Stop blaming Bledsoe

[bbailey423]

I may be a first time poster, but I have reading this board for quite some time. My account did not let me post for some reason, but I have gotten it fixed and you all will hear more from me

It is easy and en vogue to blame the QB. Every time Drew has a bad game everyone points the finger at him. I am not coming to his defense, because I feel like I know what we got in this guy....especially against good teams. It is times like this where I choose to follow the money trail. The Cowboys head coach is a defensive minded coach. The tone, money, and future of this team has been built around the defense. Any time we allow 31 points we don't deserve to win. Do you realize how many guys on defense got a bigger signing bonus than Drew? Do you realize how many guys on defense have a higer draft pick invested in them besides Drew?

For starters, we did not give up a draft pick for Drew, so EVERYONE on defense besides Henry, Ferguson and Ayodele cost us more from a draft pick perspecrtive. Secondly, Ellis, Roy, Newman, Henry, James, Ferguson, Spears, Ayodele, Ware, ALL of them got bigger signing bonuses than Drew. Anyone else see where this is going. Drew was brought into drive the bus.

This defense was built to be a sack machine! This defense was built to apply consistent pressure on the QB. This defense was built to allow 17 points a game MAX! So I personally couln't care less what happened on offense when we give up 31 points. I couldn't care less when we allow guys who I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD of catch the ball all day long. And part of it is coaching. Why the heck do we invest in all of these expensive parts and make them play so passive. Why make the CBs keep everything in front of them? Why force a rookie 5th round pick into coverage? Why force a SS into coverage so much. WHERE THE HECK was Roy today. Part of his game is putting a lick on somebody, anybody to shake the entire pysche of the opposition. We constantly backpedal on defense. If we are going to read and react, we might as well have NOT spent top 10 picks and double digit signing bonuses on guys. ANYBODY can freaking do that. Our approach to defense is awful.

Lastly, WE WAITED TO LONG TO ABANDON the 3-4. Heck we should have not even played the 3-4 yesterday as our base defense. I could carry this topic on for hours, but all I know is one team was in the QBs lap all day with the 4-3. One team was able to cover Terry Glenn and Owens and Witten and Jones with a 4-3. The other team could not cover anyone with a 3-4. Guess which team was which yesterday

[Clove]

:welcome: You have some valid points. I love the 3-4. Okay, I just like the way the Chargers/Steelers and Patriots play it.

Zimmer can not learn something in 2 years that others take years to learn.

Zimmer is a 4-3 guy, and he just doesn't have this defense blitzing right. Yesterday, I would've stayed in the nickel the entire game. There would be no

Roy or Watkins covering receivers deep, that is suicide. I only play Madden, and I'm smart enough not to have my Safety matched up on a freaking WR.

Our defense was horrible, and the funny thing is, we fixed the run defense, but we still have problems getting to the QB consistantly, and covering the

deep pass. However, Bledsoe is not taking us anywhere so get used to that.

[Jake0]

When your QB has as many ints and fumbles as bledsoe did in our 2 losses, kinda ruins the whole, NO MORE THAN 17 POINTS ALLOWED argument. If you want to drive the bus, you don't have that many turnovers, PERIOD.

[trueblue1687]

Bledsoe needs to take plenty of blame as does several others (Flozell got owned, Roy's mental vacations, Witten trying to remember to run after he catches a pass...) It wasn't all Bledsoe's fault, but he did ALOT in the loss.

[TVMan]

Bledsoe needs a vacation.

We still had a chance to win the game. That's what your QB is supposed to do in those situations. Win the game.

Bledsoe can't blame anyone but himself for the way the game ended.

[proline]

I blame Bledsoe for any throws he made that were bad decisions on his part. If he has no time, no room, is sacked, arm bumped, etc., that goes primarily on the line, and in part on the coaching staff for not adapting. I might be wrong, but I don't recall us rolling Bledsoe out at all yesterday, a move that we have used successfully in the past to stop defenses from being able to tee off on a stationary point in the pocket. It worked in the past, why not use it yesterday?

I also was thinking we would try a flea-flicker on the drive before the Eagles did their flea-flicker.

[Novacek84]

If Bledsoe has such a strong arm how come half his passes were short armed in this game? Underthrowing Owens onthe sure TD late was a joke. Yes, the defense was putrid yesterday but Bledsoe had a chance to make some plays and didn't. He looked like Chad Pennington out there with his weak throws. He looked hurt to me. If he is get him out of there. This season is looking more like 8-8 every time I see Bledsoe. He truly can't play in a big game. I give him 2 more games and then it's Romo time if I don't see results. You know he'll look good against a lousy Houston team but if he's bad against the Giants the following week, I'd make a change. I've seen enough.

[GlitzCowboy]

When he didn't have anyoe to get the ball to, he seemed alright actually. Amazing how fast a year and one player can change everything. Though I blame much of this on Parcells' playcalling. A quick 3 yard virtually uncoverable slant pattern to TO and this game is in overtime.

