WHY we need to see Romo

[Avenging Hayseed]

Here goes......I truly believe we should start Romo after the bye week. Heres why..........First off, its very hard to win a super bowl to begin with, second, I believe it would be extremely hard to win one with Bledsoe. Just too many limitations. Not saying it cant be done, it can, just saying it would be pretty dayumed tuff to do. As Cowboys fans we expect SUPER BOWL WINS, Anything less is just a failure IMO. Its time to see what we have in Romo. He needs to EITHER validate himself as the longterm starter for the Cowboys, or illiminate himself as the longterm starter through his play ON THE FIELD in games that count. That way if he blows chunks we can draft a QB next year. We cant go on riding the tiger like were doing. Time to schitt or get off the pot!...LOL I mean really, think about it, if we pretty much know its going to take a miricle to win a super bowl with Bledsoe, then WHY NOT start Romo???For one thing I believe his strong points will make up for what he lacks in other areas. In the long run I dont think were going to be any worse off by starting Romo, in fact we will be ahead of the curve because we will AT LEAST know what we have. I believe the transition SHOULD be made during the bye week. Nothing in this world thats good is easy, eventually you have to be willing to jump in head first. Time to JUMP!

[Doomsday101]

Only an idiot coach would make a move of desperation this early in the season. BP is not going to bench Bledsoe any time soon

[Avenging Hayseed]

I dont know about you guys, but going 10-6 and squeeking into the playoffs only to get blown out right away doesnt do a thing for me. I think thats about what you get with Bledsoe. The defenses are just too tuff come playoff time. Listen, 8 times wev'e been there, 5 championships, I dont care if its been awhile, quick exits in the playoffs dont mean shinola to me! Time to see what he is. Tell ya another thing, I'd much rather throw a young QB in now with the team we have around him then if we were weak in other areas, wouldnt you? If the bye week isnt the time, then WHEN IS?

[Avenging Hayseed]

Only an idiot coach would make a move of desperation this early in the season. BP is not going to bench Bledsoe any time soon......Its NOT a move of desperation though. NOT at all. Reread my post. Its for the good of the team in the LONG RUN. Bledsoe gets us 10-6 with an early playoff exit, THATS IT. NOT GOOD ENUFF FOR ME.....Shouldnt be good enuff for anyone else either IMO.

[Doomsday101]

I dont know about you guys, but going 10-6 and squeeking into the playoffs only to get blon out right away doesnt do a thing for me. I think thats about what you get with Bledsoe. The defenses are just too tuff come playoff time. Listen, 8 times wev'e been there, 5 championships, I dont care if its been awhile, quick exits in the playoffs dont mean shinola to me! Time to see what he is. Tell ya another thing, I'd much rather throw a young QB in now with the team we have around him then if we were weak in other areas, wouldnt you? If the bye week isnt the time, then WHEN IS?

That must be a nice crystal ball you got there to be able to see in to the future. Playing musical QB at this stage is not a good ideal if your going to make a switch then you go into next season and give Romo all 1st unit snaps all pre-season game as the starter that way not only Romo but the team knows full well who the leader on this team is. To have some protection you sign a vet to backup Romo and draft a QB next season which should be done regardless of how Romo or Bledsoe does this season.

[Ashwynn]

My god, you pple are idiots. The Oline could not protect Bledsoe, who has seen this crap before.

[Doomsday101]

......Its NOT a move of desperation though. NOT at all. Reread my post. Its for the good of the team in the LONG RUN. Bledsoe gets us 10-6 with an early playoff exit, THATS IT. NOT GOOD ENUFF FOR ME.....Shouldnt be good enuff for anyone else either IMO.

You don't know if Dallas will go 10-6 and exit early out of the playoffs, that is your prediction and your entitled to it but that is all it is. And yes changing QB this early in the season is a move of desperation and would be looked at that way by any rational person. This is not training camp and these type of stunts are not going to help this team win ball games this season.

[conner01]

let me see if i got this right. after one game we write off this season to see romo, and if he can't take us to the super bowl we draft another rookie qb and start over again and i guess after one season if he does'nt get us to the super bowl we draft another one.yes, thats a very sound plan there.
if trent dilfer can geta team to the super bowl any qb can. it's a team game and a great qb does'nt mean you get to the super bowl,ask dan marino
you have to have a good all around team and a lot of luck to get to the super bowl and win.and any coach who writes off the season after one game shoud be locked in a padded room

[DipChit]

Well if a person believes there's no chance with Bledsoe then I dont necessarily disagree with the premise.

But then again if thats the case one might just as well made the commitment to start Romo in game 1.

Man thngs were sure alot easier in the "old" days of the NFL where you pretty much knew for a fact it was gonna be 1 of maybe 5 or less particular teams that were going to be there at the end. If you werent one of those 5 or no where near it, it was easier to make decisions that were geared to 2 or 3 years down the road.

Now theres only about 5 teams that *dont* have at least a shot it seems. As evidenced by 8 diff NFC reps in the last 9 years. Lil harder to pull the trigger on things like that when nowadays most teams are in the "1 year plan" instead of the "4 year plan" of old.

[Big Country]

Hayseed you need to read this thread...

Romo hasn't passed for 40k yards, our current starting QB has.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63888

Take it easy there hoss!

[Avenging Hayseed]

let me see if i got this right. after one game we write off this season to see romo, and if he can't take us to the super bowl we draft another rookie qb and start over again and i guess after one season if he does'nt get us to the super bowl we draft another one.yes, thats a very sound plan there.
if trent dilfer can geta team to the super bowl any qb can. it's a team game and a great qb does'nt mean you get to the super bowl,ask dan marino
you have to have a good all around team and a lot of luck to get to the super bowl and win.and any coach who writes off the season after one game shoud be locked in a padded room That is NOTHING like the scenario I layed out...AT ALL! I dont know why it is but it seems like people love to take things out of context and run with it on message boards. Just the way it is. Folks will dissect a post and make it sound FAR more extreme then the post actually was. All im saying is Bledsoe is a proven quantity. With him there is no suprizes, you get what you get. He is a guy that can get a team to the playoffs if everything around him is right, and thats about all you get. His career has proven this to be fact. If this is good enuff for some then so be it, but in my mind its not good enuff for me. e have NO idea what Romo can do for us, NONE, but we do know what Bledsoe can do. WHY not find out. Besides, think about it, if a LATE season switch had to be made would you rather switch to Romo and NOT know what your getting, OR, would you rather see what you have in Romo, if he pans out keep him, but if not Switch to Bledsoe???? I know what I would choose.....

[Funxva]

Here goes......I truly believe we should start Romo after the bye week. Heres why..........First off, its very hard to win a super bowl to begin with, second, I believe it would be extremely hard to win one with Bledsoe. Just too many limitations. Not saying it cant be done, it can, just saying it would be pretty dayumed tuff to do. As Cowboys fans we expect SUPER BOWL WINS, Anything less is just a failure IMO. Its time to see what we have in Romo. He needs to EITHER validate himself as the longterm starter for the Cowboys, or illiminate himself as the longterm starter through his play ON THE FIELD in games that count. That way if he blows chunks we can draft a QB next year. We cant go on riding the tiger like were doing. Time to schitt or get off the pot!...LOL I mean really, think about it, if we pretty much know its going to take a miricle to win a super bowl with Bledsoe, then WHY NOT start Romo???For one thing I believe his strong points will make up for what he lacks in other areas. In the long run I dont think were going to be any worse off by starting Romo, in fact we will be ahead of the curve because we will AT LEAST know what we have. I believe the transition SHOULD be made during the bye week. Nothing in this world thats good is easy, eventually you have to be willing to jump in head first. Time to JUMP!

Who has two thumbs and thinks this is utterly ridiculous and does not contain a shred of good football strategy?

/points thumbs at self

This guy!!!

[ravidubey]

Yep, Drew Bledsoe will be adding 48 interceptions to go along with Shawn Merriman's 48 sacks this season. :rolleyes:

[maxsports]

You don't throw Romo in like that. I would love to see what everyone would say when Romo throws interceptions and loses games. We have veteran receivers that Bledsoe has or is working on a connection with. This team is built to win now or start over. Our starting receivers are in their 30's. You don't need to know right now what we have in Romo. That can wait.

[Avenging Hayseed]

All I know is THIS..........Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, Vinny Testeverde, and Clint Stoerner are ALL GONE. Tony Romo remains. NOW WHY do you think that is???Why has he been given TWO contract extentions??? Why have Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, and Ron Wolfe been VERY complimentary of Romo? Are they all bumbling idiots? I dont think so. And if they are,, then were shafted anyway....LOL Sometimes the answers are SOOOOOOOOOOOO obvios people refuse to accept them. So be it.

