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REDVOLUTION
10-12-2006, 10:29 AM
Design a game plan for Romo with limited liability.

Let the stars around him carry him through these growing pains.


A quick slant to TO
A deep pass to Glenn
Safety valve-Witten
Julius can run and take pressure off of him
defense can carry this team in some capacity
special teams
let him roll out
how about a screen passWe really have enough talent around him to take the Ravens, Steelers approach

Doomsday101
10-12-2006, 10:32 AM
Design a game plan for Romo with limited liability.

Let the stars around him carry him through these growing pains.


A quick slant to TO
A deep pass to Glenn
Safety valve-Witten
Julius can run and take pressure off of him
defense can carry this team in some capacity
special teams
let him roll out
how about a screen passWe really have enough talent around him to take the Ravens, Steelers approach


Because the HC knows better? You guys can keep on making these post but it is not going to change the minds of those who do not think now is the time to panic and the only agreements are from the ones who want a change. So why continue every day with the same post?

rgcowboys
10-12-2006, 10:47 AM
You know everybody was asking for a screen play against the Eagles. I dont think you needed a screen play. You could of had Julius chip the defensive and get a swing pass to him, or just a regular swing pass. They should of did a wr reverse to T.O. first play in the 2nd half. Maybe even have Crayton get the ball and throw it, wasn't he a qb in college?

Angus
10-12-2006, 10:48 AM
Because the HC knows better? You guys can keep on making these post but it is not going to change the minds of those who do not think now is the time to panic and the only agreements are from the ones who want a change. So why continue every day with the same post?

Because it is not about panic. It is about correcting a problem and inviting analysis.

Doomsday101
10-12-2006, 10:50 AM
Because it is not about panic. It is about correcting a problem and inviting analysis.

Your right 100 post of replace Bledsoe is good analysis? Give me a break. :laugh2:

CactusCowboy
10-12-2006, 10:52 AM
I have already mentioned that they should play him like the Cahrgers are playing Rivers.

Vtwin
10-12-2006, 11:23 AM
Design a game plan for Romo with limited liability.

Let the stars around him carry him through these growing pains.


A quick slant to TO
A deep pass to Glenn
Safety valve-Witten
Julius can run and take pressure off of him
defense can carry this team in some capacity
special teams
let him roll out
how about a screen passWe really have enough talent around him to take the Ravens, Steelers approach

Exactly.Parcells' offensive approach is to build a unit that doesn't need to rely on the QB making all the plays. He just needs someone to "drive the bus".Drew does fine on the straights but as soon as he hits those twistys he drives the bus right off the cliff.The problem is, once you go over the cliff a few times you really start to tense up when you enter the corner.I think DB has driven over the cliff to many times.For the record, I live in New England and got to watch DB when he was with the Pats. I really liked him for his cool head and toughness. I supported him coming to Dallas and supported him through last season. It has become obvious to me that he is just going to break our hearts. I don't know if Romo is the answer but I do know that Drew is not. I really hate to say that but the writing is on the wall.

StarAmongStars
10-12-2006, 11:26 AM
Design a game plan for Romo with limited liability.

Let the stars around him carry him through these growing pains.


A quick slant to TO
A deep pass to Glenn
Safety valve-Witten
Julius can run and take pressure off of him
defense can carry this team in some capacity
special teams
let him roll out
how about a screen passWe really have enough talent around him to take the Ravens, Steelers approach

You sir are right...after all our secondary has been downright dominant this year.:lmao2:

REDVOLUTION
10-12-2006, 11:31 AM
You sir are right...after all our secondary has been downright dominant this year.:lmao2:

If you break down the TRUE points given up by the defense then we are really good on defense. I am not talking about Drew fumbling on the opponents 20 and then the opposing offense scoring. Thats a short field created by our offense.

StarAmongStars
10-12-2006, 11:35 AM
If you break down the TRUE points given up by the defense then we are really good on defense. I am not talking about Drew fumbling on the opponents 20 and then the opposing offense scoring. Thats a short field created by our offense.

The bottom line is that you're comparing our pourous defense to that of teams that never gave up the big plays we did against philly in the passing game....maybe one time all year. We gave up 3 huge pass plays against scrub receivers.

Our defense might be really bad this year.....and we need a QB that can win us games if we get into a lot of shootout/high scoring affairs....there is no evidence whatsoever that Romo can do that....Bledsoe on the other hand has done this many times in his career.