[trueblue1687]

I, too will take pause to lay blame on Parcells and his staff as well as those players aforementioned. Parcells did a porr job of preparing his team to handle the blitz packages the Eagles threw. Additionally, I think some adjustments at the half may work occasionally...that is perhaps my biggest gripe with Parcells. It seems he doesn't like to tweak things during a game when it may actually be beneficial. That said, Bledsoe did his statue act several times and was obviously rattled by the blitz.

[Kaika]

I think what bothered me the most is, all week Bledsoe was saying "Bring on the Blitz", so he knew it was coming ,as the whole world did ,and it looked like there was no game plan for it.:confused:

[rathalarge]

Bottom line, your QB cannot have three fumbles and three intercetions, and you expect to win a game, especially against a division opponent on the road. He needs toplay like the veteran and team leader that he is.

[Rack Bauer]

I think what bothered me the most is, all week Bledsoe was saying "Bring on the Blitz", so he knew it was coming ,as the whole world did ,and it looked like there was no game plan for it.:confused:




I think he assumed we'd be able to block it and he'd have a little bit of time to make a play.


I'm sure if he knew how horrible our OL was gonna play he wouldn't of said "Bring on the blitz".

[ZeroClub]

All the hamburger helper in the world isn't going to turn Bledsoe into a steak ....

[GlitzCowboy]

I think what bothered me the most is, all week Bledsoe was saying "Bring on the Blitz", so he knew it was coming ,as the whole world did ,and it looked like there was no game plan for it.:confused:

He did run his butt off though, gotta give him that. As a whole though, Bledsoe is just not equipped to deal with it on an every down type of situation like what was called for yesterday.

[superpunk]

I think he assumed we'd be able to block it and he'd have a little bit of time to make a play.


I'm sure if he knew how horrible our OL was gonna play he wouldn't of said "Bring on the blitz".

So we're expecting the Oline to block for what? 5 seconds, now?

Their play was good enough. I can only think of maybe three sacks I'd put on them. The RBs struggled with blitz pickup, and Bledsoe proved that if you put any pressure on him in his face, he'll fall apart.

I don't, however, blame Bledsoe for the pathetic playcalling. We're getting blitzed, so we continue to look for deep patterns? We show we can run effectively after our first two drives end badly throwing the ball, so we abandon the run to pass some more? Absolute brilliance, Bill.

[Rowdy]

You also can't polish a turd at this point.

[Jarv]

All the hamburger helper in the world isn't going to turn Bledsoe into a steak ....


Lol...Good one !

[Coakleys Dad]

:lmao2: :laugh2: :lmao:Bledsoe :laugh2: :lmao2: :laugh1:

[Mash]

Keep the excuses comming....

Bledsoe is what he is....and has done it for the majority of his carreer...

we will never win with him......he is slow....cant anticipate a route.....cant read defenses....has no pocket awareness....and my little girl throws a flat pass better...

yet....its never his fault

[Screw The Hall]

First welcome to the board and nice first post.

I don't expect Drew to be a miracle worker but he lost that game for us. You don't think there may have been a trickle down effect on the rest of the team when your QB is constantly mishandleing the ball? The defense was constanty fighting an uphill battle because everyone in that stadium knew all the Eagles had to do was wait long enough and Bledsoe would self destruct.

Noway the QB can operate the way he did against the Eagles yesterday and anyone honestly expect us to win. That was not a friendly place we went to and we were playing a damn good team. So if anyone thought we were just going to shut down the leagues #1 rated offense or that the OL was going to completely shutdown a defense that's been applying pressure all year then I think they were fooling themselves. However to expect your QB to be able to manage a game and "drive the bus" is never an over the top expectation no matter what his salary is. And if what he was doing was in fact "driving the bus" then it's time for him to take some driving lessons because quite frankly that was reckess driving at best and felony death by vehicle at worst. Either way I don't think it's beyond reason to expect more from that position.

Were there other problems? You bet. But I saw nothing we couldn't have recovered from if we just would have had a guy under center that valued the football more. Until we do we go nowhere ... salary cap be damned.

[Doomsday]

How many of those 31 pionts were given up by the offense? At least 10 of them and the offense only scored 3 lousy points in the second half. Where were the adjustments, it took 3 1/2 quarters to realize they were blitzing up the gut and to try a screen to JJ. The Oline looked confused on quite a few of thier blitz packages and when they werent confused they just plain got whipped. As bad as the Oline played its impossible for me to believe that TO and Glenn were covered all day 1 on 1 and even if they are chuck one up and let them go get it.

This was a team loss the offense could of and needs to play better starting with Bledsoe and moving right down the line to Barber who just didnt have it yesterday.

[BigD_95]

Bledsoe is awful. Thats twice this year to go along with many in his career. Its time to move on.

[Rack Bauer]

So we're expecting the Oline to block for what? 5 seconds, now?

