Mike and Mike Show

[rathalarge]

Both Mike's agree, that Bledsoe is killing the Cowboys. The following was said:
-The Cowboys had the ball for just under 37 minutes, so they were controlling the clock.
-The running game is going good. The team rushed for 146 yards.
-Terry Glenn has experienced a resurgence. T. O. is a good receiver. Jason Witten is a good receiver.
-Bill played Tony Romo so long in the preseason to see if he could play. The problem with him being the second team QB, means he gets little snaps with the first team. But he could wait for three more weeks to change, and the amount of snaps in practice won't make it any better.
-Bledsoe was able to run for a TD,but the fact that he is immobile does not challenge the defense near the goal line, as witnessed yesterday.
-Bledsoe has been in the leaugue for a jillion years, and there is NO reason for him to hold the ball as long as he does, which resulted in about four sacks.

It ended with Golic saying, he thinks Parcells thinks Romo can play, but has he lost enough confidence in Bledsoe after yesterday to make a change. His statistics for the year of only 50 % passing, and 5 td's to 7 int's is something to think about.

[CrazyCowboy]

Romo time is getting close to chiming

[SkinsandTerps]

The Eagles are often in games where they dont control the clock, doesnt mean anything. Their offense can and does usually strike quickly which is part of the reason they rotate the defensive players so much.

[Screw The Hall]

Romo time is getting close to chiming

God I hope so ... but I have my doubts. Not sure BP pulls the plug in time here to rescue the season. And I'm positive he won't do it immediately.

It's important for me to add I don't think all our problems go poof and go away with a changing of the guard under center. But I do believe there is a cap on how good this team can be with Bledsoe manning that position.

[Screw The Hall]

The Eagles are often in games where they dont control the clock, doesnt mean anything. Their offense can and does usually strike quickly which is part of the reason they rotate the defensive players so much.

Well it certainly doesn't mean much when your QB is handing the ball back to them at an unprecedented rate. Ball control doesn't mean much when you are constantly turning it over.

[Doomsday101]

It was a tough game but excuse me if I'm not jumping on the Romo wagon right now. Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes but I still feel Dallas best chance this season is with Bledsoe. Once Romo enters the season is pretty much done.

[MichaelWinicki]

It was a tough game but excuse me if I'm not jumping on the Romo wagon right now. Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes but I still feel Dallas best chance this season is with Bledsoe. Once Romo enters the season is pretty much done.

We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.

[SultanOfSix]

It was a tough game but excuse me if I'm not jumping on the Romo wagon right now. Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes but I still feel Dallas best chance this season is with Bledsoe. Once Romo enters the season is pretty much done.

Why are we done if Romo enters the season? Were the Pats done when Brady entered the season? I'm not saying Romo is Brady. Can he be as awful as Bledsoe on road? Yes. Is there a possibility that he might be better? Yes.

We know what we have in Bledsoe. A guy who turns into a vegetable when the heat is on.

If Romo is ready, there is no better time than this week.

[canters]

We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.

Brillant! Well said.

[Doomsday101]

We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.

In your opinion we are done in mine we have a long ways to go before this season is over and I'm not going to over react to this loss. I expected a tough game and that is exactly what we got. We came up short and made mistake on both sides of the ball and in the end it cost us but this season is far from over. As for Romo I have said unless the season is done I don't think he should start and entering next season if the plan by the organization is to make Romo the starter then name him the starter from the get go and have him work soley with 1st string unit but you don't pull this kind of crap after 4 games.

[MichaelWinicki]

Why are we done if Romo enters the season? Were the Pats done when Brady entered the season? I'm not saying Romo is Brady. Can he be as awful as Bledsoe on road? Yes. Is there a possibility that he might be better? Yes.

We know what we have in Bledsoe. A guy who turns into a vegetable when the heat is on.

If Romo is ready, there is no better time than this week.

Right now we have the 27th rated QB in the NFL.

For some reason I can't imagine Romo being much worse than that.

[Screw The Hall]

It was a tough game but excuse me if I'm not jumping on the Romo wagon right now. Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes but I still feel Dallas best chance this season is with Bledsoe. Once Romo enters the season is pretty much done.

We'll win when we are supposed to. When the blocking is just so and the receivers are wide open and the sun is shining brightly and the birds are singing ... yeah we'll win. But it's so easy to see when this team is gonna lose a game because of that position these days. If the heat is getting there, we are cooked. And the truth is any good defensive team should be able to find him, he's not that hard to locate.

[SultanOfSix]

...with 1st string unit but you don't pull this kind of crap after 4 games.

It's not just the first four games THIS year. It's also the last eight games last year. Yeah, we had Tucker and Petiti on the line, but we know what happens to Bledsoe when things aren't perfect. He can't play, and this is a well known fact.

[T-New41]

Right now we have the 27th rated QB in the NFL.

For some reason I can't imagine Romo being much worse than that.

He could be the 28th ranked QB. j/k

I agree with you 100%. Nothing against Drew, but IMO, he can not get us the only thing that really matters in this league. The Lombardi. We need to see if Romo can be that guy, or if we need to get someone next season.

[chinch]

the problem is that Drew is alot like Arod in that he puts up meaningless "stats" vs bad teams and wilts under pressure. hard to bench a guy with career numbers.

tuna is old-school to a fault with QBs... he doesn't want "mistakes" and wants a "bus driver" but fails to address teh fact that our QB crashed the bus in Jax and just lost his driving license in philly with dumb, idiotic play.

now, we'll beat a few bad teams, perhaps be 5-2 and face the same "drew meltdown" in a big spot again and again :(

[SkinsandTerps]

The OL is still porous. Putting Romo back there IMO, is giving up, he will feel the heat relentlessly. There is a lot of football to be played, if the Cowboys get to the point where they lose 3 in a row based on QB play or are out of the potential playoff race, than I believe that Romo will come in.

[dbair1967]

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

.

you apprently have more faith in him than I do now, because I'm not sure we can get to 9-7 or 10-6 this way

where are the w's? Texans...Cards on the road...probably Tampa at home and Detroit at home...you'd think we can handle those 4 teams...that'd get us to 6, meaning we'd have to win at least 4 of the following to be 10-6, Giants (play them 2 times), Skins away, Carolina away, Indy at home (if McNabb can do what he did yesteday with no talent at WR, what is Manning going to do with all those guys?) Atlanta away and Philly & New Orleans at home, and right now the Saints are a better team than we are and are far better coached...I think Philly pretty proved the same thing yesterday



David

[Doomsday101]

It's not just the first four games THIS year. It's also the last eight games last year. Yeah, we had Tucker and Petiti on the line, but we know what happens to Bledsoe when things aren't perfect. He can't play, and this is a well known fact.

Your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. I don't want to see Dallas throw in the towel and bench Bledsoe and yes that is exactly what I think will happen if such a move is made this season would be pretty much over. You guys have the right to jump on him all you want but thank god you don't control this team because to throw it away after 4 games in the season is about as over reactive as it gets.

[percyhoward]

Does anybody honestly believe we'd be worse than 2-2 with Romo right now?

[MichaelWinicki]

In your opinion we are done in mine we have a long ways to go before this season is over and I'm not going to over react to this loss. I expected a tough game and that is exactly what we got. We came up short and made mistake on both sides of the ball and in the end it cost us but this season is far from over. As for Romo I have said unless the season is done I don't think he should start and entering next season if the plan by the organization is to make Romo the starter then name him the starter from the get go and have him work soley with 1st string unit but you don't pull this kind of crap after 4 games.


How long before Bledsoe loses this team Dooms?

The O-line is going to get lambasted this week for sacks that weren't their fault.

Owens is starting to lose patience... and I don't blame him.

[CactusCowboy]

It was a tough game but excuse me if I'm not jumping on the Romo wagon right now. Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes but I still feel Dallas best chance this season is with Bledsoe. Once Romo enters the season is pretty much done.

Your name " Doomsday" is appropriate. Bledsoe did very little yesterday, the bad far outweighed the good. Romo, I believe has the team behind him and that is key and his mobility is a huge factor in todays game.

