Watching the Jags tonight...

[Draegerman]

...gives me pause in realizing just how good our Cowboys truly are.

I knew that the Jags/Steelers matchup was going to be a great defensive battle tonight, but I could easily see Jacksonville up by 14 points right now if they hadn't gone so darn conservative in the 1st half. The point is that they are thoroughly dominating the Steelers right now and should by all accounts win this football game.

I think that had we watched the Jags play the Steelers first in the regular season and then we played them the following week with the same outcome for both games, we probably would have come out of our matchup feeling a little more positive about the loss.

The Jags are just that good - but I still believe that we're better.

Thoughts?

[MissionCoach]

The Jags D is Definitely playing lights out tonight against Pitt. Of course this is a heated rivalry...Jags always bring their A game against the Steelers.

We lost to a very good Jaguar team...Unfortunately it was a very winable game for us.

[Deep_Freeze]

It definitely makes you wonder how we were so dominant in the beginning of our game. Then Bledsoe got hurt, and we were done. A team that beat us playing this tough does make us look better.

[jimnabby]

It's lower-scoring, but this 3rd quarter against PIT looks kind of familiar.

Methinks Jacksonville's a pretty good team.

[Draegerman]

It definitely makes you wonder how we were so dominant in the beginning of our game. Then Bledsoe got hurt, and we were done. A team that beat us playing this tough does make us look better.
Yep, that's precisely what I was thinking. To watch the Steelers struggle on offense (I mean really struggle), makes me feel really good about how easily the Cowboys scored 10 on them so quickly.

This matchup was also suppose to be big for Pittsburgh too. Everyone kept trumping up Big Ben's "coming out party" for this game. The Jags aren't buying into it and refused to let the loss of their pro-bowl DE in the Dallas game affect their play tonight.

[tomson75]

Interesting enough, ESPN picked tonight to do a film about how well the pittsburgh fans travel with their team...to the point that they were suggesting that the Jags' home-field advantage would be minimal. Everyone picked the Steelers.

Thus far, everyone is wrong on all accounts...but its still a close game.

[NickZepp]

If we played em in Dallas it woulda been a win. Playing on the road in the NFL ain't easy. Especially to start the season.

[Screw The Hall]

It's lower-scoring, but this 3rd quarter against PIT looks kind of familiar.

Methinks Jacksonville's a pretty good team.


I picked Jax to beat us. Not becuase I don't think we are gonna have a good season, but because I don't think we play a tougher game all season long. A 12-4 hardnosed football team on the road ... tough assignment for anyone. Just ask the Steelers.

[stag hunter]

Jags are one solid offseason/draft away from the SB in my opinion..

[Draegerman]

It's lower-scoring, but this 3rd quarter against PIT looks kind of familiar.

Methinks Jacksonville's a pretty good team.
Dude, you're stealing my thunder. ;)

[Maikeru-sama]

Well to me it hurts even more.

I was ready for this team and this defense to take a step forward and beat a STRONG team such as the Jaguars on the road in a hostile environment.

I just cant get excited about whoopin up on the Deadskins.

This game tonight is having the opposite effect on me.

- Mike G.

[Draegerman]

Jags are one solid offseason/draft away from the SB in my opinion..
Stag, I honestly believe that the Jags are Superbowl contenders right now. The only teams that could possibly stop them in the AFC are the Colts and perhaps the Chargers.

[InmanRoshi]

Roethlesberger is being exposed in this game. If you can take away the Steelers run (admittedly, easier said than done) and make Roethlesberger beat you with his arm the Steelers will be lucky to put up 6 points.

I hope the Jags win just so I don't have to watch Cowher making out with his players again.

[peplaw06]

On a side note... I think Pittsburgh has a pretty bad offense. Parker doesn't scare me much, he's like a smaller Tyson Thompson. Ward isn't one of those WRs who commands double teams every play. Big Ben is better as a bus driver.

Even Week 1, yeah Batch played, but offense to offense, I think Miami was better, and we all saw what happened to them this week. If not for Culpepper making a couple mistakes, Miami probably would have won.

I think this season the Super Bowl curse reverses. Last season's WINNER won't make it to the playoffs, but the loser will... My AFC playoff teams. Indy, Jax, NE, SD, Cincy, Baltimore.