[BrAinPaiNt]

If I want to see or "NEED" to see Romo...I have the comfort of knowing I can always watch downloaded video clips of him playing in Pre-season games over the past few years. :D

[Doomsday101]

All I know is THIS..........Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, Vinny Testeverde, and Clint Stoerner are ALL GONE. Tony Romo remains. NOW WHY do you think that is???Why has he been given TWO contract extentions??? Why have Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, and Ron Wolfe been VERY complimentary of Romo? Are they all bumbling idiots? I dont think so. And if they are,, then were shafted anyway....LOL Sometimes the answers are SOOOOOOOOOOOO obvios people refuse to accept them. So be it.

If Romo was going to be this years starter he would be starting right now. I agree Parcells has been very high on Romo but despite that who is the starting QB that Parcells himself has on the field right now? Bledsoe is the starting QB and will remain so for this season unless he is injured or Parcells feels he no longer can do the job.

[Avenging Hayseed]

You don't throw Romo in like that. I would love to see what everyone would say when Romo throws interceptions and loses games. We have veteran receivers that Bledsoe has or is working on a connection with. This team is built to win now or start over. Our starting receivers are in their 30's. You don't need to know right now what we have in Romo. That can wait.....Because I dont believe we can get to and win a Superbowl with Drew Bledsoe. His deficiancies are too much to overcome come playoff time with the defenses you see then. I believe Romo's deficiencies can actually be hidden easier than Bledsoes due to his athleticism and the fact we have a pretty darned good team AROUND HIM. Does Romo have a quick dropback? YUP. Does he avoid the sack?YUP, Does he have a quick release? Yup. Can he feel the rush? Yup. Now, can you answer YES to any of those questions when you insert the name Drew Bledsoe???NOPE.

[neosapien23]

If Bledsoe is actually seriously hurt, then Romo should start until he is healthy. I have seen many bad games from Bledsoe, but last week was his worst. He couldn't even hit wide open recievers. In my opinion something is definitely wrong. If he doesn't get healthy soon, then BP needs to stop being stuborn and put in a healthy QB.

[Doomsday101]

....Because I dont believe we can get to and win a Superbowl with Drew Bledsoe. His deficiancies are too much to overcome come playoff time with the defenses you see then. I believe Romo's deficiencies can actually be hidden easier than Bledsoes due to his athleticism and the fact we have a pretty darned good team AROUND HIM. Does Romo have a quick dropback? YUP. Does he avoid the sack?YUP, Does he have a quiock release? Yup. Now, can you answer YES to any of those questions when you insert the name Drew Bledsoe???NOPE.

Evidently Parcells does not feel the same way or Bledsoe would not be behind center as the starting QB and to use your own words "he is no bumbling idiot"

[Avenging Hayseed]

I know one thing. We WILL be seeing Tony Romo starting this year for us. And ALOT quicker then some think. Bp has played this pretty good. He NEEDS Bledsoe to be around to back up. Nothing more to say about it till it happens. BUT, save this post, im game for it, because the handwriting is already on the wall. lOOK, im really not that way either, all I wanna do is WIN BABY!...Could care less who is QBing us to a superbowl just as long as we get there. If its Bledsoe...GREAT. Nuthin wrong with that. I just dont have faith that HE can.

[THEHEREAFTER]

I couldn't agree more with AH. Sure, Drew will have a couple 3 TD no or 1 int games this year (most likely AT HOME IN GOOD WEATHER) and will look pretty doing it. We've all seen his inconsistencies and limitations however. What are we giving up exactly? A stronger arm?... A QB who actually steps into sacks? A QB who CANNOT see the entire field and throws rookie interceptions? I feel real good about this Romo kid. You know why? He has the ability to use his feet and make plays. Think about it. T.O. makes a LIVING off broken plays using his athleticism to adjust routes. I like Drew as a leader. He's a good guy. I want to like him even more but he keeps stepping into sacks and throwing picks a rookie shouldn't throw. Drew is a liability. He will have great games still and I will root for whomever is behind center but his pattern is consistent. I think Romo with our weapons could be dangerous. So defenses will throw the kitchen sink at him ? So what... our starter can't handle the pressure either?

[aikemirv]

....Because I dont believe we can get to and win a Superbowl with Drew Bledsoe. His deficiancies are too much to overcome come playoff time with the defenses you see then. I believe Romo's deficiencies can actually be hidden easier than Bledsoes due to his athleticism and the fact we have a pretty darned good team AROUND HIM. Does Romo have a quick dropback? YUP. Does he avoid the sack?YUP, Does he have a quick release? Yup. Now, can you answer YES to any of those questions when you insert the name Drew Bledsoe???NOPE.

I understand your premise and if you believe that his deficiencies cannot be overcome throughout the playoffs and get you to the Super Bowl, it , IMO , would be a wise course of action.

You make a good argument and I was thinking the same thing the other day that I don't believe his deficiencies and our Oline will make it to the SuperBowl. He or the line will not be able to win 3 playoff games against quality opponents if you ask me.

Would Romo be able to do it either, I kind of doubt it, but at least we would know!

[Doomsday101]

I know one thing. We WILL be seeing Tony Romo starting this year for us. And ALOT quicker then some think. Bp has played this pretty good. He NEEDS Bledsoe to be around to back up. Nothing more to say about it till it happens. BUT, save this post, im game for it, because the handwriting is already on the wall. lOOK, im really not that way either, all I wanna do is WIN BABY!...Could care less who is QBing us to a superbowl just as long as we get there. If its Bledsoe...GREAT. Nuthin wrong with that. I just dont have faith that HE can.

Your projecting your own lack of faith as if Parcells feels the say way and evidently he doesn't BP does not play musical QB that quickly never has in his career as a HC. If Bledsoe shows no improvement then chances are a move would be made but Parcells will give Bledsoe every opportunity he can before any such move would be made.

[Avenging Hayseed]

Your projecting your own lack of faith as if Parcells feels the say way and evidently he doesn't BP does not play musical QB that quickly never has in his career as a HC. If Bledsoe shows no improvement then chances are a move would be made but Parcells will give Bledsoe every opportunity he can before any such move would be made. I believe Parcells DOES feel the same way as I do. I also believe the switch has already been PREDETERMINED. Think about everything that has transpired over the last 3 months. I think BP is doing it in a way as to not totally ruffle Bledsoes feathers so he at least stays on as a backup.

[Avenging Hayseed]

Just for sc....tts and giggles. ..Romo starting this year is just about as absurd as Tony running Quincy, Hutchinson, AND Hensons azzes out of town on a rail! Oh wait....that DID happen!......:lmao:

[KingTuna]

Are people REALLY still posting these kind of threads???

I can understand it on Monday or maybe even tuesday of this week, but last week's game is over. Bledsoe is our QB and It's time to move on to this week's game.

If the cowboys come out and win Sunday then all will be well again.

Don't worry, if we keep losing and the this season is tanked, I am sure you will finally get your wish to see Romo play in an actual game against true first team defenses who will be sending the dogs to attack.

What I am curious to see is if this happens and Romo starts throwing picks and getting pressured and playing like a "rookie" QB (which he essentialy is) how many posters here will start calling for Bledsoe to be back in as QB or let's see what Baker can do.

Sadly, I suspect the number would be high.

I support and respect people who have conviction and truly believe that Romo should be the QB. If they stand behind him regardless of his play as "their guy" then I repsect that.

However, I suspect there are very few of those posters here. I suspect that if things were to go south with Romo, many of those same posters would go south on him.

I stand behind Drew Bledsoe as our starter. Anyone suggesting he be pulled after ONE game is displaying a severe knee jerk reaction. This team was built to win in 2006 with Bledsoe at QB and the defense being stout.

Let's face it, last week's performance by everyone except T.O. cannot be defended and will get us no where this season if we continue playing that way.

No way with the talent we have can we play that bad every week. I suspect we will boucne back strong and be back on course for a championship run.

:starspin

[baj1dallas]

....Because I dont believe we can get to and win a Superbowl with Drew Bledsoe. His deficiancies are too much to overcome come playoff time with the defenses you see then. I believe Romo's deficiencies can actually be hidden easier than Bledsoes due to his athleticism and the fact we have a pretty darned good team AROUND HIM. Does Romo have a quick dropback? YUP. Does he avoid the sack?YUP, Does he have a quick release? Yup. Now, can you answer YES to any of those questions when you insert the name Drew Bledsoe???NOPE.

So Trent Dilfer can win a Superbowl, but Drew Bledsoe can't?