Their play was good enough. I can only think of maybe three sacks I'd put on them. The RBs struggled with blitz pickup, and Bledsoe proved that if you put any pressure on him in his face, he'll fall apart.

I don't, however, blame Bledsoe for the pathetic playcalling. We're getting blitzed, so we continue to look for deep patterns? We show we can run effectively after our first two drives end badly throwing the ball, so we abandon the run to pass some more? Absolute brilliance, Bill.



If you think our OL play was good enough, then you are completely clueless.

How many times did Walker - a DT - come through UNTOUCHED and hit bledsoe as he threw it? What about Howard? Sorry, but letting a DT come through at least 3 times untouched is not good enough.

Did Bledsoe suck? No doubt about it, but so did the OL.

[MS17]

I think what bothered me the most is, all week Bledsoe was saying "Bring on the Blitz", so he knew it was coming ,as the whole world did ,and it looked like there was no game plan for it.:confused:

Mick's saying this morning that little line gave Philly some juicy bulletin board reading material prior to the game. Nice going, guys.

[Pine Needle]

Yeah ya'll. Stop it. Stop it!!

[Sam I Am]

Parcells says that he will play the QB that gives the Cowboys the best chance to win. Well, you have to ask yourself a question. Do you want to win regular season games now or do you want to be able to win in the playoffs. The two folds of the question cause a conundrum. If you play Bledsoe now, the Cowboys should make the playoffs. Problem is, Bledsoe doesn't play well against heavy pressure. To get the to playoffs you generally need a good defense that can pressure the QB. IE, if Cowboys make the playoffs with Bledsoe, chances are he will repeat what he has done last week and against the Jags as this is what he has done his entire career. The other half of the conundrum is if you switch to Romo now will the Cowboys win enough games to even make the playoffs. Bledsoe does give the Cowboys the best chance to win now against a majority of the leagues defenes.

The only answer I can come up with is. It's time NOW to start the transition to Romo. With Bledsoe, in the end we will fail. With Romo, are chances of competing in the playoffs are better. We can win now to fail later, or we can take a chance and try and win with Romo who I think would have a better shot in the long run of winning in the playoffs.

Next week is Houston. A perfect game for Romo to get his feet wet. Romo is being groomed for the future. Let his future begin. There is more than enough time left in the season for him to get acclimated to playing even if you play each QB a little in each game. We don't have to go Romo full throttle, but we need to start the process now.

[Stautner]

Sure we gave up too many points yesterday, but we have to realize that many of the points were the result of offensive ineptitude - and poor play by the QB.

When you turn the ball over as much as we did it's natural the opposing team will score a lot of points. Heck, we got lucky that we didn't turn the ball over even more - Bledsoe threw a pass that should have been intercepted and fumbled a couple of balls that we were lucky to get back.

There were some defensive breakdowns - no doubt, but Bledsoe clearly did not drive the bus yesterday (unless you consider it acceptable to drive it over a cliff).

[RealCowboyfan]

BLEDSOE SUCKS MORE THAN A LOLIPOP....:starspin

[Stautner]

BLEDSOE SUCKS MORE THAN A LOLIPOP....:starspin

Lolipops don't suck - they GET sucked.

[Sam I Am]

If you think our OL play was good enough, then you are completely clueless.

How many times did Walker - a DT - come through UNTOUCHED and hit bledsoe as he threw it? What about Howard? Sorry, but letting a DT come through at least 3 times untouched is not good enough.

Did Bledsoe suck? No doubt about it, but so did the OL.

Hmm, did the oline suck? Sometimes. Did they suck everytimes Bledsoe got sacked? No! Considering the way the Eagles were blitzing the offensive line didn't play that bad. Sure there were more than a few times of failure, but a blitz is 5 rushers, I saw the Eagles blitz 6-8 rushers several times. When they rush that many guess who has to make a play? Bledsoe. He didn't. The Eagles did exactly what they should have done. Pressure Bledsoe no matter what. He can't handle pressure so that is what you give him.

Cowboys rushed for 146 yards. Not to shabby for a oline that sucked.

[Pine Needle]

Gentlemen, this is the STOP BLAMING BLEDSOE thread. So please, stop blaming Bledsoe. Is he at fault? Sure. Is he to blame? Sure. Do we want to sack him? Yes we do. Is Romo the Unitas/Montana/Staubach/Aikman/Bradshaw of our glorious future? Of course he is. But that is NO reason to blame Bledsoe. So stop it, please? If he reads this thread this afternoon, I guarantee you it will hurt his feelings, which will lead to a pulled hamstring, no practice, and then, heaven forbid, too many painkillers at once and we know where THAT takes us.