REDVOLUTION
10-12-2006, 11:42 AM
The bottom line is that you're comparing our pourous defense to that of teams that never gave up the big plays we did against philly in the passing game....maybe one time all year. We gave up 3 huge pass plays against scrub receivers..

Rookie mistake on Watkins he will get better



Our defense might be really bad this year.....and we need a QB that can win us games if we get into a lot of shootout/high scoring affairs....there is no evidence whatsoever that Romo can do that....Bledsoe on the other hand has done this many times in his career.

I dont agree about the defense... they might be really bad? are you are about that???

If we need a QB that can win games for us because(as you say) our d will be really bad:rolleyes: then we are in real trouble.

Bledsoe has probably lost as many big games as he has won. Hence our record 2-2

CaptainAmerica
10-12-2006, 11:43 AM
You would think he could take the same approach as he did with Quincy and if he went to the playoffs with Quincy at QB, Romo could at least accomplish something positive.

REDVOLUTION
10-12-2006, 11:46 AM
You would think he could take the same approach as he did with Quincy and if he went to the playoffs with Quincy at QB, Romo could at least accomplish something positive.


Good point.
That comparison is good. Romo is probably better than QC, he has mobility too and I bet you will make less piss poor decisions.... that was QC's greatest weakness and we still got into playoffs

sjordan6
10-12-2006, 12:07 PM
Because the HC knows better? You guys can keep on making these post but it is not going to change the minds of those who do not think now is the time to panic and the only agreements are from the ones who want a change. So why continue every day with the same post?


You are so right Doomsday...I gave my post about Q-Car ( which caused a pretty good ruckus) but the bottom line is BP will not make the switch just because we say so. He is looking at deadslow from a different lens.
I guess its upsetting because I truly believe that Romo is a better qb and the patriots go lucky when deadslow got hurt.
Think about how Brady was a sixth round pick and fourth stringer as a rookie. his second year, because of deadslow's injury, starts 14 games and the team goes 11-5. Deadslow gets healthy and NE elects to go with Brady in the SB and of course the MVP and rest is history.
The Bills had rather draft and start a rookie in J.P. Losman than commit to Deadslow.
I mean the proof is in the pudding and as a die hard its frustrating because we have a VERY talented team and BP stubborness will not allow us to witness a potential SB run.
But you are right we might as well bite that bullet and hope for the best.

Doomsday101
10-12-2006, 12:12 PM
You are so right Doomsday...I gave my post about Q-Car ( which caused a pretty good ruckus) but the bottom line is BP will not make the switch just because we say so. He is looking at deadslow from a different lens.
I guess its upsetting because I truly believe that Romo is a better qb and the patriots go lucky when deadslow got hurt.
Think about how Brady was a sixth round pick and fourth stringer as a rookie. his second year, because of deadslow's injury, starts 14 games and the team goes 11-5. Deadslow gets healthy and NE elects to go with Brady in the SB and of course the MVP and rest is history.
The Bills had rather draft and start a rookie in J.P. Losman than commit to Deadslow.
I mean the proof is in the pudding and as a die hard its frustrating because we have a VERY talented team and BP stubborness will not allow us to witness a potential SB run.
But you are right we might as well bite that bullet and hope for the best.

Yet it was Bledsoe who came in during the championship game to help NE get to the show. The only stubborness I see is by the fans who actually think they know Romo is ready and are unwilling to accept any thing else. The staff sees Romo day in and day out. I do think they think highly of Romo but they are not going to make a change at this stage and risk the season. We are 2-2 not 0-4

neosapien23
10-12-2006, 12:19 PM
Yet it was Bledsoe who came in during the championship game to help NE get to the show. The only stubborness I see is by the fans who actually think they know Romo is ready and are unwilling to accept any thing else. The staff sees Romo day in and day out. I do think they think highly of Romo but they are not going to make a change at this stage and risk the season. We are 2-2 not 0-4


I'm not saying to pull Bledsoe out now, but if he plays good against bad teams and bad against good teams for the next 4 weeks, then could we agree that a change might be needed? He had a bad game at Jacksonville and another in Philly. If he plays poorly against 2 more good teams, than I would think I change is needed.

Doomsday101
10-12-2006, 12:21 PM
I'm not saying to pull Bledsoe out now, but if he plays good against bad teams and bad against good teams for the next 4 weeks, then could we agree that a change might be needed? He had a bad game at Jacksonville and another in Philly. If he plays poorly against 2 more good teams, than I would think I change is needed.