[whcarm]

Stag, I honestly believe that the Jags are Superbowl contenders right now. The only teams that could possibly stop them in the AFC are the Colts and perhaps the Chargers.

Let's wait for the Chargers to play a decent team before we start saying they could play with teams like the Colts or the Jags. So far they have played the worse two teams in the NFL.

[peplaw06]

Let's wait for the Chargers to play a decent team before we start saying they could play with teams like the Colts or the Jags. So far they have played the worse two teams in the NFL.

The rest of their division doesn't look great though. KC and Denver played an awfully boring game this week. I think SD could easily win that division, even going 9-7 or so.

And to think the AFC West was touted as better than the AFC North and NFC East by some "experts."

[peplaw06]

Ben just held his side. He can't be fully healed yet. He took a shot.

[PJCOWBOYS]

Jags still don't impress me with their offense. Leftwich isn't a superbowl caliber QB yet. He has to at least take them to the AFC championship game before I say that. Their defense is definately excellent. But their recievers are still nothing special. Yes, they have moments they look good, but come on. This is only game 2 so far. Wait until the 2nd half of the season before we proclaim them superbowl bound.

[Deep_Freeze]

Ben just held his side. He can't be fully healed yet. He took a shot.

Interesting, missed that.

[J-DOG]

ESPN just put up the score from the first game of the season trying to show how good the Jags are now.
I am not disagreeing but....the score was 24-17 not 28-17.

Damn ESPN get your facts straight!

[jordan20]

Interesting, missed that.
Mike Peterson just lead with the crown of his helmet and hit him in the chest. No flag and I'm sure no fine.

[CATCH17]

Im glad we got one of the Jags LB's on our defense. He played on a tough defense and so far hes looked pretty good.

[DLCassidy]

I think how you perceive this also has something to do with whether you think our struggles after the first couple series had something to do with Bledsoe getting dinged. If you look at how DB threw last night, which was generally accurate, I think he wasn't right after he got popped in the JV game. Of course JV has a good D also. But I think if we had another shot at them it would come out differently.

[KD]

Is that Bledsoe out there?

[Death Star]

Rashid Mathis INT #2 seals the deal.

[J-DOG]

Mike Peterson just lead with the crown of his helmet and hit him in the chest. No flag and I'm sure no fine.
Good point!
The way the NFL levies these fines has no rhyme or reason.

[Hostile]

Thank you J-Ville. I feel a little better about last week.

A little...

[THEHEREAFTER]

Guys, I could really see the deadskins dropping the next two. Jax in two weeks is rock solid as we know and @ the Texans is not a lock for them. Not with the way they're playing, to be on the road with low confidence. Carr's QB rating is really high and given time he, Moulds and Johnson could do something. Back to the topic, yeah the Jags are really tough.

[es22]

JAX matches well with Pittsburgh. Strength vs strength.

I was dissappointed as we didnt play balanced on offence, and didn't utilize our passing game to its potential.

[DLCassidy]

Thank you J-Ville. I feel a little better about last week.

A little...

Bledsoe had his worst game as a Cowboy and we still got 17 and outgained JV. And that's with what was probably a back issue of some variety. But having said that the game still bothers me some.

[whcarm]

Definitely makes you feel better about Bledsoe and our offense. The whole week before the game and the week after the game people were just focusing on how poorly our offense played and not giving any props to the Jag's defense. Well, they just showed that they are for real (even without one of their best linemen, who got hurt during our game).

We played poorly, but they played really well. They have a very good team. If we had played at home and not during rain, it may have turned out differently. But they totally shut down Pittsburgh. Our offense did better than Pittsburgh's did tonight.

[Draegerman]

Jags still don't impress me with their offense. Leftwich isn't a superbowl caliber QB yet. He has to at least take them to the AFC championship game before I say that. Their defense is definately excellent. But their recievers are still nothing special. Yes, they have moments they look good, but come on. This is only game 2 so far. Wait until the 2nd half of the season before we proclaim them superbowl bound.
Yes, but that same arguement could have been said of Roethlisberger last year before he led his team to the Superbowl.

And where is it written that it's too early to be talking about Superbowl contenders? Just because it's only Week 2 doesn't mean folks aren't going to start making predictions about which teams look to be "pretenders or contenders".

