View Full Version : Bandwagon fans giving up on Bledsoe...
SloppyOctopuss
09-11-2006, 09:52 PM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
Hostile
09-11-2006, 09:59 PM
Great post.
wileedog
09-11-2006, 09:59 PM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them too. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team.
I'll be honest, I don't give a squat about anything you wrote. And to be sure I have supported Bledsoe strongly in the past.
My concern is in the here and now, and what we have is a 34 year old QB who has gotten pummeled in his career.
What other QBs did in the league this week doesn't matter. How good Jax is really doesn't matter, many of Beldsoe's throws were just flat out boneheaded. Houston would have picked them off. The lack of pressure on Drew is more of an indictment of him than anything else.
I like Drew more than most here, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the atrocity he committed yesterday. That was a beyond terrible game, and pointing out 4 other QBs who didn't play well has nothing to do with anything.
Drew's gotta lot to prove this coming week. Here's to hoping he does.
Bob Sacamano
09-11-2006, 10:00 PM
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
we didn't really struggle running the football, and our pass-blocking wasn't that good, that the only 2 sacks allowed would lead you to believe, but great post nonetheless
Cochese
09-11-2006, 10:03 PM
Look for my post- 'dreamers still think Bledsoe can amount to something' coming soon to a message board near you.
Bob Sacamano
09-11-2006, 10:04 PM
Look for my post- 'dreamers still think Bledsoe can amount to something' coming soon to a message board near you.
read mine, franchise QBs just don't fall into your lap, actually, that's it :D
so until we find our franchise Qb, which takes time, y'all are going to have to shut up and take Bledsoe for what he is, cuz there aint much better out there
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
What? Reason on the cowboyszone after a loss? :eek:
SuspectCorner
09-11-2006, 10:06 PM
Look for my post- 'dreamers still think Bledsoe can amount to something' coming soon to a message board near you.
if it's authored by the same mind that came up with the username "JustSayNotoTO" - i'll be passing on it.
and thanks for the advanced warning.
Cbz40
09-11-2006, 10:07 PM
Read mine: "If We Would have Drafted a QB in every Draft for the Last 10 years maybe we would have gotten Lucky"
SloppyOctopuss
09-11-2006, 10:07 PM
I'll be honest, I don't give a squat about anything you wrote. And to be sure I have supported Bledsoe strongly in the past.
My concern is in the here and now, and what we have is a 34 year old QB who has gotten pummeled in his career.
What other QBs did in the league this week doesn't matter. How good Jax is really doesn't matter, many of Beldsoe's throws were just flat out boneheaded. Houston would have picked them off. The lack of pressure on Drew is more of an indictment of him than anything else.
I like Drew more than most here, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the atrocity he committed yesterday. That was a beyond terrible game, and pointing out 4 other QBs who didn't play well has nothing to do with anything.
Drew's gotta lot to prove this coming week. Here's to hoping he does.
You hit the nail on the head with the last sentence...yes Bledsoe is going to have to come up big this week to quell the flames.
I'm not going to sit here and play the role of 'nothing was Bledsoe's fault', but it's foolish too look past some of the same issues from last season that reared their ugly head again yesterday:
1) Missed field goals
2) sporadic running game
3) inconsistent play calling
4) inability to create pressure defensively on a consistent basis
I'm honestly more concerned about the defense right now than I am Bledsoe or the offense.
The30YardSlant
09-11-2006, 10:08 PM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
Yeah, because we are completely dissapointed with Bledsoe, a supposed "HOF QB", for sucking hardcore despite all the weapons a QB could ever want, we are bandwagon fans. Great logic :rolleyes:
Just for the record, Eli Manning looked much better than Bledsoe yesterday.
The Jaguars were 12-4 because they played creampuffs all year they had two quality wins all seaosn, and then lived off of beating on NFC West teams and scrubs of the AFC.
Hasslebeck doesnt have a history of horrible decisions and zero pocket presence when under pressure
jobberone
09-11-2006, 10:09 PM
I liked the post so I guess I give a squatt. No matter how Bledsoe performs this year what you said are facts.
theogt
09-11-2006, 10:10 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how not liking Bledsoe means someone is a "bandwagon" fan.
Bob Sacamano
09-11-2006, 10:13 PM
Read mine: "If We Would have Drafted a QB in every Draft for the Last 10 years maybe we would have gotten Lucky"
you have a book out too? nice
Kilyin
09-11-2006, 10:15 PM
I find it absolutely hilarious that anyone who'd make a thread like this..
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61481
...has the nerve to sit at his keyboard and call someone else a "bandwagon fan". And your post was made before we even played a regular season game.
Go crawl back into your hole.
SloppyOctopuss
09-11-2006, 10:15 PM
Yeah, because we are completely dissapointed with Bledsoe, a supposed "HOF QB", for sucking hardcore despite all the weapons a QB could ever want, we are bandwagon fans. Great logic :rolleyes:
Just for the record, Eli Manning looked much better than Bledsoe yesterday.
The Jaguars were 12-4 because they played creampuffs all year they had two quality wins all seaosn, and then lived off of beating on NFC West teams and scrubs of the AFC.
Hasslebeck doesnt have a history of horrible decisions and zero pocket presence when under pressure
We got off to a 10 - 0 and then Parcells decided to play like...well Parcells. I have never been a fan of his, sure he has an impressive resume and a couple of world titles...but he's too old school and refuses to play anyway but tight/ball control type of games. Why did it take so long to find Glenn deep or TO for that TD?
Eli Manning still lost, and was booed....in fact I was at a sports bar watching Tom Brady get booed at home when Buffalo was pounding them early on. Delhomme, Culpepper and Plummer are considered top flight QB's as well and they all were pathetic yesterday (or thursday in the case of culpepper).