I'm not going to say that would be out of the question it could happen.

sjordan6
10-12-2006, 12:23 PM
Yet it was Bledsoe who came in during the championship game to help NE get to the show. The only stubborness I see is by the fans who actually think they know Romo is ready and are unwilling to accept any thing else. The staff sees Romo day in and day out. I do think they think highly of Romo but they are not going to make a change at this stage and risk the season. We are 2-2 not 0-4

Well, I understand the fact that the staffs see Romo everyday and that's the reason why the kept him this long....extended his contract...and made him the second string last year in his second year! But just like Brady, if deadslow doesnt get hurt then, then you never get to see his potential. Hey don't get me wrong I am projecting him to be all that but I have seen enough in pre-season to know he deserves a shot. You have to start sometime. And we may be 2-2 and I am not in panic mode but like T.O. says we could be 4-0! And before you start fussing at my expectations I am just looking at the "missed opportunities" that Deadslow has pretty much made a habit.

Doomsday101
10-12-2006, 12:29 PM
Well, I understand the fact that the staffs see Romo everyday and that's the reason why the kept him this long....extended his contract...and made him the second string last year in his second year! But just like Brady, if deadslow doesnt get hurt then, then you never get to see his potential. Hey don't get me wrong I am projecting him to be all that but I have seen enough in pre-season to know he deserves a shot. You have to start sometime. And we may be 2-2 and I am not in panic mode but like T.O. says we could be 4-0! And before you start fussing at my expectations I am just looking at the "missed opportunities" that Deadslow has pretty much made a habit.

Well I'm hearing about poorly ran routs from the Cowboy coach right now I'm seeing poor blitz pick ups and throwing Romo out there at this stage is too much of a chance this early in the season. I like Romo and when his time comes I'll be in his corner all the way but right now no I don't think it is wise to put our season in his hands at this stage. I keep hearing Bledsoe can only beat easy team well we don't know if Romo can do that right now and the fact is Bledsoe has played well aginst some good teams. I also feel playing training camp at this point in my opinion is not a good option. Pre-season is not the same as the reg season

sf49rh8r
10-12-2006, 12:30 PM
Because the HC knows better? You guys can keep on making these post but it is not going to change the minds of those who do not think now is the time to panic and the only agreements are from the ones who want a change. So why continue every day with the same post?


After 3 years and he's not ready then the problem is with the coaches. That has been plenty of time to get him ready. What if Drew gets knocked out of the game. Will he be ready then? I like the idea. It's nothing different than what Pittsburgh did with Ben. And against the Texans it would be a good time to get his feet wet. If he can't play then why is he here?

CrazyCowboy
10-12-2006, 12:30 PM
I am not ready to put Bledsoe in retirement .....yet!

Doomsday101
10-12-2006, 12:38 PM
After 3 years and he's not ready then the problem is with the coaches. That has been plenty of time to get him ready. What if Drew gets knocked out of the game. Will he be ready then? I like the idea. It's nothing different than what Pittsburgh did with Ben. And against the Texans it would be a good time to get his feet wet. If he can't play then why is he here?

I did not say he could not play I'm saying Bledsoe is the better of the 2 at this stage regarless of what you think and Parcells is not going to treat this season as some training camp experiment with Romo to make some fans happy. Romo will get his chance but they are not going to do it at this stage of the season. What Pitt did with Rothlisberge happened because of an injury to their starting QB they were not planing on putting him out there. Once they did Pitt relied heavy on their running game and defense and ask little for Rothlisberger in the passing game

sjordan6
10-12-2006, 12:43 PM
Well I'm hearing about poorly ran routs from the Cowboy coach right now I'm seeing poor blitz pick ups and throwing Romo out there at this stage is too much of a chance this early in the season. I like Romo and when his time comes I'll be in his corner all the way but right now no I don't think it is wise to put our season in his hands at this stage. I keep hearing Bledsoe can only beat easy team well we don't know if Romo can do that right now and the fact is Bledsoe has played well aginst some good teams. I also feel playing training camp at this point in my opinion is not a good option. Pre-season is not the same as the reg season

These are good points and I hope you are right about Bledsoe. But the trend of playing good against bad teams and playing bad against good team will not stop anytime soon. Sure he played decent last season against teams like giants, kc, philly...but boy I cant help but notice the many times bledsoe left sooo many tds on the field. It kinda reminds me of hambrick leaving sooo many yards on the fields because of his lack of speed and flexibility. I understand that bledsoe is what he is and will not change period. But his play always seems to have you begging for more and I dont think he has anything else to give. Romo may or may not be the answer but i think if you are a very good football team with a solid defense then you dont need a HOF qb to lead you. Just drive the bus(as BP says) and dont make mistakes! examples include ben in pittsburg (2nd yr guy), dilfer w/baltimore, bradys first SB,...hell Q-car got us to the playoffs by just driving and not making mistakes. Doomsday, Deadslow is prone to make big mistakes in crucial times. I just think its not a bad idea to let romo not make mistakes.