[Screw The Hall]

I disagree that putting Romo in is giving up. If you are convinced he's not the answer then OK, but how could you be at this point. To me keeping Bledoe in is settling, and just like with choosing a good women, that's never a good thing.

edit --- I meant to make this a response to SkinsandTerps post

[SultanOfSix]

Your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. I don't want to see Dallas throw in the towel and bench Bledsoe and yes that is exactly what I think will happen if such a move is made this season would be pretty much over. You guys have the right to jump on him all you want but thank god you don't control this team because to throw it away after 4 games in the season is about as over reactive as it gets.

Who says putting in Romo is actually throwing in the towel?

The way Bledsoe is playing, I think there is no need for a towel, because the boxer has been K.O.ed and is down for the count.

[MichaelWinicki]

The OL is still porous. Putting Romo back there IMO, is giving up, he will feel the heat relentlessly. There is a lot of football to be played, if the Cowboys get to the point where they lose 3 in a row based on QB play or are out of the potential playoff race, than I believe that Romo will come in.

Eli Manning took 8 sacks and still made plays. Even when Bledsoe wasn't pressured he was wildly inaccurate.

[Doomsday101]

Your name " Doomsday" is appropriate. Bledsoe did very little yesterday, the bad far outweighed the good. Romo, I believe has the team behind him and that is key and his mobility is a huge factor in todays game.

You can believe what you want that does not mean everyone else feels the same way I don't think Parcells is going to bench Bledsoe to make you guys feel happy. BP is going to do what he feels will give us the best chance to win and when the time comes to put Romo in I think he will but 4 games into a season No I don't see it happening.

[BrAinPaiNt]

How long before Bledsoe loses this team Dooms?

The O-line is going to get lambasted this week for sacks that weren't their fault.

Owens is starting to lose patience... and I don't blame him.

There were sacks that were the lines fault.

There were times where the sacks were bledsoes fault.

Some want to blame one, some want to blame the other....those with eyes should blame both.

Now as was mentioned in the article, maybe this is where Romo has an edge over bledsoe due to his mobility.

We shall see down the road.

[Aikmaniac]

Does anybody honestly believe we'd be worse than 2-2 with Romo right now?

I think we'd be at least 3-1, maybe 4-0.

Anyone with an ounce of mobility would've made the Eagles paid for those blitzes yesterday.

What the Eagles did yesterday was give a blueprint to the NFL on how to whip the Cowboys.

The silver lining is that even after all of those turnovers, the Cowboys still had a chance to win the game but Bledsoe kept giving it back.

I'm ready for a change. I'm ready for Romo. What better team to get him warmed up than against the Texans?

But, we all know how Parcells will handle this: "Bledsoe gives us the best chance to win." I'm hoping against hope that Romo has impressed BP enough to make a change. Parcells is all about not turning the ball over and especially not turning the ball over in the red zone.

[Doomsday101]

Who says putting in Romo is actually throwing in the towel?

The way Bledsoe is playing, I think there is no need for a towel, because the boxer has been K.O.ed and is down for the count.

And if he has a tough time you guys will turn on him as well. If Parcells felt he was ready to take over he would already be out there and the fact is he is not out there and I doubt he will be out there for a good while.

[MichaelWinicki]

You can believe what you want that does not mean everyone else feels the same way I don't think Parcells is going to bench Bledsoe to make you guys feel happy. BP is going to do what he feels will give us the best chance to win and when the time comes to put Romo in I think he will but 4 games into a season No I don't see it happening.

Over his last 14 games, the Cowboys are 7-7. In those games, Bledsoe has 17 touchdowns to go with 20 interceptions. He's also been sacked 46 times. I doubt Romo would be any worse.

[Screw The Hall]

There were sacks that were the lines fault.

There were times where the sacks were bledsoes fault.

Some want to blame one, some want to blame the other....those with eyes should blame both.

Now as was mentioned in the article, maybe this is where Romo has an edge over bledsoe due to his mobility.

We shall see down the road.


It's not really about assigning blame for me. It's about the truth. The truth is good defenses have almost always been able to find Bledsoe when they really make a conserted effort to do so. And when they do the results are almost never good.

[MichaelWinicki]

There were sacks that were the lines fault.

There were times where the sacks were bledsoes fault.

Some want to blame one, some want to blame the other....those with eyes should blame both.

Now as was mentioned in the article, maybe this is where Romo has an edge over bledsoe due to his mobility.

We shall see down the road.


Hey I agree with you Brain.

It's like our guards never seen a stunt before. It was embarrasing.

But what is easier to fix at this point? The line or the QB? I'm thinking QB.

[Doomsday101]

There were sacks that were the lines fault.

There were times where the sacks were bledsoes fault.

Some want to blame one, some want to blame the other....those with eyes should blame both.

Now as was mentioned in the article, maybe this is where Romo has an edge over bledsoe due to his mobility.

We shall see down the road.

I agree. I'm not taking any of the blame away from Bledsoe he had a rough outing as did many players on this team. I also knew that after a week of fans popping off to Philly fans about this game that a loss would cause this reaction. Many of us said this last Friday, a loss and the sky is falling crowd will be all over the place.

[Zaxor]

I disagree that putting Romo in is giving up. If you are convinced he's not the answer then OK, but how could you be at this point. To me keeping Bledoe in is settling, and just like with choosing a good women, that's never a good thing.

edit --- I meant to make this a response to SkinsandTerps post

I agree.. in fact it MAY actually save the season...but even if it dooms us to losing atleast we are losing while trying to get better than losing while not... sorta like bailing water on a sinking ship instead of just covering your eyes and pretending that there are no holes...

[Bleu Star]

For the sake of the remainder of the season and the health of my heart START ROMO NOW.

[dbair1967]

Eli Manning took 8 sacks and still made plays. Even when Bledsoe wasn't pressured he was wildly inaccurate.

I cant believe more arnt noticing that...even when he has time (and not just yesterday) he is not throwing the ball well...maybe there is more to him being hurt than what they have said, but his passes clearly dont have the same zip or accuracy they normally have...even alot of passes he IS completing are not being thrown well

David

[SultanOfSix]

And if he has a tough time you guys will turn on him as well. If Parcells felt he was ready to take over he would already be out there and the fact is he is not out there and I doubt he will be out there for a good while.

It's human nature to be upset with failure. However, the point your missing is we ALREADY KNOW what we have in Bledsoe. Most of those calling for a change are fed up with his usual breakdowns when the pressure is on. This is not an IMPETUOUS decision. This is something that has been happening continuously.

We don't know what we have in Romo, except we do know that BP does think he is ready enough. Well, if he's ready enough, it's time to put him in the game because we need to know if he's the future or we need one, because there is NO FUTURE OR PRESENT with Bledsoe.

[Zaxor]

Hey I agree with you Brain.

It's like our guards never seen a stunt before. It was embarrasing.

But what is easier to fix at this point? The line or the QB? I'm thinking QB.

actually it look more like Rivera getting his butt handed to him more often than not...(another of the ones I complained about signing)

[percyhoward]

Teams know that all they have to do is get pressure up the middle for 2 1/2 quarters, and the rest will take care of itself.

[Zaxor]

It's human nature to be upset with failure. However, the point your missing is we ALREADY KNOW what we have in Bledsoe. Most of those calling for a change are fed up with his usual breakdowns when the pressure is on. This is not an IMPETUOUS decision. This is something that has been happening continuously.

We don't know what we have in Romo, except we do know that BP does think he is ready enough. Well, if he's ready enough, it's time to put him in the game because we need to know if he's the future or we need one, because there is NO FUTURE OR PRESENT with Bledsoe.

amazing how many are so unwilling to see that...

[Cbz40]

Well this Old mans patience has just hit the :banghead: It's past time for a change at the QB position.

As has already been said "whats the difference between a 27th rated QB and the 28th?

I don't care what anyone says, Romo could not do any worse than what we have now.

[odog422]

How long before Bledsoe loses this team Dooms?

The O-line is going to get lambasted this week for sacks that weren't their fault.