Hasslebach don't have a history of horrible desicions, what did he do in the superbowl?
The point is all QB's have bad games....let's just hope that this was Bledsoe's worst as a Cowboy.
Cochese
09-11-2006, 10:16 PM
I find it absolutely hilarious that anyone who'd make a thread like this..
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61481
...has the nerve to sit at his keyboard and call someone else a "bandwagon fan". And your post was made before we even played a regular season game.
Go crawl back into your hole.
Good call, I thought this guy started that thread, but you went one step further and actually dug it up. Should tell you what he knows about the QB position.
theogt
09-11-2006, 10:17 PM
We got off to a 10 - 0 and then Parcells decided to play like...well Parcells. I have never been a fan of his, sure he has an impressive resume and a couple of world titles...but he's too old school and refuses to play anyway but tight/ball control type of games. Why did it take so long to find Glenn deep or TO for that TD?
Eli Manning still lost, and was booed....in fact I was at a sports bar watching Tom Brady get booed at home when Buffalo was pounding them early on. Delhomme, Culpepper and Plummer are considered top flight QB's as well and they all were pathetic yesterday (or thursday in the case of culpepper).
Hasslebach don't have a history of horrible desicions, what did he do in the superbowl?
The point is all QB's have bad games....let's just hope that this was Bledsoe's worst as a Cowboy.Oh, so it was Parcells that told Bledsoe to throw like crap? You should get on the horn, because this is breaking news.
wileedog
09-11-2006, 10:17 PM
You hit the nail on the head with the last sentence...yes Bledsoe is going to have to come up big this week to quell the flames.
I'm not going to sit here and play the role of 'nothing was Bledsoe's fault', but it's foolish too look past some of the same issues from last season that reared their ugly head again yesterday:
1) Missed field goals
2) sporadic running game
3) inconsistent play calling
4) inability to create pressure defensively on a consistent basis
I'm honestly more concerned about the defense right now than I am Bledsoe or the offense.
None of the issues you bring up are nearly as important as Bledsoe missing TO for a sure TD at the end of the 1st Q, or throwing a terrible pick at the end of the 1st half. Everything else would have fallen into place without those two events.
The last minute drive attempt was beyond putrid too.
I'm not laying it all on Bledsoe's feet - just most of it. Because a bunch of other circumstances never happen if Drew even plays average, which he did not.
I'm honeslty most concerned with Bledsoe. If that is the level of play he is going to give, or even close to it, when the pressure is relatively benign, then our defense will spend the majority of the time on the field anyway, and are screwed.
SloppyOctopuss
09-11-2006, 10:17 PM
I find it absolutely hilarious that anyone who'd make a thread like this..
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61481
...has the nerve to sit at his keyboard and call someone else a "bandwagon fan". And your post was made before we even played a regular season game.
Go crawl back into your hole.
I stand by my statements...Parcells is the real guilty party and needs to be held accountable.
The30YardSlant
09-11-2006, 10:18 PM
Great post.
Shocking, this is not :rolleyes:
SloppyOctopuss
09-11-2006, 10:19 PM
Oh, so it was Parcells that told Bledsoe to throw like crap? You should get on the horn, because this is breaking news.
Parcells played his style of football and LOST......instead of going for the jugular. He always live and die with the ball control type of philosophy.
wileedog
09-11-2006, 10:19 PM
We got off to a 10 - 0 and then Parcells decided to play like...well Parcells..
I wish Parcells had been more conservative with Bledose playing like a high school freshman. Stop trying to deflect the blame.
wileedog
09-11-2006, 10:20 PM
Parcells played his style of football and LOST......instead of going for the jugular. He always live and die with the ball control type of philosophy.
Whywould any coach go for the jugular with a QB who couldn't hit the broad side of Andy Reid?
Cbz40
09-11-2006, 10:22 PM
Not a thing wrong with this thread. Although I may not agree with everything he still has the right to express his thoughts.
His opinion is just as important as anyones.
Cochese
09-11-2006, 10:22 PM
Parcells played his style of football and LOST......instead of going for the jugular. He always live and die with the ball control type of philosophy.
Yea, its not like a ball control offense has ever won the Super Bowl before....oh wait.
Bob Sacamano
09-11-2006, 10:23 PM
Yea, its not like a ball control offense has ever won the Super Bowl before....oh wait.
ok guys, which is it? do we want a ball-control offense, or an aggressive one? sheesh
BigDFan5
09-11-2006, 10:23 PM
Read mine: "If We Would have Drafted a QB in every Draft for the Last 10 years maybe we would have gotten Lucky"
read mine "1400 B.C.: The life and times of CBZ40"
:laugh1:
Cbz40
09-11-2006, 10:26 PM
read mine "1400 B.C. the life and times of CBZ40"
:laugh1:
I had fun in those days......those caves were cozy, convenient, & cheap. :D
BigDFan5
09-11-2006, 10:27 PM
I had fun in those days......those caves were cozy, convenient, & cheap. :D
and when you wanted a woman you just clubbed her over the head and drug her to the cave :laugh2:
Cbz40
09-11-2006, 10:28 PM
and when you wanted a woman you just clubbed her over the head and drug her to the cave :laugh2:
Shame.....shame
BigDFan5
09-11-2006, 10:29 PM
Shame.....shame
You are saying shame because you think its a shame its not allowed anymore arent you?