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

[aikemirv]

I believe Parcells DOES feel the same way as I do. I also believe the switch has already been PREDETERMINED. Think about everything that has transpired over the last 3 months. I think BP is doing it in a way as to not totally ruffle Bledsoes feathers so he at least stays on as a backup.

I think he is close to being there too. Just from his comments in the PC and the comments from Jerry in preseason that Bledsoe is a very good QB when he delivers the ball on time.

They know his deficiencies and BP, IMO is just waiting for the opportunity to see Romo in live game - reg season action, and if Bledsoe plays better we will see Romo in the first semblance of a blowout or in a couple of weeks if we go 0-2 and Bledsoe plays poorly this week.

But that is just my opinion of what BP is thinking. If he was not giving it a thought, his comments in the PC would have been a lot different.

[aikemirv]

So Trent Dilfer can win a Superbowl, but Drew Bledsoe can't?

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Great running game, great defense and a much better Oline.

[Avenging Hayseed]

Are people REALLY still posting these kind of threads???

I can understand it on Monday or maybe even tuesday of this week, but last week's game is over. Bledsoe is our QB and It's time to move on to this week's game.

If the cowboys come out and win Sunday then all will be well again.

Don't worry, if we keep losing and the this season is tanked, I am sure you will finally get your wish to see Romo play in an actual game against true first team defenses who will be sending the dogs to attack.

What I am curious to see is if this happens and Romo starts throwing picks and getting pressured and playing like a "rookie" QB (which he essentialy is) how many posters here will start calling for Bledsoe to be back in as QB or let's see what Baker can do.

Sadly, I suspect the number would be high.

I support and respect people who have conviction and truly believe that Romo should be the QB. If they stand behind him regardless of his play as "their guy" then I repsect that.

However, I suspect there are very few of those posters here. I suspect that if things were to go south with Romo, many of those same posters would go south on him.

I stand behind Drew Bledsoe as our starter. Anyone suggesting he be pulled after ONE game is displaying a severe knee jerk reaction. This team was built to win in 2006 with Bledsoe at QB and the defense being stout.

Let's face it, last week's performance by everyone except T.O. cannot be defended and will get us no where this season if we continue playing that way.

No way with the talent we have can we play that bad every week. I suspect we will boucne back strong and be back on course for a championship run. ............................

:starspin..............We can beat the Redskins 50 to nothing and it STILL wont change my opinion. AT ALL. Its NOT that I dont think Bledsoe is a decent QB, I DO. Its just that I DONT BELIEVE HE IS A SUPER BOWL WINNING QB. The objective is always the same, to get to, and WIN a superbowl. Drew has a track record that points to him being highly unlikely of achieving THAT objective. A 14 year track record. THAT is why I am for making the switch...

[aikemirv]

Are people REALLY still posting these kind of threads???

I can understand it on Monday or maybe even tuesday of this week, but last week's game is over. Bledsoe is our QB and It's time to move on to this week's game.

If the cowboys come out and win Sunday then all will be well again.

Don't worry, if we keep losing and the this season is tanked, I am sure you will finally get your wish to see Romo play in an actual game against true first team defenses who will be sending the dogs to attack.

What I am curious to see is if this happens and Romo starts throwing picks and getting pressured and playing like a "rookie" QB (which he essentialy is) how many posters here will start calling for Bledsoe to be back in as QB or let's see what Baker can do.

Sadly, I suspect the number would be high.

I support and respect people who have conviction and truly believe that Romo should be the QB. If they stand behind him regardless of his play as "their guy" then I repsect that.

However, I suspect there are very few of those posters here. I suspect that if things were to go south with Romo, many of those same posters would go south on him.

I stand behind Drew Bledsoe as our starter. Anyone suggesting he be pulled after ONE game is displaying a severe knee jerk reaction. This team was built to win in 2006 with Bledsoe at QB and the defense being stout.

Let's face it, last week's performance by everyone except T.O. cannot be defended and will get us no where this season if we continue playing that way.

No way with the talent we have can we play that bad every week. I suspect we will boucne back strong and be back on course for a championship run.

:starspin

This is not just one game, it is a repeated pattern of last year. I was all for Bledsoe starting the year because in preseason he was getting rid of the ball quickly and looking very good. Did not get rid of the ball quickly on Sunday and made a bunch of mistakes.

See that kind of performance once in the playoffs and we are out and that is what AH is saying!

Bite the bullet now, see if Romo can handle it, go after a QB in the draft if he can't.

It really is not that hard to understand.

[Avenging Hayseed]

This is not just one game, it is a repeated pattern of last year. I was all for Bledsoe starting the year because in preseason he was getting rid of the ball quickly and looking very good. Did not get rid of the ball quickly on Sunday and made a bunch of mistakes.

See that kind of performance once in the playoffs and we are out and that is what AH is saying!

Bite the bullet now, see if Romo can handle it, go after a QB in the draft if he can't.

It really is not that hard to understand................ding ding ding ding, we have a winner!

[aikemirv]

You know what is funny about this in a way.

Brady was chosen over Bledsoe.

LOSMAN was chosen over Bledsoe.

and people act like some of us are flat out crazy for wanting Romo over Bledsoe, when Romo is much more impressive than Losman!!

[Doomsday101]

This is not just one game, it is a repeated pattern of last year. I was all for Bledsoe starting the year because in preseason he was getting rid of the ball quickly and looking very good. Did not get rid of the ball quickly on Sunday and made a bunch of mistakes.

See that kind of performance once in the playoffs and we are out and that is what AH is saying!

Bite the bullet now, see if Romo can handle it, go after a QB in the draft if he can't.

It really is not that hard to understand.

Because we are not going to risk throwing the season down the tubes by playing like this is training camp. Only teams that makes these moves are teams that know they are not going to win now. If Romo is to be the starter then this needs to be known by the team and Romo from the get go you don't make knee jerk moves this early in the season just so some fans can find out for themselfs what Romo can do and when you get right down to it that really is what this is about Fans wanting to see for themselfs what Romo would do. I don't see Parcells running this team like that, if Bledsoe continues to stuggle then sure a move could be made but Parcells is not going to do it just so some fans and the media can see for themselfs how Romo would do.

[REDVOLUTION]

......Its NOT a move of desperation though. NOT at all. Reread my post. Its for the good of the team in the LONG RUN. Bledsoe gets us 10-6 with an early playoff exit, THATS IT. NOT GOOD ENUFF FOR ME.....Shouldnt be good enuff for anyone else either IMO.

I hear ya and see where you are going... but... Bill is looking at it like...... "the team is filled with broken heroes on a last chance powerdrive"

which means Drew stays longer than we think... its pretty much HIS season.... putting Romo in now or next week or after bye means that you are trying to catch "(Brady-Ben) lightning in a bottle"

I kinda feel the same way about Drew... not sure he can get it done... but I felt that way about Elway and he DID get it done.... may TO is Drew's missing piece... just another Terrell.... LOL

[Avenging Hayseed]

Other thing I dont get is people saying Romo's lack of experience will get him. BALONEY! Romo has had over three years at Valley ranch now, learning the offense, growing as a QB. And IMO has a pretty danged good team around him TOO. Tell ya what, thats a dayumed sight more than most 1st round hotshots get! Most 1st rounders are thrown into the mix pretty quickly, secondly, there on teams pretty devoid of talent around them or they wouldnt be high 1st round picks. Romo was brought along slowly, GROOMED, he also has a vast array of talent around him. Everything neccisary for success! We will find out VERY QUICKLY if he has what it takes. If he doesnt do it with ALL THESE ADVANTAGES, he never will...

[Stautner]

This is not just one game, it is a repeated pattern of last year. I was all for Bledsoe starting the year because in preseason he was getting rid of the ball quickly and looking very good. Did not get rid of the ball quickly on Sunday and made a bunch of mistakes.

See that kind of performance once in the playoffs and we are out and that is what AH is saying!

Bite the bullet now, see if Romo can handle it, go after a QB in the draft if he can't.

It really is not that hard to understand.

It is that hard to understand. If it was late in the season and we knew where we stood for the year it would be one thing, but what if Romo can't handle it ...... most of us are't willing to throw in the towel this early.

I'm not at all saying that Romo can't handle it, and I'm not saying that Bledsoe is the best guy, but to act as if it isn't at least a tricky situation is ridiculous. How, when and if we make a change isn't a cut and dried thing.

[peplaw06]

I think he is close to being there too. Just from his comments in the PC and the comments from Jerry in preseason that Bledsoe is a very good QB when he delivers the ball on time.