Owens is starting to lose patience... and I don't blame him.

exactly. and before a team implosion, id rather go with romo.

you are what you are, as our esteemed coach once said. and at this point, bledsoe is a qb with an above average arm, who, over his career, has never developed a "pocket presence", is more easily rattled than earlier in his career, probably bc of all the hits hes taken over the years, and simply makes mistakes someone whose been around as long as he has shouldnt.

what do you lose with romo? really?

ill make an assumption that our offensive staff has gameplanned some means to get TO, witten and fasano more involved, but unless bledsoe is kept entirely clean, hes going to TG. thats his security blanket. weapons are being wasted.

i honestly believe that romo would make our offense more lethal bc he DOESNT have that history/rapport with one receiver, therefore, he will run the offense and take whats available. meaning more people involved.

yes, weve got to stop the big plays on defense. and a little better blitz pickup wont hurt either. but our running game is good, our defense is pretty steady overall. offensive blunders or missed opportunities haunt this team in its two losses this season and i think there is a direct correlation to them and bledsoe's play.

sit him down. hes gunshy and done, IMO.

[SkinsandTerps]

I disagree that putting Romo in is giving up. If you are convinced he's not the answer then OK, but how could you be at this point. To me keeping Bledoe in is settling, and just like with choosing a good women, that's never a good thing.

edit --- I meant to make this a response to SkinsandTerps post

Fair enough. My fear is this: with a young QB typically, you shut down half your offense. He is going into his what 4th year ? And never taken a regular season snap ? Thats kinda worrisome.

Its so much easier to say a guy on the sidelines would be better. But I really dont know. Unfortunately NFLN just starting showing all of the pre-season games last year, so I have only seen bits and pieces of Romo.

I would say that at this point the Cowboys wouldnt be settling, they would be remaining optimistic and trying to continue to build on the relationship. Lets not forget all of the practice time that TO missed, that timing simply hasnt been fully established yet.

[BrAinPaiNt]

actually it look more like Rivera getting his butt handed to him more often than not...(another of the ones I complained about signing)

I think Rivera should get a tattoo of Howard's name on his butt cheek after that game because he was Howard's prison bi...I am sure you know what I mean.

[Tripod]

It was a tough game but excuse me if I'm not jumping on the Romo wagon right now. Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes but I still feel Dallas best chance this season is with Bledsoe. Once Romo enters the season is pretty much done.

I might be Bledsoe's biggest supporter on this board since Nors. Yow. I'm the anti-Winicki to a fault.

I've met the guy a couple of times and you'll never meet a more decent human being or a tougher one. The TD dive ended with 3 Philly defenders ringing Drew's bell. He got up looking shell shocked yet continued to play. The guy also ran for 3 other first downs. He wants to win, badly.

But like everyone else I threw something at the TV on the last 2
Bledsoe INTs. One was a bad throw, the other a stupid throw. Our QB lost that game. And our QB lost the Jax game. Sure a combination of better line play and defensive big play improvements may have overcome Drew's screw-ups but if the loss can be pinned on one guy it's Drew. Absolutely.

If Bledsoe continues to QB for the 16 game schedule maybe these will be the only 2 times we can outright blame Bledsoe. That's my hope. If we miss the playoffs or home field advantage or whatever it will be perfectly legitimate to blame Bledsoe because of these two games.

But that's as negative as I'm going to get. I think as far as QB pressure goes
we've already experienced the worst of it. Philly will not be able to bring that kind of pressure in our house. And the rest of our opponents won't equal Philly's efforts. We've played our 2 toughest away opponents.

I see us going 11-5 and Bledsoe playing markedly better.

One last thing. TOs routes suck. He starts, stops, changes speeds mid-route
and alligator armed 2 passes yesterday. Playing in the pre-season with Bledsoe would have helped alot. It's not luck that Glenn and Bledsoe hook up so well, it's experience.

[Screw The Hall]

I agree.. in fact it MAY actually save the season...but even if it dooms us to losing atleast we are losing while trying to get better than losing while not... sorta like bailing water on a sinking ship instead of just covering your eyes and pretending that there are no holes...

We really get to test Parcells "progress stopper" comment here. Few times has the situation been more indicative of the spirit of that statement than now.

[CowboyJohn]

We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.

Dead on....:hammer:

[Zaxor]

Well this Old mans patience has just hit the :banghead: It's past time for a change at the QB position.

As has already been said "whats the difference between a 27th rated QB and the 28th?

I don't care what anyone says, Romo could not do any worse than what we have now.


when Tom was changing out Craig and Roger... neither one really won the battle outright...

Craig threw a better ball and had more exp.

Roger had mobility and some cockiness

it wasn't until later that we discovered the intangiables Roger had

Tom later stated he wasn't sure he had made the right decision even after that miraculous comeback against SF...but it was the way Roger won the players around him that finally put Tom at ease...

now having said all that have you ever seen a o-lineman help Bledsoe to his feet?...what about Witten?...JJ?....

Romo seems to have won his teammates over...or atleast that is how it looks to this untrained eye

[Doomsday101]

It's human nature to be upset with failure. However, the point your missing is we ALREADY KNOW what we have in Bledsoe. Most of those calling for a change are fed up with his usual breakdowns when the pressure is on. This is not an IMPETUOUS decision. This is something that has been happening continuously.

We don't know what we have in Romo, except we do know that BP does think he is ready enough. Well, if he's ready enough, it's time to put him in the game because we need to know if he's the future or we need one, because there is NO FUTURE OR PRESENT with Bledsoe.

I understand that. Fans don't know what we have in Romo I understand that I also understand and I'm thankful fans do not run this team because the fact is you don't know because your not there your not seeing these guys day in and day out you don't know. Parcells does have a better ideal than fans do he is there and does see what is taking place. Playing musical QB's is not a great way to go and it will give a sense to the team that we have thrown in the towel and I think that would be a big mistake after only 4 games into a season.

[Cbz40]

when Tom was changing out Craig and Roger... neither one really won the battle outright...

Craig threw a better ball and had more exp.

Roger had mobility and some cockiness

it wasn't until later that we discovered the intangiables Roger had

Tom later stated he wasn't sure he had made the right decision even after that miraculous comeback against SF...but it was the way Roger won the players around him that finally put Tom at ease...

now having said all that have you ever seen a o-lineman help Bledsoe to his feet?...what about Witten?...JJ?....

Romo seems to have won his teammates over...or atleast that is how it looks to this untrained eye


You make an excellent analogy. From what I saw in preseason Romo just may have some of those intangiables.

Why stay with a QB that is impossible to protect? At the very least we know Romo can buy himself some time in the pocket.

[jwhardin]

The fact according to Garp is that Romo has the ability to make plays when things break down. Bledsoe is a fighter but That one sack in the 4th happens to rookies not veteran QBs. This game reminds me of the 1st game in Philly in 92, Aikman was sacked about 7 times, the boys won the 2d game then beat philly in the playoffs, but they play a more aggressive game back then.

[Zaxor]

You make an excellent analogy. From what I saw in preseason Romo just may have some of those intangiables.

Why stay with a QB that is impossible to protect? At the very least we know Romo can buy himself some time in the pocket.

agreed a 14 year vet knowing that we are playing a field position game...that would rather take a sack than throw the ball away has a screw or two loose

[MichaelWinicki]

I understand that. Fans don't know what we have in Romo I understand that I also understand and I'm thankful fans do not run this team because the fact is you don't know because your not there your not seeing these guys day in and day out you don't know. Parcells does have a better ideal than fans do he is there and does see what is taking place. Playing musical QB's is not a great way to go and it will give a sense to the team that we have thrown in the towel and I think that would be a big mistake after only 4 games into a season.



Who says that Dooms other than you?

How do you know that the team doesn't want Romo in there?

You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't see the needless sacks given up or the inaccuracy on the short routes or the poor decisions?

Come'on now Dooms! The only starting QB with a lower rating than Bledsoe is Chris Simms. Over the last 14 games Bledsoe has a lower QB rating than what Quincy Carter did over his last 14 games. You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't know that?

Wake up Dooms and smell the Romo. It's brewing. ;)

[justbob]

actually it look more like Rivera getting his butt handed to him more often than not...(another of the ones I complained about signing)

Not Only Rivera---Flo looked as much like a statue as Bledsoe. Flo --trade him
to SF so they will have the unmovable duo back together

[Doomsday101]

Who says that Dooms other than you?

How do you know that the team doesn't want Romo in there?

You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't see the needless sacks given up or the inaccuracy on the short routes or the poor decisions?

