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Galian Beast
10-12-2006, 04:07 PM
Clearly julius jones has gone completely overlooked by the NFL and even cowboys fan...
Personally I wasn't a fan of drafting him. I wanted Steven Jackson (still think he could have been a player for us). But I'm glad we got julius jones, and in addition Marcus Spears (and to some extent DeMarcus Ware)... and resulted in us getting Drew Bledsoe.
He is the nfl leading rusher right now in terms of per game yardage. More end zone touches will make him a pro bowler, and a higher profile player in the nfl.
P.S. Jackson leads the league in overall rushing yards.
Yeagermeister
10-12-2006, 04:10 PM
Clearly julius jones has gone completely overlooked by the NFL and even cowboys fan...
Personally I wasn't a fan of drafting him. I wanted Steven Jackson (still think he could have been a player for us). But I'm glad we got julius jones, and in addition Marcus Spears (and to some extent DeMarcus Ware)... and resulted in us getting Drew Bledsoe.
He is the nfl leading rusher right now in terms of per game yardage. More end zone touches will make him a pro bowler, and a higher profile player in the nfl.
P.S. Jackson leads the league in overall rushing yards.
I was screaming at the tv for Jerry to draft Jackson and couldn't believe it when they traded down. Until I found out what we got and that we drafted JJ. I'm pleased as punch with JJ this year.
PoetTree
10-12-2006, 04:16 PM
P.S. Jackson leads the league in overall rushing yards.
P.S. Stephen Jackson has played one more game than Julius has, and is still only 77 yards ahead of him -- which is less than Julius', as you pointed out, league-leading per-game average thus far. Oh, yeah... and we play the Texans & their 29th ranked rush defense on Sunday. Best of luck, Stephen, holding Julius off all year long.
For the record, as anyone familiar with me on these boards can attest, I have never doubted Julius Jones. He has rare ability. I mean it. He can do things 98% of the backs in this league cannot do. He's just needed some health and better line play. This year, he's getting both & is demonstrating just that.
Think it would feel good, at season's end, having the NFL's rushing leader wearing a star on his helmet? I miss those days. But, wait! Those days may be now. Keep your eyes peeled. This "Juice" is gonna be special. Just watch.
:cool:
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Galian Beast
10-12-2006, 04:18 PM
Its funny that people wanted barber to start this year... saying that jone was no good...
thekavorka
10-12-2006, 04:19 PM
I like both Stephen Jackson and Julius Jones, but Stephen Jackson also has 184 receiving yards.
joseephuss
10-12-2006, 04:19 PM
P.S. Stephen Jackson has played one more game than Julius has, and is still only 77 yards ahead of him -- which is less than Julius', as you pointed out, league-leading per-game average thus far. Oh, yeah... and we play the Texans & their 29th ranked rush defense on Sunday. Best of luck, Stephen, holding Julius off all year long.
For the record, as anyone familiar with me on these boards can attest, I have never doubted Julius Jones. He has rare ability. I mean it. He can do things 98% of the backs in this league cannot do. He's just needed some health and better line play. This year, he's getting both & is demonstrating just that.
Think it would feel good, at season's end, having the NFL's rushing leader wearing a star on his helmet? I miss those days. But, wait! Those days may be now. Keep your eyes peeled. This "Juice" is gonna be special. Just watch.
:cool:
Peace and Love
- PoetTree -
98%?
Let's just say that each of the 32 teams has 3 running backs on their team. That is 96 running backs in the NFL or just round up to 100. That means There are only 2 backs that have more skills than Julius Jones. I like Julius and think he is pretty good, but that is a bold statement.
sacase
10-12-2006, 04:27 PM
Interesting JJ is in 5th place and the guys ahead of him have played 1 game more than him. What I also find interesting is that none of the big names are on the top 5 list at all. Changing of the guard?
PoetTree
10-12-2006, 04:47 PM
98%?
Let's just say that each of the 32 teams has 3 running backs on their team. That is 96 running backs in the NFL or just round up to 100. That means There are only 2 backs that have more skills than Julius Jones. I like Julius and think he is pretty good, but that is a bold statement.
Not "more skills". I said that Julius can do things that 98% of the backs in this league can't do. Other great backs have other skill-sets that make them great. But Julius has rare ability in what he can do. It's not to the same degree as #20, but Jones has a little Barry Sanders in him. Now, he's a more physical runner than Sanders ever was. Barry was finesse personified. But Julius has got some of that in him.
He has a wiggle and a burst, an ability to change direction without losing speed, that you just rarely see in this league. Go back and watch his rookie season. Now, Bill Parcells has been teaching him to run differently. He's teaching him to be a complete back that always makes positive gains & helps the "T-E-A-M". Something Barry Sanders, as brilliant as he was, never got the concept of. But that special kind of ankle-breaking ability is still there. It's just being mixed in with a greater mature and understanding of when to wield it.
And as The Tuna said today in his press conference, when he brings both his instinct and discipline into alignment, you've got one helluva back! There's been some growing pains, but the talent was always extremely evident. By season's end, all the NFL & its fans will know Julius Jones' name. And it won't be long after that, I predict, 'til he's regarded as the best back in the game.
And yes, I truly believe that...
:bow:
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koolaid
10-12-2006, 05:26 PM
Interesting JJ is in 5th place and the guys ahead of him have played 1 game more than him. What I also find interesting is that none of the big names are on the top 5 list at all. Changing of the guard?
the big names are the ones teams focus on to shut down
Deep_Freeze
10-12-2006, 05:34 PM
Not "more skills". I said that Julius can do things that 98% of the backs in this league can't do. Other great backs have other skill-sets that make them great. But Julius has rare ability in what he can do. It's not to the same degree as #20, but Jones has a little Barry Sanders in him. Now, he's a more physical runner than Sanders ever was. Barry was finesse personified. But Julius has got some of that in him.