Bob Sacamano
09-11-2006, 10:29 PM
cbz didn't need a club, he had rugged good looks and charm
keyword: had, now he's all wrinkly lol
SuspectCorner
09-11-2006, 10:30 PM
None of the issues you bring up are nearly as important as Bledsoe missing TO for a sure TD at the end of the 1st Q, or throwing a terrible pick at the end of the 1st half. Everything else would have fallen into place without those two events.
The last minute drive attempt was beyond putrid too.
I'm not laying it all on Bledsoe's feet - just most of it. Because a bunch of other circumstances never happen if Drew even plays average, which he did not.
I'm honeslty most concerned with Bledsoe. If that is the level of play he is going to give, or even close to it, when the pressure is relatively benign, then our defense will spend the majority of the time on the field anyway, and are screwed.
so bledsoe had a bad day? so you're saying he's the only one who did?
jax big WRs were eating up T-New and Henry. they were taking some beatdowns. so where are the posters whining about them.
or is the right to have a bad game only reserved for players not named Bledsoe?
i watched the game. it was a team effort.
lspain1
09-11-2006, 10:33 PM
I stand by my statements...Parcells is the real guilty party and needs to be held accountable.
I'll stand by my statements:
1. Bledsoe played badly (perhaps his worst game in a Cowboy uniform).
2. The defense did not come through when it needed to.
3. Penalties and sloppy play hurt us badly.
4. It was a team loss.
All of those things being said, Bledsoe's poor execution and errors of judgement were obvious and glaring. I haven't said it is time to throw him out, but he must improve if we are to have any chance this year.
Bob Sacamano
09-11-2006, 10:35 PM
I'll stand by my statements:
1. Bledsoe played badly (perhaps his worst game in a Cowboy uniform).
2. The defense did not come through when it needed to.
3. Penalties and sloppy play hurt us badly.
4. It was a team loss.
All of those things being said, Bledsoe's poor execution and errors of judgement were obvious and glaring. I haven't said it is time to throw him out, but he must improve if we are to have any chance this year.
:hammer:
wileedog
09-11-2006, 10:39 PM
so bledsoe had a bad day? so you're saying he's the only one who did?
jax big WRs were eating up T-New and Henry. they were taking some beatdowns. so where are the posters whining about them.
or is the right to have a bad game only reserved for players not named Bledsoe?
i watched the game. it was a team effort.
The game is completely different if Bledsoe hits TO for that touchdown.
The game is completely different without the pick at the end of the half that lets the Jags tie it up.
I'm not syaing no one else is to blame. I'm saying if one guy just screwed up a little less then a lot of the other mistakes don't compound themselves into a loss.
I can't see any other way the game goes as it does if Bledsoe is at least average.
I'm usually all for the "team loss" argument. But nobody came close to screwing up as badly as Bledsoe. Even the kicker.
SloppyOctopuss
09-11-2006, 10:42 PM
so bledsoe had a bad day? so you're saying he's the only one who did?
jax big WRs were eating up T-New and Henry. they were taking some beatdowns. so where are the posters whining about them.
or is the right to have a bad game only reserved for players not named Bledsoe?
i watched the game. it was a team effort.
The QB is the leader of the and always going to take a bulk of the blame after a loss....but yes it's funny that nobody is calling out T-New and Henry for getting abused by mediorce receivers. So much for needing Jimmy Smith in jacksonville huh? And if that was a sign of things to come we are going to need Bledsoe, TO and the rest of the offense to win us a lot of games this year if we can't make a stop on defense.
SuspectCorner
09-11-2006, 10:43 PM
The game is completely different if Bledsoe hits TO for that touchdown.
The game is completely different without the pick at the end of the half that lets the Jags tie it up.
I'm not syaing no one else is to blame. I'm saying if one guy just screwed up a little less then a lot of the other mistakes don't compound themselves into a loss.
I can't see any other way the game goes as it does if Bledsoe is at least average.
I'm usually all for the "team loss" argument. But nobody came close to screwing up as badly as Bledsoe. Even the kicker.
there was a stretch where leftwich was hitting jones so frequently even I knew he was gonna be the target. and still they were completing them. they finally handed off to fred taylor outta sheer boredom.
wileedog
09-11-2006, 10:46 PM
there was a stretch where leftwich was hitting jones so frequently even I knew he was gonna be the target. and still they were completing them. they finally handed off to fred taylor outta sheer boredom.
Would it have mattered had it been 17-0 at the end of the 1st Q?
theogt
09-11-2006, 10:46 PM
Parcells played his style of football and LOST......instead of going for the jugular. He always live and die with the ball control type of philosophy.He sure tried to go for the jugular with that pass over the middle to TO. He sure tried to go up 17-0. Unfortunately the QB's accuracy was atrocious.
ghst187
09-11-2006, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE=SloppyOctopuss]Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
[QUOTE]
1) Jax rolled up a nice record beating a lot of cellar dwellers. They lost when they played Tier 1 teams. Jax is the best of the tier 2 teams. They are not contenders. They will make the playoffs, but they are some playmakers away from winning a SB. Got to play Houston 2x, Tenn x2, San Fran, Arizona, Cleveland, Baltimore, and the Jets. One of the easiest schedules in the league last year. Not saying they aren't a good team, but they ain't elite.
2) Hasselback doesn't and never had any WRs, which is why they lost the SB. We have TO, TG, and Witten. If Hasselback had those weapons...
he'd also have the expectations we have of Bledsoe. No QB in the league has those kind of weapons. Bledsoe throws only 6 to TO and 3 to Jax.
3) Plummer is kinda like Bledsoe anyway. Delhomme was without Smith. Eli didn't look too bad. Culpepper, hasn't ever been that great without Moss. Of course, if ANY of those guys had TO, TG, and Witten, we'd expect them to roll up some stats.