Come'on now Dooms! The only starting QB with a lower rating than Bledsoe is Chris Simms. Over the last 14 games Bledsoe has a lower QB rating than what Quincy Carter did over his last 14 games. You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't know that?

Wake up Dooms and smell the Romo. It's brewing. ;)

You smell Romo. When or if the time comes I'll pull for Romo after all I do like him but unlike some I don't over react after a loss and you guys do and do it every time this team drops a game. I know Romo is not the starter and if the intent was to make him the starter this year he would be out there and the fact is he is not. If you throw him out there and he fails the you same bunch of chicken littles will be clamering on about getting rid of him as well. Sorry I don't believe you run a team off emotions and evidently you guys do because you prove it every time this team hits a bump in the road.

[gbrittain]

We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.


I have yet to figure out how so many people are missing the part that has been highlighted.

Maybe I am the one that lives in bizaro world, but man it just makes so much sense.

Does anyone really want to go into next year with Bledsoe at the wheel? If the answer is yes, that is the very definition of insanity. You know doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting a different result.

If you answer no, then would you rather have a Romo with nearly a year under his belt and a general idea of wether we need to go QB shopping or not or a green as can be QB in terms of actual play.

[CaptainAmerica]

I wasn't a Romo fan, but he began to show me in the pre-season that perhaps he does have those intangibles we need at the position.

I agree with all those saying Bledsoe is a known quantity and the fact is I don't like what I know. 8-8, 9-7 at best. The exact same thing we were saying last year this time and we all know how that movie ended.

I will look for Peter King's comments today because Parcells confides in him and King should be getting a feel for how Parcells is thinking in regards to Bledsoe.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Who says that Dooms other than you?

How do you know that the team doesn't want Romo in there?

You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't see the needless sacks given up or the inaccuracy on the short routes or the poor decisions?

Come'on now Dooms! The only starting QB with a lower rating than Bledsoe is Chris Simms. Over the last 14 games Bledsoe has a lower QB rating than what Quincy Carter did over his last 14 games. You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't know that?

Wake up Dooms and smell the Romo. It's brewing. ;)


Well I don't know about all of it, but I do know playing Musical chairs in the QB department sure has served us well since Aikman left. :mad:

Too bad the music is being played on a Kazoo instead of a full orchestra.

[Joe Rod]

Theisman thinks that it's Romo time, just curios what people think of this since most of us feel he's an idiot. I personally think that Parcell's will stick with Bledsoe until we get into the playoffs and he kills us in the first round.

On the flip side, we lost at Philly on the road and we lost at Jacksonville on the road. They both have winning records and are obviously good teams. I personally think that Romo can be the 27th ranked QB in the league (or better), but maybe the panick is a little over the top. I'm sure Parcells is thinking that right now.

Remember, we will get to see this team again in Dallas.

[gbrittain]

You smell Romo. When or if the time comes I'll pull for Romo after all I do like him but unlike some I don't over react after a loss and you guys do and do it every time this team drops a game. I know Romo is not the starter and if the intent was to make him the starter this year he would be out there and the fact is he is not. If you throw him out there and he fails the you same bunch of chicken littles will be clamering on about getting rid of him as well. Sorry I don't believe you run a team off emotions and evidently you guys do because you prove it every time this team hits a bump in the road.

Based on Bledsoes history I would hardly call this an overreaction. Look at the man's history. If you could prove this was an aberration, then so be it.

[Cbz40]

Well I don't know about all of it, but I do know playing Musical chairs in the QB department sure has served us well since Aikman left. :mad:

Too bad the music is being played on a Kazoo instead of a full orchestra.

We need a guitar player at QB......Bledsoe is a bongo player. :)

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is the same old argument that has been going on since Bledsoe was signed. Better or worse, Bledsoe is our guy. He was the only choice Bill ever really considered, he was the overwhelming choice of the fan base on this board and now we are all stuck with him. Better or worse, we are all stuck with him.

Mike said it the day he was signed and I have to say that I see nothing to date that has proven him wrong. I agreed then and I agree now. Bledsoe will never win a championship here. His limitations are fatal. He will win 9 or 10 but he will ultimatly give up the ship in the tough situations. I like the guy personally but I believed it when he came here and I believe it now, he won't win a championship here.

Having said that, he's our QB. I will continue to support him because I have no choice. We deserve what we get for the decision we made.

[MichaelWinicki]

I have yet to figure out how so many people are missing the part that has been highlighted.

Maybe I am the one that lives in bizaro world, but man it just makes so much sense.

Does anyone really want to go into next year with Bledsoe at the wheel? If the answer is yes, that is the very definition of insanity. You know doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting a different result.

If you answer no, then would you rather have a Romo with nearly a year under his belt and a general idea of wether we need to go QB shopping or not or a green as can be QB in terms of actual play.

The trouble is that you have certain people that think Bledsoe is going to do some kind of U-turn and turn into a 25yo Bledsoe, which quite frankly wasn't all that hot to begin with.

[BrAinPaiNt]

We need a guitar player at QB......Bledsoe is a bongo player. :)

Bledsoe does not have the Rhythm to play any percussion.

Now he got beat like a bongo, if that is what you mean.:o:

[Doomsday101]

Based on Bledsoes history I would hardly call this an overreaction. Look at the man's history. If you could prove this was an aberration, then so be it.

If it was going to be done then it should have been done at the start of camp not after 4 games. You may not call it over reacting but making a big change like that after 4 games in my opinion is just that an over reaction.

[MichaelWinicki]

This is the same old argument that has been going on since Bledsoe was signed. Better or worse, Bledsoe is our guy. He was the only choice Bill ever really considered, he was the overwhelming choice of the fan base on this board and now we are all stuck with him. Better or worse, we are all stuck with him.

Mike said it the day he was signed and I have to say that I see nothing to date that has proven him wrong. I agreed then and I agree now. Bledsoe will never win a championship here. His limitations are fatal. He will win 9 or 10 but he will ultimatly give up the ship in the tough situations. I like the guy personally but I believed it when he came here and I believe it now, he won't win a championship here.

Having said that, he's our QB. I will continue to support him because I have no choice. We deserve what we get for the decision we made.


Ouch a shot to the groin!

Sad but true ABQ.

We're stuck.

We made the wrong decision. Brad Johnon or Brian Griese would both have been better choices quite frankly.

Morning btw. ;)

[Zaxor]

Not Only Rivera---Flo looked as much like a statue as Bledsoe. Flo --trade him
to SF so they will have the unmovable duo back together

bwahhaha:laugh2:very evil:ohboy: I like it

[BrAinPaiNt]

Ouch a shot to the groin!

Sad but true ABQ.

We're stuck.

We made the wrong decision. Brad Johnon or Brian Griese would both have been better choices quite frankly.

Morning btw. ;)

Brad Johnson would have worked well.

Brian Griese??? Hell no.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ouch a shot to the groin!

Sad but true ABQ.

We're stuck.

We made the wrong decision. Brad Johnon or Brian Griese would both have been better choices quite frankly.

Morning btw. ;)

Such as it is Michael, such as it is.


Good Morning to you too.

[Boyzmamacita]

We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.


:lmao2:

[Doomsday]

Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes.

Talk about an understatement. Not to mention the fact that these are the same mistakes or in my opinion weaknesses of his being exploited that have been taking place since long before he arrived in Dallas. Bledsoe isnt the only one who got exposed, Watkins and Williams both got exposed a bit, but again I blame Zimmer he is an idiot. Watkins is better at roaming then Roy so why is Watkins locked up in man coverage and Roy roaming around instead of vice versa? Zimmer's schemes are too predictable in my opinion.

[Boyzmamacita]

ill make an assumption that our offensive staff has gameplanned some means to get TO, witten and fasano more involved, but unless bledsoe is kept entirely clean, hes going to TG. thats his security blanket. weapons are being wasted.


Excellent observation.

[SkinsandTerps]

Bledsoe being a vet should be smart enough to realize that he has safety valves at the TE and RB position. For him not to utilize those players in a more efficient manner is a major problem.

Who is the Cowboys QB coach ?

[theebs]

Romo time is getting close to chiming

Its way too early to make a change. Too early.

There is too much on the line still.