He has a wiggle and a burst, an ability to change direction without losing speed, that you just rarely see in this league. Go back and watch his rookie season. Now, Bill Parcells has been teaching him to run differently. He's teaching him to be a complete back that always makes positive gains & helps the "T-E-A-M". Something Barry Sanders, as brilliant as he was, never got the concept of. But that special kind of ankle-breaking ability is still there. It's just being mixed in with a greater mature and understanding of when to wield it.
And as The Tuna said today in his press conference, when he brings both his instinct and discipline into alignment, you've got one helluva back! There's been some growing pains, but the talent was always extremely evident. By season's end, all the NFL & its fans will know Julius Jones' name. And it won't be long after that, I predict, 'til he's regarded as the best back in the game.
And yes, I truly believe that...
:bow:
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- PoetTree -
Well, one thing that can't be ignored is the presence of TO doesn't allow the opposition to go with an 8 man front to stop us. This allows more space for JJ to run. The difference in JJ in general, other than not being hurt, is very little. I just see a guy that now only faces 7 man fronts instead of 8.
Now I like to talk running backs, but even with your thought of JJ being the best in the league, he still wouldn't belong in the same sentence as Barry. When JJ runs, he usually makes one move (cut) or maybe two. You regularly saw Barry make more moves than you can count in one run, without slow motion.
JJ might be faster in a straight line, but agility, well, Barry owned the term. His picture should be under the definition. He broke more ankles then Tonya Harding, you didn't want to be the next highlight by being in the hole Barry was heading through.
I haven't seen anyone approach Barry in today's game, he was one of a kind. You might want to check out some highlights of Barry, to refresh your memory.
PoetTree
10-12-2006, 07:44 PM
Now I like to talk running backs, but even with your thought of JJ being the best in the league, he still wouldn't belong in the same sentence as Barry. When JJ runs, he usually makes one move (cut) or maybe two. You regularly saw Barry make more moves than you can count in one run, without slow motion.
JJ might be faster in a straight line, but agility, well, Barry owned the term. His picture should be under the definition. He broke more ankles then Tonya Harding, you didn't want to be the next highlight by being in the hole Barry was heading through.
I haven't seen anyone approach Barry in today's game, he was one of a kind. You might want to check out some highlights of Barry, to refresh your memory.
And you might want to read my post again in order to comprehend what I said.
Just a suggestion...
;)
Deep_Freeze
10-12-2006, 08:12 PM
And you might want to read my post again in order to comprehend what I said.
Just a suggestion...
;)
I did. I know you said a little, guess it depends on what your definition of a little is. All I'm saying is he really not like Barry, but that isn't a bad thing, he is what he is. Comparisions to HOFers is not something we can validly do at this point.
sacase
10-12-2006, 08:48 PM
the big names are the ones teams focus on to shut down
True, but they still get their yards...
George
10-12-2006, 08:53 PM
Its funny that people wanted barber to start this year... saying that jone was no good...
I admit to being one of those people. But, I really am impressed with how Julius is taking over. He has really put the effort in and it shows. I shall now go and eat my bird...crow that is.
bbgun
10-12-2006, 08:59 PM
He's under contract for at least one more year. Don't give him any kind of extension just yet. Show me two good years back-to-back if you want the jack.
Bob Sacamano
10-12-2006, 09:01 PM
Think it would feel good, at season's end, having the NFL's rushing leader wearing a star on his helmet?
I'm just glad we have a starting back average at least 4 yards per carry
I know, it's pathetic, but that's how it's been around here since '01
Bob Sacamano
10-12-2006, 09:02 PM
the big names are the ones teams focus on to shut down
teams have been bringing 8 in the box most of the time since Julius' breakout rookie, 2nd half
Bob Sacamano
10-12-2006, 09:03 PM
He broke more ankles then Tonya Harding
she only broke one ankle :p:
but it's true that TO's prescence is helping JJ alot
but so has Antonio Gates for LT these past 2 seasons, going on 3
Yeagermeister
10-12-2006, 09:06 PM
she only broke one ankle :p:
but it's true that TO's prescence is helping JJ alot
but so has Antonio Gates for LT these past 2 seasons, going on 3
Actually it was a knee :D
WHY!!!! WHY!!!!! WHY!!!!!
Bob Sacamano
10-12-2006, 09:07 PM
Actually it was a knee :D
WHY!!!! WHY!!!!! WHY!!!!!
she actually said
WHY ME?!!
Cowboy Bebop
10-12-2006, 09:17 PM
It is nice to see what only 7 men in the box does to your running game.
Bob Sacamano
10-12-2006, 09:18 PM
It is nice to see what only 7 men in the box does to your running game.
and no slow Larry Allen or lithe Al Johnson
Funxva
10-12-2006, 09:19 PM
I'm patting myself on the back. I said the Juice is going to be fine. He shares my last name after all. :)
Cowboy Bebop
10-12-2006, 09:20 PM
I'm patting myself on the back. I said the Juice is going to be fine. He shares my last name after all. :)
You definitely deserve the majority of the credit. Congratulations. You had no small role in this.
Funxva
10-12-2006, 09:24 PM
You definitely deserve the majority of the credit. Congratulations. You had no small role in this.
Tell me something I don't know.. Like the square root of the square root of 13.
Sheesh! I may be the sole reason why he has achieved success to date.
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