[Cowboy4ever]

Why should Bledslow not get blamed for this one? The defense game up 21 pts yesterday. I Have a question for all you Bledslow lovers. How many times did Bledslow read the blitz, do that NO Call slashing of the throat thing, and NOT throw a hot route? Against that type of D, with them blitzing like crazy, the QB has to get the ball out quick, Bledslow NEVER tried. I counted 2 maybe 3 sacks that was the OL's fault yesterday. When they send 7 and you only have 5 blockers, you can't expect 4 seconds, you take a three step and ball is out,, Blewslow takes the 3 steps and tries to read. Bledslow couldn't play good behind the great wall of China,, his decision making is just to slow and he won't pull the trigger fast enough.

[bbailey423]

I guess I should have offered more specefics. Parcells does NOT like teams built around the QB. He won with guys who will never sniff the HOF. Heck he won 10 games with Quincy Carter. This team is built from a draft picks, money and coaching perspective to win with defense. Yet we do not turn our defensive players lose. How many guys on defense have double digit signing bonusues and/or were 1st round picks

Roy
Henry
Newman
Ferguson
Ellis
Ware
Spears
Carpenter

Heck everyone on the OL besides Gurode and Columbo got more money than Drew to sign.

My point is Bledose came cheap because he is flawed. If you do not keep him clean he gets rattled. This is not a revelation. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE WERE WINNING 21 -17 when we gaive up a long TD to a bum

[Bigdog24]

I guess I should have offered more specefics. Parcells does NOT like teams built around the QB. He won with guys who will never sniff the HOF. Heck he won 10 games with Quincy Carter. This team is built from a draft picks, money and coaching perspective to win with defense. Yet we do not turn our defensive players lose. How many guys on defense have double digit signing bonusues and/or were 1st round picks

Roy
Henry
Newman
Ferguson
Ellis
Ware
Spears
Carpenter

Heck everyone on the OL besides Gurode and Columbo got more money than Drew to sign.

My point is Bledose came cheap because he is flawed. If you do not keep him clean he gets rattled. This is not a revelation. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE WERE WINNING 21 -17 when we gaive up a long TD to a bum

Game on the line and Bledsoe has the ball, what do you do?

Bledsoe is a veteran, IMO its a rookie mistake to give up a game by a interception. It was what 2nd down and goal from with in the 5, A veteran would/should of known you have two more downs, if its not there, its not there, don't force it. Bledsoe gave the game away by forcing a throw on 2nd Down with the game on the line, Dejavu Seatle.

[Mansta54]

Bledsoe lost that game as far as I'm concerned. He misses open recievers, holds the ball too long, can't move in the pocket at all. TO is running wide open and can't get the ball. That last pic was absolutely RIDICULOUS!!! The oline didn't play great but we were in position to tie it up at the end and he blew it.. It's time to play Romo and I like Drew and was pulling for him but enough is enough...

[Hostile]

:welcome:

Glad to see we got the account fixed for you.

Outstanding first post. I hope you'll post a lot more.

[bbailey423]

Again....we ALL ALREADY know this about Bledsoe. Heck I thought we should have at least attempted a draw down there. Look, I am not apologzing for Bledsoe. I am just saying that we are letting all of the newly minted millionaires like James, Roy, Ferguson, Ellis, Ware, Henry, Ayodloe, Newman, Spears off of the hook for letting WRs I have never even heard of outplay us.

[Mansta54]

Game on the line and Bledsoe has the ball, what do you do?

Bledsoe is a veteran, IMO its a rookie mistake to give up a game by a interception. It was what 2nd down and goal from with in the 5, A veteran would/should of known you have two more downs, if its not there, its not there, don't force it. Bledsoe gave the game away by forcing a throw on 2nd Down with the game on the line, Dejavu Seatle.


:hammer:

[Arch Stanton]

:welcome: Good post. Agree 100%.

[Tennione72]

What do you expect from a defense when they're on the field all day trying to overcome turnovers, bad field position, and 3 and outs. The offense with the exception of #21 loss that game and who runs the offense. BLEDSOE

[bbailey423]

this defense was not on the field all day. In fact I think we almost DOUBLED them in TOP.

[superpunk]

What do you expect from a defense when they're on the field all day trying to overcome turnovers, bad field position, and 3 and outs. The offense with the exception of #21 loss that game and who runs the offense. BLEDSOE


Pssssst....we controlled the clock. not the Eagles. BY FAR.

You can't put Watkins failings on the offense in this one.

[Tennione72]

Most of that TOP was in the first half

[superpunk]

Actually, we held the ball for 20:15 in the second half.

Any more guesses?

[spellbine]

what drive's me nuts about bledsoe is he is a statue back. as a quarterback
you a mental clock of about three seconds, then it is time to throw it away or run. also, when philly would show the blitz straight up the gut, how about
an audible drew. lets just snap the ball and let get sacked while you are still in your backpeddle. he has been in the league way to long to keep making these mistakes. do the cowboys even believe in the shotgun? with a quarterback that immobile it might help.