sf49rh8r
10-12-2006, 12:49 PM
Why do we have to wait for an injury? Or for the season to be lost? At that point and time we have no choice. There were games late last season where yes we had a miniscule chance of making the playoffs, but realisitically we were done. A few snaps for Romo might have been appropriate.

I like Drew, don't get me wrong but it's very frustrating to see him repeat the same kind of plays over and over. We can't afford to just beat bad teams and lose to good teams. This team deserves better.

We've heard all about poorly ran routes, poor protection and every other excuse. That last int was good protection. Witten wasn't open. What happened to checking off to another option? He had time. He panicked like a QB who has never thrown an NFL regular season pass. OH my bad that would be Romo not a 14 year vet.

Just get me some wins.

sf49rh8r
10-12-2006, 12:51 PM
These are good points and I hope you are right about Bledsoe. But the trend of playing good against bad teams and playing bad against good team will not stop anytime soon. Sure he played decent last season against teams like giants, kc, philly...but boy I cant help but notice the many times bledsoe left sooo many tds on the field. It kinda reminds me of hambrick leaving sooo many yards on the fields because of his lack of speed and flexibility. I understand that bledsoe is what he is and will not change period. But his play always seems to have you begging for more and I dont think he has anything else to give. Romo may or may not be the answer but i think if you are a very good football team with a solid defense then you dont need a HOF qb to lead you. Just drive the bus(as BP says) and dont make mistakes! examples include ben in pittsburg (2nd yr guy), dilfer w/baltimore, bradys first SB,...hell Q-car got us to the playoffs by just driving and not making mistakes. Doomsday, Deadslow is prone to make big mistakes in crucial times. I just think its not a bad idea to let romo not make mistakes.


My sentiments exactly....

Beast_from_East
10-12-2006, 11:38 PM
Why do we have to wait for an injury? Or for the season to be lost? At that point and time we have no choice. There were games late last season where yes we had a miniscule chance of making the playoffs, but realisitically we were done. A few snaps for Romo might have been appropriate.

I like Drew, don't get me wrong but it's very frustrating to see him repeat the same kind of plays over and over. We can't afford to just beat bad teams and lose to good teams. This team deserves better.

We've heard all about poorly ran routes, poor protection and every other excuse. That last int was good protection. Witten wasn't open. What happened to checking off to another option? He had time. He panicked like a QB who has never thrown an NFL regular season pass. OH my bad that would be Romo not a 14 year vet.

Just get me some wins.

Beast agrees, why wait until we are 6-6 and the season is done before getting Romo some snaps? Bledslow is a freaking 14 year vet throwing pics all over the field and posters are saying Romo is not ready? Go look up INTs and QB Ratings at NFL.com and tell me how Bledslow give us the best chance to win........freaking amazing:bang2:

TtownCowboy
10-13-2006, 12:31 AM
I'll admit I was one, after Sunday's loss, to say pull Bledsoe and start Romo now. I've relaxed a little bit, but I still fear Bledsoe is going to drag us thru this season letting us down against the tuff teams and wowing us against the mediocre to bad ones. And we're right back where we were last year.

That said. Does anyone here think Ben Rothlisberger or Phillip Rivers are great QBs. I don't think they are yet, but the teams around them are outstanding so they are not expected to win games yet just manage them.

So I'm back to Romo why couldn't he be the same. Now I know we can't compare our o-line to Pitts but one of the things that Ben does so well and I think Rivers to is move around just enough to buy there recievers time to get open and make things happen. Seems to me Romo may have that mobility to have more time to throw by moving around in the pocket or just cutting loose and running. Before I'm attacked that he was undrafted and played DIAA ball and that anyone who would pull Bledsoe and start "the golden boy/new toy" is a crack job relax it is all opinions and we won't really know till the end of the season who's was right. It just seems, and I'm not overlooking them, that the perfect time to start him would be against Houston. Either way I'll pull for whoever is under center cause at the end of the day I'm Boys fan thru and thru.

mr.jameswoods
10-13-2006, 12:39 AM
Your right 100 post of replace Bledsoe is good analysis? Give me a break. :laugh2:

So what is the alternative, saying Bledsoe is fine after he tanks big games?

