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Rampage
10-07-2006, 06:58 PM
anybody else happy the new york overpaid-babies got knocked out of the playoffs?

MC KAos
10-07-2006, 07:00 PM
I Am!!!!!!

DBoys
10-07-2006, 07:01 PM
anybody else happy the new york overpaid-babies got knocked out of the playoffs?


I dont watch baseball but I don't like the Yankees :D

EveryoneElse
10-07-2006, 07:01 PM
I would love to see "The Boss" dismantle the Yankees.

Starting with A-rod.

Rampage
10-07-2006, 07:02 PM
hell yeah a-rod chokes!

AbeBeta
10-07-2006, 07:02 PM
Many people equate the Cowboys and the Yankees.

lspain1
10-07-2006, 07:03 PM
It's off topic, but one of the reasons I can't stand baseball any more is that a few teams get to have payrolls that far exceed the rest. I know the experts say "look at who has been in the playoffs lately" but the truth is a small number of teams have a huge competitive advantage over the rest.

I am tickled to death that the Yankees were beaten...but they'll buy their way back to the post season next year.

Rampage
10-07-2006, 07:03 PM
Many people equate the Cowboys and the Yankees.
but we don't have an extra 100 million spent on players like they do

5Stars
10-07-2006, 07:03 PM
I dont watch baseball but I don't like the Yankees :D


:lmao:

Stupid Cowboy fans....!

CM Duck
10-07-2006, 07:04 PM
i am very happy to see the yanks knockeds out AGAIN. the highest payroll in all of sports(right?) taken out in the 1st round.

plus, goes to show what a good coach/manager can do to a sports franchise.

5Stars
10-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Many people equate the Cowboys and the Yankees.

So you mean

Cowboys = Yankees

?


:laugh1:

MC KAos
10-07-2006, 07:05 PM
you know pre player Real Madrid had a higher pay roll, but since there are more players in a baseball team than a soccer team its higher for the yanks than real

Boyzmamacita
10-07-2006, 07:05 PM
Many people equate the Cowboys and the Yankees.

This is true. A lot of people who hate the Yankees are jealous of their historical success and many of them feel the same way about the Cowboys. When my neighbor found out I was a Cowboys fan, he asked "Do you like the Yankees too?" They think we're just front runner fans.

dargonking999
10-07-2006, 07:06 PM
he means u either love or hate the yankees, like the cowboys

and the majority of fans, hate the yankees and cowboys

but i do hate the yankees

DBoys
10-07-2006, 07:07 PM
:lmao:

Stupid Cowboy fans....!

hahahahahahahha

MC KAos
10-07-2006, 07:07 PM
i hate the yanks because i grew up in new york(i am a cowboys/spurs fan because my dad was)and their fans, including some of my family, are obnoxious and annoying

GTaylor
10-07-2006, 07:12 PM
I would love to see "The Boss" dismantle the Yankees.

Starting with A-rod.
A-Rod has a no-trade clause, unless he wants to leave he's going nowhere.

EveryoneElse
10-07-2006, 07:15 PM
A-Rod has a no-trade clause, unless he wants to leave he's going nowhere.

He just said he would leave if the Yankees wanted to get rid of him bad enough.

No trade clauses are put into contracts so players can't be traded to the likes of the Royals and so on, against their will.

MC KAos
10-07-2006, 07:18 PM
watch, hell go to the Astros and TEAR IT UP!!! haha, as a casual 'stros fan i wouldnt mind that move, as long as we didnt loose any or these players in the trade:

roy oswalt, andy pettite, lance berkman

GTaylor
10-07-2006, 07:31 PM
He just said he would leave if the Yankees wanted to get rid of him bad enough.

No trade clauses are put into contracts so players can't be traded to the likes of the Royals and so on, against their will.
He also said he was happy in Texas and didn't want to leave, then when the mikes were turned off he and Boras went all-out to work a trade to Boston.