[LilPlayaJosh]

When your QB has as many ints and fumbles as bledsoe did in our 2 losses, kinda ruins the whole, NO MORE THAN 17 POINTS ALLOWED argument. If you want to drive the bus, you don't have that many turnovers, PERIOD.

I would rather have Brad johnson than Bledsoe. Johnson may not be flashy but he won't turn the ball over either.

[Rampage]

I may be a first time poster, but I have reading this board for quite some time. My account did not let me post for some reason, but I have gotten it fixed and you all will hear more from me

It is easy and en vogue to blame the QB. Every time Drew has a bad game everyone points the finger at him. I am not coming to his defense, because I feel like I know what we got in this guy....especially against good teams. It is times like this where I choose to follow the money trail. The Cowboys head coach is a defensive minded coach. The tone, money, and future of this team has been built around the defense. Any time we allow 31 points we don't deserve to win. Do you realize how many guys on defense got a bigger signing bonus than Drew? Do you realize how many guys on defense have a higer draft pick invested in them besides Drew?

For starters, we did not give up a draft pick for Drew, so EVERYONE on defense besides Henry, Ferguson and Ayodele cost us more from a draft pick perspecrtive. Secondly, Ellis, Roy, Newman, Henry, James, Ferguson, Spears, Ayodele, Ware, ALL of them got bigger signing bonuses than Drew. Anyone else see where this is going. Drew was brought into drive the bus.

This defense was built to be a sack machine! This defense was built to apply consistent pressure on the QB. This defense was built to allow 17 points a game MAX! So I personally couln't care less what happened on offense when we give up 31 points. I couldn't care less when we allow guys who I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD of catch the ball all day long. And part of it is coaching. Why the heck do we invest in all of these expensive parts and make them play so passive. Why make the CBs keep everything in front of them? Why force a rookie 5th round pick into coverage? Why force a SS into coverage so much. WHERE THE HECK was Roy today. Part of his game is putting a lick on somebody, anybody to shake the entire pysche of the opposition. We constantly backpedal on defense. If we are going to read and react, we might as well have NOT spent top 10 picks and double digit signing bonuses on guys. ANYBODY can freaking do that. Our approach to defense is awful.

Lastly, WE WAITED TO LONG TO ABANDON the 3-4. Heck we should have not even played the 3-4 yesterday as our base defense. I could carry this topic on for hours, but all I know is one team was in the QBs lap all day with the 4-3. One team was able to cover Terry Glenn and Owens and Witten and Jones with a 4-3. The other team could not cover anyone with a 3-4. Guess which team was which yesterday
you have got to be kidding

[bbailey423]

I have to be kidding? Go listen to Parcells press conference. He is not placing as much of the blame at Bledsoe's feet as most are.

[Rampage]

I have to be kidding? Go listen to Parcells press conference. He is not placing as much of the blame at Bledsoe's feet as most are.
he never blames his qbs in pc's

[Stautner]

I would rather have Brad johnson than Bledsoe. Johnson may not be flashy but he won't turn the ball over either.

This Brad Johnson talk is stupid.

Hell, if we are going to play that game, I would rather have Ladanian Tomlinson than Julius and Brian Urlacher instead of Ayodele ......

Some seem to think that the team screwed up by not going out and getting a player that for all we know we never could have had a shot at anyway.

[LilPlayaJosh]

This Brad Johnson talk is stupid.

Hell, if we are going to play that game, I would rather have Ladanian Tomlinson than Julius and Brian Urlacher instead of Ayodele ......

Some seem to think that the team screwed up by not going out and getting a player that for all we know we never could have had a shot at anyway.

First of all LT is the best running back in the league. I would have said Manning or Palmer in that case. I'm not saying we should have gotten Brad Johnson. All I'm getting at is Bledsoe is supposed to be light years better than Brad Johnson yet Bledsoe always seems to fumble and throw INT's when Brad Johnson hardly ever does. He may not give us 5 TD's to a sorry defense like Bledsoe, but he will rarely play as bad as Bledsoe seems to play. He also definately doesn't have two of the best receivers in the league on his side. But I'm just saying it would be nice to have a QB you know won't put you in bad situations and turn the ball over in critical games not that we should specifically sign him.

[StarAmongStars]

Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.

[Stautner]

First of all LT is the best running back in the league. I would have said Manning or Palmer in that case. I'm not saying we should have gotten Brad Johnson. All I'm getting at is Bledsoe is supposed to be light years better than Brad Johnson yet Bledsoe always seems to fumble and throw INT's when Brad Johnson hardly ever does. He may not give us 5 TD's to a sorry defense like Bledsoe, but he will rarely play as bad as Bledsoe seems to play. He also definately doesn't have two of the best receivers in the league on his side. But I'm just saying it would be nice to have a QB you know won't put you in bad situations and turn the ball over in critical games not that we should specifically sign him.

Who says Bledsoe is supposed to be light years ahead of Brad Johnson .......?