4) Only sacked twice...it was obvious he was getting rid of it faster than in the past...the tradeoff was poor decisions. How many times was he hurried, hit as he threw, or had a pass altered?
The bottomline is that we have TO, TG, and Witten. Even if it was QC starting at QB for us, we'd expect less than 3 INTs. A lot of it was Bledsoe's fault, a lot of it was horrid, predictable play calling.
I think I speak for all the furious Cowboy brethren when I say the most frustrating things are:
1) We are the Dallas Cowboys. We have high expectations every year. Even moreso now with TO, Vanderjerk, and the great players we have on defense.
2) This was a game that we could've and should've won. A game a team with SB aspirations should win.
3) Our playcalling got too conservative and predictable...again
4) We missed an easy kick....again
5) Our defense went soft late...again
6) #'s 3-5 are EXACTLY the same problems we had last year
7) We have TO, TG, and Witten. No one should be able to stop us.
8) We have TO, TG, and Witten. No one can cover any of them.
9) We have TO, TG, and Witten. For the love of all that is good why can't we get them the ball more?
SloppyOctopuss
09-11-2006, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=SloppyOctopuss]Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
[QUOTE]
1) Jax rolled up a nice record beating a lot of cellar dwellers. They lost when they played Tier 1 teams. Jax is the best of the tier 2 teams. They are not contenders. They will make the playoffs, but they are some playmakers away from winning a SB. Got to play Houston 2x, Tenn x2, San Fran, Arizona, Cleveland, Baltimore, and the Jets. One of the easiest schedules in the league last year. Not saying they aren't a good team, but they ain't elite.
2) Hasselback doesn't and never had any WRs, which is why they lost the SB. We have TO, TG, and Witten. If Hasselback had those weapons...
he'd also have the expectations we have of Bledsoe. No QB in the league has those kind of weapons. Bledsoe throws only 6 to TO and 3 to Jax.
3) Plummer is kinda like Bledsoe anyway. Delhomme was without Smith. Eli didn't look too bad. Culpepper, hasn't ever been that great without Moss. Of course, if ANY of those guys had TO, TG, and Witten, we'd expect them to roll up some stats.
4) Only sacked twice...it was obvious he was getting rid of it faster than in the past...the tradeoff was poor decisions. How many times was he hurried, hit as he threw, or had a pass altered?
The bottomline is that we have TO, TG, and Witten. Even if it was QC starting at QB for us, we'd expect less than 3 INTs. A lot of it was Bledsoe's fault, a lot of it was horrid, predictable play calling.
I think I speak for all the furious Cowboy brethren when I say the most frustrating things are:
1) We are the Dallas Cowboys. We have high expectations every year. Even moreso now with TO, Vanderjerk, and the great players we have on defense.
2) This was a game that we could've and should've won. A game a team with SB aspirations should win.
3) Our playcalling got too conservative and predictable...again
4) We missed an easy kick....again
5) Our defense went soft late...again
6) #'s 3-5 are EXACTLY the same problems we had last year
7) We have TO, TG, and Witten. No one should be able to stop us.
8) We have TO, TG, and Witten. No one can cover any of them.
9) We have TO, TG, and Witten. For the love of all that is good why can't we get them the ball more?
Appreciate the response, and you can spin it anyway you like...but facts are facts. Yes Jax was 12-4 against a somewhat easy schedule considering they played the nfc west and 2 weaker division opponents twice....we finished 9-7 and could have very easily had their record or better playing a much more difficult schedule if we didn't have the TEAM problems you listed....
The bottom line it's a TEAM effort and yesterday we fell apart after a strong start....let this be a wake up call to every player, fan and coach affiliated with this organization. Time for Bledsoe to bounce back strong...just think about what he did in only one game with TO. By midseason, nobody will be stopping our offense!
Apollo Creed
09-11-2006, 11:04 PM
Bledsoe basically has to be a bus driver... With the amount of time he spends in the pocket, he should easily be able to check the ball down. Not hit defenders in the chest/hands with the ball (which he did 5 times yesterday, 2 being dropped) All he has to do is not make mistakes, but yesterday.. yeah.. well... we all know the story.
Big Dakota
09-11-2006, 11:05 PM
You hit the nail on the head with the last sentence...yes Bledsoe is going to have to come up big this week to quell the flames.
I'm not going to sit here and play the role of 'nothing was Bledsoe's fault', but it's foolish too look past some of the same issues from last season that reared their ugly head again yesterday:
1) Missed field goals
2) sporadic running game
3) inconsistent play calling
4) inability to create pressure defensively on a consistent basis
I'm honestly more concerned about the defense right now than I am Bledsoe or the offense.
I agree. DB is has much to prove and takes much of the blame here, but where was this supposed dominant D? 1 sack from Ratlif and 24 unanswered points? Gotta do better then that. Coach Joe A was on "Talking Cowboys" today and he said it was the turnovers and the D not coming up big when they needed to. There is plenty of blame to go round. Add Flo and Colombo to the mix and we have several areas that need to improve.
JMead
09-12-2006, 01:01 AM
You can blame timing and being unfamiliar with each other on those throws to TO. Bledsoe doesnt know how TO likes to run routes and it was obvious he underestimated his speed.
It will take 1 or 2 more weeks for them to start to mesh.
Jake0
09-12-2006, 02:26 AM
Arguing by exception is lame, Badsoe cannot take this team to the next level without major changes to the team's make up (i.e. not this year). The line is not a dominant line and you cannot pick up every blitzer every play. Peyton is not known for his mobility, but he can still roll out if necessary (badsoe cannot AT ALL, the play is already dead if he even begins to) and even he with the solid colts oline allows blitzers to get by. That forces Peyton to have to react and he either moves a bit or makes a quick decision, badsoe can't move at all and his quick decision throws are very bad.