Beast_from_East
10-13-2006, 01:59 AM
I'll admit I was one, after Sunday's loss, to say pull Bledsoe and start Romo now. I've relaxed a little bit, but I still fear Bledsoe is going to drag us thru this season letting us down against the tuff teams and wowing us against the mediocre to bad ones. And we're right back where we were last year.

That said. Does anyone here think Ben Rothlisberger or Phillip Rivers are great QBs. I don't think they are yet, but the teams around them are outstanding so they are not expected to win games yet just manage them.

So I'm back to Romo why couldn't he be the same. Now I know we can't compare our o-line to Pitts but one of the things that Ben does so well and I think Rivers to is move around just enough to buy there recievers time to get open and make things happen. Seems to me Romo may have that mobility to have more time to throw by moving around in the pocket or just cutting loose and running. Before I'm attacked that he was undrafted and played DIAA ball and that anyone who would pull Bledsoe and start "the golden boy/new toy" is a crack job relax it is all opinions and we won't really know till the end of the season who's was right. It just seems, and I'm not overlooking them, that the perfect time to start him would be against Houston. Either way I'll pull for whoever is under center cause at the end of the day I'm Boys fan thru and thru.

J-VILLE............STRIKE 1
PHILLY.............STRIKE 2

BLEDSLOW HAS 1 CHANCE LEFT, HE BLOWS ANOTHER GAME AND HE HAS TO SIT....PERIOD;)

Clove
10-13-2006, 02:48 AM
I've come to the conclusion that some people are too nervous to put Romo in. They feel more comfortable losing with Bledsoe than losing with Romo.

Future
10-13-2006, 08:16 AM
After 3 years and he's not ready then the problem is with the coaches. That has been plenty of time to get him ready. What if Drew gets knocked out of the game. Will he be ready then? I like the idea. It's nothing different than what Pittsburgh did with Ben. And against the Texans it would be a good time to get his feet wet. If he can't play then why is he here?

so that there is a reason to start hundreds of threads

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 09:19 AM
Yet it was Bledsoe who came in during the championship game to help NE get to the show. The only stubborness I see is by the fans who actually think they know Romo is ready and are unwilling to accept any thing else. The staff sees Romo day in and day out. I do think they think highly of Romo but they are not going to make a change at this stage and risk the season. We are 2-2 not 0-4

Yes Bledsoe did... it was on the spot and one part of a game. You are asking for most of the season. Aint happenin'

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 09:25 AM
Beast agrees, why wait until we are 6-6 and the season is done before getting Romo some snaps? Bledslow is a freaking 14 year vet throwing pics all over the field and posters are saying Romo is not ready? Go look up INTs and QB Ratings at NFL.com and tell me how Bledslow give us the best chance to win........freaking amazing:bang2:


Its kind of scary because 6-6 is very possible. If we play like we have been playing... beat bad teams and lose to good team....

Look at the next 8 games

Texans - W
Giants - L
Panthers - W
Skins - W/L ?
Cards - W
Colts - L
Bucs - W
Giants - W/L ?

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 09:28 AM
Yes Bledsoe did... it was on the spot and one part of a game. You are asking for most of the season. Aint happenin'

In your opinion. Dallas will play the games and we will see what happens. To say with any certainty what is going to happen is foolish. It would be like me saying I know for sure we will make it to the SB. Truth is none of us know which again is why they play the games. Right now Bledsoe is the starting QB and if he continues to struggle then chances are he will not keep the job on the other hand Drew is very capable of going out and playing very good football.

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 09:30 AM
Its kind of scary because 6-6 is very possible. If we play like we have been playing... beat bad teams and lose to good team....

Look at the next 8 games

Texans - W
Giants - L
Panthers - W
Skins - W/L ?
Cards - W
Colts - L
Bucs - W
Giants - W/L ?

And for all you know those could all be L if Romo was thrown out there. Dallas is not going to risk the season at this stage just so some fans can see for themselfs.

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 09:34 AM
In your opinion. Dallas will play the games and we will see what happens. To say with any certainty what is going to happen is foolish. It would be like me saying I know for sure we will make it to the SB. Truth is none of us know which again is why they play the games. Right now Bledsoe is the starting QB and if he continues to struggle then chances are he will not keep the job on the other hand Drew is very capable of going out and playing very good football.