I agree that we could stand a QB upgrade, but the conversation needs to focus on reality, and the reality is that Brad Johnson isn't a consideration. Otherwise we might as well just sit and list all the people at all positions that we would like to have.

It's Romo or nothing.

[Rampage]

Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.
say we go to the playoffs. what happens when we play chicago. bledsoe will be on his back all day. you keep saying how bledsoe is a hof qb cause of his passing yards. are you aware he has thrown almost as many picks as tds in his career?

[Stautner]

say we go to the playoffs. what happens when we play chicago. bledsoe will be on his back all day. you keep saying how bledsoe is a hof qb cause of his passing yards. are you aware he has thrown almost as many picks as tds in his career?

Look at the numbers - he hasn't thrown almost as many picks as TD's.

Aikman, on the other hand, has thrown almost as many picks as TD's - what does that tell you?

[StarAmongStars]

say we go to the playoffs. what happens when we play chicago. bledsoe will be on his back all day. you keep saying how bledsoe is a hof qb cause of his passing yards. are you aware he has thrown almost as many picks as tds in his career?

Yes because an old school gunslinger.....I'm not concerned with QB ratings, sacks or INT's because that stuff is going to happen when your looking to win football games.

Let's also consider that Bledsoe has played on some pretty bad teams during his career.....so that is part of the reason that his TD/INT ratio isn't the greatest either.

[joseephuss]

Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.

You mean he hasn't learned anything from being in the league for 13 years?

[Cochese]

3 INT's 3 fumbles 7 sacks. If Deadslow doesnt take a majority of the blame for yesterday, than who should? He was the Eagles most dangerous playmaker.

[LilPlayaJosh]

Who says Bledsoe is supposed to be light years ahead of Brad Johnson .......?

I agree that we could stand a QB upgrade, but the conversation needs to focus on reality, and the reality is that Brad Johnson isn't a consideration. Otherwise we might as well just sit and list all the people at all positions that we would like to have.

It's Romo or nothing.

Yeah maybe not light years but I bet the lay football fan thinks so. Your right though I probably shouldn't bring up someone that we can't have, but I don't really want Brad Johnson per se, I was just using him as example really since they signed him at the end of his career and we got Bledsoe and the end of his. I think we should play Romo or draft a big time QB.

[LaTunaNostra]

Yes because an old school gunslinger.....I'm not concerned with QB ratings, sacks or INT's because that stuff is going to happen when your looking to win football games.

Except that if you're looking to 'win football games', little things like sacks, picks, and QB ratings make it pretty difficult.

Let's also consider that Bledsoe has played on some pretty bad teams during his career.....so that is part of the reason that his TD/INT ratio isn't the greatest either.

In 1993 when Bill drafted Bledsoe, the Pats were pretty bad. But Tuna provided Drew with a pretty good bus..with Sam Coates, Terry, Curtis Martin, and Bill built up a strong line anchored by the old warhorse Bruce Armstrong.

He never expected Drew to do it on his own, or without a strong defense, and by 96, that team was SB bound. In subsequent years, under Pete Carroll there was a slide, but the Pats were always competitive.

In Buffalo, Kevin Gilbride's smoke and mirrors only briefly obscured the reality...

Bledsoe has never been a career interception machine like Vinnie T. His int stats are not, imo, outrageous for a 'gun-slinger'. But add in his sacks and it's not a pretty story. Add in the effect on 'winning football games ' a multiple pick/sack game has and what you've got is a QB who all too often crumbles under pressure.

[Cowboy Bill Watts]

Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.



well his aggregate QB rating through 4 games is 64%. i guess he can't get much worse.

problem is that there are lots of guys out there that can put up 64%. romo can do that.

a 64 will not get us to the playoffs.

[Bullet22]

I blame Parcells for playing Bledsoe.

[Rampage]

Look at the numbers - he hasn't thrown almost as many picks as TD's.

Aikman, on the other hand, has thrown almost as many picks as TD's - what does that tell you?
drew has 249tds and 205 picks. thats pretty close

[joseephuss]

drew has 249tds and 205 picks. thats pretty close

Bledsoe in Dallas has contibuted 31 TDs(28 passing, 3 rushing). He has contributed 33 turnovers(24 INTs, 9 lost fumbles out of 20 total fumbles).

[Bob Dole]

Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.

He hasn't learned from the mistakes he's made in his 14-year NFL career, and you're expecting him to all of the sudden do it in the next two months?

Don't hold your breath waiting on that.

[Stautner]

drew has 249tds and 205 picks. thats pretty close

Here are some numbers to ponder:

Troy Aikman: 165 TD's, 141 INT's (1.17 TD/INT ratio)
Johnny Unitas: 290 TD's, 253 INT's (1.15 TD/INT ratio)
Bart Starr: 152 TD's, 138 INT's (1.10 TD/INT ratio)
John Elway : 300 TD's, 226 INT's (1.33 TD/INT ratio)
Jim Kelly: 237 TD's, 175 INT's (1.35 TD/INT ratio)
Warren Moon: 291 TD's, 233 INT's (1.25 TD/INT ratio)
Phil Simms: 199 TD's, 157 INT's (1.27 TD/INT ratio)
Terry Bradshaw: 212 TD's, 210 INT's (1.01 TD/INT ratio)

Bledsoe: 249 TD's, 205 INT's (1.21 TD/INT ratio)

Obviously there are some great QB's that have better ratios, but there are some that are considered all-time greats that have worse.

