I wouldn't be surprised

[CowboyStar88]

If the texans come out swinging. We are a beaten team right now. we are a 500 team, with one more win the the texans. I don't see that game as a push over at all. throw in the mix that we have a really bad QB and it could get ugly.

[BadKarma]

If the texans come out swinging. We are a beaten team right now. we are a 500 team, with one more win the the texans. I don't see that game as a push over at all. throw in the mix that we have a really bad QB and it could get ugly.
Knowing Bledsoe, he's probably going to have a great game against a sorry team, giving Parcells another week to deflect the Romo talk.

[tyke1doe]

If the texans come out swinging. We are a beaten team right now. we are a 500 team, with one more win the the texans. I don't see that game as a push over at all. throw in the mix that we have a really bad QB and it could get ugly.

Let's not get crazy now.

The Cowboys will bounce back against the Texans.

Now against the Giants ... :Whistle:

[peplaw06]

If the texans come out swinging. We are a beaten team right now. we are a 500 team, with one more win the the texans. I don't see that game as a push over at all. throw in the mix that we have a really bad QB and it could get ugly.

If WE'RE a "beaten team," then what pray tell are the Texans??

[bysbox1]

If WE'RE a "beaten team," then what pray tell are the Texans??

A team with nothing to lose (and an offensive minded coach to boot) . . . those are the most dangerous teams in this league.

The come to Dallas, pull out all of the stops, and if we take this game lightly we could be 2-3 by Sunday night.

This is the NFL and anything can happen on any given Sunday.

[peplaw06]

A team with nothing to lose (and an offensive minded coach to boot) . . . those are the most dangerous teams in this league.

The come to Dallas, pull out all of the stops, and if we take this game lightly we could be 2-3 by Sunday night.

This is the NFL and anything can happen on any given Sunday.

Yeah we know... any given sunday yada yada. But what's to say we don't come in with a chip on our shoulder and take it out on another "beaten team."

And I disagree on who the most dangerous teams in the league are. Who's more dangerous?? Houston because they have "nothing to lose," or Chicago, Indianapolis, etc. because they actually have top tier talent?

[CowboyStar88]

This team was demoralized yesterday.. that makes them a beaten team. The texans have had 2 weeks to get ready for this game. I believe they will pull out all the stops, and dare drew to throw the ball, and when know how thats been.

[alancdc]

Let's not forget that we have played 3 of 4 games on the road this year. I am here in Carolina, and everyone is praising the Panthers for beating the sorry Browns at home. Carolina was 0-11 on third down. Now, Carolina has played 3 of 5 at home, and Philly has played 3 of 5 at home against the Packers, Giants, and us, and went to Houston and the 49ers. Check out Philly's last 6 games of the year and this should work itself out. It is a brutal finish for them. We have played 3 playoff teams this year, if Washington is a playoff team still, and the Eagles have played only one, us at home. We should be 4-2 going to Carolina in 2 weeks.

[TEK2000]

This team was demoralized yesterday.. that makes them a beaten team. The texans have had 2 weeks to get ready for this game. I believe they will pull out all the stops, and dare drew to throw the ball, and when know how thats been.

Bledsoe and Watkins were the only 2 that looked demoralized... the rest of them were fighting thru the end.

[AbeBeta]

Puh-freaking-lease.

We lost a tough road game against an opponent who played very disruptive D. Some of you need to sit back, stop posting and watch a few seasons of football before you come back.

[bysbox1]

Yeah we know... any given sunday yada yada. But what's to say we don't come in with a chip on our shoulder and take it out on another "beaten team."

And I disagree on who the most dangerous teams in the league are. Who's more dangerous?? Houston because they have "nothing to lose," or Chicago, Indianapolis, etc. because they actually have top tier talent?

Every team in the NFL has some talent, even Houston. You don't know who will get geeked on a Sunday and have a breakout day. Especially since Houston is looking at this as a Texas bragging rights game.

Now we more than likely will come out with a chip on our shoulder and beat the crap out of them, and that's fine. And you know Parcells will act as though the Texans can beat them and will coach the team as though they can get beat.

But, if this team takes Houston lightly and the Texans come out swinging . . . we WILL be 2-3.

[peplaw06]

This team was demoralized yesterday.. that makes them a beaten team. The texans have had 2 weeks to get ready for this game. I believe they will pull out all the stops, and dare drew to throw the ball, and when know how thats been.

Who on the team did you talk to that told you that they were "demoralized?"

If no one, don't you think you need to see them play at least one snap after the game before you call them demoralized from one game??