They know his deficiencies and BP, IMO is just waiting for the opportunity to see Romo in live game - reg season action, and if Bledsoe plays better we will see Romo in the first semblance of a blowout or in a couple of weeks if we go 0-2 and Bledsoe plays poorly this week.

But that is just my opinion of what BP is thinking. If he was not giving it a thought, his comments in the PC would have been a lot different. Sorry Bill's comments didn't give me the impression that Romo will be playing soon. He said he's hopeful that Romo gets some PT this season, but he didn't know when or in what situation. That means he hasn't thought it out or planned for a time for Romo to get in there. IMO Romo will come in when we're on the positive side of a blowout, Bledsoe's injured, or we're out of contention/clinched our playoff seeding.

Something you guys have to remember... Bill is a genius when it comes to the media. Everything he does is for a purpose. He worked for them, so he knows their MO. And for the most part, he's honest with them. If he was planning for Romo to come in soon, I think we would hear it. What I think he's really doing -- by saying he wants Romo to play, but doesn't know when or where -- is needling Bledsoe. He's telling Bledsoe he needs to step it up, and he's not happy with his performance from last week. But he wouldn't want to say Romo will come in if Bledsoe's bad next week, because that would show Drew that he has no confidence in him turning it around.

Everything BP tells the media is calculated and has a purpose. Just my $.02

[Doomsday101]

You know what is funny about this in a way.

Brady was chosen over Bledsoe.

LOSMAN was chosen over Bledsoe.

and people act like some of us are flat out crazy for wanting Romo over Bledsoe, when Romo is much more impressive than Losman!!

Brady took over for an injured Bledsoe and Losman took over after Bledsoe was traded so Losman went into training camp getting the needed reps with the 1st unit he play the pre-season as the 1st string QB and there was no doubts in the mind of the other players who the QB was going to be. The Pats and the Bills did not just do it for the heck of it or make the move by the seat of their pants. As for Romo I don't think your crazy for wanting him over Bledsoe but you don't make these type of moves this early in the year. That is a sure signal to your players that you have thrown in the towel for the season and are now going to take a look at another QB.

[Sasquatch]

Only an idiot coach would make a move of desperation this early in the season. BP is not going to bench Bledsoe any time soon

But, surely, you see the allure of exchanging a known quantity for an relative unkown upon whom we can place all sorts of glorious expectations and fantasies?

[baj1dallas]

Great running game, great defense and a much better Oline.

That's all beside the point. The point is the QB alone doesn't have to win the Superbowl

[Avenging Hayseed]

I think this is a HUGE part of my argument for Romo so im reposting it. SORRY...LOL..... Other thing I dont get is people saying Romo's lack of experience will get him. BALONEY! Romo has had over three years at Valley ranch now, learning the offense, growing as a QB. And IMO has a pretty danged good team around him TOO. Tell ya what, thats a dayumed sight more than most 1st round hotshots get! Most 1st rounders are thrown into the mix pretty quickly, secondly, there on teams pretty devoid of talent around them or they wouldnt be high 1st round picks. Romo was brought along slowly, GROOMED, he also has a vast array of talent around him. Everything neccisary for success! We will find out VERY QUICKLY if he has what it takes. If he doesnt do it with ALL THESE ADVANTAGES, he never will...

[aikemirv]

It is that hard to understand. If it was late in the season and we knew where we stood for the year it would be one thing, but what if Romo can't handle it ...... most of us are't willing to throw in the towel this early.

I'm not at all saying that Romo can't handle it, and I'm not saying that Bledsoe is the best guy, but to act as if it isn't at least a tricky situation is ridiculous. How, when and if we make a change isn't a cut and dried thing.

You don't have to agree with the premise, but to say that the premise is unfounded and to call it knee jerk I think is a little unfair.

BP will have a tough decision to make if Bledsoe plays poorly Sunday and we start 0-2 IMO and judging from his PC he just might make the move earlier than later.

[peplaw06]

But, surely, you see the allure of exchanging a known quantity for an relative unkown upon whom we can place all sorts of glorious expectations and fantasies?

Yeah but it's irrational to do that if you think the proven quantity can still get it done. And BP knows he can still get it done. One game didn't change his mind.

And those Romo expectations are just that right now... fantasies. Some people think he's the savior around here, when in reality Romo starting is a signal that a white flag is being raised. He will only start when Bledsoe is injured or in a meaningless game. In the NFL teams very rarely pull starting QBs who can still get it done when they're contending.

[Doomsday101]

But, surely, you see the allure of exchanging a known quantity for an relative unkown upon whom we can place all sorts of glorious expectations and fantasies?

As BP described it during training camp Romo is like the new girl everyone wants to take to the dance. All the years I have followed the NFL it is pretty common to see people fall in love with a backup QB when the starter has just came off a bad game. This is nothing new but it is also not a great ideal telling your player you’re pulling the plug on the season so you can take a look at another QB and that is pretty much what you are doing when you make a move like this that early in a season.

[peplaw06]

I think this is a HUGE part of my argument for Romo so im reposting it. SORRY...LOL..... Other thing I dont get is people saying Romo's lack of experience will get him. BALONEY! Romo has had over three years at Valley ranch now, learning the offense, growing as a QB. And IMO has a pretty danged good team around him TOO. Tell ya what, thats a dayumed sight more than most 1st round hotshots get! Most 1st rounders are thrown into the mix pretty quickly, secondly, there on teams pretty devoid of talent around them or they wouldnt be high 1st round picks. Romo was brought along slowly, GROOMED, he also has a vast array of talent around him. Everything neccisary for success! We will find out VERY QUICKLY if he has what it takes. If he doesnt do it with ALL THESE ADVANTAGES, he never will... You're obviously wanting someone to comment on this so I'll bite. EXPERIENCE is not practicing with your team. We're talking real NFL experience here, and Romo doesn't have it. You think Phillip Rivers is an experienced QB?? he's been in the Chargers system for 2 years, and is just now starting, I don't hear pundits saying he's experienced because he's been practicing for 2 years. You can't really believe that perfromance in practice is all you need to get NFL experience. You think drew henson is an NFL experienced QB??

[superpunk]

I wish I had more hands...

So I could give this thread 4 thumbs down!

[peplaw06]

You know what is funny about this in a way.

Brady was chosen over Bledsoe. BS. Bledsoe couldn't play because he almost died.

LOSMAN was chosen over Bledsoe. And Losman has been soooo awesome. If they were in contention they would rather have Bledsoe

[Avenging Hayseed]

You're obviously wanting someone to comment on this so I'll bite. EXPERIENCE is not practicing with your team. We're talking real NFL experience here, and Romo doesn't have it. You think Phillip Rivers is an experienced QB?? he's been in the Chargers system for 2 years, and is just now starting, I don't hear pundits saying he's experienced because he's been practicing for 2 years. You can't really believe that perfromance in practice is all you need to get NFL experience. You think drew henson is an NFL experienced QB?? No, thats not what im saying AT ALL. Im saying the situation Romo is in, and for that matter Phil Rivers too, is a HUGE advantage. THAT is what im saying. BOTH QB's were groomed over the coarce of years. Both QB's have very good teams around them. BIG advantage IMO

[peplaw06]

As BP described it during training camp Romo is like the new girl everyone wants to take to the dance. All the years I have followed the NFL it is pretty common to see people fall in love with a backup QB when the starter has just came off a bad game. This is nothing new but it is also not a great ideal telling your player you’re pulling the plug on the season so you can take a look at another QB and that is pretty much what you are doing when you make a move like this that early in a season. And Cowboy fans are worse than most when it comes to calling for backup QBs. Everyone wanted Walsh over Aikman, Chutch over Quincy, Henson over Vinny, and now Romo over Bledsoe. How many times have the fans been right??

[peplaw06]

No, thats not what im saying AT ALL. Im saying the situation Romo is in, and for that matter Phil Rivers too, is a HUGE advantage. THAT is what im saying. BOTH QB's were groomed over the coarce of years. Both QB's have very good teams around them. BIG advantage IMO Advantage over what?? A NFL QB who has started for 15 years??

I think it's an advantage over a rookie who hasn't played a game, but it's not an "advantage" over Bledsoe. And most of the time rookies are thrown in without experience, they were highly touted prospects. Rivers was one, and still sat for 2 years. Romo was undrafted.

[superpunk]

You know what is funny about this in a way.

Brady was chosen over Bledsoe.

Lie.

LOSMAN was chosen over Bledsoe.

w00t~! That's a great case to cite. :rolleyes:

[aikemirv]

As BP described it during training camp Romo is like the new girl everyone wants to take to the dance. All the years I have followed the NFL it is pretty common to see people fall in love with a backup QB when the starter has just came off a bad game. This is nothing new but it is also not a great ideal telling your player you’re pulling the plug on the season so you can take a look at another QB and that is pretty much what you are doing when you make a move like this that early in a season.