The point is that Bledsoe's TD/INT ratio isn't as dismal as you make it out to be - seems like some pretty good company from the list I've compiled above.

[Ratmatt]

:welcome: You have some valid points. I love the 3-4. Okay, I just like the way the Chargers/Steelers and Patriots play it.

Zimmer can not learn something in 2 years that others take years to learn.

Zimmer is a 4-3 guy, and he just doesn't have this defense blitzing right. Yesterday, I would've stayed in the nickel the entire game. There would be no

Roy or Watkins covering receivers deep, that is suicide. I only play Madden, and I'm smart enough not to have my Safety matched up on a freaking WR.

Our defense was horrible, and the funny thing is, we fixed the run defense, but we still have problems getting to the QB consistantly, and covering the

deep pass. However, Bledsoe is not taking us anywhere so get used to that.
For all you people who jump down Zimmer's throat for not being aggressive enough,or too passive,or not running the 3-4 the way san diego,pittsburgh,or new england does.I will bet anyone he is running the defense the way he is told to run it.I know Zimmer seems to be everyone's fall guy,there always seems to be a fall guy on Parcells watch when things don't go well,but he is running this defense the way parcells wants it ran.

[SkinsandTerps]

Bledsoe under pressure yesterday:

1st half:
Grounding
Sack/Fumble
Pick by Dawkins
Shepard dropped a sure pick
Dirt ball
Completion to Glenn
Witten drop
Fumble

Second Half:
1st down run
Sack
Sack
Screen to Barber
Sack
Nearly sacked squeezed a 2yd gain
4 man front - sack
3 man front - sack
Threw ball out of back of endzone

His 2 picks in the fourth quarter were when he wasnt under pressure.

[Stautner]

For all you people who jump down Zimmer's throat for not being aggressive enough,or too passive,or not running the 3-4 the way san diego,pittsburgh,or new england does.I will bet anyone he is running the defense the way he is told to run it.I know Zimmer seems to be everyone's fall guy,there always seems to be a fall guy on Parcells watch when things don't go well,but he is running this defense the way parcells wants it ran.

It's amazing how incredibly obvious this is and how incredibly few people seem to realize it.

It's as if people think Parcells has no control - no ability to dictate anything - that his coordinators dominate him and he's too scared to question them.

Does anyone really think Parcells watches from the sidelines and thinks to himself how much better the team would be if only he could be in charge of the defense?

[Dale]

Bledsoe under pressure yesterday:

1st half:
Grounding
Sack/Fumble
Pick by Dawkins
Shepard dropped a sure pick
Dirt ball
Completion to Glenn
Witten drop
Fumble

Second Half:
1st down run
Sack
Sack
Screen to Barber
Sack
Nearly sacked squeezed a 2yd gain
4 man front - sack
3 man front - sack
Threw ball out of back of endzone

His 2 picks in the fourth quarter were when he wasnt under pressure.

The problem with Bledsoe, IMO, isn't the sacks. I'll take the sacks if we can make teams later pay for blitzing. The problem, it seems, is that he doesn't recover once he's rattled. This isn't exactly new, as a lot of people like Winicki have pointed this out for a while. But it certainly seems more and more true with each game.

He's tough as nails, but seems to create pressure in his mind even when it's not there after he's hit a few times.

[SkinsandTerps]

The problem with Bledsoe, IMO, isn't the sacks. I'll take the sacks if we can make teams later pay for blitzing. The problem, it seems, is that he doesn't recover once he's rattled. This isn't exactly new, as a lot of people like Winicki have pointed this out for a while. But it certainly seems more and more true with each game.

He's tough as nails, but seems to create pressure in his mind even when it's not there after he's hit a few times.

I agree, he starts getting happy feet and instead of looking down field. He is looking over his shoulder, therefore holding the ball long creating more sacks and more opportunities for turnovers

[Billy Bullocks]

You can't put the blame soley on Bledsoe. He didn't give up 3 HUGE pass plays.

But he turned it over 4 times. Ill say 2 of them weren't his fault with his arm being hit. But down 31-24, he had hte TD to TO. Underthrown. Then he throws the ball right to Shephard. Almost cost us the game before by taking that sack instead of rolling out and throwing it away.