People are acting like the season is over or something because we lost to a good team on the road. We were in the game even though we played poorly.

You could see Philly starting off fast this year. This was a tough spot to be in yesterday and we still came within one play of forcing overtime.

The Player I am most dissapointed in is Flozell Adams, I believe adams more than anyone cost us this game.

My hats off to the eagles, Mcnabb is one of the five best players in this league and he shows that every week.

I believe in our team. I still am not ready to change bledsoe out for romo, I think he has to be given the next two home games, because I dont think we will see our defense struggle with the big play again like that this year.

We lost in Philly in the early 90s during two super bowl years, in fact we got whipped in 92 up there.

We just need to get the next two keep our head above water and then get two of the three against the cardinals, skins and panthers. If we do that and go to 6-3 we play 5 of the last 7 at home. Our defense is different at home.

Please remember while everyone is freaking out today that the eagles played the easy part of their schedule already, we get tampa, detroit and houston at home.

I cant believe how people overreact to one game...We know going in that eagles were going to make some big plays, we just made a mistake in the end to cost us.

[theebs]

Brad Johnson would have worked well.

Brian Griese??? Hell no.

I am not sure I agree with this. In fact I dont get the logic.

Brad johnson has thrived in west coast offenses because the ball comes out on three step drops and quick passes.


If he was being asked to make 7 step drops and go deep as much as blesoe he would be struggling too.

I cant believe how people are putting this all on bledsoe? Here is an idea, maybe if Owens worked a little harder to get open, or if Flozell adams was worth a darn the outcome would be different.

This game was much like the finish in oakland last year and I believe we ran a similar play but bledsoe on 4th down went to glenn, it was incomplete.

I will put the vid up of the oakland sequence and the eagles sequence yesterday. Last year flozell adams blew too blocks that cost us the game and yesterday witten and bledsoe blew that one play.....its too bad.

[BulletBob]

This is the same old argument that has been going on since Bledsoe was signed. Better or worse, Bledsoe is our guy. He was the only choice Bill ever really considered, he was the overwhelming choice of the fan base on this board and now we are all stuck with him. Better or worse, we are all stuck with him.

Mike said it the day he was signed and I have to say that I see nothing to date that has proven him wrong. I agreed then and I agree now. Bledsoe will never win a championship here. His limitations are fatal. He will win 9 or 10 but he will ultimatly give up the ship in the tough situations. I like the guy personally but I believed it when he came here and I believe it now, he won't win a championship here.

Having said that, he's our QB. I will continue to support him because I have no choice. We deserve what we get for the decision we made.

He also called out the Eddie George move as a disaster, IIRC.

Maybe there's something to this ... Winki guy.

Let's get him to stop making predictions.

Yeah ... that's the ticket.

Winki is to blame ... and those damn blue uniforms.

[Doomsday101]

Talk about an understatement. Not to mention the fact that these are the same mistakes or in my opinion weaknesses of his being exploited that have been taking place since long before he arrived in Dallas. Bledsoe isnt the only one who got exposed, Watkins and Williams both got exposed a bit, but again I blame Zimmer he is an idiot. Watkins is better at roaming then Roy so why is Watkins locked up in man coverage and Roy roaming around instead of vice versa? Zimmer's schemes are too predictable in my opinion.

Dallas called a CB blitz that is why Watkins got matched up one on one. Ellis missed the sack on that play giving McNabb extra time to find the matchup

[justbob]

Its way too early to make a change. Too early.

There is too much on the line still.

People are acting like the season is over or something because we lost to a good team on the road. We were in the game even though we played poorly.

You could see Philly starting off fast this year. This was a tough spot to be in yesterday and we still came within one play of forcing overtime.

The Player I am most dissapointed in is Flozell Adams, I believe adams more than anyone cost us this game.

My hats off to the eagles, Mcnabb is one of the five best players in this le

ague and he shows that every week.



Lets see ---Flo was terrible --agreed ---except for every 10th play on every
2 sun --he palys that way --fortunatly for us he is big enough it takes the slower player to long to runaround his big butt
The eagles did come to play
We must have some talent to make that many mistakes and still be in the game

I believe in our team. I still am not ready to change bledsoe out for romo, I think he has to be given the next two home games, because I dont think we will see our defense struggle with the big play again like that this year.

We lost in Philly in the early 90s during two super bowl years, in fact we got whipped in 92 up there.

We just need to get the next two keep our head above water and then get two of the three against the cardinals, skins and panthers. If we do that and go to 6-3 we play 5 of the last 7 at home. Our defense is different at home.

Please remember while everyone is freaking out today that the eagles played the easy part of their schedule already, we get tampa, detroit and houston at home.

I cant believe how people overreact to one game...We know going in that eagles were going to make some big plays, we just made a mistake in the end to cost us.

Why is it to early to make a change?? ---two tough teams with decent Defenses
and the result was the same ---In truth I believe we have a huge amount of talent on this team --but not enough support staff(yes Coaches) to get the job done---that includes Bledsoe ---By changing QB's we run the chance of
mistakes like interceptions until he matures --so what is different---since we lost to the eagles --that makes us part of the "easy scedule"

[Bleu Star]

Dallas called a CB blitz that is why Watkins got matched up one on one. Ellis missed the sack on that play giving McNabb extra time to find the matchup

Yes. That was a costly whiff by Ellis on that play.

[Hussein]

Sorry, still don't trust Romo. Same was said about DB after Jax game. We gave them the game and still had a chance. I don't wanna go thru the growing pais of a first yr QB--not this year.

[Bleu Star]

I don't wanna go thru the growing pais of a first yr QB--not this year.

What's the difference between that and a guaranteed 8-8 (9-7 at best) season?

[Aikmaniac]

Sorry, still don't trust Romo. Same was said about DB after Jax game. We gave them the game and still had a chance. I don't wanna go thru the growing pais of a first yr QB--not this year.

So you'd rather swim in the river of mediocrity for ANOTHER season with the talent that's on this team?

[Chuck 54]

I'm not a big believer in Romo, but Leinart had a nice game yesterday as a rookie. If Romo isn't ready after 4 years, he may never be ready.

[theebs]

Why is it to early to make a change?? ---two tough teams with decent Defenses
and the result was the same ---In truth I believe we have a huge amount of talent on this team --but not enough support staff(yes Coaches) to get the job done---that includes Bledsoe ---By changing QB's we run the chance of
mistakes like interceptions until he matures --so what is different---since we lost to the eagles --that makes us part of the "easy scedule"

So your ready to put romo in? THis week? What if he gets no pressure on him sunday and throws three picks because he cant read the defense and we lost 17-6?

IF that were to happen you would be the first guy on here saying we need to put bledsoe in. We can put romo in until we get to the point that we are in dire straights and there is no chance of it turning around.

To me there is absolutely no way u put romo in now with the giants coming up in two weeks and a team in houston who could possibly get some big plays in the passing game and force us to score points. I want bledsoe in the game, with time he will take houston apart.

Now if houston blows up our offensive line in the same manner as philly, which wont happen because they do not have the personnel to do it, then the problem will be painfully obvious.

THis game against houston should be a game where they get no pressure and bledsoe has time to make the big play. If we then in turn get a lead we can dominate the game.

The giants game makes me nervous because they can do all the stunting and cause chaos because of the talent up front. Bledsoe has to be given these games.

Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.

[odog422]

Sorry, still don't trust Romo. Same was said about DB after Jax game. We gave them the game and still had a chance. I don't wanna go thru the growing pais of a first yr QB--not this year.

you mean like locking onto one receiver (TG) and forcing every throw to him at the expense of your other four options?

or maybe you mean like holding onto to the ball at the end of the game with less than a minute left and you ABSOLUTELY cannot take a sack?

sorry. after jax, i said "aberration" giving bledsoe the benefit of the doubt. two out of four games, add pressure and a meltdown ensues? make the change.

my point being, bledsoe has not demonstrated any sort of veteran intangibles that justify leaving him in there.

[odog422]

So your ready to put romo in? THis week? What if he gets no pressure on him sunday and throws three picks because he cant read the defense and we lost 17-6?

IF that were to happen you would be the first guy on here saying we need to put bledsoe in. We can put romo in until we get to the point that we are in dire straights and there is no chance of it turning around.