You'd think if it was so easy to harass Drew everyone would do it. How in the world has he thrown for 46,000 yards?? It's like my dad says when I criticize him... "I don't know how I made it through 56 years without you."

The PMS seems to be lasting a lot longer after this loss. Usually by now the alcohol has worn off and people have settled down.

[Da Hammer]

it all depends on how good a job the Texans can do of pressuring Bledslow. you can expect for the rest of the year for every team to blitz us early and often up the middle, if the Texans do a good of it then we are in for a close game for obvious reasons.

[peplaw06]

But, if this team takes Houston lightly and the Texans come out swinging . . . we WILL be 2-3. Thank you Captain Obvious.

Cripes, this is the NFL, it's like that EVERY WEEK!!! I'd still rather be facing Houston right now than Chicago. Call me crazy, I know. You guys are acting like the Houston friggin Texans are the worst thing that could have happened us after this "demoralizing" loss.:rolleyes:

[AbeBeta]

it all depends on how good a job the Texans can do of pressuring Bledslow. you can expect for the rest of the year for every team to blitz us early and often up the middle, if the Texans do a good of it then we are in for a close game for obvious reasons.

Honestly, if every team in the league could be effective doing that, they'd all be doing it every game. The Eagles are very good at the blitz. That's their bread and butter. Lots of teams suck at that.

[peplaw06]

Honestly, if every team in the league could be effective doing that, they'd all be doing it every game. The Eagles are very good at the blitz. That's their bread and butter. Lots of teams suck at that.

I love the bipartisanship these past 24 hours ab...;)

2 things you guys should know... If ab and I agree and you're arguing with us...

1) YOU'RE WRONG!!

and

2) You're not going to win the argument.

Just thought you should know.

[maxsports]

This thread is an over reaction thread.

[CowboyStar88]

Now I know you weren't blind and saw the look on the players faces yesterday after Drew threw that pick. 46,000 yards you want to use drews stats to defend your argument? Please the league knows if you want to beat drew make pressure his *** up the middle. Simple. As far as the TEXANS go I didn't say they were a great team, I am saying after a loss like yesterday's loss, and given the fact that the TEXANS want to badly to be texas's team, and them having 2 weeks to get better, its not going to be a push over! Remember they did beat us 4 years ago in there very first game, and we were suppose to be the better team them. Some how we always play down to the other teams level....:bang2:

[tecolote]

Honestly, if every team in the league could be effective doing that, they'd all be doing it every game. The Eagles are very good at the blitz. That's their bread and butter. Lots of teams suck at that.


Unfortunately, we are one of them.

[peplaw06]

Now I know you weren't blind and saw the look on the players faces yesterday after Drew threw that pick. 46,000 yards you want to use drews stats to defend your argument? Please the league knows if you want to beat drew make pressure his *** up the middle. Simple.

Uhh, the point was, if it's so easy to scheme against Bledsoe, how does he have the stats? How is he still in the league, and how is he 2-2 so far?

Some how we always play down to the other teams level.... Like the Titans?

[Billy Bullocks]

Im not ready to hit the panic button. We just played against the best QB in the NFC. The defense was raw. And they had alot of emotion. We lost to them at their house.

At this point, I don't think it's time to throw in the towel.

We will crush the Texans. No doubt about it.

[CowboyStar88]

the titans kept it close till the 2nd half when the d took over. and JJ broke off the hook, as did barber. I dont trust bledsoe one bit. Tell me you have confidence in going into a tough game on the road with bledsoe? How many big games on the road did bledsoe play well and we won? I am thinking carolina, and maybe sd last year? We went to seattle drew throws a pick, He didn't look good against philly last year either, redskins tore him up. Get my point? How is this team with bledsoe at the helm going to win a tight game in the playoffs? or a game that makes or breaks the playoff? we needed to beat washington last year and drew will...ugh... I just dont trust the guy..

[Da Hammer]

Honestly, if every team in the league could be effective doing that, they'd all be doing it every game. The Eagles are very good at the blitz. That's their bread and butter. Lots of teams suck at that.
thats why i say if the Texans do a good job of getting the pressure. every team will try doing the same thing as the Eagles do and its up to us to figure out a way to stop them. obviously i dont expect every team to be able to do what the Eagles did to us because they have been a great blitzing team for years now but it really isnt hard to pressure bledslow so its gonna be a danger every game.

[peplaw06]

the titans kept it close till the 2nd half when the d took over. and JJ broke off the hook, as did barber. Yeah great, they kept it close for a half. We played to their level. Score 45-14. Keep rationalizing and backing off your statement that we "always play down to another team's level." And this comes from a loss in what is possibly our toughest road game this year?