Trust me, I'm a Rangers fan. I know all about no-trade clauses burning you...Kenny Rogers used his no-trade clause to block a trade to Cincinatti, Juan Gonzalez used his no-trade clause to block a trade to Kansas City (And back then they were in contention), Rafael Palmerio used his no-trade clause to block a trade to the Cubs (twice), Larry Walker (With the Rockies) used his no-trade clause to block a trade here back in 04 when we were contending and A-Rod told Tom Hicks back in late 03 that he would involke his no-trade clause unless he was traded to either the Red Sox or the Yankees. It was the main reason we got screwed in the trade with the Yanks...and the examples above were from a 4 year period, have I mentioned how much I hate no-trade clauses???

Then again, NY media can put enough pressure on a player to warrant them wanting out, whereas the media here isn't as harsh.

Yeagermeister
10-07-2006, 09:25 PM
Way Too Go Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooo Hoooo

Hostile
10-07-2006, 09:49 PM
anybody else happy the new york overpaid-babies got knocked out of the playoffs?Ab-so-freaking-lutely.

Juke99
10-08-2006, 07:49 AM
I'm a Yankee fan...and I have to say, I enjoyed this.

I am SOOOO sick of them going out and buying every player available. It's too much.

I didn't mind when they spent 25% more than other teams but this is just nutz.

They need to learn how to stop throwing money at problems and manage their organiztion like every other team does.

As a side note, I HATED the A-Rod trade from day one. I've enjoyed watching him; the world's biggest choke artist.

Hostile
10-08-2006, 08:10 AM
I'm a Yankee fan...and I have to say, I enjoyed this.

I am SOOOO sick of them going out and buying every player available. It's too much.

I didn't mind when they spent 25% more than other teams but this is just nutz.

They need to learn how to stop throwing money at problems and manage their organiztion like every other team does.

As a side note, I HATED the A-Rod trade from day one. I've enjoyed watching him; the world's biggest choke artist.Hey Johhhhhhhhhhhnny!

Juke99
10-08-2006, 08:18 AM
Hey Johhhhhhhhhhhnny!



Yo.

Ya see, I started rooting for the Yanks in 1965. They were dreadful awful.

But it was MUCH better than this garbage.

Funny thing. Most people will bust on me "Ooooh, tough teams you root for, the Yankees and the Cowboys"

BUT...I started rooting for both teams when they simply weren't very good.

But this gazillion dollar pay roll is embarrassing.

How's things in the desert?

Oh and btw, it's "Heeeeeeeeeer's Johhhhhhhhny"

Hostile
10-08-2006, 08:23 AM
Yo.

Ya see, I started rooting for the Yanks in 1965. They were dreadful awful.

But it was MUCH better than this garbage.

Funny thing. Most people will bust on me "Ooooh, tough teams you root for, the Yankees and the Cowboys"

BUT...I started rooting for both teams when they simply weren't very good.

But this gazillion dollar pay roll is embarrassing.

How's things in the desert?

Oh and btw, it's "Heeeeeeeeeer's Johhhhhhhhny"We can't enunciate out here either. I have no room to talk smack in baseball being a D-Backs fan, but it always pleases me when the Yanks lose. If I were Brian Cashman a lot of hitters would be goen in trades for pitching. That's your achilles heel up there, your pitching staff is too old and broken down.

Juke99
10-08-2006, 08:28 AM
We can't enunciate out here either. I have no room to talk smack in baseball being a D-Backs fan, but it always pleases me when the Yanks lose. If I were Brian Cashman a lot of hitters would be goen in trades for pitching. That's your achilles heel up there, your pitching staff is too old and broken down.

The real achilles heel is that they have ZERO heart.

Other than Jeter, Posada, Bernie and Matsui this team is as gutless as it gets.

Back in the glory years, they had O'Neill...Brosius...Tino Martinez...Jeter....Posada...Bernie...Chad Curtis...etc.

The team has taken on A-Rod's personality. Gutless.

SA_Gunslinger
10-08-2006, 09:56 AM
yanks losing never gets old.

way to go detroit.

Glenn Carano
10-08-2006, 10:17 AM
I'm a Yankee fan...and I have to say, I enjoyed this.


I'm a Yankee fan and that comment is embarrassing. Give me a break, no person that is a Yankee fan enjoyed them getting beat. If you did, you're not a fan.

I didn't mind when they spent 25% more than other teams but this is just nutz.