Therefore the only strategy needed to beat the cowboys with Bledsoe at the helm despite all the weapons they have on offense is ---> blitz bledsoe. Any slight discomfort to him means bad decisions and no deep balls. Blitzing also means a stacked box much of the time and stalls runs. Bad decisions leads to 3 and outs/Turnovers after 1-2 plays on the first series which leads to a tired defense. The defense starts sucking because Badsoe is keeping them on the field for an eternity. The entire team is brought down because of the quarterback (run game, receiver stats, defense)
Really now, badsoe can't even do a simple sidestep to avoid a DT that is pushing a guard back into him. He just stands there like a retard trying to chuck the ball over their head at the latest time possible. Any decent QB takes a sidestep while still keeping their eyes over the field. Romo's style is better for what this offense is equipped with, period.
By the way, those QBs you mention that had atrocious games yesterday all have solid histories to say it was a random thing. Plummer might be an exception since he was known a bit for making bad decisions, but at least he's mobile. Last season he made very few errors. Eli's game was not nearly as bad as badsoe's and he's still learning, not a 10+ year vet. Delhomme has a good history and was missing steve smith. Culpepper is coming off an injury and is adjusting to a new team. Badsoe has no real excuse to go by, same ole' ****, easily rattled, been that way for many years now.
Badsoe gets the skins game next week to show he's capable. If he has a similar performance, get Romo as ready as possible over the bye week and through the tennessee/philly/texans games so that he'll hopefully be ready for the tough stretch that ensues afterwards.
Zaxor
09-12-2006, 02:33 AM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
1) Last year..heck they maybe 1-15 this year who knows
2) What is Hasselback's history?
3) Plummer (LOL) he couldn't even play for AZ... Delhomme threw just 1 int and did not have all his weapons on the field...Eli had 1 int and an 88+%QBR...Culpepper threw 2 ints but is coming back from a severe knee injury and is learning a new system....I think all can be legit excuses...well... except Plummer but we knew he was shaky anyway didn't we.
Bledsoe on the other hand threw 3 ints and that was luck as it should have been upwards of 5... Bledsoe has Terry Glenn, Terrell Owens, Jason Witten and a host of others that can and will catch most passes thrown their way...Let's not be so blind in our homerism that we cannot state facts like Bledsoe sucked...because he did
4) which makes the ints and piss poor accuracy even more unacceptable
there are no "wake up calls" in this league...that is a useless cliche from the 40's & 50's and is no longer if it ever was pertinent...
lets look at what we do know and not speculation as in predicting Jax's record and such...
this team started out of the blocks ok...but somethings started going wrong and this team was unable to adjust... both on offense and defense....is this coaching?...it might be that the better team won yesterday but that just doesn't sit right as the mistakes and poor qb play cost us this game...without those I think this team wins...
and not so much fact as feel but this team just doesn't play with passion and fire which is my preferance as I believe it is conducive to producing wins and sustained winning
Zaxor
09-12-2006, 02:46 AM
Arguing by exception is lame, Badsoe cannot take this team to the next level without major changes to the team's make up (i.e. not this year). The line is not a dominant line and you cannot pick up every blitzer every play. Peyton is not known for his mobility, but he can still roll out if necessary (badsoe cannot AT ALL, the play is already dead if he even begins to) and even he with the solid colts oline allows blitzers to get by. That forces Peyton to have to react and he either moves a bit or makes a quick decision, badsoe can't move at all and his quick decision throws are very bad.
Therefore the only strategy needed to beat the cowboys with Bledsoe at the helm despite all the weapons they have on offense is ---> blitz bledsoe. Any slight discomfort to him means bad decisions and no deep balls. Blitzing also means a stacked box much of the time and stalls runs. Bad decisions leads to 3 and outs/Turnovers after 1-2 plays on the first series which leads to a tired defense. The defense starts sucking because Badsoe is keeping them on the field for an eternity. The entire team is brought down because of the quarterback (run game, receiver stats, defense)
Really now, badsoe can't even do a simple sidestep to avoid a DT that is pushing a guard back into him. He just stands there like a retard trying to chuck the ball over their head at the latest time possible. Any decent QB takes a sidestep while still keeping their eyes over the field. Romo's style is better for what this offense is equipped with, period.
By the way, those QBs you mention that had atrocious games yesterday all have solid histories to say it was a random thing. Plummer might be an exception since he was known a bit for making bad decisions, but at least he's mobile. Last season he made very few errors. Eli's game was not nearly as bad as badsoe's and he's still learning, not a 10+ year vet. Delhomme has a good history and was missing steve smith. Culpepper is coming off an injury and is adjusting to a new team. Badsoe has no real excuse to go by, same ole' ****, easily rattled, been that way for many years now.
Badsoe gets the skins game next week to show he's capable. If he has a similar performance, get Romo as ready as possible over the bye week and through the tennessee/philly/texans games so that he'll hopefully be ready for the tough stretch that ensues afterwards.
I agree
Zaxor
09-12-2006, 08:23 AM
Shame.....shame
LOL :lmao2:
chinch
09-12-2006, 08:34 AM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
Lame rationalization.
Last year was last year... who the Jags beat and when is irrelevant. Thanks to Drew's ineptitude we were tied 10-10 at half INSTEAD of up 17-0.
#4 is especially sad as he was sacked 2x but made BONEHEADED throws rushing passes even when he wasn't in peril of a sack. His throws to end the game was pathetic.
He'll bounceback and tease fans again but his decision making process has gone in reverse... something you can see even Tuna has realized by his choice of words.