I dont trust bledsoe one bit. Tell me you have confidence in going into a tough game on the road with bledsoe? How many big games on the road did bledsoe play well and we won? I am thinking carolina, and maybe sd last year? We went to seattle drew throws a pick, He didn't look good against philly last year either, redskins tore him up. Get my point? How is this team with bledsoe at the helm going to win a tight game in the playoffs? or a game that makes or breaks the playoff? we needed to beat washington last year and drew will...ugh... I just dont trust the guy..

Couple of things...

What does this have to do with the Texans?? We're not playing on the road. If you only call road games against good teams "big games," then this one doesn't apply, on either front.

Then in the big games you mentioned, we went 3-2. So what exactly is your complaint? IMO every game on the road is tough. If you split on the road and defend your home turf, you're going to be 12-4 to 10-6.

And finally, your "point" has gone from we're a beaten team who is going to have trouble with Houston to "How can we win a tight game in the playoffs with Bledsoe?" Sounds like your initial point has been shot to hell and you're piling on the whipping boy of the day.

[Rampage]

Uhh, the point was, if it's so easy to scheme against Bledsoe, how does he have the stats? How is he still in the league, and how is he 2-2 so far?

Like the Titans?
like the titans? man that was 1 game. bet you can't find 1 like that lastyear except maybe against philly at home

[peplaw06]

like the titans? man that was 1 game. bet you can't find 1 like that lastyear except maybe against philly at home

Where we didn't play down to the other teams level? Is that what you're arguing??

Philly (like you said)
Arizona
Detroit
Washington this year
Titans

On the other hand, I hope you realize you're defending the statement that "we ALWAYS play down to the other teams level."

Games last year where we shouldn't have played down to the other teams level but we did:

Oakland
San Francisco
St. Louis (meaningless game)

This year IMO we've yet to play "down to another teams level" when that would have been a bad thing.

I wasn't a math major, but that's not "always."

[Rampage]

Where we didn't play down to the other teams level? Is that what you're arguing??

Philly (like you said)
Arizona
Detroit
Washington this year
Titans

On the other hand, I hope you realize you're defending the statement that "we ALWAYS play down to the other teams level."

Games last year where we shouldn't have played down to the other teams level but we did:

Oakland
San Francisco
St. Louis (meaningless game)

I wasn't a math major, but that's not "always."
you already mentioned the titans and i mentioned philly. so that leaves you with arizona,detroit, and washington this year.arizona i guess so. but detroit we beat by 13. and washington this year? c'mon man they were missing springs(best cb on wash.) and portis(nuff said) the fact is we do play down to our competition

[peplaw06]

you already mentioned the titans and i mentioned philly. so that leaves you with arizona,detroit, and washington this year.arizona i guess so. but detroit we beat by 13. and washington this year? c'mon man they were missing springs(best cb on wash.) and portis(nuff said) the fact is we do play down to our competition

Well you're challenge for me was to find 1. I did that and I threw in two extras just for kicks. So I passed, right?

The Detroit game was never in doubt.

And what is your point about Washington this year? They were without Portis and Springs, yes I know. I watched the game too. When you're missing two important starters, your level of play is going to drop. Did we play to their level? No. Sounds like you're making my point for me. I really don't need your help, but thanks.

And finally if we do "play down to our competition," I'm going to need more examples from you than the three I mentioned. Because it doesn't seem the facts support you. I've got 5 against your 3 (2 1/2) right now. But I'm sure that won't shut you up.

[ravidubey]

At Jacksonville and we lose by a score and at Philly the game is decided on the final play. We're in there fighting, and the schedule does not favor us right now.

In contrast, Philly has played its two toughest games at home and is 1-1 in those games and has played three easy teams.

It's a long season, and Philly can't run the ball. Lost in the shuffle was the Cowboys kept battling, were never out of it, and Julius Jones ran for 100 yards.

[CowboyStar88]

wow I brought up the stats because you did about his 46,000 yards etc... As far as the we always play down to the other teams level its true. If you want to go back to last year to prove your point then fine. The Cowboys have a history of not putting bad teams away plain and simple. there is always talk of the need to beat the teams that they should beat, but when they beat them they don't look good. I am not just talking about loses, even wins. Come on man your smarter then that. Its pointless to argue with you over it. I feel that if dallas doesnt play well don't discredit a texans team who wants to prove something. Personally I am tired of the one good game one bad game ****, we've endured over the past few years, can this team string a few wins together? Lets hope they come out and blow the texans back to where they belong... in the seller

[Rampage]

Well you're challenge for me was to find 1. I did that and I threw in two extras just for kicks. So I passed, right?

The Detroit game was never in doubt.