They need to learn how to stop throwing money at problems and manage their organiztion like every other team does.

Since Cashman took over a more prominent role and the Tampa faction had a diminished role, things are heading in the right direction. We did spend alot on Damon last year, but we needed a CF in a bad way. We held on to our top prospects during the trade deadline this past summer and we actually have some good prospects in our system now. We've had a couple of really good drafts in a row. We have some real good pitching prospects in the system that will start arriving sometime in '07 and beyond. This team will get younger in the next few years and the payroll will drop with Sheffield and Mussina coming off the books. We have some real good pitching prospects in the system that will start arriving sometime in '07 and beyond. Mussina may be back next year, but not at $16million a year. I'm glad Cashman is now in total control, but if these rumors that Torre is out and Piniella is in are true, I don't think that would be a Cashman move and more of a Steinbrenner move and I don't like that.


As a side note, I HATED the A-Rod trade from day one. I've enjoyed watching him; the world's biggest choke artist.

So he's the only reason why the Yanks lost. Plenty of other guys didn't show up either, but lets just blame A-Rod. He played poorly again in the playoffs, but why did we lose in 2001? Why did we lose in 2002? Why did we lose in 2003? A-Rod wasn't even there yet and we were tanking in the playoffs and World Series. Who do you blame for those losses?

All this proves is that its really difficult to win a World Series. Throwing money around will get you to the playoffs in a 162 game season, but once the playoffs come around, many more variables are involved in those short series.

The real achilles heel is that they have ZERO heart.

Other than Jeter, Posada, Bernie and Matsui this team is as gutless as it gets.

Back in the glory years, they had O'Neill...Brosius...Tino Martinez...Jeter....Posada...Bernie...Chad Curtis...etc.

The team has taken on A-Rod's personality. Gutless.

Stop blaming A-Rod for the Yanks failures. He may be part of it, but there's more to it.

I love when people say we need more Paul O'Neill's, more guys like Tino Martinez, more guys like Scott Brosius. If those guys were on this team, we still wouldn't win. We won in '96, '98, '99 and '00 because of pitching. Andy Pettitte, David Cone, John Wetteland, Jeff Nelson, Mike Stanton, El Duque, David Wells, Roger Clemens etc.

Glenn Carano
10-08-2006, 10:21 AM
If I were Brian Cashman a lot of hitters would be goen in trades for pitching. That's your achilles heel up there, your pitching staff is too old and broken down.

Its going to be hard to trade away any of those bats with their salaries. Sheffield can walk, but Giambi, Cano, Jeter, A-Rod, Posada, Matsui and Damon probably aren't going anywhere. We do have some really good pitching prospects coming up, but I'm not sure if they will be ready in April 2007. Maybe mid-season. Cashman has done a good job the last couple years of building the farm system, we'll see what happens. We're stuck with Randy Johnson for one more year.

Juke99
10-08-2006, 10:29 AM
I'm a Yankee fan and that comment is embarrassing. Give me a break, no person that is a Yankee fan enjoyed them getting beat. If you did, you're not a fan.



Since Cashman took over a more prominent role and the Tampa faction had a diminished role, things are heading in the right direction. We did spend alot on Damon last year, but we needed a CF in a bad way. We held on to our top prospects during the trade deadline this past summer and we actually have some good prospects in our system now. We've had a couple of really good drafts in a row. We have some real good pitching prospects in the system that will start arriving sometime in '07 and beyond. This team will get younger in the next few years and the payroll will drop with Sheffield and Mussina coming off the books. We have some real good pitching prospects in the system that will start arriving sometime in '07 and beyond. Mussina may be back next year, but not at $16million a year. I'm glad Cashman is now in total control, but if these rumors that Torre is out and Piniella is in are true, I don't think that would be a Cashman move and more of a Steinbrenner move and I don't like that.




So he's the only reason why the Yanks lost. Plenty of other guys didn't show up either, but lets just blame A-Rod. He played poorly again in the playoffs, but why did we lose in 2001? Why did we lose in 2002? Why did we lose in 2003? A-Rod wasn't even there yet and we were tanking in the playoffs and World Series. Who do you blame for those losses?