DipChit
09-12-2006, 08:41 AM
No matter what all else went wrong in that game, it was the epitome of a bad game for Bledsoe. Wasnt the type where he made a bunch of great throws but then still jacked it up by throwing a pick or 2 at inopportune times.
He looked "bad" even on his "good" plays. Thats the part of it where theres no real to reason to think it will continue. If it does, dont worry, he'll be sat down soon enough.
patfoley32
09-12-2006, 08:45 AM
Lay off drew for this week anyways. Jax is a underrated team. If you would watch other games u would notice that jax gives manning fits every year and always hangs in there with indy they jsut cant score agaisnt them. Last year they made hasselbeck look foolish. In the playoffs last year they made brady look bad until leftwhic started turing it over giveing the pats prime postion.
They have to stick with quick passes that were so effective the first few series. Also take away jj nice td run the running game was a non factor. The o line was bad and exposed what we alreay know pressure and beat up drew hell make mistakes.
Doomsday101
09-12-2006, 09:26 AM
Drew had a bad game and is taking the heat for it, it comes with the job. I have confidence that Bledsoe will bounce back and show people why he is our starting QB.
Big Dakota
09-12-2006, 09:30 AM
Arguing by exception is lame, Badsoe cannot take this team to the next level without major changes to the team's make up (i.e. not this year). The line is not a dominant line and you cannot pick up every blitzer every play. Peyton is not known for his mobility, but he can still roll out if necessary (badsoe cannot AT ALL, the play is already dead if he even begins to) and even he with the solid colts oline allows blitzers to get by. That forces Peyton to have to react and he either moves a bit or makes a quick decision, badsoe can't move at all and his quick decision throws are very bad.
Therefore the only strategy needed to beat the cowboys with Bledsoe at the helm despite all the weapons they have on offense is ---> blitz bledsoe. Any slight discomfort to him means bad decisions and no deep balls. Blitzing also means a stacked box much of the time and stalls runs. Bad decisions leads to 3 and outs/Turnovers after 1-2 plays on the first series which leads to a tired defense. The defense starts sucking because Badsoe is keeping them on the field for an eternity. The entire team is brought down because of the quarterback (run game, receiver stats, defense)
Really now, badsoe can't even do a simple sidestep to avoid a DT that is pushing a guard back into him. He just stands there like a retard trying to chuck the ball over their head at the latest time possible. Any decent QB takes a sidestep while still keeping their eyes over the field. Romo's style is better for what this offense is equipped with, period.
By the way, those QBs you mention that had atrocious games yesterday all have solid histories to say it was a random thing. Plummer might be an exception since he was known a bit for making bad decisions, but at least he's mobile. Last season he made very few errors. Eli's game was not nearly as bad as badsoe's and he's still learning, not a 10+ year vet. Delhomme has a good history and was missing steve smith. Culpepper is coming off an injury and is adjusting to a new team. Badsoe has no real excuse to go by, same ole' ****, easily rattled, been that way for many years now.
Badsoe gets the skins game next week to show he's capable. If he has a similar performance, get Romo as ready as possible over the bye week and through the tennessee/philly/texans games so that he'll hopefully be ready for the tough stretch that ensues afterwards.
Pete King and Chris Mortensen might be proven right before long. Steve Dennis as well.
Zaxor
09-12-2006, 09:32 AM
Drew had a bad game and is taking the heat for it, it comes with the job. I have confidence that Bledsoe will bounce back and show people why he is our starting QB.
Dooms your always good for some encouragement:)
Doomsday101
09-12-2006, 09:36 AM
Dooms your always good for some encouragement:)
1st off I'm not one who panics, we lost the season opener big deal. We have 15 games to go and I think this team still has talent. While some of the fan base is down on the Cowboys I'm 100% behind them and still like our chances.
MichaelWinicki
09-12-2006, 09:37 AM
]I'll be honest, I don't give a squat about anything you wrote[/B]. And to be sure I have supported Bledsoe strongly in the past.
My concern is in the here and now, and what we have is a 34 year old QB who has gotten pummeled in his career.
What other QBs did in the league this week doesn't matter. How good Jax is really doesn't matter, many of Beldsoe's throws were just flat out boneheaded. Houston would have picked them off. The lack of pressure on Drew is more of an indictment of him than anything else.
I like Drew more than most here, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the atrocity he committed yesterday. That was a beyond terrible game, and pointing out 4 other QBs who didn't play well has nothing to do with anything.
Drew's gotta lot to prove this coming week. Here's to hoping he does.
I agree with all that.
I don't want to hear "excuses".
I don't want to hear about weak comparisons and how I should feel better about our QB situation just because some other teams QB looked like ****.
This is the Dallas Cowboys and I expect more out of them.
Big Dakota
09-12-2006, 09:41 AM
I agree with all that.
I don't want to hear "excuses".
I don't want to hear about weak comparisons and how I should feel better about our QB situation just because some other teams QB looked like ****.
This is the Dallas Cowboys and I expect more out of them.
As does Jerry. If Drew plays poorly against the Skins, Katie bar the door.
YN1SCOTT
09-12-2006, 09:43 AM
I'll be honest, I don't give a squat about anything you wrote. And to be sure I have supported Bledsoe strongly in the past.
My concern is in the here and now, and what we have is a 34 year old QB who has gotten pummeled in his career.
What other QBs did in the league this week doesn't matter. How good Jax is really doesn't matter, many of Beldsoe's throws were just flat out boneheaded. Houston would have picked them off. The lack of pressure on Drew is more of an indictment of him than anything else.
I like Drew more than most here, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the atrocity he committed yesterday. That was a beyond terrible game, and pointing out 4 other QBs who didn't play well has nothing to do with anything.