To me there is absolutely no way u put romo in now with the giants coming up in two weeks and a team in houston who could possibly get some big plays in the passing game and force us to score points. I want bledsoe in the game, with time he will take houston apart.

Now if houston blows up our offensive line in the same manner as philly, which wont happen because they do not have the personnel to do it, then the problem will be painfully obvious.

THis game against houston should be a game where they get no pressure and bledsoe has time to make the big play. If we then in turn get a lead we can dominate the game.

The giants game makes me nervous because they can do all the stunting and cause chaos because of the talent up front. Bledsoe has to be given these games.

Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.

basically, it sounds to me like you want me to "settle" for what we have in bledsoe - a good qb with no pressure, but add pressure then all bets are off.

i submit that if i have other options that may be better, why should i?

[Bleu Star]

Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.

It really sounds like you're happy with the status quo. I'm not. People keep bringing up the "what ifs" where it pertains to Romo but I will take a "what if" over a "already know" anyday.

Let me again point to the growing list of first year starters that had very good games yesterday.

Rivers
Leinert
Gradkowski (please look this guy up)
Grossman

[bysbox1]

basically, it sounds to me like you want me to "settle" for what we have in bledsoe - a good qb with no pressure, but add pressure then all bets are off.

i submit that if i have other options that may be better, why should i?

:hammer:

Plus, this is not the first time Bledsoe has done this. He played the same way in NE and Buffalo.

[theebs]

basically, it sounds to me like you want me to "settle" for what we have in bledsoe - a good qb with no pressure, but add pressure then all bets are off.

i submit that if i have other options that may be better, why should i?

I am not settling for anything, I am not happy our qb is getting killed and then in turn making bad plays. I am not happy with that either, but I think we have no recourse right now.

I will say it again. If romo plays next week and throws three bad picks and we lose to houston 17-6, then what? You cant go back to bledsoe for sure and you then are 2-3 with the giants at home....lose that game and the season maybe over.

Stay with bledsoe now and he should have a big game next week and then playing at home against the giants should have the opportunity to play well.

If you go to romo and lose against houston and then the giants you are 2-4 with three straight road games?

So you have to ask yourself, do you want to be 3-6 going into november with a quarterback who is struggling or do you want to beat houston next week, have a chance against ny and then get into position to make something happen with 5 of 7 at home down the stretch.

Again, blame adams, roy williams and pat watkins before you blame bledsoe, and you can blame owens also, he stunk the whole game and now he is whining on the sidelines...

[theebs]

It really sounds like you're happy with the status quo. I'm not. People keep bringing up the "what ifs" where it pertains to Romo but I will take a "what if" over a "already know" anyday.

Let me again point to the growing list of first year starters that had very good games yesterday.

Rivers
Leinert
Gradkowski (please look this guy up)
Grossman


Read my other posts, I am tired of this already. I dont need to look up those guys I know who they are, thanks though.

Now you need to re-ask this same question to yourself but with this twist. How would Rivers, leinart, gradowski or grossman played behind our offensive line yesterday in a playoff atmosphere in Philadelphia? Thats the real question....behind this line, particularly flozell adams, who would have played well?

[Bleu Star]

Again, blame adams, roy williams and pat watkins before you blame bledsoe, and you can blame owens also, he stunk the whole game and now he is whining on the sidelines...

It's amazing how differently we see things. There's plenty of blame to go around but anyone can see a 223yd, 3INT game is a place for just a hint of blame.

[Oh_Canada]

This is killing me.....people seem to be complacent with mediocrity.
We CANNOT win big games on the road with Drew as the QB anymore......so what the heck is the point?
We are talking about a 35 year-old QB with a 63.6 passer rating people......63.6!!!! That is third last among all starting QB's.....just ahead of the soon-to-be-benched Jake Plummer and very raw rookie Vince Young.
The Boys are not winning a Super Bowl with Drew at the helm, it's very clear now. Next week is the ideal time to bring Romo in to start.....it needs to happen sooner rather than later.

[BulletBob]

Read my other posts, I am tired of this already. I dont need to look up those guys I know who they are, thanks though.

Now you need to re-ask this same question to yourself but with this twist. How would Rivers, leinart, gradowski or grossman played behind our offensive line yesterday in a playoff atmosphere in Philadelphia? Thats the real question....behind this line, particularly flozell adams, who would have played well?

With Moxie, my dear theebs, with plenty 'o MOXIE!

[Bleu Star]

Read my other posts, I am tired of this already. I dont need to look up those guys I know who they are, thanks though.

Now you need to re-ask this same question to yourself but with this twist. How would Rivers, leinart, gradowski or grossman played behind our offensive line yesterday in a playoff atmosphere in Philadelphia? Thats the real question....behind this line, particularly flozell adams, who would have played well?

I've played left tackle and I can tell you, without a blink, that the QB sets the tone in the huddle and at the line. Players don't purposely play differently for different quarterbacks. However, when a qb step in the huddle with an air of confidence surrounding him that confidence is contagious.

[Doomsday101]

It's amazing how differently we see things. There's plenty of blame to go around but anyone can see a 223yd, 3INT game is a place for just a hint of blame.

Sure it is, Bledsoe is not walking away from blame and as a fan I'm not excusing him of any blame he clearly made some mistakes that hurt us. He also made some plays that helped us in the game. Placing some blame on players and wanting them benched is a bit different.

[SultanOfSix]

Sure it is, Bledsoe is not walking away from blame and as a fan I'm not excusing him of any blame he clearly made some mistakes that hurt us. He also made some plays that helped us in the game. Placing some blame on players and wanting them benched is a bit different.

You know what? I would feel a lot better blaming a rookie FS for this loss, than a 14 year veteran who makes the same boneheaded mistakes when the pressure is on, but I just can't make myself do that.

[theebs]

I've played left tackle and I can tell you, without a blink, that the QB sets the tone in the huddle and at the line. Players don't purposely play differently for different quarterbacks. However, when a qb step in the huddle with an air of confidence surrounding him that confidence is contagious.


So flozell adams whiffing on running plays and letting trent cole run free on bledsoe's blind side is bledsoes fault?

I dont get it?

[theebs]

With Moxie, my dear theebs, with plenty 'o MOXIE!

really so romo would have done what differently exactly when he hit his third step in a five step drop and he is getting hit from behind because his left takcle is a stiff?

I am curious what would he have done? You mean to tell me romos moxie would have made flozell adams block better....or um at all?

[Bleu Star]

So flozell adams whiffing on running plays and letting trent cole run free on bledsoe's blind side is bledsoes fault?

I dont get it?

Flozell had a bad game. Sure. I'll give you that. On the flip side, Bledslug did nothing to buy time in the pocket and perhaps burn an aggressive D that was blitzing him as if he were the statuesque Thinker.

http://www.e-grammes.gr/ideology/thinker.jpg

[Doomsday101]

You know what? I would feel a lot better blaming a rookie FS for this loss, than a 14 year veteran who makes the same boneheaded mistakes when the pressure is on, but I just can't make myself do that.

I don't feel better that both made mistakes or some vet offensive lineman could not keep a defender from coming on their insides for easier play on the QB. If a defense can put pressure in the face of a QB you will force him to make mistakes be it Troy Aikman or any other QB that is why we try to put pressure on QB's and why every team trys to get pressure on the opposing QB is to force mistakes. When Dallas got pressure on McNabb he made mistakes as well but we clearly did not bring as much pressure on him as they did on us.

[BulletBob]

really so romo would have done what differently exactly when he hit his third step in a five step drop and he is getting hit from behind because his left takcle is a stiff?

I am curious what would he have done? You mean to tell me romos moxie would have made flozell adams block better....or um at all?

It was a joke - lighten up, Francis.

[Zaxor]

So your ready to put romo in? THis week? What if he gets no pressure on him sunday and throws three picks because he cant read the defense and we lost 17-6?


Than he would be Bledsoe


IF that were to happen you would be the first guy on here saying we need to put bledsoe in. We can put romo in until we get to the point that we are in dire straights and there is no chance of it turning around.


