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Qwickdraw
09-19-2006, 04:56 PM
Koren Robinson will reportedly begin to work more with the Green Bay offense during practice and could eventually see extended time at wide receiver.

As usual, he's on his best behavior in a new place, reportedly taking a swing at a defender after one of his kick returns Sunday. "I was told about the exchange; I did not see it," coach Mike McCarthy said. "That's something that will be talked about."
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

Why does this guy still have a job?
Why is this guy getting paid the kind of money none of us will ever see in 10 lifetimes just to keep pissing his opportunities away?
Why is K-Rob treated like a must-have in the NFL when he's never been that good and had more dropped passes than any other player in the NFL when he was in his best position to succeed?
Why to teams feel the need to continue gambling on this loser when there are literally hundreds of Rectors and Hurds buried around the league that deserve more of a chance to play; some of whom might be more talented and appreciative?

The NFL needs to make an example of this guy for everyone else who thinks they are above the game and takes their priviledged position for granted.

Crown Royal
09-19-2006, 04:58 PM
Did your boss yell at you today?

Rack Bauer
09-19-2006, 04:58 PM
The "NFL" has nothing to do with that. It's the choices of each individual team.


It's not one entity that would have to do something about that, it's 32.



Other then that, I agree with you. That POS should be taking orders at McD's.

dbair1967
09-19-2006, 05:03 PM
handful of guys who dont deserve to be playing and should be busting rocks or making license plates instead (or in the case of Little, the chair)...

Leonard Little, Ray Lewis, K Robinson, Pac Thug Jones, Chris Henry...I'm sure there are more

David

joseephuss
09-19-2006, 05:05 PM
The "NFL" has nothing to do with that. It's the choices of each individual team.


It's not one entity that would have to do something about that, it's 32.



Other then that, I agree with you. That POS should be taking orders at McD's.

Green Bay would never make a choice like that according to their fans. :D

The NFL does it because enough fans accept it. Sports stars, entertainers and even politicians often get away with more than so called regular people. Maybe because they have more money. Maybe because regular people don't do enough to discourage bad behavior. Of course, there is no uniform definition of bad behavior. Whatever it his, Robinson is not the first, nor will he be the last. And this didn't just start in Green Bay. He was give preferential treatment for a large portion of his life because he can run, jump and catch every now and then.

sacase
09-19-2006, 05:11 PM
handful of guys who dont deserve to be playing and should be busting rocks or making license plates instead (or in the case of Little, the chair)...

Leonard Little, Ray Lewis, K Robinson, Pac Thug Jones, Chris Henry...I'm sure there are more

David

I am sorry what did Ray Lewis do exactly?

Pats Fan
09-19-2006, 05:13 PM
Straight up, I agree.

But the big story in Green Bay is Farve. He reminds me of Ali hanging on until the bitter end. Darn, it took away from him.

The team keeps Farve because he has been GB for so long, most of us cannot think of GB without thinking of Farve. It is a noble thing to do, and maybe the right thing. But I cannot help thinking, leave when the time is right. You were on top, people respected you (I still do), but if you hang on, well you lose something. Just my thoughts.

The guy needs to retire. The team needs to rebuild.

And no, I am not a Green Bay fan.

The30YardSlant
09-19-2006, 05:22 PM
What's wrong with the NFL

http://www.drdonnica.com/images/celeb_madden.jpg

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/07/21/PH2005072102117.jpg

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/29/297053.jpg

DallasDW00ds0n
09-19-2006, 05:23 PM
handful of guys who dont deserve to be playing and should be busting rocks or making license plates instead (or in the case of Little, the chair)...

Leonard Little, Ray Lewis, K Robinson, Pac Thug Jones, Chris Henry...I'm sure there are more

David

dont forget Sean Taylor

stag hunter
09-19-2006, 05:31 PM
What have Hurd and Rector done besides making a couple catches in the preseason? Even assuming either of them pan out, there are definitely not "literally hundreds" of guys like that... If it was that easy to find Undrafted talent at the position then no one WOULD waste their time with a guy like Robinson.. If Hurd or Rector ever end up catching more than 25 passes in a season they will have overcome HUGE odds to do so.... Of the 266 receivers drafted in the 3rd round or later, only 28 have reached 150 receptions. Of the 181 receivers drafted in the 4th or later, 124 caught less than 20 passes their entire career. NEITHER of those figures include all the undrafted WR's that float around the league for a few years then disappear. I guess I am digressing from Robinson here, but the point is that people seem to think that guys like Hurd and Rector are readily available just because we happen to have (maybe) found a pair of diamonds in the rough this year.

Pats Fan
09-19-2006, 05:34 PM
I like the guy. Just like old Howard Cosell (did I spell that right??). He is a funny guy with a great knowledge of the game.