I think we all know that if BP pulls Bledsoe that he will only do so if he thinks it gives the Cowboys the best chance to win.

In his PC on Monday, it did not sound like he was 100% behind the idea that Bledose was starting for sure much past the next game.

SO, I am not sure the premise that AH is stating is far off from What BP may be thinking - We know he likes Romo.

[Stautner]

You don't have to agree with the premise, but to say that the premise is unfounded and to call it knee jerk I think is a little unfair.

BP will have a tough decision to make if Bledsoe plays poorly Sunday and we start 0-2 IMO and judging from his PC he just might make the move earlier than later.

If Bledsoe continues to play poorly then making a move makes sense - for now it doesn't.

[Avenging Hayseed]

One last shot at this...LOL......Your stranded on a deserted island. Youve GOT to get out. Been there for years. You have 2 ideas in your head about how to build a small boat to get off that darned place. One idea seems safe, the other looks good on paper but is a little radical. You go with the safer of the 2. In fact, for fourteen years you try and sail the safer of the 2 out to sea and for 14 years the darned thing makes it a mile out, "just enuff to give you hope" then SINKS!:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: I dont know about you, but after 14 years "bledsoes career length" I think I'd be willing to try the other boat, wouldnt you???????////

[es22]

Bledsoe does have limitations (if you get to him early, you mess up his mind). Romo did well during vanilla preseason. You dont want to put him in and realizing he needs more development.

Parcells knows what he has with Drew. Drew is a captain. If Romo backfires, there is no way Dallas recovers.

Drew is your ticket this year. Unless Bledsoe gets hurt, do not put Romo in (or in mop up duty).

[aikemirv]

Lie.

That's a great case to cite. :rolleyes:

Bledsoe was back for the playoffs - who played in the Super Bowl.

Who was let walk the following year.

Who again was chosen over whom?

Don't call me a liar!




Losman was chosen over Bledsoe - does not say much for Bledsoe does it - It seems like a strong case to cite if you ask me!

[peplaw06]

In his PC on Monday, it did not sound like he was 100% behind the idea that Bledose was starting for sure much past the next game. Like I said BP knows what he's doing with the media. He's needling Bledsoe, trying to motivate him.

Of course he doesn't know what is going to happen beyond this week. What if Bledsoe is shot by an assassin (Hayseed should be tailed...;))?? BP doesn't back himself into corners when it comes to the media. If Romo HAS to play Week 4, then he left that possibility open. That doesn't mean he's planning on it if Bledsoe has another bad game.

[superpunk]

I think we all know that if BP pulls Bledsoe that he will only do so if he thinks it gives the Cowboys the best chance to win.

In his PC on Monday, it did not sound like he was 100% behind the idea that Bledose was starting for sure much past the next game.

SO, I am not sure the premise that AH is stating is far off from What BP may be thinking - We know he likes Romo.

Maybe I missed something, but AH is saying we should replace Bledsoe, regardless of what Bledsoe does this week, simply because it's best for the future. Sorry, Bledsoe is the best QB we've had here in close to 10 years. I'm not into pulling him because he struggled against a good team, looking injured in bad weather. If he plays poorly again, you look at it. Find out why he played poorly.

Right now, he's better than Romo. And I care about right now.

[peplaw06]

One last shot at this...LOL......Your stranded on a deserted island. Youve GOT to get out. Been there for years. You have 2 ideas in your head about how to build a small boat to get off that darned place. One idea seems safe, the other looks good on paper but is a little radical. You go with the safer of the 2. In fact, for fourteen years you try and sail the safer of the 2 out to sea and for 14 years the darned thing makes it a mile out, "just enuff to give you hope" then SINKS!:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: I dont know about you, but after 14 years "bledsoes career length" I think I'd be willing to try the other boat, wouldnt you???????////

Nice... okay I'll throw it back at you using your own metaphor. That ship that gave you hope for 14 years has been within sight of the mainland. The things that kept that ship from getting to the mainland you feel you can fix. Say a leak sprung in one certain place, and that was all that kept you from making it. You patched that leak up, and you think you can go at it again.

And throw this in there. You have ONE more shot. That's it... You feel like if you experiment with the new ship one time, you will never get another chance. Do you go with the ship that got you so close the 14 times, with a patched up leak. Or do you go with the new risky idea, that you don't really have confidence can get you to the mainland, when you only have ONE SHOT LEFT??

[Avenging Hayseed]

One last shot at this...LOL......Your stranded on a deserted island. Youve GOT to get out. Been there for years. You have 2 ideas in your head about how to build a small boat to get off that darned place. One idea seems safe, the other looks good on paper but is a little radical. You go with the safer of the 2. In fact, for fourteen years you try and sail the safer of the 2 out to sea and for 14 years the darned thing makes it a mile out, "just enuff to give you hope" then SINKS!:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: I dont know about you, but after 14 years "bledsoes career length" I think I'd be willing to try the other boat, wouldnt you???????////......If you stuck your hand to a hot frying pan and got BURNED, would you repeatedly keep doing it over and over and over again???LOL The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result!:bang2: :bang2: Sound anything like Bledsoe? :eek:

[superpunk]

Bledsoe was back for the playoffs - who played in the Super Bowl.

Who was let walk the following year.

Who again was chosen over whom?

Don't call me a liar!

The guy who had a great year, and proved he could be a starter, BECAUSE Bledsoe nearly died, was kept on. The Patriots received a first round pick for Bledsoe. Bellichick did not just wake up and think starting Brady was a good idea. That example is ridiculous for this discussion. Bledsoe, as far as we know, isn't hurt.

Losman was chosen over Bledsoe - does not say much for Bledsoe does it - It seems like a strong case to cite if you ask me!

You must be just as brilliant as the Bills front office, then. Hopefully Bill will heed some of that advice.

Maybe we can have as much success as the Bills have since making that decision. :rolleyes:

[superpunk]

......If you stuck your hand to a hot frying pan and got BURNED, would you repeatedly keep doing it over and over and over again???LOL The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result!:bang2: :bang2: Sound anything like Bledsoe? :eek:

I think talking to yourself is another sign of insanity. :eek:

[Avenging Hayseed]

Nice... okay I'll throw it back at you using your own metaphor. That ship that gave you hope for 14 years has been within sight of the mainland. The things that kept that ship from getting to the mainland you feel you can fix. Say a leak sprung in one certain place, and that was all that kept you from making it. You patched that leak up, and you think you can go at it again.

And throw this in there. You have ONE more shot. That's it... You feel like if you experiment with the new ship one time, you will never get another chance. Do you go with the ship that got you so close the 14 times, with a patched up leak. Or do you go with the new risky idea, that you don't really have confidence can get you to the mainland, when you only have ONE SHOT LEFT??......Ahhhhhhhhhh, but the boat only got you a mile out, in fact in the end it wasnt close at all.:lmao:

[Avenging Hayseed]

I think talking to yourself is another sign of insanity. :eek:.......YEP!:D

[peplaw06]

......If you stuck your hand to a hot frying pan and got BURNED, would you repeatedly keep doing it over and over and over again???LOL The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result!:bang2: :bang2: Sound anything like Bledsoe? :eek:

But do you still use frying pans?? Or do you stop putting your hand on the thing while it's hot like a moron??

[peplaw06]

......Ahhhhhhhhhh, but the boat only got you a mile out, in fact in the end it wasnt close at all.:lmao:

I believe Bledsoe has been to the Super Bowl. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Avenging Hayseed]

I think talking to yourself is another sign of insanity. :eek:....Nice to meet you Mr Bledsoe!....:D

[ultra5]

Here goes......I truly believe we should start Romo after the bye week. Heres why..........First off, its very hard to win a super bowl to begin with, second, I believe it would be extremely hard to win one with Bledsoe. Just too many limitations. Not saying it cant be done, it can, just saying it would be pretty dayumed tuff to do. As Cowboys fans we expect SUPER BOWL WINS, Anything less is just a failure IMO. Its time to see what we have in Romo. He needs to EITHER validate himself as the longterm starter for the Cowboys, or illiminate himself as the longterm starter through his play ON THE FIELD in games that count. That way if he blows chunks we can draft a QB next year. We cant go on riding the tiger like were doing. Time to schitt or get off the pot!...LOL I mean really, think about it, if we pretty much know its going to take a miricle to win a super bowl with Bledsoe, then WHY NOT start Romo???For one thing I believe his strong points will make up for what he lacks in other areas. In the long run I dont think were going to be any worse off by starting Romo, in fact we will be ahead of the curve because we will AT LEAST know what we have. I believe the transition SHOULD be made during the bye week. Nothing in this world thats good is easy, eventually you have to be willing to jump in head first. Time to JUMP!

this is a laughable suggestion.

don't you guys really that a "bus driver" is all we need, and that Defense wins Super Bowls? This is why we drafted the pretty strawberry blonde last year and not Leinart or Cutler.

we haven't needed a QB in almost 10 years. so why should we start "needing" one now?

bottom line is QB's are WAAAAAAY overrated. and they are not even really necessary. actually, who needs a Carson Palmer type? when we can probably win our next Super Bowl with Patrick Crayton under center when you really think about it.