[Ratmatt]

I may be a first time poster, but I have reading this board for quite some time. My account did not let me post for some reason, but I have gotten it fixed and you all will hear more from me

It is easy and en vogue to blame the QB. Every time Drew has a bad game everyone points the finger at him. I am not coming to his defense, because I feel like I know what we got in this guy....especially against good teams. It is times like this where I choose to follow the money trail. The Cowboys head coach is a defensive minded coach. The tone, money, and future of this team has been built around the defense. Any time we allow 31 points we don't deserve to win. Do you realize how many guys on defense got a bigger signing bonus than Drew? Do you realize how many guys on defense have a higer draft pick invested in them besides Drew?

For starters, we did not give up a draft pick for Drew, so EVERYONE on defense besides Henry, Ferguson and Ayodele cost us more from a draft pick perspecrtive. Secondly, Ellis, Roy, Newman, Henry, James, Ferguson, Spears, Ayodele, Ware, ALL of them got bigger signing bonuses than Drew. Anyone else see where this is going. Drew was brought into drive the bus.

This defense was built to be a sack machine! This defense was built to apply consistent pressure on the QB. This defense was built to allow 17 points a game MAX! So I personally couln't care less what happened on offense when we give up 31 points. I couldn't care less when we allow guys who I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD of catch the ball all day long. And part of it is coaching. Why the heck do we invest in all of these expensive parts and make them play so passive. Why make the CBs keep everything in front of them? Why force a rookie 5th round pick into coverage? Why force a SS into coverage so much. WHERE THE HECK was Roy today. Part of his game is putting a lick on somebody, anybody to shake the entire pysche of the opposition. We constantly backpedal on defense. If we are going to read and react, we might as well have NOT spent top 10 picks and double digit signing bonuses on guys. ANYBODY can freaking do that. Our approach to defense is awful.

Lastly, WE WAITED TO LONG TO ABANDON the 3-4. Heck we should have not even played the 3-4 yesterday as our base defense. I could carry this topic on for hours, but all I know is one team was in the QBs lap all day with the 4-3. One team was able to cover Terry Glenn and Owens and Witten and Jones with a 4-3. The other team could not cover anyone with a 3-4. Guess which team was which yesterday
He may have been brought in to drive the bus,but he isn't doing that.He commits way to many turnovers to be called a bus driver.So if that's what he was brought in for,then bledsoe is failling.If Parcells wanted a veteran,who doesn't turn it over much,and could be a bus driver,he should have gone after brad johnson.

[5Stars]

He may have been brought in to drive the bus,but he isn't doing that.He commits way to many turnovers to be called a bus driver.So if that's what he was brought in for,then bledsoe is failling.If Parcells wanted a veteran,who doesn't turn it over much,and could be a bus driver,he should have gone after brad johnson.


Hmmmm, I wonder if Bledsoe stumbled onto QC's stash somewhere in the locker room? That might explain some things about his play when he get rattled...:eek:

[Stautner]

You can't put the blame soley on Bledsoe. He didn't give up 3 HUGE pass plays.

But he turned it over 4 times. Ill say 2 of them weren't his fault with his arm being hit. But down 31-24, he had hte TD to TO. Underthrown. Then he throws the ball right to Shephard. Almost cost us the game before by taking that sack instead of rolling out and throwing it away.

His arm was hit a few times, but taking a slight step back to avoid the rush or making a quicker decision or being smart enough to realize the pressure wouldn't allow a throw can make a difference - and doing those things is the reason you use a veteran over a youngster. Obviously things just happen sometimes, but if the veteran can't do those things often enough to avoid regualar problems - if the veteran knowledge and experience isn't providing benefits - then it only makes sense to make a change to the younger more athletic more enthusiastic guy.

[Polamalus_Angel]

Bottom line, your QB cannot have three fumbles and three intercetions, and you expect to win a game, especially against a division opponent on the road. He needs toplay like the veteran and team leader that he is.

I agree! Too many turnovers will kill you every time.

[JMead]

There were alot of things that went wrong in the game. The strangest thing I saw was that Dallas did no run any quick patterns when the Eagles were blitzing... Everything seemed to be a streak or a deep slant / post. You cant expect to have any success against the blitz doing that.

I also didnt expect the defense to give up 31 points either.. Not in a million years. I thought the game was over a 17-14. What was wrong with them? They allowed way to many big plays to no name players. Granted 3 ( not counting the last INT for a TD ) points came from Bledsoe turnovers and 7 points from the McBriar fumble ( which I thought hurt the most of anything else IMO ).

I saw so many things that could have easily burnt the Eagles. All you have to do is run draws , tosses and screens against a team that blitzes that much. If you guys didnt notice each of the Cowboys TDs came when they ran the ball.

Oh.. and where was playaction? I only remember one playaction pass.

To tell you te truth.. I wouldnt be to discouraged on the loss as a whole. While Dallas played like a highschool team on Offense and Defense they were still in the game. A game that looked like the Eagles dominated the entire time.

One last thought. Has anyone looked at the game again? I have been wondering how the heck noone got open on those blitzes. Then again defenders were getting through the line so quick that it wouldnt have mattered anyway.