It happens all the time and it's going to continue to happen long after you and I are having our diapers changed. ;)

[PJCOWBOYS]

Uh...I think Pittsburg had a notable pro bowl reciever while the Jags have who? Matt Jones? Yes, the Jags have big recievers, but their offense isn't superbowl quaility yet.

Yes, but that same arguement could have been said of Roethlisberger last year before he led his team to the Superbowl.

And where is it written that it's too early to be talking about Superbowl contenders? Just because it's only Week 2 doesn't mean folks aren't going to start making predictions about which teams look to be "pretenders or contenders".

It happens all the time and it's going to continue to happen long after you and I are having our diapers changed. ;)

[NickZepp]

Pittsburgh just is so physical. They are probably actually a bad matchup for us. Especially with their D. But they aren't as good as they were a year ago on offense. They don't have another WR like they had with Randel El. They didn't have Troy Polawutshisname tonight so that hurt their D some.

[tomson75]

They didn't have Troy Polawutshisname tonight so that hurt their D some.


Yes they did.

[tommyboy10]

New on here...and let me say I love this board compared to The Ranch.

I still can't help but think that if we kept spreading the ball around against the Jags, we could've really run away with that game early...Instead, it seems that we just were content to play Tunaball---get a 7-10 point lead and run and try to drain the clock. We have too many weapons to have to do that. Call me Steve Spurrier, but I think every time we are on offense, we should try to put points on the board. Lord knows we have the right weapons to do it. Tunaball takes us out of rhythm, and the Drew has to try to force things and make bad decisions later on in the game. Just my opinion.

I do think the Jags are legit though---and that early loss might have actually been a good thing for us down the road.

GO COWBOYS!

[Draegerman]

Uh...I think Pittsburg had a notable pro bowl reciever while the Jags have who? Matt Jones? Yes, the Jags have big recievers, but their offense isn't superbowl quaility yet.
Two words for you: Baltimore Ravens

Just look at how great that offense was when they won their Superbowl. :rolleyes:

[REDVOLUTION]

If we played em in Dallas it woulda been a win. Playing on the road in the NFL ain't easy. Especially to start the season.

We lost that game on the road.

We had opportunity to win that game on road.

Agreed that at home we beat them... but we had them beat in their house. We didnt close the deal.

Lets sync up and meet them in SB....:star:

[Tuna Helper]

Two words for you: Baltimore Ravens

Just look at how great that offense was when they won their Superbowl. :rolleyes:


Exactly. Gotta give some props to JAX's defense. They played 2 tough games against pretty good teams and came away with great performances.

If their offense starts to come around, the rest of the AFC had better look out.

[PJCOWBOYS]

Don't compare the Jags D with Baltimores then. Get real. And remember Rothlisburger was playing sick tonight, with a temp of around 100. He shouldn't have been playing.

Two words for you: Baltimore Ravens

Just look at how great that offense was when they won their Superbowl. :rolleyes:

[Da Hammer]

Jacksonville is proven they are a very good team but ah... we still should have beat them but Bledsoe had to get hurt or watever that made him start playing like crap

[Draegerman]

Don't compare the Jags D with Baltimores then. Get real. And remember Rothlisburger was playing sick tonight, with a temp of around 100. He shouldn't have been playing.
You were the one that contended that the Jags didn't have a Superbowl quality offense. I simply used the Ravens as an example that you don't necessarily need one if your defense is that good. Now granted, the Jags defense probably isn't the same caliber as the Ravens "D" but their offense is certainly better than what Baltimore had.

The question is are they good enough to win the Superbowl this year? That I can't say for certain, because the AFC has some very good teams that the Jags will have to face, (definitely stiffer competition than the Ravens had to face when they went on their Superbowl run back in 2001). Considering how well their defense is playing, they have as good of a chance as any AFC powerhouse has right now.

But just based on what I've seen so far with these first two games, I'm willing to bet that they're good enough to go deep into the playoffs and should quite possibly play for the AFC championship. After that, it's anybody's guess.

[Tuna Helper]

You were the one that contended that the Jags didn't have a Superbowl quality offense. I simply used the Ravens as an example that you don't necessarily need one if your defense is that good. Now granted, the Jags defense probably isn't the same caliber as the Ravens "D" but their offense is certainly better than what Baltimore had.