As we both know. This has been beaten to death.
Drew is what he is. He does what he does. It aint enough.

We will endure yet another b/s 9-7 or so season where we probable dont even make playoffs.
I.... quite frankly.... am sick of it.

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 09:35 AM
And for all you know those could all be L if Romo was thrown out there. Dallas is not going to risk the season at this stage just so some fans can see for themselfs.


What you are not understanding is... I dont WANT/NEED to see Romo.. I am just done with Drew.

Where the hell is Jeff George? :lmao2:

gbrittain
10-13-2006, 09:37 AM
So what is the alternative, saying Bledsoe is fine after he tanks big games?

And where the heck have you been...long time no read!

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 09:39 AM
As we both know. This has been beaten to death.
Drew is what he is. He does what he does. It aint enough.

We will endure yet another b/s 9-7 or so season where we probable dont even make playoffs.
I.... quite frankly.... am sick of it.

You will feel the way you want to feel, I think Bledsoe along with this team can do the job. We will see what happens.

WV Cowboy
10-13-2006, 09:42 AM
I don't view playing Romo as panic, or throwing the towel in for the season.

I look at it as stopping the bleeding.

DB's immobility has become a liability.

Defense's can cheat on us and we can't stop it because DB can't get out of his own way.

He has his strengths, but getting out of trouble in the pocket is not one.

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 09:47 AM
You will feel the way you want to feel, I think Bledsoe along with this team can do the job. We will see what happens.


I wish it was just a feeling... then I would FEEL that I could be wrong....

but with Drew its all about History repeating itself again and again.... Romo will prob replace Drew... that will be 3x... there is a poster with that sig.... cant remember who? edit: check out TruBlueCowboy sig

Angus
10-13-2006, 09:54 AM
And for all you know those could all be L if Romo was thrown out there. Dallas is not going to risk the season at this stage just so some fans can see for themselfs.

It would not be for the fans. The fans really don't matter that much so long as the team makes money. It is for the franchise, to find out for the team what must be done for not only this season, but especially for next season, because if Romo does not play this season there won't be any Romo experience to guide the decisions for next season. The team will be in the same boat all over again unless Romo plays enough to evaluate him in real games.

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 09:55 AM
I wish it was just a feeling... then I would FEEL that I could be wrong....

but with Drew its all about History repeating itself again and again.... Romo will prob replace Drew... that will be 3x... there is a poster with that sig.... cant remember who?

History is what it is but does not say what may happen in the future. I would think anyone who saw Dilfer would have said based on his history he would never get a ring on his finger but he did. Jim Plunkett history was horrid but he has a ring. History does not change but the future can. Sorry I'm not one who looks backwards and applies that to what may or may not happen down the road.

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 09:58 AM
History is what it is but does not say what may happen in the future. I would think anyone who saw Dilfer would have said based on his history he would never get a ring on his finger but he did. Jim Plunkett history was horrid but he has a ring. History does not change but the future can. Sorry I'm not one who looks backwards and applies that to what may or may not happen down the road.

Its cool. We can agree to disagree of course.

With Drew's declining play.. it is real easy to refer back to the past with him... real easy.

WV Cowboy
10-13-2006, 10:00 AM
History is what it is but does not say what may happen in the future. I would think anyone who saw Dilfer would have said based on his history he would never get a ring on his finger but he did. Jim Plunkett history was horrid but he has a ring. History does not change but the future can. Sorry I'm not one who looks backwards and applies that to what may or may not happen down the road.

So we are to cross our fingers and hope that Bledsoe becomes an anamoly like Plunkett or Dilfer ??

:eek:

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 10:01 AM
So we are to cross our fingers and hope that Bledsoe becomes an anamoly like Plunkett or Dilfer ??

:eek:


Yeah right LOL

Dilfer was pretty much told "dont you dare throw that ball":mad: LOL

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 10:39 AM
So we are to cross our fingers and hope that Bledsoe becomes an anamoly like Plunkett or Dilfer ??

:eek:

You do what you feel. You can cross your finger or whine about Romo not playing that is your choice. :lmao2: All I'm saying is history is what it is and that is past it is not going to determine what takes place in the future. Bledsoe made mistaks as did a lot of players in that game and if they continue then we will not do good this year, I think these guys are capable of more than what they did sunday aginst Philly so I'm still very optimistic about this season. For those who feel different I can respect that and relize nothing I'm going to say will change your feelings.