:lmao:

[Avenging Hayseed]

I believe Bledsoe has been to the Super Bowl. Correct me if I'm wrong.....YEP, where he FAILED miserably. Making the SAME mistakes, patting the ball, not feeling the rush, throwing INTS, that 12 years later, he is STILL making. Good point. THANX

[superpunk]

....YEP, where he FAILED miserably. Making the SAME mistakes, patting the ball, not feeling the rush, throwing INTS, that 12 years later, he is STILL making. Good point. THANX

Someone should have told Bledsoe to tackle Desmond Howard.

[Avenging Hayseed]

....YEP, where he FAILED miserably. Making the SAME mistakes, patting the ball, not feeling the rush, throwing INTS, that 12 years later, he is STILL making. Good point. THANX OBVIOUSLY, Bledsoe STILL keeps putting his hand on a hot frying pan like a moron would do!.....HEEE HEEEE

[peplaw06]

....YEP, where he FAILED miserably. Making the SAME mistakes, patting the ball, not feeling the rush, throwing INTS, that 12 years later, he is STILL making. Good point. THANX

Try to keep up. For the purposes of your metaphor, this ship has SEEN the mainland. If you think you've fixed the problems that prevented you getting there, do you go with that ship or one that would be like giving up... if you have one shot??

[peplaw06]

OBVIOUSLY, Bledsoe STILL keeps putting his hand on a hot frying pan like a moron would do!.....HEEE HEEEE

You can't even keep track of your own metaphors. Nice.

[superpunk]

OBVIOUSLY, Bledsoe STILL keeps putting his hand on a hot frying pan like a moron would do!.....HEEE HEEEE

This thread has gone to hell.

[Avenging Hayseed]

Someone should have told Bledsoe to tackle Desmond Howard. No, but somebody should have taught him BY NOW to quit throwing untimely picks, throw the ball away, feel the rush, quit taking the big sack. OOOOOHHHH WAIT, they did all try to teach thee old dog those tricks. Unfortunatly after 14 years of training, he still cant learn. He's still putting his hand to the fire...

[Avenging Hayseed]

This thread has gone to hell. Take it easy, dang its only the internet. Your frustrated from trying to defend something thats indefensable. If Bledsoe hasnt corrected those problems after FOURTEEN YEARS.......GUESS WHAT????He's never gonna. Simple as that.

[superpunk]

No, but somebody should have taught him BY NOW to quit throwing untimely picks, throw the ball away, feel the rush, quit taking the big sack. OOOOOHHHH WAIT, they did all try to teach thee old dog those tricks. Unfortunatly after 14 years of training, he still cant learn. He's still putting his hand to the fire...

He did that for 10 games last year.

He has a chance with a healthy line to continue doing it this year.

He did most of the things you said well on Sunday, he just made some terrible decisions. Three terrible decisions. And we only lost by 7 to a good team.

If you think he can't improve on THAT performance, fine, whatever, there's no use talking to you. I think he;s better than a 3 INT per game guy. Call me crazy.

[peplaw06]

This thread has gone to hell. :hammer:

I think another sign of insanity is refusing to try to reason when you are so invested in a position.

But then again, maybe I'm insane for trying to reason with the insane.

[superpunk]

Take it easy, dang its only the internet. Your frustrated from trying to defend something thats indefensable. If Bledsoe hasnt corrected those problems after FOURTEEN YEARS.......GUESS WHAT????He's never gonna. Simple as that.

It has nothing to do with defending anything. It has to do with botched metaphors that are confusing you, and you responding to yourself.

[peplaw06]

Take it easy, dang its only the internet. Your frustrated from trying to defend something thats indefensable. If Bledsoe hasnt corrected those problems after FOURTEEN YEARS.......GUESS WHAT????He's never gonna. Simple as that.

What's Bledsoe's TD:INT ratio over those 14 years? I'm pretty sure it's not 1:3. but go on believing Bledsoe isn't better than what we saw last week.:rolleyes:

[Avenging Hayseed]

Hey, I KNOW! For the last 14 years every Sunday I turn on the tv in October at noon and theres an NFL game on. Maybe for some crazy reason when I turn it on this Sunday theres gonna be Mongolian mudwresting on! LOL. Nahhhhhhhh, I dont think so, the 14 year track record would seem to indicate a pretty consistant pattern!....LOL

[superpunk]

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/23/237968.jpg

This thread sucks.

[peplaw06]

Hey, I KNOW! For the last 14 years every Sunday I turn on the tv in October at noon and theres an NFL game on. Maybe for some crazy reason when I turn it on this Sunday theres gonna be Mongolian mudwresting on! LOL. Nahhhhhhhh, I dont think so, the 14 year track record would seem to indicate a pretty consistant pattern!....LOL

And CowboysZone has reached a new low...

[Avenging Hayseed]

What's Bledsoe's TD:INT ratio over those 14 years? I'm pretty sure it's not 1:3. but go on believing Bledsoe isn't better than what we saw last week.:rolleyes:......WHEN are you going to GET that I am NOT talking about last Sunday? Ive said over and over again I am talking about a FOURTEEN YEAR history of what we can expect from Drew Bledsoe.

[Avenging Hayseed]

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/23/237968.jpg

This thread sucks. Then WHY prey tell are YOU such an active participant in it? You must enjoy suckyyness I guess. :bang2:

[superpunk]

......WHEN are you going to GET that I am NOT talking about last Sunday? Ive said over and over again I am talking about a FOURTEEN YEAR history of what we can expect from Drew Bledsoe.

His 14 year, borderline HOF career? A guy who's been extremely successful with Parcells? A guy who played very well and wise last year when he had his starting LT healthy? Don't let all THOSE facts get in your way.

If it had nothing to to with Sunday's game, where was this thread before the season?

[superpunk]

Then WHY prey tell are YOU such an active participant in it? You must enjoy suckyyness I guess. :bang2:

It had potential. Unfortunately, you're taking the potential out to the woodshed and lopping it's head off.

Or, I'm just participating to let you know how much it sucks.

I dunno.

[Doomsday101]

......WHEN are you going to GET that I am NOT talking about last Sunday? Ive said over and over again I am talking about a FOURTEEN YEAR history of what we can expect from Drew Bledsoe.

And if BP felt the same way about 14 years of history Bledsoe would not be here. The reason he is here is Parcells feels he can win with Bledsoe. It really does not matter how you or I feel we are not the HC of the Cowboys BP is and right now BP has chosen Bledsoe as the starting QB of the Cowboys and that is just the way it is.

[Avenging Hayseed]

His 14 year, borderline HOF career? A guy who's been extremely successful with Parcells? A guy who played very well and wise last year when he had his starting LT healthy? Don't let all THOSE facts get in your way.

If it had nothing to to with Sunday's game, where was this thread before the season?.....Would you say RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, that our O line is in the shape it needs to be in for Drew Bledsoe to take us to a Superbowl???????? I wouldnt. That also weighs heavily into the equation. I am merely being truthfull about the hand we were dealt.

[THEHEREAFTER]

My biggest beef is what is Drew's valued experience doing for him? Experienced QB's take care of the ball and gives his team a chance to win. It's not the fact that he threw int's... it's when and how. They were just awful. I would feel great if I believed that his miscues and horrid play Sunday was just an abberation but it isn't. THIS IS WHAT DREW DOES. Has anybody looked up his playoff statistics? Drew needs a pretty clean pocket which won't happen all the time.

[KingTuna]

His 14 year, borderline HOF career? A guy who's been extremely successful with Parcells? A guy who played very well and wise last year when he had his starting LT healthy? Don't let all THOSE facts get in your way.

If it had nothing to to with Sunday's game, where was this thread before the season?