All this proves is that its really difficult to win a World Series. Throwing money around will get you to the playoffs in a 162 game season, but once the playoffs come around, many more variables are involved in those short series.



Stop blaming A-Rod for the Yanks failures. He may be part of it, but there's more to it.

I love when people say we need more Paul O'Neill's, more guys like Tino Martinez, more guys like Scott Brosius. If those guys were on this team, we still wouldn't win. We won in '96, '98, '99 and '00 because of pitching. Andy Pettitte, David Cone, John Wetteland, Jeff Nelson, Mike Stanton, El Duque, David Wells, Roger Clemens etc.


Sorry, I'm a Yankee fan and I enjoyed it.

Gripe all you want, that's a fact.

I've been a fan for 40 years.

The point is, they needed something like this as a wake up call. So for me, losing this series is just fine.

And as far as A-Rod goes...I'm not the only one who feels this way...

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spkdgame1008,0,5069564.column?coll=ny-sports-headlines

We needed a centerfielder in a "bad way" because we traded for A-Rod and didn't want to spend the money for Beltran. That's a fact, he actually lessened his contract requests in order to play for the Yankees.

So basically, the team could have had Beltran AND Soriano instead of A-Rod.
That's a friggin' no brainer.

And I'm glad you love when people say we need more guys like O'Neill...The point was, we need guys with guts. I just stopped after listing the guys I did, uh, hence the "etc." that I wrote. Johnson has no guts...Wells did. Mussina is a choke artist also. Pettitte wasn't. El Duque was the best money pitcher we've had. Wright is a bum. My point is, those guys had guts. This team doesn't.

Glenn Carano
10-08-2006, 01:26 PM
Sorry, I'm a Yankee fan and I enjoyed it.

Gripe all you want, that's a fact.

I've been a fan for 40 years.

Some fan.



The point is, they needed something like this as a wake up call. So for me, losing this series is just fine.

Come on, they've had this wakeup call every year since 2001. Were you happy when the D-Backs beat them in Game 7 of the World Series? How could they lose that series with all your guys like O'Neill, Brosius, Tino, Jeter, Posada etc? That's a lot of guts and no ring. Were you happy the next year when the Angles beat them in the ALDS? What about the next year when they lost to the Marlins in the WS. The next year when they collapsed against the Red Sox, did that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? What about last year against the Angels? So why did you enjoy them losing only this year? Go root for the Mets.

And as far as A-Rod goes...I'm not the only one who feels this way...

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spkdgame1008,0,5069564.column?coll=ny-sports-headlines.

Wow, quoting a NY tabloid paper as gospel? They'll throw anything out there and see if it sticks. Have you been paying attention to the firstorm brewing all year? They've been saying that for awhile now, so maybe they'll be right one year.


And I'm glad you love when people say we need more guys like O'Neill...The point was, we need guys with guts. I just stopped after listing the guys I did, uh, hence the "etc." that I wrote. Johnson has no guts...Wells did. Mussina is a choke artist also. Pettitte wasn't. El Duque was the best money pitcher we've had. Wright is a bum. My point is, those guys had guts. This team doesn't.

I'll take pitching over guts anyday. Did the Tigers have guts or pitching? Did the Yanks have pitching in this series? Whatever.

txlonghorn14
10-10-2006, 06:32 PM
the yankees are taking a turn for the worst. the clubhouse is a circus due to blips between a-rod and jeter, sheff was bad mouthin joe torre after gm 4, the pitching is horrendous to say the least, and overall, the yankees aren't a team anymore, just a bunch of guys who wanna get paid. in the championship years from '96,'98','99,'2000, they didn't have a bunch of all stars, just a bunch of guys who wanted to win more than anything in the world. the days of paul o'neill and tino martinez are over, and have been replaced with big payroll hounds like abreu and sheffield. its sad to say, but they just don't want it anymore. they're gonna move into that new stadium which is gonna be a rich man's playground. the yankees aren't really "the yankees" anymore, just an organization that is slowly headed down the wrong path with blinders on. they need to drastically change their ways if they wanna win another title before the house that ruth built gets demolished.