Why would he do that...knowing that Bledsoe could have and probably would have just as easily thrown those same Ints

To me there is absolutely no way u put romo in now with the giants coming up in two weeks and a team in houston who could possibly get some big plays in the passing game and force us to score points. I want bledsoe in the game, with time he will take houston apart.

so lets lose to the giants with Bledsoe which has a better than a pretty good chance of happening than playing Romo and possibly catching lighting in a bottle

Now if houston blows up our offensive line in the same manner as philly, which wont happen because they do not have the personnel to do it, then the problem will be painfully obvious.

THis game against houston should be a game where they get no pressure and bledsoe has time to make the big play. If we then in turn get a lead we can dominate the game.

The giants game makes me nervous because they can do all the stunting and cause chaos because of the talent up front. Bledsoe has to be given these games.

Again, if romo were to play sunday and throw three picks with no pressure and we lose to houston, then our season is in jeopardy because you cant go back to bledsoe.

yes we can go back to Bledsoe but only if we want to be .500

[Bleu Star]

we clearly did not bring as much pressure on him as they did on us.

That's because he has that added dimension that today's QB needs. The ability to escape. How many successful pocket passers do we have in the league right now. Not many. Yet another PP (Kurt Warner) has been replaced.

[Zaxor]

really so romo would have done what differently exactly when he hit his third step in a five step drop and he is getting hit from behind because his left takcle is a stiff?

I am curious what would he have done? You mean to tell me romos moxie would have made flozell adams block better....or um at all?

Romo would have blew fire out of his ... and burnt him to a crisp:D

[Yakuza Rich]

The Eagles are often in games where they dont control the clock, doesnt mean anything. Their offense can and does usually strike quickly which is part of the reason they rotate the defensive players so much.


Yeah, but their average time of possession was 28 minutes before this game. They only had 23 minutes time of possession yesterday.

Obviously, you're correct in your point and the big plays given up on defense killed the defense and was a cause for the minimal time of possession the Eagles had.

But, I think they've got a point here. Dallas was controlling the clock, but they made things way too easy for McNabb. Some of that was the defense's fault (Watkins getting fooled on the LJ Smith reception), but it didn't help that the Eagles had great field position due to Bledsoe.

YAKUZA

[bysbox1]

Stay with bledsoe now and he should have a big game next week and then playing at home against the giants should have the opportunity to play well.

If you go to romo and lose against houston and then the giants you are 2-4 with three straight road games?

So you have to ask yourself, do you want to be 3-6 going into november with a quarterback who is struggling or do you want to beat houston next week, have a chance against ny and then get into position to make something happen with 5 of 7 at home down the stretch.



I don't think we will have a winning record after the next 6 games.

We should beat the Texans. But The Giants have the ability to win on the road, and proved that by beating the Eagles in their house. Plus this will have a big game atmosphere, and we all know how Bledose performs in big games.

I think we will lose the Carolina and Washington games. The Philly game gives them a blueprint on how to defend us, and you have two tough defenses in a row. And the Cardinals are not as bad as we think and that's an away game. And Indy is going to school us.

We could easily be 3-7 or 4-6 after that stretch with Indy up next. At best, I think we could be 5-5 if we beat the Giants.

If we don't make the change now, we will be in trouble.

[theebs]

Yeah, but their average time of possession was 28 minutes before this game. They only had 23 minutes time of possession yesterday.

Obviously, you're correct in your point and the big plays given up on defense killed the defense and was a cause for the minimal time of possession the Eagles had.

But, I think they've got a point here. Dallas was controlling the clock, but they made things way too easy for McNabb. Some of that was the defense's fault (Watkins getting fooled on the LJ Smith reception), but it didn't help that the Eagles had great field position due to Bledsoe.

YAKUZA

NOt sure about the watkins getting fooled comment. It was a blitz and ellis missed him, the ball should have been thrown on the stop by baskett but mcnabb dodged ellis and watkins was left in no mans land. Had ellis got his hand on mcnabb, the ball would have come out and watkins would have been in position. He looked foolish because mcnabb stepped up into the pocket, made another great play and watkins was roasted, the play was on ellis though.

[odog422]

I am not settling for anything, I am not happy our qb is getting killed and then in turn making bad plays. I am not happy with that either, but I think we have no recourse right now.

I will say it again. If romo plays next week and throws three bad picks and we lose to houston 17-6, then what? You cant go back to bledsoe for sure and you then are 2-3 with the giants at home....lose that game and the season maybe over.

Stay with bledsoe now and he should have a big game next week and then playing at home against the giants should have the opportunity to play well.

If you go to romo and lose against houston and then the giants you are 2-4 with three straight road games?

So you have to ask yourself, do you want to be 3-6 going into november with a quarterback who is struggling or do you want to beat houston next week, have a chance against ny and then get into position to make something happen with 5 of 7 at home down the stretch.

Again, blame adams, roy williams and pat watkins before you blame bledsoe, and you can blame owens also, he stunk the whole game and now he is whining on the sidelines...

WHAT IF? you cant guarantee me bledsoe will be stellar the next game against houston anymore than you can guarantee that romo will suck.

again, i KNOW that bledsoe may play well against houston and/or the giants at home. but i also KNOW that in the playoffs, if we make it, the pretenders will be far and few in btw and EVERYONE will gameplan us with one thing in mind - pressure bledsoe bc he will crumble. i know this.

i DONT KNOW if romo will. and im about progress, not the status quo.

[theebs]

WHAT IF? you cant guarantee me bledsoe will be stellar the next game against houston anymore than you can guarantee that romo will suck.

again, i KNOW that bledsoe may play well against houston and/or the giants at home. but i also KNOW that in the playoffs, if we make it, the pretenders will be far and few in btw and EVERYONE will gameplan us with one thing in mind - pressure bledsoe bc he will crumble. i know this.

i DONT KNOW if romo will. and im about progress, not the status quo.


I hear ya man.. Simply look at what I said though and understand a change at qb after the 4th game is a desperate act. I dont believe we are a desperate team, or anywhere near that. I believe we lost to a good team in a tough situation and there is plenty of blame going around and well deserved.

you cant blame bledsoe for being Drew Bledsoe. this is exactly like december in 03, I remember it like it was yesterday we lost to new orleans and brad sham and babe laufenberg said during the broadcast you cant blame quincy carter and troy hambrick for being quincy carter and troy hambrick. I believe this applies here.

I am not saying romo could not play well, I am not saying we would lose for sure. One thing I do know is that bledsoe has had good games after bad ones since coming here and he should have a good game against houston. Then we have a big divisional game with ny.

Now if he loses those two games and plays bad, romo needs to play the next three, but only if he throws interceptions without pressure and holds the ball too long.

Because of the talent on this team, the upcoming schedule and the 5 of the last 7 at home I believe there is no chance and no reason to bench bledsoe.

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.

[Bleu Star]

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back.

That is as big an IF as "If Romo starts vs the Texans we lose and the season is in the toilet".

[Crown Royal]

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.


No - I have been finished with Bledsoe since Jax. I always had a feeling that what the anti-Bledsoe crew said might be true, but I didn't believe it till then. Ever since then I am finished with Bledsoe. I know what we have in him and it isn't enough.

[Doomsday101]

That's because he has that added dimension that today's QB needs. The ability to escape. How many successful pocket passers do we have in the league right now. Not many. Yet another PP (Kurt Warner) has been replaced.

McNabb was not having to escape much at all and don't give me that todays QB that is such a load of media BS the NFL has seen it share of both and there are as many pocket QB's who have succeeded as there are mobile QB's. No doubt Drew made mistake yesterday and Dallas could have helped him out by doing a better job of protecting up the middle on the blitz but we didn't we could have rolled the pocket out a lot more but we didn't. There were a lot of things that we could have done and a lot of mistakes by many

[odog422]

I hear ya man.. Simply look at what I said though and understand a change at qb after the 4th game is a desperate act. I dont believe we are a desperate team, or anywhere near that. I believe we lost to a good team in a tough situation and there is plenty of blame going around and well deserved.

you cant blame bledsoe for being Drew Bledsoe. this is exactly like december in 03, I remember it like it was yesterday we lost to new orleans and brad sham and babe laufenberg said during the broadcast you cant blame quincy carter and troy hambrick for being quincy carter and troy hambrick. I believe this applies here.