DC Cowboy
10-13-2006, 12:25 PM
You are so right Doomsday...I gave my post about Q-Car ( which caused a pretty good ruckus) but the bottom line is BP will not make the switch just because we say so. He is looking at deadslow from a different lens.
I guess its upsetting because I truly believe that Romo is a better qb and the patriots go lucky when deadslow got hurt.
Think about how Brady was a sixth round pick and fourth stringer as a rookie. his second year, because of deadslow's injury, starts 14 games and the team goes 11-5. Deadslow gets healthy and NE elects to go with Brady in the SB and of course the MVP and rest is history.
The Bills had rather draft and start a rookie in J.P. Losman than commit to Deadslow.
I mean the proof is in the pudding and as a die hard its frustrating because we have a VERY talented team and BP stubborness will not allow us to witness a potential SB run.
But you are right we might as well bite that bullet and hope for the best.

Why not give the kid a half like he did Henson. One hald against the Texans shouldn't hurt us that much.

REDVOLUTION
10-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Why not give the kid a half like he did Henson. One hald against the Texans shouldn't hurt us that much.

Just put him on blitzing downs:lmao2:

WV Cowboy
10-13-2006, 12:43 PM
You do what you feel. You can cross your finger or whine about Romo not playing that is your choice. :lmao2: All I'm saying is history is what it is and that is past it is not going to determine what takes place in the future. Bledsoe made mistaks as did a lot of players in that game and if they continue then we will not do good this year, I think these guys are capable of more than what they did sunday aginst Philly so I'm still very optimistic about this season. For those who feel different I can respect that and relize nothing I'm going to say will change your feelings.
You say a lot of players made mistakes in the game, let's go with that.

If you saw a def back who had gotten old and slow, and WR's were running by him easily, you would say he needs to be replaced even if he has been a better corner with more experience than his replacement.

He lacks an important skill required as a def back.
He will never get any faster, or as fast as he used to be.
He can never show how good a cover guy he is because he isn't fast enough to stay with the recievers.

Now look at that scenario as a QB.

Bledsoe has gotten old and slow. He is still a good passer and a good QB, but like the def back, he lacks an important skill needed to play the position.

If you put the def back in, yes you will have growing pains as he learns the ropes, but WR's won't be running past him because they are faster than him.

The same with Romo, he will have growing pains, but all in all he brings some mobility to the position so defences can't blitz all of the time without feeling consequences.

I realize Parcells is not going to change soon, you are right, he has said as much, but I am just explaining why I don't see it getting any better as time goes on.

We are between a rock and a hard place here.

Bledsoe is too slow and immoble to show that he is still a good passer.

This better says what I have tried to say, ... http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66751

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 02:08 PM
You say a lot of players made mistakes in the game, let's go with that.

If you saw a def back who had gotten old and slow, and WR's were running by him easily, you would say he needs to be replaced even if he has been a better corner with more experience than his replacement.

He lacks an important skill required as a def back.
He will never get any faster, or as fast as he used to be.
He can never show how good a cover guy he is because he isn't fast enough to stay with the recievers.

Now look at that scenario as a QB.

Bledsoe has gotten old and slow. He is still a good passer and a good QB, but like the def back, he lacks an important skill needed to play the position.

If you put the def back in, yes you will have growing pains as he learns the ropes, but WR's won't be running past him because they are faster than him.

The same with Romo, he will have growing pains, but all in all he brings some mobility to the position so defences can't blitz all of the time without feeling consequences.

I realize Parcells is not going to change soon, you are right, he has said as much, but I am just explaining why I don't see it getting any better as time goes on.

We are between a rock and a hard place here.

Bledsoe is too slow and immoble to show that he is still a good passer.

This better says what I have tried to say, ... http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66751

I guess if Bill felt that way Romo would be starting but that is not the case.

Stautner
10-13-2006, 03:09 PM
Your right 100 post of replace Bledsoe is good analysis? Give me a break. :laugh2:

No more than 100 posts of Bledsoe is fine ......

I can understand that someone thinks Bledsoe is the best option at the moment, but given the way he has played this year and given the promise that Romo has shown, do you really think there isn't a legitimate point of contention on both sides of the issue?

ZeroClub
10-13-2006, 03:22 PM
I want Romo to start too. I think there are several good logical reasons to make the switch.

But there are also reasonable fans who are in favor of Bledsoe continuing to start, and those fans offer logical reasons for their position too.

IMO, most of the pro and con points that could be made have already been made in this forum.

At this point I'm in the "agree to disagree mode."

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 03:35 PM
No more than 100 posts of Bledsoe is fine ......