And what is your point about Washington this year? They were without Portis and Springs, yes I know. I watched the game too. When you're missing two important starters, your level of play is going to drop. Did we play to their level? No. Sounds like you're making my point for me. I really don't need your help, but thanks.

And finally if we do "play down to our competition," I'm going to need more examples from you than the three I mentioned. Because it doesn't seem the facts support you. I've got 5 against your 3 (2 1/2) right now. But I'm sure that won't shut you up.
you know now that i think about it. maybe we don't play down to our competition. maybe it is parcells way of "playing not to lose" rather then "playing to win" what do you think?

[CowboyStar88]

Playing to lose gets you a loss IMO. :banghead:

[peplaw06]

As far as the we always play down to the other teams levels its true. If you want to go back to last year to prove your point then fine. What you wanted this to be only about this year? When did we do it this year?

The Cowboys have a history of not putting bad teams away plain and simple. there is always talk of the need to beat the teams that they should beat, but when they beat them they don't look good. I am not just talking about loses, even wins. I don't know WHAT the hell you're talking about. You say we have a "history of not putting teams away?" You want to go through all the times in history when we haven't put a team away? The Cowboys are one of, if not THE, most successful franchises in the NFL... did you get that memo? If you accept that as fact, then I'd say necessarily it means we're pretty good at "putting teams away."

Its pointless to argue with you over it. You're right it is pointless, especially if you don't know what you're arguing and can't stay on point.

I feel that if dallas doesnt play well don't discredit a texans team who wants to prove something. WHAT?? It's dizzying talking to you...

Personally I am tired of the one good game one bad game ****, we've endured over the past few years, can this team string a few wins together? Finally!! A point. Though a little off base. I think we were 7-3 last season after 10 games.

Lets hope they come out and blow the texans back to where they belong...

The most sense you've made all night.

[Dale]

The Texans do have two things working for them: It may be their fifth game, but they already have nothing to lose with the way their season is heading; secondly, they despise us and are one of those odd teams that would like to go 1-15 so long as they beat a certain team.

But the bottom line is they are absolutely a much, much worse team than the Cowboys. A loss to the lowly Texans and we might as well go ahead and begin planning for the draft, because we're done. Good teams don't lose these games to go 2-3 early in the season. I can't imagine losing this and somehow going 8-3 the rest of the way.

[peplaw06]

you know now that i think about it. maybe we don't play down to our competition. maybe it is parcells way of "playing not to lose" rather then "playing to win" what do you think?

Well, then you'd be getting warmer. But that's not what you were trying to argue in your fly by. Glad you could give way to reason though.

I think BP is notorious for playing not to lose... It's the grind it out, control the clock philosophy. That's different from playing down to the competition though. And the one thing the "playing not to lose bit gets you" is close games and a chance to win at the end... usually. The only game from last year to this IMO where we didn't have a chance to win, was the Washington game. I don't remember much from the ST Louis game... I was in mourning. :)

That's just something you have to accept with Parcells. You're rarely going to blow teams out, but you'll rarely get blown out. It's not good for the heart, but at least it's almost always interesting.

[Rampage]

Well, then you'd be getting warmer. But that's not what you were trying to argue in your fly by. Glad you could give way to reason though.

I think BP is notorious for playing not to lose... It's the grind it out, control the clock philosophy. That's different from playing down to the competition though. And the one thing the "playing not to lose bit gets you" is close games and a chance to win at the end... usually. The only game from last year to this IMO where we didn't have a chance to win, was the Washington game. I don't remember much from the ST Louis game... I was in mourning. :)

That's just something you have to accept with Parcells. You're rarely going to blow teams out, but you'll rarely get blown out. It's not good for the heart, but at least it's almost always interesting.
i hear ya. about the rams game lastyear. you could see the boys didn't even wanna play that game since they were eliminated

[peplaw06]

Playing to lose gets you a loss IMO. :banghead:

I AGREE!!! WOW!!!

But I don't know who would "play to lose.":D

[Polamalus_Angel]

If the texans come out swinging. We are a beaten team right now. we are a 500 team, with one more win the the texans. I don't see that game as a push over at all. throw in the mix that we have a really bad QB and it could get ugly.

Defensive wise I don't see where they will overtake you. The only defensive player they have (imo) is Demeco (sp?) Ryans. Offensive-wise they have a very good qb in David Carr and Andre and Eric Moulds the WRs are no pushovers either. I could be wrong I mean look back at the Colts and Titans this past Sunday. The Texans could be a well rested team and overtake you, but I doubt it. I can't see Drew having 2 bad games in a row.

