt since late last season that Minnesota should start Johnson over Culpepper after the way he led that team after taking over.

Yet, whenever his name is mentioned, it is I that underrates him -- despite my feeling that every one else does the same.

If one word could describe Johnson's career, it would be underrated.

ZeroClub
09-11-2006, 09:55 PM
Johnson has moxie.

Relaxed moxie.

TruBlueCowboy
09-11-2006, 09:55 PM
Johnson has moxie.

Relaxed moxie.
:lmao2: :lmao2:

Bob Sacamano
09-11-2006, 09:56 PM
Cripes, every QB has bad games. What's your point?

:eek: and yet everyone wants BLedsoe replaced after one