I can understand that someone thinks Bledsoe is the best option at the moment, but given the way he has played this year and given the promise that Romo has shown, do you really think there isn't a legitimate point of contention on both sides of the issue?

Sure there is and if it does not improve then a change could happen. I have never said the possibility was not there I only said now is not the time and it appears the organization feels the same way.

Stautner
10-13-2006, 03:48 PM
Sure there is and if it does not improve then a change could happen. I have never said the possibility was not there I only said now is not the time and it appears the organization feels the same way.

Obviously the organization doesn't feel that way, YET. That's all Parcells would commit to in his press conference Monday, that he didn't think a change was the answer YET.

I could see your point if all evidence pointed to Bledsoe getting 5-6 more starts, but it doesn't. The only thing the evidence tells us is that Bledsoe is the QB this week, and considering Parcells choice of words - choosing not to throw long term support behind Bledsoe, we can't count out the possibility of Romo taking over in the next game if Bledsoe plays poorly this week.

With there being at least a possiblity of a change that quickly, I can't see that discussing it is premature.

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 03:53 PM
Obviously the organization doesn't feel that way, YET. That's all Parcells would commit to in his press conference Monday, that he didn't think a change was the answer YET.

I could see your point if all evidence pointed to Bledsoe getting 5-6 more starts, but it doesn't. The only thing the evidence tells us is that Bledsoe is the QB this week, and considering Parcells choice of words - choosing not to throw long term support behind Bledsoe, we can't count out the possibility of Romo taking over in the next game if Bledsoe plays poorly this week.

With there being at least a possiblity of a change that quickly, I can't see that discussing it is premature.

"if it does not improve then a change could happen. I have never said the possibility was not there I only said now is not the time and it appears the organization feels the same way."
Where do you see that I said 5 or 6 games? I have not said how many games one way or the other I have said now is not the time and yes the organization evidently feels that way as well because at this time he is still the starting QB. I have also said most coaches are reluctant to pull their starting QB this early in a season but if things do not improve it could happen.

Stautner
10-13-2006, 04:01 PM
"if it does not improve then a change could happen. I have never said the possibility was not there I only said now is not the time and it appears the organization feels the same way."
Where do you see that I said 5 or 6 games? I have not said how many games one way or the other I have said now is not the time and yes the organization evidently feels that way as well because at this time he is still the starting QB. I have also said most coaches are reluctant to pull their starting QB this early in a season but if things do not improve it could happen.

I know you didn't say a change couldn't happen, all I'm saying is that considering it could happen any time I don't see why you don't understand that the change to Romo is a legitimate topic of discussion.

As for the 5-6 games, I didn't say YOU came up with that. That was my number, and it was kind of arbitrary at that. I was merely saying that if there was any certainty that Bledsoe would keep his job that long then discussing Romo now would be premature, but since Parcells left it open for a change to take place at any time then talk about Romo is justified.

That's the reason for the "100 posts".

Doomsday101
10-13-2006, 04:12 PM
I know you didn't say a change couldn't happen, all I'm saying is that considering it could happen any time I don't see why you don't understand that the change to Romo is a legitimate topic of discussion.

As for the 5-6 games, I didn't say YOU came up with that. That was my number, and it was kind of arbitrary at that. I was merely saying that if there was any certainty that Bledsoe would keep his job that long then discussing Romo now would be premature, but since Parcells left it open for a change to take place at any time then talk about Romo is justified.

That's the reason for the "100 posts".

I never said it wasn't a legit topic but when you have 99 other post about the same thing then why not just continue on the 1 post? It is like having a thread that reads Bench Bledsoe and another saying Play Romo 2 different title but what is being said is the same in both. You think by adding more threads on the same issue changes anything? That is all I was questioning, there were pleanty of others on the same topic why create another?

Stautner
10-13-2006, 04:26 PM
I never said it wasn't a legit topic but when you have 99 other post about the same thing then why not just continue on the 1 post? It is like having a thread that reads Bench Bledsoe and another saying Play Romo 2 different title but what is being said is the same in both. You think by adding more threads on the same issue changes anything? That is all I was questioning, there were pleanty of others on the same topic why create another?

And my point is that the same thing is happening on the pro Bledsoe side.

Realistically that's just human nature when there are two legitimate sides to an issue - people harp and complain and argue and rationalize and push their point of view as hard as they can, and the result is a lot of repetative stuff. We all think we can make our side of the case better than everyone else because it seems so clear to us.