Very good points...OF course, you have to be careful with facts. Some people cannot process them as well as others!!!
:laugh1:

[Avenging Hayseed]

And if BP felt the same way about 14 years of history Bledsoe would not be here. The reason he is here is Parcells feels he can win with Bledsoe. It really does not matter how you or I feel we are not the HC of the Cowboys BP is and right now BP has chosen Bledsoe as the starting QB of the Cowboys and that is just the way it is....I too believe Parcells can WIN with Bledsoe. I just dont believe he can win a Superbowl with Bledsoe with the current team we have. THAT is my main concern. Gotta run. Check backlater. Should be fun! No hard feelings just good debate....

[superpunk]

.....Would you say RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, that our O line is in the shape it needs to be in for Drew Bledsoe to take us to a Superbowl???????? I wouldnt. That also weighs heavily into the equation. I am merely being truthfull about the hand we were dealt.

It was good enough on sunday. Bledsoe wasn't.

That's the difference. I think the line was playing up to it's potential. They held their own against one of the best Olines in the league. If everyone played as well as our Oline did against the Jags last sunday, they wouldn't have finished last season with 47 sacks.

Bledsoe, OTOH, played awful. We have NO reason to think he will continue to play like that. He will not continue to make those mistakes.

IF our line continues playing that well, and Bledsoe improves, it will be a scary team to contend with. It pretty much was on sundauy, Bledsoe was just off. IF he continues to be off - I'll jump to the Romo "ship". But there is no reason to say Romo needs to see the field, in the forseeable future.

[Stautner]

My biggest beef is what is Drew's valued experience doing for him? Experienced QB's take care of the ball and gives his team a chance to win. It's not the fact that he threw int's... it's when and how. They were just awful. I would feel great if I believed that his miscues and horrid play Sunday was just an abberation but it isn't. THIS IS WHAT DREW DOES. Has anybody looked up his playoff statistics? Drew needs a pretty clean pocket which won't happen all the time.

This is crap. Drew does not typically have 3 interception games and make decisions as poorly as he did Sunday - if he did he would have been out of the league in 4 years rather than playing/starting in his 14th year.

Drew does have his shortcomings, but to say Sunday was the norm is bogus.

[DLCassidy]

It was good enough on sunday. Bledsoe wasn't.

That's the difference. I think the line was playing up to it's potential. They held their own against one of the best Olines in the league. If everyone played as well as our Oline did against the Jags last sunday, they wouldn't have finished last season with 47 sacks.

Bledsoe, OTOH, played awful. We have NO reason to think he will continue to play like that. He will not continue to make those mistakes.

IF our line continues playing that well, and Bledsoe improves, it will be a scary team to contend with. It pretty much was on sundauy, Bledsoe was just off. IF he continues to be off - I'll jump to the Romo "ship". But there is no reason to say Romo needs to see the field, in the forseeable future.

Sensible post. People need to take a breath and realize that every QB, no matter how talented, will have bad games, the best limit it to 2-3 a year. Bledsoe was way off Sunday and it's possible, maybe even likely, he was dinged up some and that had an effect on his accuracy. In any case this game coming up is much bigger than last week's. DB has to show up in this game. Remember last year he played well in the first game and then we ended up losing week 2 to the skins, which effectively kept us out of the playoffs. So 1-1 this year is actually ahead of last year's pace.

[peplaw06]

Bledsoe's Career TD:INT ratio is 245:201. If every week were like last Sunday and he had 245 TDs, his ratio would be 245:735. Definitely not the norm.

It's not the best ratio ever, but that's the nature of a gunslinger mentality. Favre is the biggest example of this. Guys have confidence in their arms, and feel they can fit it anywhere. that used to be Bledsoe's mentality. Bill has been trying to break him of it. Sometimes he regresses, but for the most part, last season he showed he's past that.

[802dave]

...I too believe Parcells can WIN with Bledsoe. I just dont believe he can win a Superbowl with Bledsoe with the current team we have. THAT is my main concern. Gotta run. Check backlater. Should be fun! No hard feelings just good debate....

That's the best point you've made in this thread - I was starting to get worried about you for a while (where are the men in the white coats...).

With the current team the Boys have (on offense), neither QB will likely win a Super Bowl.

Parcells is going with the guy he has experience with; the guy that has thrown for over 40,000 yards in his career. Parcells is trying to get Romo ready to play in the regular season; he's brought Romo along like Landry used to do with his QB's - something that a few baseball players didn't get an opportunity to do... but that's an old worn out story!!!

Let's use the bus driver analogy for a minute: For now, Bledsoe is the bus driver; he has a much better resume than the backup bus driver; the backup bus driver hasn't been allowed to take the bus out on the street in traffic yet - he's been practicing around the parking lot for a while now...
Now let's take a look at the bus - the offensive bus. We've put some nice new wheels and some new tires on it and it looks better; but under that bus, there's a suspect suspension. The Suspension (offensive line) had some rust on it and a broken spring or two and JJ spent a little money fixing and replacing those parts.

Was it enough? We don't know yet. This past Sunday, the bus driver took out a few road signs. Was it totally his fault? At first glance, some of us would say "yeah!". End of analogy...

The run blocking and running game hasn't done much yet and that puts more pressure on the QB to produce.

You can't just look at the QB and say he's not doing his job; you have to look at the offense as a whole - and it starts in the trenches. If the offensive line isn't run blocking or pass blocking well enough, your offense will suffer.

Bledsoe had one bad game so far and yes he's had other bad games in his career; but he's had a boarderline HOF career; he's played well for Parcells before, I expect he will again.

I'd like to see what Romo can do in real games too, but it'll happen when it's time. Parcells does like Romo and I think he's bringing him along properly. Let's see how it plays out. Let's see how Bledsoe plays this week before we say he's finished...

I'm just as interested in how well this offensive line is going to gel as I am in the QB situation, but it's going to take more than a game or two!!!

Dave

[Avenging Hayseed]

That's the best point you've made in this thread - I was starting to get worried about you for a while (where are the men in the white coats...).

With the current team the Boys have (on offense), neither QB will likely win a Super Bowl.

Parcells is going with the guy he has experience with; the guy that has thrown for over 40,000 yards in his career. Parcells is trying to get Romo ready to play in the regular season; he's brought Romo along like Landry used to do with his QB's - something that a few baseball players didn't get an opportunity to do... but that's an old worn out story!!!

Let's use the bus driver analogy for a minute: For now, Bledsoe is the bus driver; he has a much better resume than the backup bus driver; the backup bus driver hasn't been allowed to take the bus out on the street in traffic yet - he's been practicing around the parking lot for a while now...
Now let's take a look at the bus - the offensive bus. We've put some nice new wheels and some new tires on it and it looks better; but under that bus, there's a suspect suspension. The Suspension (offensive line) had some rust on it and a broken spring or two and JJ spent a little money fixing and replacing those parts.

Was it enough? We don't know yet. This past Sunday, the bus driver took out a few road signs. Was it totally his fault? At first glance, some of us would say "yeah!". End of analogy...

The run blocking and running game hasn't done much yet and that puts more pressure on the QB to produce.

You can't just look at the QB and say he's not doing his job; you have to look at the offense as a whole - and it starts in the trenches. If the offensive line isn't run blocking or pass blocking well enough, your offense will suffer.

Bledsoe had one bad game so far and yes he's had other bad games in his career; but he's had a boarderline HOF career; he's played well for Parcells before, I expect he will again.

I'd like to see what Romo can do in real games too, but it'll happen when it's time. Parcells does like Romo and I think he's bringing him along properly. Let's see how it plays out. Let's see how Bledsoe plays this week before we say he's finished...

I'm just as interested in how well this offensive line is going to gel as I am in the QB situation, but it's going to take more than a game or two!!!

Dave.....Ive pretty much been saying that from the start.....

[superpunk]

.....Ive pretty much been saying that from the start.....

http://www.bits.bris.ac.uk/bigredrod/orly.jpg

Here goes......I truly believe we should start Romo after the bye week.....Its time to see what we have in Romo. .. We cant go on riding the tiger like were doing. ....I believe the transition SHOULD be made during the bye week. Nothing in this world thats good is easy, eventually you have to be willing to jump in head first. Time to JUMP!

[peplaw06]

...I too believe Parcells can WIN with Bledsoe. I just dont believe he can win a Superbowl with Bledsoe with the current team we have. THAT is my main concern. Gotta run. Check backlater. Should be fun! No hard feelings just good debate....

Sorry, that's not what you've been saying this whole thread. you may have started out that way (??) but you said on Page 3 I DONT BELIEVE HE IS A SUPER BOWL WINNING QB. That sounds like you think he can't get it done no matter who's on the team, that he can't even be a "bus driver."