[Aikbach]

Let's not forget that we have played 3 of 4 games on the road this year. I am here in Carolina, and everyone is praising the Panthers for beating the sorry Browns at home. Carolina was 0-11 on third down. Now, Carolina has played 3 of 5 at home, and Philly has played 3 of 5 at home against the Packers, Giants, and us, and went to Houston and the 49ers. Check out Philly's last 6 games of the year and this should work itself out. It is a brutal finish for them. We have played 3 playoff teams this year, if Washington is a playoff team still, and the Eagles have played only one, us at home. We should be 4-2 going to Carolina in 2 weeks.

Dallas wasn't a playoof team, therefore Philly played NO playoff teams. I'm not convinced of their dominance they had a homefield edge and a jittery ten point spot.

[Rampage]

Defensive wise I don't see where they will overtake you. The only defensive player they have (imo) is Demeco (sp?) Ryans. Offensive-wise they have a very good qb in David Carr and Andre and Eric Moulds the WRs are no pushovers either. I could be wrong I mean look back at the Colts and Titans this past Sunday. The Texans could be a well rested team and overtake you, but I doubt it. I can't see Drew having 2 bad games in a row.
if we lose to the texans im breaking something

[lspain1]

The Texans do have two things working for them: It may be their fifth game, but they already have nothing to lose with the way their season is heading; secondly, they despise us and are one of those odd teams that would like to go 1-15 so long as they beat a certain team.

But the bottom line is they are absolutely a much, much worse team than the Cowboys. A loss to the lowly Texans and we might as well go ahead and begin planning for the draft, because we're done. Good teams don't lose these games to go 2-3 early in the season. I can't imagine losing this and somehow going 8-3 the rest of the way.

Well spoken Dale. We need to take care of business at home and today's picture will brighten considerably. The Cowboys are a hard team to figure out right now. Are we good or not? We have problem areas. Can we solve them? Beating the Texans will be reassuring and then we can face another team that is hard to figure out.

One bright spot for me is that we are pretty much injury free right now.

[cowboyed]

Bledsoe and Watkins were the only 2 that looked demoralized... the rest of them were fighting thru the end.

At least Watkins is a rookie and he could have used a little help from Roy on the flea flicker which was interceptable.

This Bledsoe thing is becoming very Testaverde like. Some fans are starting to wish for a loss and or bad performance by Bledsoe to get him out of there.

[cowboyed]

Puh-freaking-lease.

We lost a tough road game against an opponent who played very disruptive D. Some of you need to sit back, stop posting and watch a few seasons of football before you come back.

That same disruptive D was held in check last year by a less talented Dallas Oline. Bledsoe is making uncalled for mistakes with aplomb this season. How did he start out against Titans last week? Why he threw an interception in the very first series, oh well...

Chucking the ball into the stands without a thought about intentional grounding. Holding on to the ball too long and taking a sack a mile behind your line instead of throwing it away. Underthrowing to an available receiver and negating a sure touchdown under miminal pressure. There were bad plays he lucked out on also. He very well could have had a few more interceptions and at least another fumble had we not recovered the ball.

How about when he got out of the pocket jogged upfield and surveyed for receivers for what appeared to be a week, then got whacked from behind by the defender and lost the ball. We were lucky to recover it.

In my opinion he had a worse day than Quincy Carter did several years ago against Arizona. And Bledsoe played worse against the Eagles than he did against the Jaguars, which was abysmal to say the least.

I agree it wasn't all on him. The Oline and our defense is culpable. Nevertheless he is an experienced veteran.

[lspain1]

I agree it wasn't all on him. The Oline and our defense is culpable. Nevertheless he is an experienced veteran.


Good comment. I don't want Bledsoe to win it himself, but I really want him to make fewer mistakes. It's easy to say...and hard to do.

[REDVOLUTION]

If the texans come out swinging. We are a beaten team right now. we are a 500 team, with one more win the the texans. I don't see that game as a push over at all. throw in the mix that we have a really bad QB and it could get ugly.

I hear and feel your frustration but if the Texans come out swinging we are good enough to swing and hit back so I disagree there.

As far as being a beaten team... I dont think so... we are team that was in position to be 4-0 at this point(and dont think BP doesnt feel that way too, regardless of his "you are what your record says you are" line) so instead we are 2-2 (saints are 4-1) whooda thunk it?

You say we are a .500 team? well it depends how you look at it. We are 2-2 with the 2 wins coming against horrible teams and the losses against good team. So is it that we should be 4-0 by beating some good teams and beatimg the teams we should beat? or is that we are a sub 500 team because we are winless against good teams and beat 2 bad teams?

We are .000 against good teams NOT .500