I like the guy. Please don't put him in the rest of your group.

Yeagermeister
09-19-2006, 05:38 PM
If a player has talent someone will take a chance on him.

ravidubey
09-19-2006, 05:51 PM
Koren Robinson is a sick man who probably battles daily with an alcohol addiction. I wouldn't say that makes him a POS, expecially when he has tried to better himself.

He is experiencing backlash because many media people feel he made fools out of him. The truth is the one person he failed the most is himself; he needs support, if anything.

Thankfully the NFL has a clear and impartial drug policy that doesn't weigh public opinion and media bias (just the Commisioner's bias). Robinson has been punished under those rules by suspension and loss of income as is standard. If anything, staying employed at his chosen profession is his best chance to recover.

I'm far from liberal, but automatically barring a repeat addict from society is intolerant and mean-spirited. Ted Kennedy recklessly and selfishly killed someone, and yet has been a long-time fixture in the US Senate. I can't stand that he was neer punished for his crime, but at the same time I don't see how not ever giving him another chance, or even multiple chances, would be right either.

Pats Fan
09-19-2006, 06:06 PM
I'm a liberal. Darn proud one too. But what Kennedy did was wrong. He should have paid the price just like any one of us would have.

He has turned himself around and I'm sure has given much reflection for his actions.

The problem is our culture loves celebrity. If you are a star you can get away with just about anything. Not such a great thing.

Me, I don't much like celebrity with the rust. Cannot get past it.

We all make mistakes, but you know when you think you are above it all, time for us -- just us simple folks -- to say adios.

Just my thoughts.

Crown Royal
09-19-2006, 06:12 PM
Real people get second chances, plea bargains, plea downs, etc. everyday. I'm so tired of hearing how it is restricted to celebrities.

Pats Fan
09-19-2006, 06:18 PM
But surely, you do not think the odds are stacked evenly.

Got to disagree.

Crown Royal
09-19-2006, 06:24 PM
No, actually, I think being a celebrity skews it against them. I work with juries and attorneys often. Prosecutors benefit from the publicity of nailing a celebrity - it makes them look tough and keeps votes coming.

Juries are the same way - they see an overpaid prima donna while they are taking off work from the docks to sit in court. THey have little sympathy.

The only thing they have in their favor is competent defense attorneys. It is so much harder to prove criminal activity than a lay person seems to realize. If a competent defense attorney can mount a decent defense, the DA is often eager to plead down because they know that they face a likelihood that they can't get a conviction.

There is almost never a 'cut and dried' case. See Sean Taylor's case.

Tennione72
09-19-2006, 06:33 PM
Koren Robinson is a sick man who probably battles daily with an alcohol addiction. I wouldn't say that makes him a POS, expecially when he has tried to better himself.

He is experiencing backlash because many media people feel he made fools out of him. The truth is the one person he failed the most is himself; he needs support, if anything.

Thankfully the NFL has a clear and impartial drug policy that doesn't weigh public opinion and media bias (just the Commisioner's bias). Robinson has been punished under those rules by suspension and loss of income as is standard. If anything, staying employed at his chosen profession is his best chance to recover.

I'm far from liberal, but automatically barring a repeat addict from society is intolerant and mean-spirited. Ted Kennedy recklessly and selfishly killed someone, and yet has been a long-time fixture in the US Senate. I can't stand that he was neer punished for his crime, but at the same time I don't see how not ever giving him another chance, or even multiple chances, would be right either.




well said

dbair1967
09-19-2006, 06:39 PM
I am sorry what did Ray Lewis do exactly?

this is a joke right?

David

paladin78749
09-19-2006, 11:32 PM
No, actually, I think being a celebrity skews it against them. I work with juries and attorneys often. Prosecutors benefit from the publicity of nailing a celebrity - it makes them look tough and keeps votes coming.

Juries are the same way - they see an overpaid prima donna while they are taking off work from the docks to sit in court. THey have little sympathy.

The only thing they have in their favor is competent defense attorneys. It is so much harder to prove criminal activity than a lay person seems to realize. If a competent defense attorney can mount a decent defense, the DA is often eager to plead down because they know that they face a likelihood that they can't get a conviction.

There is almost never a 'cut and dried' case. See Sean Taylor's case.


Beg to differ. :)
The entire crux of this arguement with one of a "level playing field".
Power elites have access to lawyers and the mechanisms of law that most of us could not dream of. Their fame, power, money & influence effectively create 2 different tiers of law, or at very least, the selective rendering of those laws.
see O.J. Simpson

jrumann59
09-20-2006, 12:24 AM
OUr justice system is broken and corrupt. Most of the laws passed todya seem to be writtne by defense attorneys. In our justice system the richer you are the more heinous the crime you can get away with ask Jacko and OJ and Beretta