[Doomsday101]

Sorry, that's not what you've been saying this whole thread. you may have started out that way (??) but you said on Page 3 That sounds like you think he can't get it done no matter who's on the team, that he can't even be a "bus driver."


The thread did not even start off as he is trying to portray now. It is pretty clear he wants Bledsoe removed and Romo starting after the bye week. His own quote “I truly believe we should start Romo after the bye week”

[802dave]

Where are the guys in the white coats??? ;-)

[baj1dallas]

..............We can beat the Redskins 50 to nothing and it STILL wont change my opinion. AT ALL. Its NOT that I dont think Bledsoe is a decent QB, I DO. Its just that I DONT BELIEVE HE IS A SUPER BOWL WINNING QB. The objective is always the same, to get to, and WIN a superbowl. Drew has a track record that points to him being highly unlikely of achieving THAT objective. A 14 year track record. THAT is why I am for making the switch...


How many years did it take John Elway to win a superbowl?

[Avenging Hayseed]

Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth

[jbsg02]

I don't see Parcells benching Bledsoe for a rookie unless he truly believed that Romo would do better than him NOW. This could be Parcells last year and would want to go out with atleast 10 wins.

[REDVOLUTION]

Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth

Here is the problem I have with this post... you cant use historical facts to determine the result of something that hasnt happened yet....

[802dave]

How many years did it take John Elway to win a superbowl?

Well, Bledsoe ain't exactly Elway, but you get an Amen anyways...

Amen!

[Stautner]

Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth

AS long as evidence is what you are relying on .......

The thing you conveniently fail to recognize is that there is a hell of a lot more evidence to suggest Bledsoe can win than Romo.

But I'm sure in that case you don't think evidence matters.

But, for the time being let's stick with what you did say. By your own admission we can have a winning record and get to the playoffs with Bledsoe ....... on the other hand we have no idea if we can do the same with Romo. Are we willing to take a chance on throwing away a winning record and the playoffs on a gamble?

The obvious, logical answer is that if Bledsoe continues to struggle we should make a move, but if he plays well this week then your idea of starting Romo after the break makes no sense.

But for some, obvious, logical answers don't appear to work - even for those who claim to be concerned with evidence.

[peplaw06]

Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth

You have no evidence that will tell you 100% what's going to happen in the future. You have trends you see that make you believe that he can't win a Super Bowl with this team, but that's just your opinion.

Even if you do believe that, do you believe that Romo can win the Super Bowl with this team?? I haven't seen you making that case, so I'll assume you don't. I hate to break it to you, but the goal this season is to win the Super Bowl. It's the same goal every season, but it's more realistic this year than it has been in a while. So if you want to give up on the season after one game, you go right ahead and do that. But I (and most fans) am not ready to give up on the season after one game, and BP isn't either.

There's not "truth" one way or the other yet. It's just your hunch. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you are being knee-jerk. You ARE giving up on the season after one game, and that's the epitome of knee-jerk.

Before the games on Sunday started, the Cowboys Huddle was on with Babe Laufenberg, and he had BP on there. He asked BP why the first week was important... and BP said that "after the first week, there are 16 teams who wonder if they'll ever win a game." And the fans of those 16 teams think the same thing, that it'll never happen. If those teams just gave up like you're doing, this would be a single elimination tournament and would last 4 games. There would also be a lot of Super Bowl winners who would have never made it. If you can't see that that's what you're doing, then I can't help you. But I hope you don't mind if I don't give up yet.

[tecolote]

So Trent Dilfer can win a Superbowl, but Drew Bledsoe can't?

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Also Dilfer didn´t lose games, Bledsoe does.

[Kittymama]

Oh GOOD. A BENCH BLEDSOE post. BOY we CAN'T get ENOUGH OF THESE.

[Avenging Hayseed]

You have no evidence that will tell you 100% what's going to happen in the future. You have trends you see that make you believe that he can't win a Super Bowl with this team, but that's just your opinion.

Even if you do believe that, do you believe that Romo can win the Super Bowl with this team?? I haven't seen you making that case, so I'll assume you don't. I hate to break it to you, but the goal this season is to win the Super Bowl. It's the same goal every season, but it's more realistic this year than it has been in a while. So if you want to give up on the season after one game, you go right ahead and do that. But I (and most fans) am not ready to give up on the season after one game, and BP isn't either.

There's not "truth" one way or the other yet. It's just your hunch. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you are being knee-jerk. You ARE giving up on the season after one game, and that's the epitome of knee-jerk.

Before the games on Sunday started, the Cowboys Huddle was on with Babe Laufenberg, and he had BP on there. He asked BP why the first week was important... and BP said that "after the first week, there are 16 teams who wonder if they'll ever win a game." And the fans of those 16 teams think the same thing, that it'll never happen. If those teams just gave up like you're doing, this would be a single elimination tournament and would last 4 games. There would also be a lot of Super Bowl winners who would have never made it. If you can't see that that's what you're doing, then I can't help you. But I hope you don't mind if I don't give up yet. Im not giving up on the season at all. What Romo can do with the starting unit is YET to be proven. Wont know till he's inserted. Something tells me im going to have an interesting time reading the boards in the not so distant future. ;) Although im NOT an "I told you so" kinda poster. I just wanna win. Time will tell, and tell ya what, if time is on anyone 's side in this thing its on Romo's.

[Stautner]

Im not giving up on the season at all. What Romo can do with the starting unit is YET to be proven. Wont know till he's inserted. Something tells me im going to have an interesting time reading the boards in the not so distant future. ;) Although im NOT an "I told you so" kinda poster. I just wanna win. Time will tell, and tell ya what, if time is on anyone 's side in this thing its on Romo's.

You are right - what Romo can do for us is yet to be proven. He could succeed or fail. If we do as you suggest and he fails, then the season is lost - which means that you ARE willing to give up on the season in order to test the waters with Romo.

On the other hand, we know we can win with Bledsoe - we did it last year and should have at least as good or better chance this year. Winning the Super Bowl may be another thing entirely, but by your own admission we can have a winning record and go to the playoffs with Bledsoe. So your plan proves that you are willing to risk giving up on a winning record and the playoffs to test the waters with Romo.

The ONLY logical thing is to play it out for another week or two - if Bledsoe continues to play poorly then we have nothing to lose by putting in Romo, but if he plays well and wins games then it would be absolutely riduculous to make a change and risk missing out on a winning record and the playoffs.

[Doomsday101]

You are right - what Romo can do for us is yet to be proven. He could succeed or fail. If we do as you suggest and he fails, then the season is lost - which means that you ARE willing to give up on the season in order to test the waters with Romo.

On the other hand, we know we can win with Bledsoe - we did it last year and should have at least as good or better chance this year. Winning the Super Bowl may be another thing entirely, but by your own admission we can have a winning record and go to the playoffs with Bledsoe. So your plan proves that you are willing to risk giving up on a winning record and the playoffs to test the waters with Romo.

The ONLY logical thing is to play it out for another week or two - if Bledsoe continues to play poorly then we have nothing to lose by putting in Romo, but if he plays well and wins games then it would be absolutely riduculous to make a change and risk missing out on a winning record and the playoffs.

I agree. For me I like Romo and hope he gets a chance but this is not the time to take such a risk. Later in the season if things are going bad then I would have no issue with giving Romo an oppertunity but at this stage I think a move like this would do more harm than good for the overall team. Once you make a move like that there would be no turning back

[Stautner]

I agree. For me I like Romo and hope he gets a chance but this is not the time to take such a risk. Later in the season if things are going bad then I would have no issue with giving Romo an oppertunity but at this stage I think a move like this would do more harm than good for the overall team. Once you make a move like that there would be no turning back

I don't even have any problems turning things over to Romo fairly early in the year if Bledsoe is showing a pattern of poor or even average play and the offense is struggling, but clearly one week into the season is much too early. If Bledsoe plays poorly again Sunday i will warm up to the idea much more, and if he plays poorly in 3 straight games, or even 3 out of 4, then I would support a move.

[Avenging Hayseed]

I said after the bye week. HEY, At least I didnt say for the Washington game!

[Stautner]

I said after the bye week. HEY, At least I didnt say for the Washington game!

If you had said "after the bye week IF Bledsoe has another bad game this week" then that would have been more reasonable.

Suggesting we change after the bye week regardless doesn't make sense.

[DipChit]

Suggesting we change after the bye week regardless doesn't make sense.

Unless Drew throws 3 picks against BYE too.. then there'd be cause for drastic measures. ;)

[Stautner]

Unless Drew throws 3 picks against BYE too.. then there'd be cause for drastic measures. ;)

I hear BYE has a good defense, so who knows ......