Drew's gotta lot to prove this coming week. Here's to hoping he does.
this is a GREAT QUOTE!!!!!!!!
DLCassidy
09-12-2006, 09:50 AM
Yeah, because we are completely dissapointed with Bledsoe, a supposed "HOF QB", for sucking hardcore despite all the weapons a QB could ever want, we are bandwagon fans. Great logic :rolleyes:
Just for the record, Eli Manning looked much better than Bledsoe yesterday.
The Jaguars were 12-4 because they played creampuffs all year they had two quality wins all seaosn, and then lived off of beating on NFC West teams and scrubs of the AFC.
Hasslebeck doesnt have a history of horrible decisions and zero pocket presence when under pressure
Jacksonville has a much better D than Indy and Ellie was at home. The Jags were 12-4 because of their D. They're pretty much the only team to slow down Indy. And yes Hasselbeck does have a history of trouble under pressure- last year was the first year he really shined and he did it behind an all pro line and the NFL all time TD leader at RB. You're putting too much weight on one bad game for Bledsoe, especially when there's a good chance he wasn't 100% physically. Last year other than the end of the Seattle game DB was quite clutch for us with 5 4th quarter comeback wins, leading the league. IMO the original poster was right on.
fortdick
09-12-2006, 10:36 AM
Not a thing wrong with this thread. Although I may not agree with everything he still has the right to express his thoughts.
His opinion is just as important as anyones.
Isn't that why you fought at Gettysburg Pops? To preserve our basic liberties?
J/K! :D
SA_Gunslinger
09-12-2006, 11:24 AM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
super post.
i don't have much to add. bledsoe's gonna shine on sunday night. i can feel it.
and naturally, everyone will love him again. some of our fans need tougher guts for the season!!! surely they didn't expect us to be 16-0. or did they????
Doomsday101
09-12-2006, 11:32 AM
super post.
i don't have much to add. bledsoe's gonna shine on sunday night. i can feel it.
and naturally, everyone will love him again. some of our fans need tougher guts for the season!!! surely they didn't expect us to be 16-0. or did they????
I agree but you had to expect the fall out around here after sundays loss. You have been around here long enough to know any time this team loses Bledsoe is going to get raked over the coals.
aikemirv
09-12-2006, 11:49 AM
I actually started to sour on him late last year and he would suck me back in here and there. Just like he did in the preseason when he was getting rid of the ball quickly.
All that changed on Sunday, when he continually held onto the ball time and time again!
Just make a read and throw the ball!!!!!
playboidolla
09-12-2006, 12:06 PM
When Bledsoe starts playing well again....Everyone who is dogging him out after one game continue to do so....Fans are sometimes so funny.....I live in Carolina and they swear Jake Delhomme is the reason why they lose lol and they want him out.......You play as a team not an individual and if one player plays bad then the team should make up for it because they are not going to have a good game every game of the year but thats why its called a TEAM
Stautner
09-12-2006, 12:19 PM
Let's be fair guys. Yes, Bledsoe had a bad game and had a big problem with his mobility, reading defenses and holding the ball too long.
On the other hand, this was an abnormally bad game for Bledsoe and history tells us that he wont repeat this kind of performance often.
But back to the first hand - the problems Bledsoe had aren't new, they just bit us a little harder in this game than in some.
The bottom line is that this game doesn't mean Bledsoe is washed up or that he should be benched. What it does mean is that we need to watch Bledsoe closely, keeping in mind we have a seemingly talented back up waiting for a shot, and only give Bledsoe so much latitude. If a negative pattern starts to form, we should make a move before digging too deep a hole.
KingTuna
09-12-2006, 12:24 PM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
Excellent post and perspective!! 15 more to go!
SA_Gunslinger
09-12-2006, 02:08 PM
I agree but you had to expect the fall out around here after sundays loss. You have been around here long enough to know any time this team loses Bledsoe is going to get raked over the coals.
let's just say i didn't check in until monday morning.
:D
Doomsday101
09-12-2006, 02:10 PM
let's just say i didn't check in until monday morning.
:D
Same here.
kartr
09-12-2006, 03:13 PM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
About number 4, look at the other side of the coin if you will, Jones had 73 yards on 17 carries against a very tough defense, and Bledsoe was only sacked 2 times against a very tough defense, yet he made 5 bad decisions about where to throw the ball and we got lucky that 2 of them were dropped. What do you think is going to happen when our opponents are in mid-season form defensively, 6 ints, 9. The main problem is we have a qb in his 14th or 15th year with a superb supporting cast making rookie mistakes. Could Romo have played any worse in his first start, that's why Bill is saying that Bledsoe is still starter for now.
kartr
09-12-2006, 03:16 PM
You hit the nail on the head with the last sentence...yes Bledsoe is going to have to come up big this week to quell the flames.
I'm not going to sit here and play the role of 'nothing was Bledsoe's fault', but it's foolish too look past some of the same issues from last season that reared their ugly head again yesterday:
1) Missed field goals
2) sporadic running game
3) inconsistent play calling
4) inability to create pressure defensively on a consistent basis
I'm honestly more concerned about the defense right now than I am Bledsoe or the offense.
On three of those you mentioned, inexperienced players is the cause. We assume in time that they will learn from their mistakes. Bledsoe is not inexperienced, he is one of the most experienced qb's in the business, yet he makes the same mistakes as the youngsters on our team. And that's a big problem.
kartr
09-12-2006, 03:20 PM
We got off to a 10 - 0 and then Parcells decided to play like...well Parcells. I have never been a fan of his, sure he has an impressive resume and a couple of world titles...but he's too old school and refuses to play anyway but tight/ball control type of games. Why did it take so long to find Glenn deep or TO for that TD?