I am not saying romo could not play well, I am not saying we would lose for sure. One thing I do know is that bledsoe has had good games after bad ones since coming here and he should have a good game against houston. Then we have a big divisional game with ny.

Now if he loses those two games and plays bad, romo needs to play the next three, but only if he throws interceptions without pressure and holds the ball too long.

Because of the talent on this team, the upcoming schedule and the 5 of the last 7 at home I believe there is no chance and no reason to bench bledsoe.

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.

yes its the 4th game of the season, but this type of play, this bledsoe being bledsoe, goes back to the end of last year. no improvement.

bad, bad game, then a good game. bad, bad game, then a good game.

im not panicking. i know there is plenty of blame to go around. but i also know a lot of guys on this team are young (watkins) other guys are returning from season-ending surgery (flozell) and one guy had a bad play (williams). they all have the chance to improve or get healthy - bledsoe is at his ceiling. this is what you get.

i also know that id rather romo cut his teeth against houston and then in a home game rather than on the road against a quality opponent.

plain and simple, I SEE NO REASON not to switch. worst case, romo sucks. its not like were going anywhere with bledsoe - as you say, bledsoe is bledsoe.

[Pine Needle]

Right now we have the 27th rated QB in the NFL.

For some reason I can't imagine Romo being much worse than that.

Yeah. No caca. Start Romo and gat back to playing football. We WILL winn with Romo. We WILL make the playoffs with Romo. After that, we might look at signing a coach who knows from one month to the next if he will choose to be around next year.

[silver]

the last time BP made a change at starting QB Vinny took over for Glenn Foley and led the '98 Jets to the playoffs.

[theebs]

Yeah. No caca. Start Romo and gat back to playing football. We WILL winn with Romo. We WILL make the playoffs with Romo. After that, we might look at signing a coach who knows from one month to the next if he will choose to be around next year.

Ding ding ding....

We have our first Fire bill parcells and he is to blame comment.

What took you so long.

[Sam I Am]

As I said in the other threads. I suspect Romo plays Sunday, but Bledsoe will still start.

[Bleu Star]

we could have rolled the pocket out a lot more but we didn't. There were a lot of things that we could have done and a lot of mistakes by many

You can't roll a pocket for a QB that can't roll with it.

[MichaelWinicki]

You can't roll a pocket for a QB that can't roll with it.

Touche.


But Bledsoe gives us the best chance to win. :rolleyes:

[Doomsday101]

You can't roll a pocket for a QB that can't roll with it.

Dallas rolled it out aginst Washington, it is comments like this that really makes me wounder about some fans. Bledsoe can move or did you miss the TD run that he had or the big 1st down he picked up on the run. This ideal that Drew can't move at all is BS but I guess if you say it enough times it must be true.

[Bigdog24]

I hear ya man.. Simply look at what I said though and understand a change at qb after the 4th game is a desperate act. I dont believe we are a desperate team, or anywhere near that. I believe we lost to a good team in a tough situation and there is plenty of blame going around and well deserved.

you cant blame bledsoe for being Drew Bledsoe. this is exactly like december in 03, I remember it like it was yesterday we lost to new orleans and brad sham and babe laufenberg said during the broadcast you cant blame quincy carter and troy hambrick for being quincy carter and troy hambrick. I believe this applies here.

I am not saying romo could not play well, I am not saying we would lose for sure. One thing I do know is that bledsoe has had good games after bad ones since coming here and he should have a good game against houston. Then we have a big divisional game with ny.

Now if he loses those two games and plays bad, romo needs to play the next three, but only if he throws interceptions without pressure and holds the ball too long.

Because of the talent on this team, the upcoming schedule and the 5 of the last 7 at home I believe there is no chance and no reason to bench bledsoe.

If bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior and how resilient he is after taking a beating like that and then still coming back. People are just mad and need to be rational, there were more bad plays from roy williams, flozell adams and pat watkins as there were from bledsoe.

bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior


Did you not watch the Seatle game last year, . When Bledsoe plays against a descent team he looks like Ryan leaf/Jeff Goerge. Heck look at him when he played Tenn last week, He was still throwing off his back foot and throwing lobs and just did not look like a real QB. throwing, moving making reeds quick crisp throws. Not lobs that hit the ground before the reciever

The guy is showing his age and acting his age

[Bleu Star]

Dallas rolled it out aginst Washington, it is comments like this that really makes me wounder about some fans. Bledsoe can move or did you miss the TD run that he had or the big 1st down he picked up on the run. This ideal that Drew can't move at all is BS but I guess if you say it enough times it must be true.

I's just calling what I see and I still have good 20/20 vision. He barely knew the definition of pocket presence yesterday. Flozell didn't break down every play.

[theebs]

bledsoe hit witten for that touchdown yesterday this board would be talking about what a warrior


Did you not watch the Seatle game last year, . When Bledsoe plays against a descent team he looks like Ryan leaf/Jeff Goerge. Heck look at him when he played Tenn last week, He was still throwing off his back foot and throwing lobs and just did not look like a real QB. throwing, moving making reeds quick crisp throws. Not lobs that hit the ground before the reciever

The guy is showing his age and acting his age

Yes I watched the seattle game...what is it with people asking other people if we watched the game....lol...

The throw in seattle was brain dead, I didnt see the brain dead throw yesterday, I saw the running for my life have to make quick decisions throws yesterday because of the stiff at LT and the rest of the line struggling.

[Stautner]

If it was going to be done then it should have been done at the start of camp not after 4 games. You may not call it over reacting but making a big change like that after 4 games in my opinion is just that an over reaction.

Your right - coaches should never change personnel once the season starts.

If they suck he should let them suck all season.

[ZeroClub]

We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.Bingo!

[Bleu Star]

Your right - coaches should never change personnel once the season starts.

If they suck he should let them suck all season.


Sorry DD101. This made me chuckle uncontrollably. It's a bad "day after" and we're all taking our frustration out on each other. I'm not trying to get anyone else riled up. I'm just as frustrated as the next person. Have a good holiday.

[Bigdog24]

Bledsoe is a veteran, IMO its a rookie mistake to give up a game by a interception. It was what 2nd down and goal from with in the 5, A veteran would/should of known you have two more downs, if its not there, its not there, don't force it. Bledsoe gave the game away by forcing a throw on 2nd Down with the game on the line, Dejavu Seatle.

[Dogstar]

First of all, the Eagles knew we were going to pass into the endzone, so why did n't we at least try one running play? Our run game was good all day, sure there was little time on the clock, but one run play probably would have make the difference.You know Bledsoe was going to force it.

[Doomsday101]

Sorry DD101. This made me chuckle uncontrollably. It's a bad "day after" and we're all taking our frustration out on each other. I'm not trying to get anyone else riled up. I'm just as frustrated as the next person. Have a good holiday.

Well if we benched every guy who had a bad game yesterday a lot of guys would be sitting next week including Bledsoe but I don't expect that to happen and fully expect to see Dallas go out next Sunday and improve our record to 3-2. What or how other fans feel is not really my concern only the play of the team is and while yesterday was a disappointment it is 1 game with many left and I expect this team to regroup.

[Bleu Star]

Well if we benched every guy who had a bad game yesterday a lot of guys would be sitting next week including Bledsoe but I don't expect that to happen and fully expect to see Dallas go out next Sunday and improve our record to 3-2. What or how other fans feel is not really my concern only the play of the team is and while yesterday was a disappointment it is 1 game with many left and I expect this team to regroup.

Let's hope you're right. I have a hard time not looking at the big 8-8 that's dangling right in front of my face yet again.

[Doomsday101]

Let's hope you're right. I have a hard time not looking at the big 8-8 that's dangling right in front of my face yet again.

All I can say is I have not lowered my expectation of this team I still expect us to make it to the playoffs and hopefully do good in it. This was a big game and it had a lot of hoppla attacked to it but it was 1 game and there will be some other big games down the line for us this season. I also don't think this team will quit on us and I hate to see fans quitting on the team but everyone looks at things differently.

[kevwun]

I didnt see the brain dead throw yesterday, I saw the running for my life have to make quick decisions throws yesterday because of the stiff at LT and the rest of the line struggling.

What do you call the interception that ended the game? He hit Lito Shepperd in the chest from like 10 yards away.