The question is are they good enough to win the Superbowl this year? That I can't say for certain, because the AFC has some very good teams that the Jags will have to face, (definitely stiffer competition than the Ravens had to face when they went on their Superbowl run back in 2001). Considering how well their defense is playing, they have as good of a chance as any AFC powerhouse has right now.

But just based on what I've seen so far with these first two games, I'm willing to bet that they're good enough to go deep into the playoffs and should quite possibly play for the AFC championship. After that, it's anybody's guess.

Byron Leftwich>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Trent Dilfer.


Enough said.

[kartr]

Rashid Mathis INT #2 seals the deal.

I keep telling everyone that he's better than Newman and how we messed up by not drafting Kevin Williams in the first and Mathis in the 2nd round. If I were picking, we'd have had K.Williams and Luis Castillo and Merriman plus Mathis. A killer pass rush and a 'true lock down corner' would have made us truly a great defense.

[Seven]

I keep telling everyone that he's better than Newman and how we messed up by not drafting Kevin Williams in the first and Mathis in the 2nd round. If I were picking, we'd have had K.Williams and Luis Castillo and Merriman plus Mathis. A killer pass rush and a 'true lock down corner' would have made us truly a great defense.

Gee. Sorry 'bout that Kartr, but I think even BP and JJ have you on ignore, no?

[Bob Sacamano]

katr, how's Omar Jacobs looking now? lol

[Seven]

katr, how's Omar Jacobs looking now? lol

OOOHHH, Shame on you summer. I wish I had your memory.

[Bob Sacamano]

I wish I had your memory.

it's a gift...and a curse :( ;)

[Seven]

it's a gift...and a curse :( ;)

:laugh2: True enough.

[tunahelper]

We should have beat the Jags, but we didnt...
This is my biggest concern. Why do we continue to allow teams to hang around?
Our running game needs to gel, in order for us to become an elite team in this league.

[CrazyCowboy]

I was thinking the same thing watching the game......we were one perfect pass from being up on the Jags 17-0 and our defense would have kicked in another gear......what a disappointment.....oh well.

[dbair1967]

I keep telling everyone that he's better than Newman and how we messed up by not drafting Kevin Williams in the first and Mathis in the 2nd round. If I were picking, we'd have had K.Williams and Luis Castillo and Merriman plus Mathis. A killer pass rush and a 'true lock down corner' would have made us truly a great defense.

I think you've been sampling some of your hero's herb ...Mathis is not as good as Newman

and we all pretty much know how great your talent evaluation is anyway, what with your belief that "Q-Bong Kartr" is an elite NFL player and that all 32 teams must somehow be incredibly stupid not to recognize all that elite ability just sitting there for the taking

David

[dbair1967]

katr, how's Omar Jacobs looking now? lol

Omar is an amazing talent, how can you question that?

Oh wait nevermind, Omar is unemployed too, just like his other hero

David

[Angus]

I think everybody is overlooking a significant factor in the losses of the Cowboys and Steelers to Jacksonville: the weather. Both the Dallas defense and the Pittsburg defense wilted in the heat and humidity. The Jacksonville team is a good one, I think, but I doubt it is as good away from home. It was a lack of endurance that did Dallas in there, I believe (over and above Bledsoe's lapses and the referees' mistakes).

[lspain1]

I think everybody is overlooking a significant factor in the losses of the Cowboys and Steelers to Jacksonville: the weather. Both the Dallas defense and the Pittsburg defense wilted in the heat and humidity. The Jacksonville team is a good one, I think, but I doubt it is as good away from home. It was a lack of endurance that did Dallas in there, I believe (over and above Bledsoe's lapses and the referees' mistakes).

Angus, I was at the Jacksonville game. It was humid but it was not hot. Our loss at Jacksonville was a team loss and they really can't blame the weather. Bledsoe had a very bad day at the office but the whole team showed some opening day 'rust' (not completely sorted out against the skins either).

[Cogan]

We & the refs beat us against JV. That should have been a TD for Witten. The way their CBs were pushing our WRs around, and then they throw a freaking flag against Witten, who is just getting position to catch the ball.....pitifull. Their offensive line also got away with plenty of holds.

The home team in the NFL is getting as bad as in the NBA, where the refs are so afraid of pissing off the fans, they nearly always over flag the visitors.

I'm writing this knowing the Jags whipped the Steelers, so I do feel very good about our team. The next time we play JV, in the SB, we finish the job with a dagger!