Eli Manning still lost, and was booed....in fact I was at a sports bar watching Tom Brady get booed at home when Buffalo was pounding them early on. Delhomme, Culpepper and Plummer are considered top flight QB's as well and they all were pathetic yesterday (or thursday in the case of culpepper).
Hasslebach don't have a history of horrible desicions, what did he do in the superbowl?
The point is all QB's have bad games....let's just hope that this was Bledsoe's worst as a Cowboy.
Delhomme was undrafted free agent qb and didnt have his best weapon available, Culpepper is on a brand new team in his first game and when was Plummer ever considered a top-flight qb.
kartr
09-12-2006, 03:21 PM
Whywould any coach go for the jugular with a QB who couldn't hit the broad side of Andy Reid?
:lmao:
Fletch
09-12-2006, 03:22 PM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
If I could, I'd shake your hand. I was in a rather foul mood after that Jax game. But after hearing you put the "entire" game into prespective, I couldn't agree with you more.
The loss was a bitter one, but yet it's a long season. 15 more to go. Let's hope we can build from this one and become one of the better teams in the NFL.
StarAmongStars
09-12-2006, 03:31 PM
Bledsoe is our QB period.....Romo would have been destroyed in Jax, and his romosexual following should be thankful he didn't play in that game cause his NFL career would have lasted one week.
We are a good team that got beat by another good team...homefield advantage in games like that mean everything this is why we have to take care of business on sunday night!
DipChit
09-12-2006, 03:34 PM
..and when was Plummer ever considered a top-flight qb.
A friend here in Denver thinks he is.
I know one guy on the net who thinks Quincy was well on his way too.
So sounds like you and the friend should get together and discuss why you guys know your stuff and the rest of the world is whacked.
Stautner
09-12-2006, 03:35 PM
Bledsoe is our QB period.....Romo would have been destroyed in Jax, and his romosexual following should be thankful he didn't play in that game cause his NFL career would have lasted one week.
We are a good team that got beat by another good team...homefield advantage in games like that mean everything this is why we have to take care of business on sunday night!
This comment is as irrational as the anti-Bledsoe comments.
The fact is we don't know if Romo would have succeeded or failed - he has shown tools and talent, but until it's put in practice you and I just don't know.
Treating it as a certainty that Romo would have failed is as bad as those who treat it as a certainty that Bledsoe is washed up.
sf49rh8r
09-12-2006, 03:42 PM
I'll be honest, I don't give a squat about anything you wrote. And to be sure I have supported Bledsoe strongly in the past.
My concern is in the here and now, and what we have is a 34 year old QB who has gotten pummeled in his career.
What other QBs did in the league this week doesn't matter. How good Jax is really doesn't matter, many of Beldsoe's throws were just flat out boneheaded. Houston would have picked them off. The lack of pressure on Drew is more of an indictment of him than anything else.
I like Drew more than most here, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the atrocity he committed yesterday. That was a beyond terrible game, and pointing out 4 other QBs who didn't play well has nothing to do with anything.
Drew's gotta lot to prove this coming week. Here's to hoping he does.
Better post!!!
StarAmongStars
09-12-2006, 03:48 PM
This comment is as irrational as the anti-Bledsoe comments.
The fact is we don't know if Romo would have succeeded or failed - he has shown tools and talent, but until it's put in practice you and I just don't know.
Treating it as a certainty that Romo would have failed is as bad as those who treat it as a certainty that Bledsoe is washed up.
Bledsoe is a future HOF QB...Romo is nothing more than a career back up, that is if he even ever sees the field in a regular season game.
jimmy40
09-12-2006, 04:37 PM
Here are some facts for everybody trashing Bledsoe to consider:
1) Jaguars were 12-4 last year (only lost to the colts at home).
2) Seattle was beat soundly last year in Jax on opening day and Hassleback played bad.....guess what team went on to almost win the superbowl and which one was knocked out in the 1st round?
3) Jake Plummer, Jake Delhomme, Eli Manning, Dante Culpepper...all looked atrocious or worse than Bledsoe yesterday....are they going to get benched?
4) Despite oline/rushing struggles, Bledsoe was still only sacked twice yesterday.
Big Deal....The Cowboys lost a game many hardcore nfl pundits expected them to. To a team that might be one of the best in the league (Personally I think they finally knock the colts off the AFC South this year). Let's not put all the blame on Bledsoe's shoulders, he could have done better but this was most certainly a wake up call and it came at the right time for this team. I look forward to seeing Drew bounce back this week and still have a big year!
1: If you think that was last years Jax team you weren't paying attention.
2:The worst team in the AFC playoffs won the Super Bowl.
3:Who cares? No way Bledsoe ever gets benched.
4:Say that JJ didn't have a good day rushing and you'll get slammed.
I agree it was a wake up call and that Bledsoe will most likely bounce back this week.
Stautner
09-12-2006, 05:01 PM
Bledsoe is a future HOF QB...Romo is nothing more than a career back up, that is if he even ever sees the field in a regular season game.
Nothing worse than a Know-it-all ...... completely incapable of rational thought and reasonable conversation.
StarAmongStars
09-12-2006, 05:16 PM
Nothing worse than a Know-it-all ...... completely incapable of rational thought and reasonable conversation.
How many career passing yards and TD's does Romo have?
I love how people think this guy is the savior just because he had a good training camp. Hey guess what Bledsoe had a good camp/preseason too and was killed in Jacksonville and to think that Romo, who has ZERO nfl regular season snaps under his belt would have done any better absurb.
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